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lyxal

I'm so big brain

I went to quickly hop onto an online workshop for my math course right

And I was speedrunning getting there

Only to realise that i was being a dumb frick because I forgor that it's the mid semester break

Meaning there is no workshop today

Browncat Programs

03:16

I was supposed to write a short essay this weekend and I forgor 💀

lyxal

Woo I just hit 1M views of my photos on google maps

Very cool

It definitely helps that 60% of those views comes from a single photo :p

Unrelated String

where though

also wow

lyxal

@UnrelatedString from a department store

Unrelated String

ah

lyxal

13k of the 1m are on a picture of 2l milk cartons in a fridge

pVC aecidiospore adduced

04:03

@BrowncatPrograms rip

emanresu A

04:20

@lyxal How?

lyxal

59 mins ago, by lyxal

It definitely helps that 60% of those views comes from a single photo :p

emanresu A

Of what?

lyxal

58 mins ago, by lyxal

@UnrelatedString from a department store

emanresu A

Lol :p

I'm bored

lyxal

no, you're emanresu A

emanresu A

04:27

No, you're joking, not Lyxal.

lyxal

I never claimed to be JoKing

and I deny any claims I am

Wansen

07:56

?

Wansen

08:15

What if there was a SE API for Python (and other languages too!)?????

import stackexchangeapi.network as se_network
import stackexchangeapi.chat as se_chat
import stackexchangeapi.authenticate as se_auth
se_network.set_network("codegolf")
se_auth.do_auth(browser=se_auth.browsers.CHROME)
if se_auth.get_user().reputation < 20:
    print("Unable to chat, not enough reputation")
else:
    roomIDs = (1,126868,127817)
    places_to_post = [se_chat.get_room(roomID) for roomID in roomIDs]
    for chatID in places_to_post:
        se_chat.post("What happens if a non moderator fake “places a room in timeout”? Just asking - WD", chatID = chatID)

Oops I noticed a bug in my fake code lemme fix that

import stackexchangeapi.network as se_network
import stackexchangeapi.chat as se_chat
import stackexchangeapi.authenticate as se_auth
se_network.set_network("codegolf")
se_auth.do_auth(browser=se_auth.browsers.CHROME)
if se_auth.get_user().reputation < 20:
    print("Unable to chat, not enough reputation")
else:
    roomIDs = (1,126868,127817)
    for roomID in roomIDs:
        se_chat.post("What happens if a non moderator fake “places a room in timeout”? Just asking - WD", room = se_chat.get_room(id = roomID))

pVC aecidiospore adduced

WD there are bots

and dont put all your code (thats big) here, use something like paste

lyxal

Or github gists

Gists are cool amiright?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

08:34

yes

but i think they are overkill for short stuff like this

^ hmm progress (am making a new font based on minecraft's font)

CMQ: What should I name that ^.

lyxal

the "n" is my favorite glyph

i dont think it's possible to create a font based on minecraft's font, it's not a font

(gpt3's thoughts on your font)

pVC aecidiospore adduced

cool

@lyxal what should i name it gpt3?

lyxal

It really doesn't want to help yoy

emanresu A

Helło

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@emanresuA olleh

emanresu A

08:48

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced olleholleollolo

pVC aecidiospore adduced

wait whats that language where hello is alloha?

lyxal

emanresu A

Hawaiian?

lyxal

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced MCRocraft

It finally gave me a serious answer

I think someone at Microsoft accidentally turned on the attitude setting for GPT-3 :P

pVC aecidiospore adduced

m..minecraft font of awesomeness?

@emanresuA yes olleh sounds like alloha

wait thats the wrong one

i meant: "hello"[::-1] == "hola" in spanish

oll eh

^ does that look like what its supposed to?

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08:57

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Q: Best response to the Evolution of Trust?

Backstory I was fiddling around with the Evolution of Trust and thought of this.Warning: I recommend you go check it out first before attempting this challenge. Summary for people who haven’t played A quick summary of what it says on the site: there is a machine. If you put in one coin, your oppo...

emanresu A

@BrowncatPrograms Why is NP still WOOF?

Adám

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Yeah, but I think you can do better.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Adám ^?

Adám

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced I was thinking more like:

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Adám looks better!

Adám

09:02

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Do you have a sample of Minecraft's font?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Adám i just copied basic latin

Adám

For 5×7px fonts, there are not a lot of possibilities. How aboubt just using something like this?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

09:26

@Adám 1st release!

Adám

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced A screenshot of a font sample would be a nice addition to the readme.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Adám that would be for later

emanresu A

09:39

Is this for Dinoux?

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Btw is "Die-nooks" the correct way to pronounce Dinoux?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@emanresuA no

why would it be?

@emanresuA idk, "di(as in diagraph) nox(as in luvonox)"

@lyxal what browser do you use? on andriod

Adám

10:09

CMQ What do you call someone who "does social media"?

rak1507

@Adám an idiot ;)

Adám

Was looking for something like an informal job title.

I think content creator is the term.

rak1507

yeah, probably

to me that sounds more like youtube videos/stuff like that

lyxal

10:28

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced duckduckgo

@Adám influencer

Adám

:-/

lyxal

No seriously that's the cool kids term

mediakix.com/blog/influencer-definition-marketing

Adám

Oh, thanks.

emanresu A

10:51

'nigth

pxeger

@Adám Social Media Manager?

Jo King

@Adám donatello does ~~machines~~ social media

Wansen

@lyxal You should name it “Minecraft font”

Adám

MINECRAFonT

Wansen

Good idea

I think I prefer that actually

MINECRAF on T

Dig down 100m and bury a big steel letter T there. Fill in your hole and make a life-sized word MINECRAF with lifelike 1m*1m*1m minecraft:spawner that has real pigs around it

MINECRAF on T (literally)

LOL

Adám

11:06

@Wansen MINE̞CRAF (might need to zoom in to see it)

Wansen

MINECRAFT on T (literally)

*oops

Oh

wait

I see the T now

BRUH

LOL (haha x36)

pVC aecidiospore adduced

12:05

CMQ: Why would I want to learn assembly, Ex nasm

can i control my hardware with it?

caird coinheringaahing

13:23

@Wansen "what if" - there is: pypi.org/project/StackAPI

It's just a fancy wrapper over the actual SE API tho

lyxal

oh hey redwofl

Browncat Programs

Oh hi

redwolf -> redwofl -> rofl -> lmao -> llama

Redwolf is actually a llama confirmed

lyxal

I mean, sure.

caird coinheringaahing

Are you ever going to go back to Redwolf? :P

Browncat Programs

Maybe I'll be Greenalpaca first :p

I'll probably switch back today though

caird coinheringaahing

13:29

Oh god, are we having an alpaca week next? :P

Browncat Programs

Might keep the pfp though, this one's pretty cool

lyxal

hey we still need goat week first ;P

caird coinheringaahing

Also:

5 hours ago, by emanresu A

@BrowncatPrograms Why is NP still WOOF?

Browncat Programs

I'll change that while I'm at it I guess

It is done

Aaron Miller

I just had a horrible idea. :|

I'll tell you guys my horrible idea if/when I do it.

lyxal

13:35

@AaronMiller it can't be any worse than my new idea for multiple inheritance rules

Aaron Miller

@lyxal I don't know, it's pretty horrible :)

lyxal

@AaronMiller I bet you haven't seen the crappy specs I just drafted

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@lyxal i wouldn't call them crappy

Aaron Miller

@lyxal I haven't

lyxal

@AaronMiller go to vyxal room then

pVC aecidiospore adduced

13:50

CMC: print a random utf8 char

lyxal

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Vyxal: `⟑Ẇ a ⌐‡ ꜝẊ8 ȧ¬

Aaron Miller

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Vyxal: ₀℅ Randomly prints either 0 or 1, both of which are utf8 chars :P

lyxal

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Vyxal: 4 (guaranteed random utf8 char, chosen by fair dice roll)

Aaron Miller

Oh no, I've been outgolfed!

lyxal

Hehe get gamed on nerd

Aaron Miller

13:55

I could use implicit input/output to print 0, but that's not nearly as random as 4

lyxal

@AaronMiller exactly

You don't see me rolling a 0 in that one video I made that somehow got 1.8k views

You see me rolling a 4 after 17 failed attempts

Browncat Programs

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced "UTF-8 char" makes no sense

Do you mean "unicode char"?

Or "arraybuffer containing the char's UTF-8 representation"?

lyxal

@BrowncatPrograms a character found in the utf8 encoding is what I'd assume

Browncat Programs

If it's the first one, JS: String.fromCodePoint(Math.random()*1114111|0)

hyper-neutrino

aren't all unicode characters found in the UTF-8 encoding

Browncat Programs

13:59

Yeah

hyper-neutrino

in which case it would make more sense to ask for a unicode character because the encoding doesn't really matter unless you want the raw bytes

Browncat Programs

CMQ: What are your opinions on the furriest airlocks?

hyper-neutrino

the what

Browncat Programs

Presumably the airlocks with the most fur

It's harder to make TNB discuss a random topic than I thought it'd be :p

Or maybe my random topic is just too random

pVC aecidiospore adduced

CMC: Print a totally random number from 69 to 420

inclusive both ends

CMC: Make an equilateral triangle.

brownie point you use opengl

brownie points if you use assembly / c

Browncat Programs

14:11

Polyglot, no brownies: '▲'

pVC aecidiospore adduced

TypeError: ^~~~~ Unrecognized userID Browncat

Adám

@BrowncatPrograms What code page is that?

Browncat Programs

Unicode :p

Adám

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced APL: 68+?352⊣⎕RL←⍬

pVC aecidiospore adduced

14:27

@Adám how does that work?

@BrowncatPrograms unicat :P

caird coinheringaahing

The Loop: Our Community Department Roadmap for Q4 2021

Philippe Beaudette on September 19, 2021

It’s time once again for the ritual that I know we’ve all come to love: the quarterly update on Community team projects. This quarter’s projects are constrained by a lack of available technical/engineering resources on our Public Platform team, so you’ll see that we are focusing on projects that don’t require assistance from them.

Q4 looks interesting

Weighted close votes especially

Adám

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced It asks the OS for a random number, so it comes from a shared pool, thus being completely unpredictable.

Redwolf Programs

Wheat Wizard

Is it possible to underline in an SE question / answer?

(Without mathjax)

Adám

@WheatWizard Possibly using combining characters.

Wheat Wizard

14:37

Unfortunately that sort of thing creates accessibility issues.

caird coinheringaahing

@WheatWizard No, by design

Wheat Wizard

But I'm already using bolding and italics to mean something~

Redwolf Programs

Just make it a link :p

It comes with a color and cursor change for free

caird coinheringaahing

You can (ab)use Mathjax to underline it

Redwolf Programs

> (Without mathjax)

Adám

14:40

@cairdcoinheringaahing I know of one common use case for underlining: proofreading. You can't bold or italicise whitespace.

Wheat Wizard

I'm also not very happy that I can't tag foreign language text thus in order to be WCAG 2.0 compliant my only option is to only use English text.

Redwolf Programs

15:15

> Thanks for taking the time to let us know. Our team is currently investigating the repository in question.

Yay!

That DDoS tool's under investigation

caird coinheringaahing

15:26

Fun fact: stasoid is 21 answers and 68 upvotes away from having a gold tag badge in this question alone (and will get the silver polyglot tag badge once 5 more polyglot questions are asked)

SEDE query

@Tacoタコス Re your recent MSE post, if you use userscripts, Redwolf developed Generic Review Tool, which can make a ping noise anytime something enters the review queues

Taco タコス

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh bet! :D

Thanks for that!

Oh my lord, I don't want to include SO lol

The queues there are always active

deletes

Redwolf Programs

It'll only do it for /review tabs you have open :p

Taco タコス

Lol

Oh really? I hadn't made it that far yet lol

caird coinheringaahing

Pretty sure using GRT on SO would brick your browser :P

Redwolf Programs

For any sites you want to review on, just open the /review page for that site (and probably pin it). It'll play a ping noise (if you set line 35 to true) and open the task in a new tab whenever it shows up.

caird coinheringaahing

15:36

I've deleted the @match for SO on my version just to be safe :P

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing It actually doesn't, it'll only open each queue once :p

Figured that out by mistake

caird coinheringaahing

So it won't try to open all 1k reviews that are in that one queue?

Redwolf Programs

Don't think so, no

caird coinheringaahing

Ah nice :P

Redwolf Programs

I'll go check. If I don't come back...go on without me :p

Yeah, it just opened one tab for each queue :p

caird coinheringaahing

15:40

This has reminded me that you got it working on meta sites as well, so I've finally added codegolf.meta/reviews to my pinned tabs :P

Redwolf Programs

Eventually I'll get around to having it check multiple sites with one tab open

Like what RSR would do, but not as annoying

DLosc

16:00

@user So... your microphone advice kind of worked.

Tried plugging my headset into a different laptop, had the same problem. Called tech support. Tech support guy had me plug it into my phone and verified that it wasn't a hardware issue, then said, "I have no idea how to set it up on Windows, sorry, try Windows tech support." >_>

Instead, I tried messing around in Windows Sound settings, and after a while of disabling & enabling various things, suddenly it worked. I went back to my other laptop, plugged it in, and it worked right away. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hyper-neutrino

6

Q: Footer text is hard to read on meta

The styling of the footer on codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com is very low contrast and the text is hard to read, especially the list subtitles. I have selected some of the text "NETWORK", which helps, but this still needs to be fixed. Here is a screenshot - or just scroll down a bit ;) I'm using ...

bug status-planned meta css

can anyone reproduce this anymore? I made a userscript to fix it and turning it off / disabling tampermonkey seems to not make the bug come back, but I'm not sure if it's a cache issue or anything liek that

Redwolf Programs

Looks like it's fixed for me

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, it looks fixed

DLosc

Yep. Text is a lot brighter now. And I don't use any userscripts, so what I see is the real deal. ;P

caird coinheringaahing

Might be worth reaching out to a CM/dev just to confirm they've made a change, I think there are a couple of accessibility questions on MSE that are similar that could do with status tag updates if they have

@DLosc I just use an incognito window :P

hyper-neutrino

16:13

i have tampermonkey enabled on private windows :P (though i guess i could've used chrome)

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, smart

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Encrypt this Message Given a permutation of the alphabet and an input string, encrypt the input string by replacing all characters with the one's you've been given [hnvwyajzpuetroifqkxmblgcsd], "Hello, World!" -> "Zytti, Giktw!" As [hnvwyajzpuetroifqkxmblgcsd] has been mapped to [abcdefghijklmno...

DLosc

There are only 31 users on this site who have earned more rep so far this year than Dennis has.

caird coinheringaahing

I think it was in July, Dennis got awarded a couple of bounties near the start of the month, and so was the top rep earner on the /month tag for about a week

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wow, it was in May, time goes by fast

Redwolf Programs

16:29

Anyone here able to review suggested edits on MM?

caird coinheringaahing

Yes

Redwolf Programs

I'm surprised how long it takes for reviews to happen on MM

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ It's showing there's one review in the Suggested Edits queue on MSE, and every time I click it, it shows an empty queue :/

Redwolf Programs

Same here, I just thought it was because it was mine

hyper-neutrino

also see that :/

caird coinheringaahing

16:31

Ah, it's a tag wiki edit

You need 5k for those, not 2k

Redwolf Programs

Ohhh

caird coinheringaahing

Already got one reject review :/

hyper-neutrino

> unicode character encoding

DLosc

Interesting that I can view the suggested edit, even though I don't have permissions to review it.

caird coinheringaahing

Specific reviews are, if you have the link, viewable by anyone

Makes sense a lot for disputing reviews on metas, as you can link to it directly and everyone can make their own judgement

DLosc

16:46

Ah, true

Aaron Miller

17:14

Base 10 to base 2-9 converter

DLosc

That's a lotta unprintables O.O

Aaron Miller

yep :)

It's literally like half the program lol

Redwolf Programs

17:31

>:|

My tag wiki edit was just approved, but I thought it was rejected so I downvoted 8 (bad) answers

So now I'm back where I started

Aaron Miller

What are you trying to do?

hyper-neutrino

probably get his rep to a multiple of 10

Redwolf Programs

^

Aaron Miller

ah

DLosc

I love Worldbuilding.SE X^D

Someone posts a question (https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/q/213758/9994) asking "Is this concept possible?"
Top answer: "It's not possible"
Second answer: "There are insurmountable difficulties"
Third answer: "LET'S DO IT ANYWAY"

Redwolf Programs

17:38

"Let's evolve jet engines" isn't even that crazy of a suggestion on WB lol

Should I make a bot to announce which message received the 30kth star?

I'm imagining it'll get pretty chaotic in the final ten stars, so it might be unclear which one was actually 30kth

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Q: Pythagoras' Golfing Grid

Recently, I created a binary word search that got me working with grids. It was fun, so I wanted to create some more similar content. Meet Pythagoras' Golfing grid: Each of d, e, f, h, h, i, j, k and T represent a numeric value. Now consider an orthogonal triangle along the lower diagonal of thi...

code-golf math

Redwolf Programs

18:08

Spam

About 30s, not bad

hyper-neutrino

→ 1 message moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

user

19:03

@DLosc I love and hate when stuff just starts working magically

@RedwolfPrograms ???

Redwolf Programs

@user What's the ??? for

That's exactly how secure boot works :p

user

Context?

Redwolf Programs

None

Aaron Miller

@hyper-neutrino Why are we putting a message in our brownies?

@hyper-neutrino Nice keyboard, but it, uh... doesn't fit.

@AaronMiller Oh yeah, I forgot that that was why this message exists:

in Vyxal, Aug 13 at 6:25, by emanresu A

USE FLEXBOX OR THE VELOCIRAPTORS WILL MAUL YOU

DLosc

19:47

@user I'm going to try out Scala and see if I like it. Do you have recommendations for setting up a Scala development environment?

Redwolf Programs

20:03

I'm convinced I did something to make the school administrators really mad because that's the only way they could find a way to make Latin II so objectively painful.

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Boxy Integers Let us create the idea of the Boxyness of a positive integer, which describes the highest number of dimensions that a box with positive integer-length sides can be and still have the volume of the integer in question, with the condition that the length of each side is greater than 1...

hyper-neutrino

20:20

@AaronMiller thank you for being the like 18th person to remind me that i didn't do it properly :p

Redwolf Programs

Thanks google

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms VTC as unclear. If you can add more details, this question may be on topic at Latin.SE.

(I'm also happy to give you my not-very-informed opinions :P)

Redwolf Programs

If "fabulam illam omnibus gentibus celeriter narres" doesn't mean "fabulous illagers surrounded by buses gently narrate celery", I'm quitting this class :p

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Numberless Input and Output Your program should print the one-digit numbers (0123456789) in any order. Restrictions If you remove all occurrences of a number from your code, your code should print that number. It is allowed to then raise an error (for convenience) - no extra marks for this though...

rak1507

20:37

@RedwolfPrograms not quite :P

Aaron Miller

> sanbdox things

Redwolf Programs

Don't doxx the sanb!

Aaron Miller

the sanb do be doxxing

Wansen

Umm

huh

Okay… I’m going to pretend I know what @Aaron means…

Aaron Miller

@Wansen It be mean that the sanb do doxx

Wansen

20:50

Ummmmmmmmm

Wouldn’t that make you

SUS

Aaron Miller

ඞ

Wansen

*amongus*

Redwolf Programs

What's tax in italian?

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms Boy, that reads like a contrived example from a textbook. :P I got most of it, except I'm not sure why the verb is subjunctive...

Wansen

breaking news! I learn l;atin

agricolae est in horto

Redwolf Programs

20:53

At this point I've given up actually trying to learn the language and I'm mostly just having to google the answers and change them up a bit

It's too far into the school year to change classes :/

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms Wiktionary suggests tassa or imposta

@RedwolfPrograms :(

Aaron Miller

@RedwolfPrograms The tax rate depends on your income

Redwolf Programs

@AaronMiller But that doesn't change the fact that it's pretty sus

Aaron Miller

4 mins ago, by Aaron Miller

ඞ

rak1507

21:16

@RedwolfPrograms do you not have a textbook with a dictionary at the back?

oh, you were just making an amogus joke

DLosc

21:52

ohhh

that joke
    o  <- my head
   /#\
   / \

Here I thought that you wanted to know for Latin-related reasons

user

22:30

@DLosc That's amazing! I would suggest downloading sbt, which is a pretty good build tool. You could also choose to download the actual scalac compiler itself, but sbt offers the same features and also lets you switch compilers and stuff (besides, you're probably not going to be working with single files, and for anything more than 1 file, sbt or another build tool is better)

I'd suggest using IntelliJ IDEA with the Scala plugin as an IDE, or VSCode with the Metals extension (those are the only two I've used, but Metals also has support for Sublime, Vim, Emacs, etc. afaik, and it's a pretty great language server)

Also, if you're just learning Scala, I'd suggest trying out Scala 3. While Scala 2 is (imo) absolutely amazing, it does have a few warts, and many of those have been cleared up in Scala 3

And if you just want to quickly try out code online, you can use Scastie. The worksheet mode is on by default, so you can see expressions evaluated right there without explicitly printing, even if it's not interactive like a REPL

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Q: Let's go for a rollercodester ride

Let's go for a rollercodester ride The objective of this challenge is to create a program that is run recursively through several languages of your choice. The output of the first iteration becomes the code for the second iteration, et. cetera. You choose the language sequence, but each unique l...

discussion code-golf code-challenge

user

@RedwolfPrograms Coincidentally, I just learned today that Sony put rootkits in their CDs in the 2000s

Wansen

Um

wouldn’t that make you

SUS

Sorry, couldn’t resist

user

22:46

SUS? (I know it's about amogus, but where are you getting that acronym from?)

lyxal

22:56

@RedwolfPrograms you just need to get good at directing discussion

user

@lyxal I knew a guy who was great at doing that

lyxal

Directly controlling chat is harder than it seems. It starts off easy and gets hard

Jul 18 at 3:20, 24 minutes total – 19 messages, 3 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jul 18 at 3:45 by lyxal

Yes

This kids is how you trick users of tacit languages into having a discussion

May 28 at 5:10, 1 hour 20 minutes total – 114 messages, 7 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked May 28 at 9:26 by lyxal

user

@user He could direct the conversation any way he wanted, be it his collection of cow eyeballs or insane earwax sculpting skills

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino Pretty odd request...sure you're not the im-pasta?

Directly controlling chat is harder than it seems. It starts off easy and gets hard

This kids is how you trick users of tacit languages into having a discussion

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