The Nineteenth Byte

pxeger

20:00

well that kinda makes sense

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

^

pxeger

if you consider divisibility by 2, and then by 3, and by 5, etc

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, it's one of those statements that feels right just on intuition :P

Still think it's cool :P

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

20:12

Happy Data Privacy Day everyone :p

> We’re looking forward to continued work on privacy enhancing technologies in 2022, including efforts to generalize ODoH technology to any application HTTP traffic through Oblivious HTTP (OHTTP).

So...Tor? :p

emanresu A

@NewPosts I have a sumbission for this in one of my languages

pxeger

> The OHAI working group will define a protocol for anonymization of HTTP requests using a partly-trusted intermediary

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Yeah, quite similar to ODoH

pxeger

hmm, I wonder if that partly-trusted intermediary might possibly end up starting with C and ending with loudflare

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Well I mean, it's Cloudflare's blog, so they'd probably be one of them :p

caird coinheringaahing

20:19

@pxeger Is this working group lolcat related?

OHAI?

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ohai

Oblivious HTTP Application Intermediation

but almost certainly a backronym

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Cloudflare's already responsible for like half of the internet being secure, so I'm not too worried about giving them a little more trust

If Cloudflare decided to do something malicious ODoH and OHTTP would be the least of our concerns lol

pxeger

I'd be less worried about Cloudflare deciding to do something malicious, than someone making Cloudflare do something malicious

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Ooh my high school's course catalog for next year is now available

caird coinheringaahing

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I reckon you should take Latin, seems like a really interesting subject :P

Aaroneous Miller

20:33

@NewPosts figures you'd post that while I'm at lunch lol

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Is this valid?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

oh cool...I was about to type up a long email to complain about my school's Computer Science III class not being considered Advanced for GPA purposes, but it turns out it is (and just doesn't have Advanced in the name)

@AaroneousMiller I'll allow it

Aaroneous Miller

noice

Unrelated String

20:52

is advanced your school's equivalent of honors or is it a weighting category that encompasses ap classes and classes of particular substance that aren't run by the college board

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

The second

Unrelated String

nice

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

But usually advanced classes have "Advanced" as part of the name

But I recently learned that in 2025 (the year after I graduate) AP classes will no longer receive an increased GPA weight unless they're english, history, science, or math classes.

Unrelated String

yeah my high school just had normal, honors, and ap
which means the absolute highest standard in every fucking subject was set purely by the cb

wack

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Oh, and in 2025, they're making the advanced-but-not-AP classes only a slight increase in weighted GPA

Unrelated String

20:55

f

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

So, if you take advanced CS classes, no GPA weighting. They're going back in time.

Ginger Industries

what do yall think of the new transitions for top-down view?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Witness the incredible genius of my school board.

And if you take more than the required number of english, science, math, or history classes, guess what. You don't get extra GPA weighting for those either.

user

@taRadvylfsriksushilani why’s that?

Ginger Industries

sounds like your school is just screwed up

emanresu A

20:58

^

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@user Well, it's actually a good idea if they had done it properly

caird coinheringaahing

Damn, this has hit -500 O.o

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing I wonder if that's related to it being a really bad change

nah, probably just a coincidence

Ginger Industries

y'know, maybe a design change with -500 score is just not very good

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, but even the bad changes don't usually hit -500

pxeger

21:00

because this change is utterly pointless and extremely visible

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

They were trying to limit the amount of credit you could get from taking a ton of advanced/AP classes, so that students wouldn't be incentivized to take 8 AP classes in a year (and suffer) in order to get a higher class rank. But they did it like...the worst possible way.

caird coinheringaahing

In fact, the only posts voted lower than it are all to do with the Monica incident

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing ...what

pxeger

> Inconsistencies in implementation have led to several different layouts across the site. When gathering requirements for a unified post summary component, we found at least 5 (five!) different layouts.
>
> Scaling the design is tricky, both in window size and adding features and functionality. We need to support all sorts of metadata on all sorts of devices.
>
> Our post summaries were only designed to support questions (and answers, kinda). We need to be able to display various content types in single lists. For example, in a list of notifications, we may want to present an article next …

caird coinheringaahing

Hell, this is lower voted than the announcement that they're allowing ads O.o

pxeger

21:01

@pxeger None of these problems require changing the design. Just a refactor

caird coinheringaahing

meta.stackexchange.com/… for a link

Ginger Industries

I think new design suck

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I'm indifferent

caird coinheringaahing

^

Aaroneous Miller

^

caird coinheringaahing

21:02

So long as they stay away from /questions, I have no opinion on it being the new /home format

emanresu A

^^

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing they're not going to stay away though

Unrelated String

i like being able to use /home for quick browsing of activity and it's barely usable for that anymore

emanresu A

^^ tho

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger They weren't going to. Now, with such negative feedback, it's unlikely they'll keep expanding it without attempting to placate people

pxeger

21:03

> We have no unified place to put an action menu.

How about here?

Ginger Industries

ah well. at least they aren't touching chat

emanresu A

Yay

Ginger Industries

...yet.

pxeger

the current onebox UI on chat is far too useful. It needs fucking up

emanresu A

They're never going to touch chat

Jan 24 at 19:27, by emanresu A

Jan 6 at 19:15, by pxeger

Dec 16 '21 at 2:02, by emanresu A

Chat never worked, so they never have to fix it

caird coinheringaahing

21:05

This is the lowest voted MSE question not posted by a staff member

Ginger Industries

@pxeger exactly. chat actually has some good features, which AFAIK is punishable by death at SE headquarters

@cairdcoinheringaahing WHAT

caird coinheringaahing

> The system should search posts for the word "please" in proximity to the phrase "don't close" or "do not close", and if found together disable the close link

Ginger Industries

how does someone even come up with that idea
like they're clearly serious
my mind has been blown

pxeger

> I would suggest that rather than closing these questions, we set up a migration path to Yahoo Answers

caird coinheringaahing

Aka, if you say "please don't close" in your question, people cannot VTC

I can't help but notice that you haven't explicitly asked for this question to not be closed. Voting to close. — Pops Jul 20 '11 at 3:18

emanresu A

21:06

What

Aaroneous Miller

> I'll convert it to a feature request when abs(votes) > 100

pxeger

> I think it's reasonable to grant their request and prevent other users from closing the question by preemptively closing it automatically. This will replace the "close" link with the "reopen" link, so I believe this adequately fulfills the spirit of your request.

hysterical

Ginger Industries

> This would open up a loophole for crappy questions so large you could pilot the Queen Mary 2 through it.

caird coinheringaahing

People can be very funny when they find a very bad idea :P

Ginger Industries

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Please don't delete this.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

21:07

I do think we need a lot of changes to close voting, but this might be a little too far :p

caird coinheringaahing

You made a typo, the k at the end of the second blockquote should be kthxbye. — jonsca Jul 20 '11 at 3:17

emanresu A

40

A: Don't close questions where the user has requested that it not be closed

This is an artistic statement, please do not downvote it.

caird coinheringaahing

Here's another bad feature-request

3

emanresu A

52

A: Don't close questions where the user has requested that it not be closed

This answer is not an answer, but please don't flag it as "not an answer", and please don't downvote it.

Ginger Industries

"migrate it to Yahoo Answers" I CAN'T EVEN AAAAA

@cairdcoinheringaahing suggestion: migrate HATERs to 4chan

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

21:09

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah yes, "revenge downvoter", "voting ring organizer", and "chaotic neutral", my favorite three badges :p

caird coinheringaahing

babe wake up, new alignment chart just dropped :P

Ginger Industries

There are three kinds of people

Wheat Wizard

I just found a Haskell answer I thought was really clever, but when I went to upvote it I realized it was my own answer.

emanresu A

There's one kind of people - those who can extrapolate.

caird coinheringaahing

why gatekeep girlboss gaslight when you can revenge-downvote, organise-voting-rings and chaotic-neutral

5

Ginger Industries

21:12

I haven't had this good of a laugh in ages

man

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I just misread an HNQ as "PS5 controller won't cringe"

caird coinheringaahing

This one was funny, until SE actually did evaluate the risks of allowing teen mods on the SE network :/

Ginger Industries

there's also this gem on our meta

and this

> I have realized my mistakes and realize how dumb I was being.

caird coinheringaahing

And this

emanresu A

31

A: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

Following your logic, we should probably screen all questions on meta from users with purple fractal gravatars because you have a purple gravatar and 100% of your meta questions have more than 20 downvotes! Both your answers have negative scores, too. The correlation is FOUR TIMES AS STRONG as ...

caird coinheringaahing

21:16

@cairdcoinheringaahing They try for 13 minut and no undelete

2

Ginger Industries

> And all the chatter about avocados really needs to stop...

caird coinheringaahing

+1 for the gif. And because I agree with the answer, but mostly because of the gif. — DJMcMayhem Jun 28 '16 at 17:24

Ginger Industries

okay so these are amusing

but THIS takes the cake

> Hay guys, April Fool's is over now...

caird coinheringaahing

If we ever implement anything remotely like this, just kill me. — Nick Craver Apr 12 '12 at 10:27

Well, now that Nick's no longer working at SE, I know just whatfeature-request to ask :P

emanresu A

Ginger Industries

21:20

there's also this, which I feel was written by the same breed of 10-year-old that comments on YT videos complaining about "bad words"

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Thanks, I hate this

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA but wait, it gets worse

> and please don't make it a "Facebook for programmers", for God's sake

emanresu A

> Please don't redesign the car - it works as well as possible now.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Whatever did happen to the sexuality.se proposal? I've heard about it occasionally but never the whole story.

And on school wifi I'm not gonna go hunting for it

caird coinheringaahing

> Not me - I consider the lack of friends and (especially) smileys as a feature, not a defect.

Wheat Wizard

21:22

It didn't have enough traction.

caird coinheringaahing

@taRadvylfsriksushilani It failed in Beta

Ginger Industries

uh

@WheatWizard love your new PFP

Wheat Wizard

It's not new?

caird coinheringaahing

Sexuality – sexuality-dead.stackexchange.com

Q&A site for educators and professionals to discuss human sexuality.

Closed after 13 days in beta.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

"since we still have no ability to permaban people" MIRACLES HAPPENS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A STRONG WILL — BoltClock's a Unicorn Mar 20 '14 at 15:42

Ginger Industries

21:23

@WheatWizard damnit caching

caird coinheringaahing

> sexuality-dead.stackexchange.com

well, that's not good

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

necrophilia.stackexchange

Ginger Industries

I too identify as "dead"

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries Different meaning of sexuality

Ginger Industries

WHAT

Things I never thought I'd have to say #124410: Stack Exchange is not a dating site

caird coinheringaahing

21:28

@taRadvylfsriksushilani So, if I remember correctly, it was launched but you had to confirm you were 18+ when visiting, and posts were completely banned from hitting the HNQ so the site basically couldn't get any traffic and died a quick death

Ginger Industries

how many of these are there!?

@taRadvylfsriksushilani "voting ring organizer"

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries I love that, at least on my screen the "<--- The buttons would go here" bit points directly to the "bookmark" icon :P

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It does for everyone I think, although with the custom fonts config I'm running, it's actually the downvote one (which is pretty accurate in this case)

The front page does feel pretty...misaligned though

why tf does my school block uwaterloo.ca

Unrelated String

lmao wgat

*h

Ginger Industries

ah yes, wgah

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

21:37

wgah!

Unrelated String

hgat

Ginger Industries

you've heard of d'oh, now get ready for w'gah

caird coinheringaahing

@taRadvylfsriksushilani that's where the Canadians are planning their invasion of Montana, so the NSA requires all american school computers to block access, so that Canada isn't tipped off that the NSA knows their plans

Ginger Industries

fun fact: sometimes when I take off my mask the elastic ear strap thing snaps back and sounds like the chat ping

caird coinheringaahing

The rest of the world is aware of this, but all american schoolkids aren't

Ginger Industries

21:40

@cairdcoinheringaahing one second

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@GingerIndustries Imagine taking off your mask lol

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing okay they're aware now

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

The only place I don't wear mine is when I'm asleep or eating

caird coinheringaahing

I basically don't wear a mask anymore tbh

Ginger Industries

wait shit I hear a helicopter

Wheat Wizard

21:42

Yeah. I don't really go outside and I live alone so there is not much reason to.

caird coinheringaahing

I'm doubly (soon to be triply) vaxxed, I've recovered in the last 180 days, and I take semi-regular covid tests, I literally meet all the criteria for doing things

I think I only wear one when walking around inside uni buildings

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I don't wear one due to covid, I wear one to discourage people from talking to me

Including my own family

Well, I don't want to breath the same air as them, so that's different

Wheat Wizard

People hear mostly don't wear masks outside.

caird coinheringaahing

@taRadvylfsriksushilani That's what headphones are for :P

Wheat Wizard

i wear it most the time because I'm usually walking from one place I have to have a mask to another and it's just easier to leave it on.

Ginger Industries

21:44

okay the copter's gone, crisis averted

caird coinheringaahing

Looks like the phone number spam has moved to the rest of the network, so keep an eye out

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Exciting

Ginger Industries

oh boy

it sure is a good thing we've got smokey

y'know, you don't see that much spam in SE chat (probably due to the 20rep requirement)

has there ever been spam in here?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

In TNB itself?

Ginger Industries

yup

caird coinheringaahing

21:54

@GingerIndustries It's much harder to spam in chat

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

You need legitimate +20 to be able to do so

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing i know, but this is the Internet. it must have happened at least once

statistically speaking

caird coinheringaahing

I think we've had a few spam messages here

But we're one of the most active rooms on this chat server, and have been for years. Spam doesn't stick around here long

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing I noticed

I wonder if there's a list of most active rooms?

caird coinheringaahing

chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=all&sort=people

That's rooms by people in it, there's also chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=all&sort=active which sorts by time since last message

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

21:56

Ooh, the most recent new user in TNB was the 1300th person to talk here

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani how could you possibly know that?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

it says it in the bottom left

Ginger Industries

oh

emanresu A

Funny thing

(10k+)

caird coinheringaahing

Boo, I should be able to sing the song while reading that

Fmbalbuena

22:00

I think @NewPosts will spam

Ginger Industries

I know by memory almost 100% of the lyrics to Yakko's World

caird coinheringaahing

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Interesting that we're close to rooms like RPG General (room 11), despite being almost a year younger

Fmbalbuena

0

Q: Prevent phone number spam

I found a lot of spams that contains miscrosoft help spams. link Is there a way to prevent?

emanresu A

Anyone want to see a true monstrosity?

Fmbalbuena

@emanresuA which?

emanresu A

22:06

this "code", if you can call it that

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA ಠ_ಠ

emanresu A

Submitting it utc tomorrow 'cos I've repcapped today

You have no idea how long it took to take and combine all those screenshots

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA todo: make a tool that does it for you

DLosc

@WheatWizard Could you unfreeze the Brachylog room, please?

Wheat Wizard

@DLosc Done.

DLosc

22:17

Thanks!

emanresu A

@GingerIndustries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm never doing that again

DLosc

@Fatalize @UnrelatedString I have a Brachylog question, but I'll ask it here

Fmbalbuena

→ 1 message moved to Brachylog

I have RO power.

:p

emanresu A

22:34

How not to write Python:

return max(filter(lambda x:x % 3 == 0,map(lambda a:int(''.join(map(str,reversed(sorted(a)))) or 0),powerset(nums))))

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@Fmbalbuena Gotta make it italicized

→ 1 message moved to Brachylog

emanresu A

Honestly thought that was going to be a rickroll, surprised you didn't take the oppurtunity

Fmbalbuena

How to allow others to add a label in github?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@Fmbalbuena You've posted a lot of unnecessary questions to CGCC meta and Mother Meta in the last few weeks...maybe just run your questions by us first

Most often they can be answered pretty easily in chat

Unrelated String

^

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

22:39

(Unless they're feature requests, but even then getting feedback before posting to CGCC meta or especially MM is a good idea)

Fmbalbuena

> How to allow others to add a label in github?

Bgil Midol

22:59

@emanresuA what does that do?

emanresu A

Finds the largest number that can be made out of a digit list and is divisible by 3

Bgil Midol

lambda x:max(list(filter(lambda s: sum(x) % 3 == 0, set(x).powerset()))) works I think

emanresu A

By concatenating digits, I mean

Oh I see

Still not quite though

Bgil Midol

brb

emanresu A

23:15

OFFLINE FOR MAINTENANCE???

lyxal

Yes

emanresu A

:(

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

lyxal

@taRadvylfsriksushilani at least 3

emanresu A

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Try rebooting it

Aaroneous Miller

23:17

@emanresuA Google, or the cats?

emanresu A

Both

Aaroneous Miller

oh ok

Fmbalbuena

@BgilMidol I invited you to fix the bug (Github)

CGCC offline?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

not for me

Fmbalbuena

@taRadvylfsriksushilani ok

now works.

How to gain 50 rep?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

23:26

Post 5 good answers

Fmbalbuena

@taRadvylfsriksushilani another way?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

"I want rep but I don't want to do work to get it", in other words?

Unrelated String

:|

Fmbalbuena

@taRadvylfsriksushilani yes

@GingerIndustries Hi

DLosc

@emanresuA You can't reboot it if you never booted it in the first place

emanresu A

23:40

CMC: Send this:

-̶-̶-̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶-̶-̶-̶

Bgil Midol

-̵-̵-̵s̵t̵r̵i̵k̵e̵t̵h̵r̵o̵u̵g̵h̵-̵-̵-̵

emanresu A

Nvm dammit

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

-̶-̶-̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶-̶-̶-̶

Fmbalbuena

~~~strikethrough~~~

@emanresuA bounty me 50 rep ^ lol

emanresu A

No.

Bgil Midol

23:44

@Fmbalbuena ?

Fmbalbuena

@BgilMidol NLRNIS repo

if you know debugging

I have trouble sending due maintenance.

Too late, i have to go o/

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