The Nineteenth Byte

00:03

One thing I do really like about the new profile: Patch is no longer "squashed" :P

Previously, going to my profile would produce a really weird squared pfp

web.archive.org/web/20210507012712/https://…

user

> If you want to refer to me by name, any of ~~"caird", "Jay" or "Chloe"~~ the Dude, or His/Her/Their Dudeness or Duder or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing is fine.

Dude coinheringaahing

I am not Mr. Lebowski. You're Mr. Lebowski

►

I like The Big Lebowski. I also happened to rewatch it a couple of days before I changed my username. It also also happens to be very quotable. :P

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00:21

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Q: Counting maximal domino placements

Background A maximal domino placement (MDP) on a rectangular grid is a non-overlapping placement of zero or more dominoes, so that no more dominoes can be added without overlapping some existing domino. Alternatively, it can be thought of as a tiling using dominoes and monominoes (single square p...

user

Another domino question?

Okay, now I know Bubbler is secretly a Dominos' employee trying to subliminally influence us into buyin gtheir pizza :P

Wezl

00:40

CMC: Given a string/array of characters, return an array of booleans of the same length representing whether the corresponding character is alphanumeric and palindromic

Dude coinheringaahing

What do you mean by palindromic?

All characters are palindromic

Wezl

I'm giving an example

example: a race car!!1! => remove non-alphanumeric => aracecar1 => is palindromic? (if opposite letter/number is the same) => ftttttttf => add back non-alphanumeric as falses => ffttttfttffff

uppercase does not need to be handled

might make a related main challenge when I have time (gtg now)

rak1507

can we do uppercase only and no lowercase?

Wezl

yas

Dude coinheringaahing

I don't think "palindromic" is the right word here

rak1507

00:46

{m\=∘⌽⍨⍵/⍨m←⍵∊⎕A,⎕D}

Dude coinheringaahing

The "add back non-alphanumeric as falses" is the hardest part for me :P

Wezl

@rak1507 thanks so much, I forgot about dyadic \, this will be helpful for my array language

exedraj

@Dudecoinheringaahing heh same

rak1507

@Wezl yeah it's handy for things like this

Wezl

@Dudecoinheringaahing status-by-design

rak1507

00:47

@Dudecoinheringaahing APL ftw

dzaima

@Wezl dzaima/BQN, {0≥⌽⊸≠⌾((𝕩∊•l∾•d)⊸/)𝕩}

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Rules

exedraj

@OldSandboxPosts hehe no title heading goes brrr

Bubbler

01:05

Sandbox post rulez

Redwolf Programs

Ugh google is so obnoxious sometimes...googling "start docker from nodejs" brings up a whole page of articles on how to start nodejs in docker

I'm altogether not too impressed with our AI overlords

Bubbler

I guess you can just construct a docker command and spawn it though

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, I was just wondering if there was some sort of module or something that could do it a bit more elegantly

Bubbler

01:21

Quick search gave this

Redwolf Programs

Yeah. More just annoyed at google not being able to understand word order :p

exedraj

01:57

@RedwolfPrograms chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/58678035#58678035

Redwolf Programs

That was for +100, right?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is this an interval graph? code-golf math graph-theory decision-problem Background An interval graph (Wikipedia, MathWorld, GraphClasses) is an undirected graph derived from a set of intervals on a line. Each vertex represents an interval, and an edge is present between two vertices if the corres...

exedraj

@RedwolfPrograms correct

although you can award more if you like ;P

Redwolf Programs

Sounds good, started a +10k bounty :p

exedraj

smh should have been a 420 rep bounty

Bubbler

02:01

Typical challenge-making path: have a seemingly interesting idea -> search for literature -> go to Wikipedia -> click a random interesting-looking link -> write down a totally unrelated challenge based on that

Redwolf Programs

No idea why bounties are so restrictive, I wish you could just type in any number >= 50

I'd 100% give you +69 :p

+420 is too much

exedraj

@Bubbler for a moment then I thought you were giving a CMC to optimise a route between two wikipedia pages

Bubbler

@RedwolfPrograms Possible abuse: make your rep always a multiple of 100, or make your rep a palindrome

Redwolf Programs

Hardly abuse, it costs rep for something entirely cosmetic :p

Bubbler

:P

or spam +69 with the optional text "funny" :P

Redwolf Programs

02:05

That's a plus of the system :p

Bubbler

Also that makes a blue marker saying +69 on an answer forever

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02:21

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Q: Draw a mountain given altitude

Take an array of nonnegative integers, such as [1, 0, 0, 1, 2, 4, 2, 0]. Then, draw that as a mountain where the integers represent altitude: x x x x x xx x You may use any printable non-whitespace character in place of x, and adding padding or whitespace after line...

code-golf string

Bubbler

02:48

user

03:02

@Bubbler You joke, but this is literally the recommended workaround for Scala 3 (which had do while liops removed)

@RedwolfPrograms Oh no, it’s no problem, I’m happy to receive 420 rep or even 500 🤪

dzaima

@Bubbler has the advantage of the condition being in the scope of the block even

Bubbler

03:18

@user Rust should learn from Scala then :P

PyGamer0

04:01

@Bubbler uuh how does that work?

also i have my last exam today (and this exam is hard)

Bubbler

@PyGamer0 An ordinary while loop is while expr { body }, but expr can be a block with the last line being the expression to evaluate

Since the condition evaluates first, putting everything in the condition makes the effective "body" run at least once

emanresu A

04:52

I go away for a day and come back to this mess:

exedraj

everyone did

Redwolf Programs

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Q: Some changes to the profile while we make it responsive

On our way to a fully responsive Stack Overflow, we just shipped some changes to the user profile. We won’t be enabling responsiveness just yet, but the top portion will be ready to be squishy. I hope these changes are low impact on our way to a fully responsive profile. Think of this as more a r...

discussion profile-page mobile-web announcements

emanresu A

Add my downvote to that

Redwolf Programs

Done :p

Bubbler

Oh wow, that's a lot of downvotes

emanresu A

04:55

A diamond or a badge, and preferably a diamond, especially on main.

Seriously, what is up with that diamond though

What is this (10k+)

Redwolf Programs

Looks like they self-vandalized an incorrect answer

emanresu A

Rollback?

I only just noticed this but it's annoying me

Bubbler

noticed what

emanresu A

The topbar scrolls up when you scroll down

Bubbler

status-norepro for me

emanresu A

05:08

Questions only

Bubbler

No, not even questions

emanresu A

That's weird. Browser?

Bubbler

Chrome on Windows

emanresu A

It only appears to happen on some questions - try this one

Unrelated String

i m not seeing

emanresu A

05:11

status-norepro for me too now

This is weird

No idea

Bubbler

Maybe some SO dev accidentally deployed a UI change and then immediately rolled back

emanresu A

Probably

Maybe something to do with deleted answers - the one I linked had several

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Ouput Input... Forever Problem Given input chars, output them repeatedly forever. Examples abc -> abcabcabcabcabcabcabcabcabc... [1, 2, 3] -> [1, 2, 3][1, 2, 3][1, 2, 3]... lo -> lololololololololololololol... Questions Should a delimiter be allowed? I was imagining that the input ...

AviFS

^ Hello world! ^

emanresu A

05:26

- Yes, you should enforce the repeated forever
- Yes, you should allow a delimiter of space or newline.

@AviFS ^

AviFS

This is for all the tarpits out there!

@emanresuA Hmm, not sure about the delimiter

Also, wouldn't it be interesting if we did the looser version?

I don't think it'd actually change anything for most langs, would it?

It would just allow extra creative answers in the corner cases & allow some neat langs, right?

emanresu A

Ok true

AviFS

Eg. probabilistic and random langs could totally partake!

emanresu A

I have a 13-byte Javastack solution which directly corresponds to 2 bytes in Vyxal and osabie.

AviFS

Or some weird thing where the output was somehow sorted or enumerated in some clever order...

That seems like it could only add. But I want to make sure it wouldn't fundamentally change the problem for most languages/approaches

So I'll give people a while to make sure it doesn't break the challenge

@emanresuA I have one too in a lang so obvious you'll hit yourself over the head!

emanresu A

05:33

Is it BF?

AviFS

...

Says who?

That may or may not be the inspiration for this challenge. These lips are staying shut

That and the Lololololololololol challenge

emanresu A

If it's BF, I have 19 bytes

*17

Which might actually beat a lot of conventional languages

Razetime

husk ahs a 1 byter

exedraj

@SandboxPosts husk, 1 byte: Try it online!

Ninja'd

emanresu A

How does that work...

Ooh, idea

exedraj

05:36

Repeat the argument infinitely

Simple.

@emanresuA is {₴ what you had?

emanresu A

That's what I had before

I was thinking infinite replace

but that doesn't work

The MD5 hash of my BF solution is 440597d4417ca2c26db6bdcff89a49ee

Razetime

Stax is just Wq

emanresu A

Javastack is forever print, and the most descriptive of everything so far.

Razetime

print doesn't eat its argument?

emanresu A

It has implicit input

Razetime

05:42

oh the stack just keeps cycling th einput

emanresu A

Ye

s

Razetime

are you manually implementing javastack or metaprogramming java to work that way

exedraj

Manually implementing

emanresu A

It's sorta based of Jyxal

Razetime

aaaaaaa

exedraj

05:43

At least, that's what it looks like given the source is in js

emanresu A

As in I recycled a lot of the code

exedraj

Heck yeah vyxal influence let's go

Razetime

a better idea would be just to use Java and check each space separated value

hyper-neutrino

is this even java

when i looked at it it just looked like pure js and only js

emanresu A

Not really

It's written in JS

Razetime

05:45

it would be funny to make a javaforth

Unrelated String

jorth

exedraj

Fortha

emanresu A

06:02

Jovath

exedraj

@emanresuA getting out golfed by Aaron in your own language is something you eventually get used to

emanresu A

I know

It's incredibly satisfying to watch my builtin list sorter go.

PyGamer0

yoo my exams are finished

emanresu A

Nice

PyGamer0

anyone who plays mioncraft bedrock

emanresu A

06:10

Me

Although mostly on servers these days

PyGamer0

@emanresuA do you play servers?

emanresu A

The nether is just so hard, and redstone is worse

PyGamer0

yoo whats ur exbox account

i play nethergames server

exedraj

@emanresuA have you ever beaten minecraft?

emanresu A

Once

With a friend

PyGamer0

06:11

@exedraj never

emanresu A

And full diamond

exedraj

wow

PyGamer0

i always die in the nether

hyper-neutrino

i've played win10 which i think is bedrock but i don't beleive i have it installed right now

emanresu A

(villagers)

exedraj

06:12

Fun fact: I beat minecraft with redwolf once

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino win10 == bedrock # Outputs true

@exedraj the thing about bedrock is that you cant one cycle the dragon

also you can bridge with one cps

hyper-neutrino

i think i managed to onecycle the dragon with beds but i had pretty solid equipment and just did it for fun

exedraj

i beat it on my phone once

it was pain

hyper-neutrino

since i had a lot of leftover beds

PyGamer0

@exedraj lol

emanresu A

06:13

I had a spider farm

So I had infinite beds

Only used a couple though

PyGamer0

lol

you know what

hyper-neutrino

on redwolf smp my friend built a general mob farm and i also built an enderman xp farm

PyGamer0

i will play and talk on TNB

hyper-neutrino

since this conversation will probably go on for a bit

CG&CC-gaming

For CG&CC users to discuss and play video games and board game...

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emanresu A

Someone continue the hi chain

PyGamer0

06:15

@emanresuA no lol

emanresu A

:(

exedraj

@hyper-neutrino I think it's fine here

if redwolf and caird can get away with having minecraft conversations here, so can we

hyper-neutrino

not if we're going to continue talking about gaming, especially if pygamer plans to talk about their ongoing game as they're playing it

there's a difference between discussion about it and ephemeral stream-of-consciousness-type messages, and i don't intend to move the current messages away, just that we have a room that doesn't care about game-related clutter

exedraj

Discussion on 1.17/1.18

Jul 14 at 2:07, 45 minutes total – 301 messages, 9 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jul 14 at 3:02 by Redwolf Programs

Razetime

07:19

CMC: Go to the sandbox and upvote all good questions there

6

PyGamer0

07:56

is github down?

ok nvm it came

CMQ: Do you use Termux?

Bubbler

Yes and no

PyGamer0

@Bubbler yesn't?

Bubbler

I have it installed on my phone but haven't really used it seriously since I gave up coding on the phone which is painful by itself

PyGamer0

i am reinstalling termux

exedraj

08:12

Okay so here's me. I'm doing the shopping like an epic gamer. Lots of things have been panic bought because our area went into lock down yesterday (you're allowed to get food during lock down it's a "reasonable excuse" don't judge me for being away from home).

There are bits of empty shelf scattered all over the store. I have my croissants, eggs and soup in my basket (to be eaten at different times obviously - I'm not a weirdo). I then decide to go down the juic isle for the fun of it.

I get there and I frick you not someone (not me) has placed an advacado among the juic:

The poor soul must have tried for thirtee minut with no results. Very sad.

5

So they must have left the avocad in the juic in despair

Unless of course, it was one of you guys

(true story btw)

PyGamer0

08:29

bruh

Razetime

08:51

codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283138#answer-283138

I am quite stumped on what this could be

C and C++ are red herrings

AncientSwordRage

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Q: Generating Minesweeper grids

Minesweeper is a logic game found on most OS's. The goal of the game is to determine where the mines are on a grid, given numbers indicating the number of mines around that spot. Given a grid size, and a set of mines, generate the Minesweeper grid for that set of mines. Input: Two integers indi...

code-golf minesweeper

Bounty Expiring Soon!

Razetime

09:10

nvm it's c++

Dude coinheringaahing

11:03

@hyper-neutrino Endermen xp farms are so OP. I afk-click farmed one once for an hour and was at like level 200, they're stupid fast :P

emanresu A

@Dudecoinheringaahing Dude (literally), you have not seen how insane piglin farms can get.

Ender dragon farms are even more insane but you can't afk them.

PyGamer0

i hate hannahxxrose's tricks

emanresu A

?

Dude coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Something I want mojang to add that would make farms so op would be a way to automate crafting, like how furnaces can be hopper-operated

emanresu A

11:19

This video looks at implementing the most basic form of autocrafting, and decides it's really not worth its while.

emanresu A

11:36

Possibly 'night.

Do not question my sleep schedule, I don't have one.

Dude coinheringaahing

@emanresuA That almost seems to be a requirement to be a CGCC user at this point :P

@emanresuA Hmm, I have many thoughts about that, but I'll let you sleep :P

tail spark rabbit ear

11:54

Can I even think of asking tips for restricted source in Perl? Is it variousful?

Wheat Wizard

Does anyone know of documentation for gol><>?

PyGamer0

12:22

@Dudecoinheringaahing this?

user

@Razetime Working on it :P

CMQ: What's the best error message you've seen from a compiler or interpreter?

John Dvorak

Rust's error messages are the best for sure

user

12:37

Agreed

Where's that meme of Rust laughing at semicolon homoglyphs when you need it?

John Dvorak

user

Thanks ;)

exedraj

@user if I'm allowed to s/best/cursed then Keg's original error messages take the cake

Exhibit A: github.com/Lyxal/Keg/blob/…

user

Best can mean whatever you want it to mean :P

exedraj

Exhibit B: github.com/Lyxal/Keg/blob/…

user

12:42

@exedraj bruh

exedraj

Exhibit C: github.com/Lyxal/Keg/blob/…

I full on expected my first esolang to have worse error messages, but it looks like they are quite sane

John Dvorak

This gives me an idea for the world's worst langugage: literally Rust, except all error messages are hashed by SHA1 before display

user

...why?

exedraj

why not?

user

/shrug

exedraj

12:47

Fun fact: I tried making a tacit language once. It was cringe. github.com/Lyxal/Keta

user

~~You must've been on Ketamine while making it~~

exedraj

Jokes on you because it was originally called ekg

user

@exedraj Doesn't look too bad, actually

Dude coinheringaahing

@exedraj Add++'s error handling used to be something like try: execute_program(); except: print('?'); exit() :P

user

How useful, now programmers won't have to deal with the details of the error and get stress out - they can just say "Whoops, that doesn't work, lemme start over again"

Dude coinheringaahing

13:05

RN it sometimes has custom error messages, and sometimes defaults back to Python errors: Try it online! and Try it online!

user

tmw you get 170 rep on MSE because you said "big blank plz remuv"

Oh wow, the top answer is now at 94

Dude coinheringaahing

13:23

@user And Redwolf's answer is on 60

exedraj

oh hey avi

Dude coinheringaahing

Why Vyxal is bad: it does not contain tree nuts :P

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exedraj

alright fine you got me

you finally presented a valid argument to vyxal's horribleness

Dude coinheringaahing

@exedraj What do you mean, "finally"? "Vyxal bad because bad" is valid and irrefutable :P

user

@exedraj I've added a few more :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing El Duderino hates people with tree nut allergies confirmed

PyGamer0

14:21

@Dudecoinheringaahing related xkcd

Dude coinheringaahing

I've got an idea for a answer-chaining challenge where the difficulty will ramp up insanely quickly (the second answer should be very hard).I have an easier version in mind that could work tho. Can answer-chaining challenges be too hard?

user

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What is it?

Dude coinheringaahing

That's a kinda vague question yeah :P I'll post into the sandbox and include details for the easier version

PyGamer0

> On 28 July 2021, Never Gonna Give You Up hit 1 billion views on YouTube.

pog

hyper-neutrino

Jul 28 at 20:27, by hyper-neutrino

1 billion views!!!

you're late to the party :p

Dude coinheringaahing

14:28

Can we say for answer-chaining challenges that "The last answer posted wins", so that the winner never actually is finalised, but there is always a winner at one point?

ruse

Isn't that what some do?

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino ah i got rredd

ruse

Oh, does your challenge not end after a month/two months/whatever?

Dude coinheringaahing

No, new answers can always be posted, but as the difficulty ramps up it's unlikely that they will be

user

You could keep accepting a new answer every time it's posted if it ever happens, I guess

hyper-neutrino

14:30

i think it should be fine; pretty much all code golf challenges never really have a finalized winner anyway

user

^

@hyper-neutrino Although that's more because it's intra-language competition and not inter languasege

Dude coinheringaahing

But even then, there's almost always the possibility of a shorter answer in a given language being posted

ruse

Who upvoted me lol

@Dudecoinheringaahing Right, but you can't accept one answer for every language there

Dude coinheringaahing

Just because my Jelly answer is 6 bytes doesn't mean that a 5 byte or less answer doesn't exist

ruse

Unless, of course, you restrict all answers to a single language

Dude coinheringaahing

14:32

@ruse Yeah, but I'm thinking about a "winner" rather than specifically accepting one

ruse

@Dudecoinheringaahing But even if a 1 byter is posted in Jelly, you can't accept it because there are multiple winners in Python, C, etc. and you'd need to accept them all, which isn't possible

@Dudecoinheringaahing Ah, ok

hyper-neutrino

there technically doesn't actually even need to be a criterion that selects exactly one winner among all solutions

ruse

That could be fun - when someone "challenges" the reigning winner, they have to think up another answer

hyper-neutrino

just an objectively defined scoring criterion to rank submissions

so just "the most recent answer is the current winner" is quite objective and even manages to select exactly one winner, and it doesn't matter that it's never finalized because most criteria aren't :p

PyGamer0

in Vyxal, 2 mins ago, by PyGamer0

hi i am a person who is the only one of our class will be the winner of butter and jelly hyper and you will have the opportunity to meet you. (text in bold is the input)

Dude coinheringaahing

14:34

"First valid answer" is a criteria used in programming-puzzles often, why not "Last valid answer"? :P

Aaron Miller

Hey, thanks Hyper!

user

@AaronMiller Home sweet home

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Stronger and stronger radiation This is a answer-chaining challenge where answers create successively more radiation-hardened programs. The first answer will be a program that is at least 2 bytes long that outputs 1, with an optional trailing newline, and nothing else. However, when any single ch...

Dude coinheringaahing

@user ^

user

Oh wow, that is hard

I think a better version might be "For every x in [0..n-2] there should exist x characters, which, when removed, make the program output n-x+2 (idk about the exact numnbers there but u iknow what i mean)

Dude coinheringaahing

14:44

So the same thing but rather than all removals working, any removal working (for a given number of characters)?

user

Yeah

There just needs to be one possible removal

Dude coinheringaahing

Just hit -100, wow

@user That does make it easier, but I'm not sure if I like it

user

-101 :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing Yeah, it's significantly different/easier from/than yours

Dude coinheringaahing

@Dudecoinheringaahing My comment on that now has more upvotes than any answer I've posted to the network bar one

Adám

16:13

@Dudecoinheringaahing Thank you for drawing my attention to it. I've updated my post.

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Q: I want the details of my Google meetings through fetch(

I want to use the fetch() in JavaScript and then convert it to .JSON method So I am not able to find any API on Google Meet So I want any suggestions to make this happen in nodejs or JavaScript

javascript

Dude coinheringaahing

Wow, that hit the review queues faster than it hit Active

@NewPosts There are less than 200 (displayed) characters in that, just it uses code formatting, bold *and italics :P

pxeger

how do these people even manage to accidentally post these questions here?

Dude coinheringaahing

In <3 minutes: 5 close votes, 3 downvotes and 2 delete votes :P

hyper-neutrino

i still do not understand people who post help questions here when they have literally had activity on SO before

Dude coinheringaahing

16:19

> Now I am able to create my bot

Source. Hmmm

Adám

Well, our banner does say "& coding challenges", even though posts about code that was challenging to the author is off-topic.

For the record, I protested against that subtitle when were were debating it.

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Q: Eric Angelini's "1995" puzzle

The following puzzle was invented by Eric Angelini in September 2007. As mentioned in A131744 : the sequence is defined by the property that if one writes the English names for the entries, replaces each letter with its rank in the alphabet and calculates the absolute values of the differences, ...

code-golf sequence

Dude coinheringaahing

@Adám I've always prefered "coding competitions" (and I disliked "Programming Puzzles" for the same reason), as it's a lot less ambiguous

rak1507

I've always very much disliked anything that can even give the impression CGCC is a place to ask about competitive programming problems (as it 100% is not)

pxeger

I really don't see why we needed anything else than Code Golf. It's much better for the site title to under-represent what is allowed than over-represent

rak1507

16:25

^

Dude coinheringaahing

People disliked that other challenge types weren't represented

hyper-neutrino

i doubt just "code golf" as a name would really do much to address the issue of people not being able to use their eyes

Dude coinheringaahing

For example, if you go to most sites that call themselves some form of "Code Golf", they typically don't allow non-code-golf challenges

hyper-neutrino

i mean, people ask SO questions on MSE all the time... like, how??

Adám

Code Golf & coding contests

Dude coinheringaahing

16:27

@hyper-neutrino That's how I'm ~70 flags away from Marshal on MSE :P

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino hmm no, I think the "challenges" confusion is often caused by a mistranslation by non-native English speakers, not by a failure to use the eyes

hyper-neutrino

well we do have like 13 help screens to try to stop people

such as "Questions about help with general programming-related issues are off-topic here and will be closed." in the intrusive popup which is in full bold

pxeger

the help center is too hard to find

hyper-neutrino

well sure that's why we made a popup that shoves itself in your face when you try to ask a question even if you don't look around the page

Dude coinheringaahing

"Hey you! Have you seen all the various different signposts that indicate that we aren't for coding help? Do you still want to post your question asking what a variable is? Well, what if we changed the name of the site slightly?"

hyper-neutrino

16:31

we have a tour and help center which it's understandable if people don't want to read those, a box in the top right that might go unnoticed too easily, and sidebar tips when asking a question, but even if you don't look for those, we also shove a dialog box in your face with full bold text telling you not to ask programming help questions

i don't think removing the small subtitle on our site would fix this; i think we just accept the reality that every site gets off-topic questions from people who found the wrong site, and just close them and move on

Dude coinheringaahing

Darn, I forgot to add the mods' meta user feeds to my spying room :P

hyper-neutrino

want me to re-RO you? :p

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah, the room is directionless without me :P

Added, now for the Feeds to spend 30 minutes catching up :P

hyper-neutrino

wait, why six feeds lol

Dude coinheringaahing

I made a couple of mistakes :P First, I made WW's meta ones as a ticker feed, then realised I had https://codegolf.meta,stackexchange.com/users/56656 (notice the comma)

@SandboxPosts Changed away from answer chaining, any feedback?

pxeger

17:04

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A: Magic wand time - what does your community need? (More questions from the Community VP)

Force new users to take a quiz Yes, this is fairly radical. But many sites get so many off-topic questions that it's taking the most time of all the moderation tasks. Much of that can be prevented, since many people simply didn't know their question would be ill-received. All users that are new t...

I've had a similar radical idea in the past (yours seems much more sensible though): include a stupid rule like "your post must start or end with a word not containing the letter E, and contain at least one ampersand" which is just to ensure that all posters have read the rules

Dude coinheringaahing

@pxeger I think "Your post body must begin with " would be a better one :P

Q: When you go to codegolf.stackexchange.com/users, what time frame and tab is it on by default?

hyper-neutrino

rep by quarter

Adám

same

Dude coinheringaahing

I could've sworn it was defaulting to rep by month a couple of weeks ago

user

17:26

> You’ll understand how fast k9 can be in processing and analyzing data and how terse code is less likely to contain errors.

X

rak1507

@user interesting arraycast episode about that

ep 1 I think

user

I think it totally depends on the programmer though

rak1507

yeah maybe

user

If someone tries to get terser code by using a different algorithm that's slower or doesn't cover all edge cases, it's just going to be worse

rak1507

oh yeah definitely

user

17:30

Pornography is just as bad as 10 files of Java boilerplate :P

rak1507

but if you have
max = -1
for i in nums:
if i < max:
max = i
return max

that's a lot harder to find bugs in than
⌊/nums
(it's a lot more obvious that you're doing min not max in the second)

user

True

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Disagree. One creates jobs and the other is Java :P

user

And it's probably a lot easier to work with such languages after a while

@Dudecoinheringaahing lol

@rak1507 That reminds me, I should really watch that podcast

*hear

rak1507

yeah it's pretty good

pxeger

17:34

@user conversely, deleting 10 lines of Java boilerplate is basically pornography

user

How so?

pxeger

Java is bad so it's very satisfying to delete it

user

Ah

pxeger

and pornography is satisfying [citation needed]

user

~~Time to go verify that claim~~

Dude coinheringaahing

17:47

How come SEDE gets a custom (albeit ...odd) 404 page and we don;t :(

user

SEDE is special

Chat also got a custom 404 page

Oneboxing bad: i.sstatic.net/JDgi2.jpg

hyper-neutrino

that's one advantage of chat being archaic - still has some personality from before everything becomes bland

user

Yeah, but that doesn't mean much if its personality involves wearing toe shoes and sipping ketchup

hyper-neutrino

i really wish 404 pages could be community designed cuz even though it's an error page it's not too uncommon to bump into it due to deletion and it can be a nice bit of customization available

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Do you not sip ketchup?

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