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> The article says that in 2020, this "artificial moon" will be launched from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan to illuminate the night sky.
An ordinary satellite doesn't "illuminate the night sky" though
 
And you'd need to build a small nuclear power plant large nuclear power plant miniature sun to get enough power to do that
 
Or a mirror
:p
 
I think they're literally planning for a mirror
 
... Astronomers would hate china for that
 
12:05 AM
Lol yeah. If the thing is near-perfect mirror then the other places will see a black blob blocking the sky
 
1:00 AM
Sandbox posts last active a week ago: (untitled), Make an ASCII Quasi-Golden Rectangle
 
> IA-64 (Intel Itanium architecture) is the instruction set architecture (ISA) of the Itanium family of 64-bit Intel microprocessors. The basic ISA specification originated at Hewlett-Packard (HP), and was evolved and then implemented in a new processor microarchitecture by Intel with HP's continued partnership and expertise on the underlying EPIC design concepts.
Fun to read this as if "EPIC" isn't an initialism :p
 
The people at HP and Intel are just epic gamers
4
 
Totally out of context: I'm seriously considering naming my golflang "Epic Gamer"
 
I'm planning on naming mine a randomly generated string of letters
 
@Bubbler Have you made/designed/implemented/partially created a spec for it yet?
 
1:14 AM
Vyxal and 05AB1E are so easy to find information on compared to Jelly, Ash, Husk, etc.
 
@RedwolfProgrammed Wdym? Jelly has a pretty good wiki
 
I mean with google/ddg/bing/etc.
 
oh lol
 
There's only one thing called "vyxal" or "05ab1e", but there's a million jellies/ashes/husks
 
@RedwolfProgrammed incorrect: there's like at least one or two other things that come up for vyxal that isn't the golflang ;p
@RedwolfProgrammed so that's why you append language to your search query
 
1:16 AM
@emanresuA No, just a bit of scribbles and random thought experiments
 
@lyxal I get the repo, the esolangs page, the organisation, the interpreter, the lotm nomination, the tips page, user's CR post, hyper's video... Then a house in Napier.
 
@RedwolfProgrammed searching for vyxal also gives SE questions from the HNQ at the same time that Vyxal related questions were in the hnq
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Whoever edited Vyxal in alongside Golfscript is an epic memer
Why tf did I just get a youtube ad for nebraska
Just nebraska
 
1:21 AM
@lyxal I suppose that's the price you pay for having a language tag on Code Review :p
@emanresuA that was not me
 
We have a tag here as well :p
Because of one question...
 
@emanresuA yeah but that isn't as cool as having a tag on CR
@emanresuA two
There's two questions
 
The tips page doesn't count, you need an actually applicable question
@lyxal I know. It's probably the same person that edited it into the esolangs page
 
Ok it was math.
 
1:26 AM
@Bubbler Looks good to me
 
@Adám how do you pronounce הנני ?
 
@LeakyNun It kind-of needs vowels, but "hineni" where the first two vowels are short.
 
@Adám with stress on e?
 
1:28 AM
Yes, typo.
 
@RedwolfProgrammed This made someone I was sitting near check their phone lol
 
@Adám or I guess the stress would be on the first syllable?
because you seem to shift stress to the first syllable
 
No, never on the first. It is either with short e and final stress, or long stressed e, depending on context.
 
blogger.com/profile/04781477187782362237... Someone stole your name idea, @lyxal
 
@LeakyNun Here in verse 7 it has short e and final stress and in verse 11 it has long stressed e.
 
1:35 AM
@emanresuA yes I know that
 
@Adám and here in verse 3?
 
@emanresuA I know, I've looked it up before
 
@LeakyNun Even shorter e (schwa) and therefore final stress.
 
@Adám and is there a reason why it has 3 pronunciations?
 
1:44 AM
@LeakyNun In that verse 3 the next word is an emphasis on the actual word ("here I am" – the meaning is almost the same if the following word is removed). In the verse 7, the next word is completely separate from the first ("here I am, my son"). In verse 11, there is no next word ("here I am.") because we're at the end of the verse, so the voice changes and the stress is moved earlier, but to receive the moved stress, the vowel has to be elongated.
Since the normal form is the medial, I initially answered you that the e was short.
 
I just remembered that I had started Ash on January 1st, as a challenge to make a golfing language as a quick two week project
That definitely didn't go as planned lol
 
@Adám what form is הִנְנִי ?
 
Closely tied to the next word.
 
this sounds very complicated lol
 
@RedwolfProgrammed that's for sure
Apr 21 at 12:44, by Lyxal
Alright everyone bets are open on the amount of work Redwolf will do on ash today. Will it be much, will it be none at all? No one knows!
That was in April
 
1:50 AM
@LeakyNun Lots of nuance in expression. The translation "Behold, I, even I, will" isn't very good, at least for a modern audience. I'd say a more accurate rendering would be "Behold, I will" or "Behold I alone will".
 
@Adám does every word have 3 forms?
 
No, but many do.
In a sense, words (as in a dictionary) don't really exist per se, only concepts (represented as consonant groups) that are then applied or modified using specific vowelisations, prefixes, infixes, and suffixes.
 
as in, even after all the prefixes and suffixes
 
Well yes, once you've fully applied a root concept, then you have a word, but it might never have been used before.
Even personal names take many forms depending on usage and context.
 
as in, עיני meaning "my eye" only has 1 pronunciation right
 
1:59 AM
I think the stress can move from the last to the first syllable if the word appears at the end of a sentence.
 
hmm...
 
And the final vowel can change if the word is tied to the next following word, but then it doesn't really mean "my eye" any more.
 
yeah I'm only focusing on "my eye"
@Adám do you pronounce hebrew words in yiddish differently than if they appear in the Tanakh?
 
Right, then I think it can only have two pronunciations.
Yes, I do.
 
aha, that explains more
 
2:03 AM
But so far, I've only spoken about the formal grammar, not casual or modern usage.
 
I assume you don't speak casual/modern Hebrew
 
I do.
 
also when you're reading the Tanakh, do you read ת as /t/ or /s/?
@Adám oh interesting
do you use the Sephardic pronunciation for modern Hebrew?
 
@LeakyNun Depends on if it has a dot in the middle /t/ or not /s/. Or if I want to be extra precise, I read it as /θ/ when without dot.
@LeakyNun No, then I use Israeli pronunciation.
 
@Adám what's the difference?
so you're telling me, even for the exact same word in the exact same context, you have 3 ways of pronouncing it (Yiddish, formal, modern)
 
2:08 AM
Proper Sephardic pronunciation distinguishes between "bh" (undotted beth) and "w" (waw) while modern Hebrew doesn't. Sephardic pronunciation has a guttural 'ayin while modern Hebrew has merged it with aleph.
 
I see
 
@LeakyNun No, I have many more :-)
 
@Adám what else?
 
Also English informal Litvish and formal Litvish. And if I'm dealing with say a song of particular origin, I might switch to Sephardic or Yemenite pronunciation.
(Where I take "formal" as you stated above to mean "formal Hungarian".)
 
:o
how do you not confuse them
 
2:11 AM
Also, sometimes I'm more, and sometimes less, careful about the formalities in Hungarian pronunciation, depending on how important the current text is.
@LeakyNun Who says I don't? ;-)
 
it sounds like if i need to learn the british accent, american accent, australian accent, and new zealand accent at the same time
 
@LeakyNun How many Chinese languages do you know?
 
two i guess
 
@LeakyNun No, there's no requirement for the diversity I have. It is a consequence of interest and exposure to multiple groups.
@LeakyNun So you can read the same written text in two entirely different ways?
 
aha, yeah lol
 
2:13 AM
Look who's speaking! ;-)
 
@Adám is there a name for the yiddish pronunciation?
@Adám no i actually mean tiberian :-)
 
@LeakyNun There are multiple Yiddish pronunciations, although only about 3 recognisable ones have a significant number native speakers today.
 
for your yiddish pronunciation then
 
@LeakyNun Oh, that one is either extinct or might not ever have existed (it being a "scholarly invention").
@LeakyNun I use Hungarian Yiddish.
 
also do you distinguish החכר?
 
2:18 AM
Not sure what you're asking.
 
the 4 consonants ה ח כ ר
 
Assuming there's no dot כ, then yes, I personally distinguish between all 4, but most Ashkenazim do not distinguish ח and כ. All distinguish ה and ר from the rest, though some make ח very similar to ה.
 
they're a bit much for my non-gutturally-trained tongue
 
In Yiddish, I don't take care to distinguish ח and כ, but ח basically doesn't exist in Yiddish.
 
I'll just use the alveolar flap for the ר
 
2:22 AM
It is perfectly fine to say ר whichever way you say R.
(However, I can imagine your R might be close to your L – I can't remember.)
 
in that case i'll trill it lol
 
ה is identical to English H (when not silent).
 
not that i ever need to pronounce hebrew
@Adám even the english way? XD
 
It is acceptable to collapse ח כ into any type of "kh" sound, as in Scottish "loch" or German "mich" or "sich".
@LeakyNun Absolutely.
 
great
 
2:25 AM
Of course, if there's a dot in כ then it is a normal K, and that is fine to collapse with ‎‎ק too.
 
you distinguish those? :o (i'm talking about ק and כּ)
 
Only when being very careful – or playing Yemenite.
When being very careful, I say ק as "gk" and when playing Yemenite it is a hard "g".
(For most Yemenites, ג is a soft R when undotted, and a "dj" as in "jeep" when dotted.)
 
I guess Arabic also has many pronunciations
 
Yes, it is barely mutually intelligible from Morocco to Yemen.
 
2:44 AM
That one question from Academia's been spawning a lot of chat flags
 
3:36 AM
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Q: Binary triangle A141727

BubblerChallenge Generate the 2D sequence of bits of A141727. (Allowed I/O methods explained below.) 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1...

 
@RedwolfProgrammed Why not? Nebraska is pretty neat ^_^
 
Hmm, fair argument I guess
 
Uh, I hate having real-life thing to do. I have a super simple and elegant solution to integer linear equation thingy, but I don't have time to write down a full answer for it :/
 
I get Nebraska tourism ads on YouTube from time to time. I don't think it knows that I'm from there originally.
 
Well done to whoever predicted that alephalpha would soon give a Mathematica answer :)
@Bubbler argh! Do you think you might have time soon?
@LeakyNun the main thing is that Moroccan Arabic is not the same as Tunisian Arabic which is not the same as Egyptian Arabic and so on
@Adám ah you already said this :)
 
4:03 AM
@DLosc imagine getting ads
made by adblocker gang
 
@PyGamer0 I definitely use an adblocker on my personal laptop, but I haven't installed one on my work laptop
 
@DLosc oh i get it
 
@RedwolfProgrammed Oh wow
 
ooh are we doing lyal but for natural languages
 
4:06 AM
lol
 
I... would kinda love that, actually
 
Yeah same
 
Although natural languages are far too big to cover even the basics in 24 hours
Writing systems would be doable, though
 
Let's do that one with the 80 or 100 something click consonants, shouldn't be too hard :p
 
alas my first shave is marked irrelevant by discord user zygan
 
4:11 AM
@DLosc LYAA where the last A stands for (variously) alphabet, abjad, or abugida
 
@DLosc or apl
 
4:28 AM
cmq: how do i credit someone not on the site who said ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ when asked how they wanted to be credited
for a golf
they helpd a bit
 
If it's a suggested golf, the usual -x thanks to xyz probably
 
CMQ: Unicode characters for Input
as in taking input(
 
@RedwolfProgrammed it wont be weird that "zygan" isnt a person on the site?
 
@PyGamer0 I'd usually use an ASCII one since that's an important function, like i or I, but maybe something like ¹?
 
or will throwing "discord user" in front clear it up
 
4:31 AM
@thejonymyster maybe -1 thanks to xxxx in discord
 
@thejonymyster That'd clear it up yeah
 
ahh thank u
 
Nobody's going to be interrogating you about your byte saves though :p
 
also i wish it was -1 it was actually -4 T_T so much haha
@RedwolfProgrammed but how will i sleep at night O.O
 
@thejonymyster My trick for that involves a parachute, a candle, and a whole, raw salmon
 
4:34 AM
@RedwolfProgrammed ive tried that, salmon always manages to slip away halfway through the finnish national anthem
 
Have you tried switching from 240 volts to full HD?
 
hmm.. that might just do the trick :-)
 
CMQ: What commands should I add (have a lot of space left)
 
Try looking at Jelly or Husk for ideas, those should cover lots of the important ones (there's also Vyxal, 05AB1E, Ash, etc.)
 
also jelly now has 660 stars!
i just starred it now
 
4:53 AM
trying to think of something you wouldnt already have
all cheekylike
@PyGamer0 wait what type of input output per thing is there
i dont wanna be like "square it" and youre like "sorry it has to be a five input function"
 
@PyGamer0 You're using overloads, right?
 
5:13 AM
@PyGamer0 If you can't think of more commands, you can settle with the current ones and compress programs instead
 
oh smart
 
 
2 hours later…
7:47 AM
@user "swap caps lock <-> escape" supremacy
 
8:08 AM
Idk why nytimes tries to stop you from reading too many articles - you can just Ctrl-A Ctrl-C while the page is loading and paste it into a google doc or contenteditable div.
 
or just open it in a new browser session?
 
Tried that, I think it uses your IP
 
can you look at Google's cached version of it?
 
Is there a way to access the whole thing?
 
@emanresuA that suggests the blocking is done mainly client-side, so maybe your browser's Reader Mode will work?
 
8:16 AM
Nope:
Give me an hour to read documentation about reader mode
 
@emanresuA just look at the web archive version of it
 
Oh big brain
 
I love the trusty wayback machine
 
@emanresuA Ok, all the docs I can find are either extension APIs or unrelated stuff containing 'reader', so I'm guessing reader mode sends different metadata to the server in the request.
@lyxal I wonder how big their servers are...
 
@emanresuA /shrug
 
8:25 AM
Your userscript is slow
It happens
12 hours ago, by emanresu A
Ugh userscript is slow
Oct 26 at 8:03, by emanresu A
Ugh userscript slow
Oh wait are you on mobile or somethinng?
 
8:47 AM
It has four close votes right now...
 
9:12 AM
Idk why it got four unclear CVs in the first place
If some part is unclear, please leave a comment
 
It's also on HNQ
 
yeah, i don't really see the unclear part
 
10:11 AM
@emanresuA lol yes
@MannyQueen haha undertale pfp go brrr
 
 
1 hour later…
11:28 AM
@Bubbler compress program?
 
Like stax
 
wat?
 
You know the stax golfing language?
 
@emanresuA wdym
@lyxal yes
 
like that
 
11:30 AM
@lyxal what does that do?
 
It just means "Hello, World! and èï┬▀↨╩4G are equivalent
the second is just a compressed version of the first
each character in the second doesn't have a special command
 
@lyxal oh
ooh
 
basically, treat the program as a string and compress it
it's as if you wrapped your program inside a string, compressed it, and then eval'd that
for languages that have each and every codepoint doing something, that isn't an option
 
it seems easier to go to the jelly wiki and copy stuff
 
11:45 AM
I want to make a golfing language with a codepage where all the characters can be typed with the X11 compose key so I never have to copy and paste
 
@pxeger use J/K
ez
 
ASCII-only is bad for golfing though
 
My keyboard easily supports typing 11172+x different chars but I don't have any nice idea to use them in golflangs
11172 because this
And I sometimes find myself Ctrl+CVing ascii chars from Jelly wiki page anyway
 
12:01 PM
don't we all?
like I know I've gotten so accustomed to copy-pasting unicode characters from non-ascii codepage that I'll copy-paste ascii stuff
4
 
tio.run/… playing aruond with mathematica, it's pretty powerful
 
@PyGamer0 as in, overloads based on type (like how / does different things in Vyxal based on the types of its arguments)
 
@pxeger don't tell him that though
7
 
12:16 PM
who's him? PyGamer0?
 
ASCII-only
 
oh lol
 
12:31 PM
@lyxal i dont have types
in the sense i have 1 type
 
oh so then you aren't doing overloads any more
 
yes

Strings are useless.

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clearly emanresu A gave up
 
1:26 PM
why do people use 0-9 in regex when \d is right there (or is it not always right there)
 
I'll use it in things like a-zA-Z0-9_, and only \d when it's 0-9 on its own
Also I think some regices match things other than 0-9 with \d
Like Unicode number forms
 
ahr, i see
 
2:15 PM
It seems like this blog post idea has pretty much been implemented in the form of LYAL.
 
itd be nice to have a permanently accessible, nicely formatted version though
wait is that comma necessary i hate grammar so muhhch
 
2:38 PM
well permanently is wrong, but i was in a rush to type that out haha
 
3:13 PM
Back in the squidward classroom
 
3:43 PM
@NewPosts spam?
 
Not from what I can tell, just someone who's very lost
Actually, spam
Didn't notice the link
 
the username makes it 100% a spam post lol
 
We get some weird spam here
Also who would buy what seems to be pretty specialized scientific supplies from some company just because they find a link on a site about code golf
That's a pretty questionable marketing strategy
 
possibly for SEO
although people general profile spam for that
 
Oh, good point
I wonder if there's some sort of thing you can put in meta tags/robots.txt to indicate a page is user-created and shouldn't be used for SEO
Well, about to do my presentation for CS class
I might upload Steganosaurus to my GH, it's pretty cool
 
4:01 PM
CMP: Is matrix multiplication more important than Cartesian product?
 
They're both quite important
Make room for both
I'd say cartesian product is slightly more useful though
 
i dont get how matrix multiplication is even multiplication
wait, srry, was looking at the wrong page
 
4:18 PM
> I also changed What do you mean you changed the... oh. OH. — Bob Apr 20 '14 at 6:00
3
 
incredible
 
matrix multiplication is definitely some sorta multiplication
+.× in APL
 
i was reading a misleading diagram on an unrelated page
 
@PyGamer0 Define "important" :P
Cause you need the Cartesian product to define the concept of a function (mathematical), so definitely that, in that context :P
 
4:51 PM
@PyGamer0 Pip has Cartesian product and doesn't have matrix multiplication, but that probably says more about my lack of matrix algebra know-how than anything.
 
cartesian product is 1 byte in jelly and matrix multiplication is 2
and as we all know, jelly's 1-byte vs. 2-byte selection is flawless and always accurate, so cartesian product is more important
 
I was about to say that lol
 
5:09 PM
Instructions: Upload an image, then you can use the slider at the top to inspect the lower bits of the image. You can use the various color and alpha filters as well.
I'd recommend this image for testing
 
5:29 PM
@spooky-neutrino *glares at G*
 
What does G do?
The description is pretty vague
 
Formats its argument as a space/newline separated, padded grid
 
That's an oddly specific single byte operator...
 
5:31 PM
Interestingly it's used more times than quite a few other operators
 
Basically, when Dennis was writing Jelly, there were a lot of challenges being posted requiring padded output formats
It's not entirely useless, but it's an easy target to bully for being one byte :P
 
The fact that its one byte to convert to rads, but 2 to convert from annoys me
 
G has been used 70 times, ° has been used a grand total of 6 :p
 
5:32 PM
Tbf, most of Jelly's one byte builtins that aren't used a lot are those that come in clutch when they are used
 
yeah
though that is sort of how that tends to go in general
 
They're either incredibly general purpose, or super specific :P
 
G is the sort of thing that every language should have on a digraph if for no other reason than that it's nice for footers :P
 
Yeah, I've always "equated" G and the ŒR overdot one in terms of usefulness
 
5:36 PM
I'm going to try to use a markov chain to write JS answers
Wait no I'm not that would be stupid
 
6:05 PM
Wow the school food has become worse
No idea how
No more french fries. Just a single small chicken sandwich. And they switched to this awful new chicken.
 
6:28 PM
I love how there are proposed classes of particles called WIMPs, WISPs, and SIMPs
1 and 3 had to have been on purpose
 
6:44 PM
@RedwolfProgrammed Stop stealing my ideas
 
6:57 PM
calling all esolang people. Can this is be done in your favourite golfing language? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/236784/98590
 
7:12 PM
for three integers a, b, c and I want to check that all pairs are coprime, is there a short way to do that in python?
that is gcd(a, b) == 1 and gcd(a, c) = 1 and gcd(b, c) == 1
 
@emanresuA Now that I know it's your idea too I'm gonna do it
You can't stop me
 
7:29 PM
can a spooky neutrino still be hyper?
@RedwolfProgrammed Hopefully, unlike the fries, it's at least fully cooked
 
No worries on that front, they cooked it until the outer quarter of an inch of it had the texture of a cereal box
 
excellent
 
8:04 PM
CMC For integers a, b, c, check that all three pairs are coprime
 
jelly: Œcg/€ṀỊ (probably could be shorter)
 
8:26 PM
CMQ: Would a "polyglot but each language has to be in a different encoding" challenge be good?
 
@emanresuA I could just do "Python 2 in ASCII" and "Python 3 in UTF-8", couldn't I?
 
True...
 
@pxeger thanks. How much less is that than the naive method?
 
@Anush it's -7 bytes more... ato.pxeger.com/…
(goddammit that was seriously fat-fingered)
I'm tired
the naive method is actually shorter, I didn't bother to try it lol
 
8:42 PM
Ah
It's a challenge then!
Does import math.gcd as g not work?
@spooky-neutrino tio ?
 
@Anush no
 
:(
 
(misread your message)
it tries to treat math.gcd as a package
 
Ah I see
from math import gcd as g?
 
that's longer
 
8:56 PM
Yes :(
 
9:12 PM
This looks so ripe for jelly or vyxal ! codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/236784/98590
 
It'd probably be kinda boring to just port a mathy algorithm into either language
Great marketing for your questions, though :P
 
what makes you think this looks nice for jelly
 
9:28 PM
And ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There's probably a better way to do that with all the builtins golflangs have available
 
@spooky-neutrino more suitable for vyxal?
@user only if you find showing off golf skills boring :)
@emanresuA that would be cool!
@user thanks ! I’ll get rich soon :)
(by giving away bounty err…)
 
Sep 26 '17 at 20:26, by caird coinheringaahing
ಠ_ಠ I hate what Jelly has made me do. I just copy pasted the character W
 
@spooky-neutrino :-D
 
9:47 PM
CMQ: What flavour is Jelly?
 
@emanresuA if it was pastry it would be short
 
@emanresuA Red
Amorica and Brittany sound like parodies of America and Britain
 
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