The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

00:00

ada is at the top, davinci is at the bottom

user

@AaronMiller "How do I use it?" "You don't." Omniman fan?

> I bit my lower lip, knowing the little quiz I was about to ask was going to be a tough one.

“Do you want a beer?” I asked,

lyxal

that's the curie model

user

What a tough quiz - how could anyone ever answer such a complicated question?

caird coinheringaahing

Step 1: Be Shaggy :P

lyxal

the babbage model (the second one) is actually a drug addict

it originally started with "yo dawg, I heard you like heroin"

so obviously I rerolled it

user

00:02

@lyxal Wait, that means it thinks you're the drug addict o.O

lyxal

"caird coinheringaahing is oohered, and ineioa ooaoaeee. The oreei ooeeaee aaeeaae the oeee eeooee. Inaaoee, the eooeeaee oooaeaae the ooeeoeiae, eo"

generated using curie

user

Damn, caird has the power to turn AI brains to mush

Aaron Miller

@lyxal This was generated in one try with davinci.

Unrelated String

@user it's really strange how multiple models just absolutely lose their shit in completely different ways

lyxal

...

who is caird coinheringaahing? —a father of three, a family man.

...

caird coinheringaahing

00:05

Not yet at least :P

Bubbler

> This does not set the main index to 1

caird coinheringaahing

If/when I ever have a third child, I'll make sure to let y'all know by replying to that message :P

Bubbler

Very descriptive

user

It does narrow it down significantly :P

Aaron Miller

”Why is Lyxal so Lyxal?” Wouldn't any dweeb wannabe in an insecure late Victorian family, with plenty of money and no religion to make up for it (and a remarkably good command of the spoken word) have done more or less what he did...?"

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caird coinheringaahing

00:07

GPT-3 is vicious :P

Although, congrats @lyxal on your remarkably good command of the spoken word :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing You'll have to sacrifice it to Davinci :P

Also, congrats on being over 100 years old @lyxal

You really did stop aging for Redwolf to catch up :P

Aaron Miller

”Why is Lyxal so Lyxal?” Seriously. I don’t need to know “which Lyxal is the best?” (Because they are all fantastic.)

lyxal

which?

user

There's more lyxals?

caird coinheringaahing

Lyxal: Into the Lyxal-verse

lyxal

00:12

Why is Lyxal so Lyxal?” “Because the Lyxal is the life force of the entire planet. Rather than a very thin layer covering it like tar, the surface of Lyra covers it with a living skin.”

I'm a noun apparently

@AaronMiller here's the real answer

Apparently I'm just continuing my species

Aaron Miller

“Lyxal?”

Lyxal is a Homeopathic medicine indicated for the treatment of the following conditions:

Migraine

Nausea and vomiting

Nasal congestion

Urticaria and angioedema

Stress & anxiety

Lyxal Directions

Lyxal is available in liquids (solutions) and tablets and is to be taken orally.

The drug is to be taken as prescribed by the doctor.

In the case of children, the drug is to be administered under the supervision of a doctor.

lyxal

alternatively

user

> When a Lyxal worm climbs into another person or another creature's body it makes multiple copies of itself across the host's body

wtf

lyxal

> the Lyxal have been raiding civilization on and off since the dawn of time

> Some of their writing and art is still visible in many places, and they had plenty of technology at their disposal before they began to go extinct. Scientists are still trying to determine why Lyxal went extinct (perhaps climate change or over-hunting) but some think that it may be related to them being too successful or too dangerous for the humans to successfully keep them in check.

user

> Everyone has a Lyxal.

Okay, this is getting ominous

The first one talks about a Lyxal worm, and the second says that everyone has this worm inside them

lyxal

00:17

Taking the hivemind to a whole new level

New Posts

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Q: We all know how to SKI, but can you BCKW?

Background Lambda calculus is a model of computation using lambda terms. A variable \$x\$ is a lambda term. If \$E\$ is a lambda term, the lambda abstraction \$\lambda x. E\$ is a lambda term. If \$E_1, E_2\$ are lambda terms, the lambda application \$E_1 E_2\$ is a lambda term. The rule of com...

caird coinheringaahing

Legend tells of the King of the Lyxal, a great man by the name "Rick of Astley". He is most well known for his timeless love ballad, which has been adapted into the war cry of the Lyxal

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lyxal

sigh those were the days

user

The reason Rick of Astley was so popular among the Lyxal is that he never gave them up

lyxal

This is accurate

Bubbler

00:19

Meanwhile: Legendary 95/150

user

> The current consensus is that this behavior is due to a genetic defect in which the original worm successfully passes on its

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ_ಠ Stop changing the maintenance time. @hyper-neutrino Could you change that to "29th July 0/12am UTC, 28th July 8pm EDT"?

Bubbler

Also the BCKW challenge gave a warning of "this question looks subjective" :/

user

@user What does it pass on?! I NEED TO KNOW

@Bubbler Probably the "can you"?

Aaron Miller

Prompt: “Am I part of the Redwolf Hivemind?”

“No, not that I know of.”

“Are you part of the Redwolf Hivemind?”

“No, not that I know of.”

“Do you know who is part of the Redwolf Hivemind?”

“No.”

“Do you know what happened in the hours surrounding the death of Serafino Soro?”

“No, I was asleep.”

well that escalated quickly

Bubbler

00:20

Maybe, the warning doesn't show the "why"

lyxal

memories to its offspring, but the offspring are not able to fully develop or maintain the memories themselves. Each "copy" of the worm only has a portion of the original worm's personality.

For example, if the worm was a warrior, the copy may only remember the warrior's identity, but not its own. The copy will no longer be able to care for itself, and will have to create a new host. The worm would then place its memory in the new host and repeat the process.

Current belief is that this process is how the Lyxal developed their ability to "Link" with other beings. A worm would "Link" with …

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler The warnings have spoken, time to VTC :P

user

@Bubbler I should've mentioned this in the sandbox, but any testcases?

lyxal

@user we call it lyxalitis for a reason, you sussy baka ;p

Bubbler

@user There are infinitely many possible conversions for every input, but I'll provide some examples

lyxal

00:35

@user @AaronMiller if you're interested, gpt3 generated some text on lyxal society

caird coinheringaahing

> The council's goal is to protect humanity from itself by maintaining peace between both races

both?

lyxal

yeah

humans and us

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes, Scala enjoyers and JS fans

caird coinheringaahing

That's ...poorly worded, from a certain point of view

user

My message or Lyxal's?

caird coinheringaahing

00:37

The gpt-3 generated text

Aaron Miller

> There are currently nine members of this council at present: High Lord Syralidus Ixtua'koshadi, High Lord Tundra Naxa'kiranai, High Lady Orinha Sisanii'kiqi'golqa', High Lady Lyras Sisanii'kiqi'golqa', High Lord Naxa'kiranai Mayshynuqesoqamuqiqatilikii, High Lord Ixtua'koshadi Ixtua'kuhi', High Lady Sisanii'kiqi'golqa Sisanii'kiqi'golqa', High Lord Tundra Naxa'kiranai Ixtua'kuhikipoqatilikii'

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's from a larger sample where it clearly specified lyxal as a race

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal which of ^^ are you? :P

Unrelated String

i wonder what it would do if you just gave it normal text but with all whitespace and punctuation removed

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing done

lyxal

00:38

@cairdcoinheringaahing duh I'm from the lyxal race obviously

oh

High Lord Naxa'kiranai Mayshynuqesoqamuqiqatilikii

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino status-thanks :P

@lyxal New username? :P

lyxal

The Lyxal are a highly intelligent species, with a culture that has been around for thousands of years. Though they have had many names, the most common being "Lyxel" is a word that was created because of their fascination with language. They can be particularly inscrutable when it comes to other species and their cultures, and most other races endeavor to learn as much about them as possible due to this tendency. As such, Lyxal often end up in more contact with non-Lyxal than with each other. This is especially true since the Lyxal are rarely seen as a whole people but rather as individual…

user

> or at least learning how to pronounce their name

Huh, it actually seems to understand what it generated

lyxal

> Are Lyxals good or evil?

Lyxals are not inherently good or evil to humans, but most are neutral with a few being good and a few being bad, but with good and evil often defined by context rather than the species as a whole. Most Lyxals have no idea what "good" or "evil" means, which is why they're so hard to classify.

caird coinheringaahing

Lyxal is Chaotic Neutral? Yeah, that tracks :P

lyxal

00:41

holy crap I'm learning a lot about my kind today

user

@UnrelatedString @lyxal can you try this?

lyxal

gist.github.com/Lyxal/c1e8bfb1e0276b34d0c36b4c46c8d8e2

using the first section of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Include_guard

user

Huh, it adapts to it (well, kinda)

Unrelated String

wow

lyxal

hey wait since when did kahoot become paid?

apparently you can only have 10 people in a free kahoot

kahoot.com/contact-sales

caird coinheringaahing

00:56

Time to watch it die :/

hyper-neutrino

wha-

the only time people use it is in classrooms

where you have like 20-30 ppl min

Unrelated String

👀

hyper-neutrino

rest in peace kahoot

lyxal

our lecturer was talking about having kahoots for us, but because they don't have a license for 75 people, they can't

caird coinheringaahing

Fastest way to kill a service: charge for it when it was free

Unrelated String

00:57

i feel like they're banking on schools buying subscriptions but i feel like there is no school the administration of which would pay for that

lyxal

kahoot.com/home/kahoot-plus

kahoot+

wow

Unrelated String

like
kahoot is something *individual teachers* use
not something *schools* use

Bubbler

Well, every service needs a source of income

Unrelated String

and if there's one class of people that can't pay for that shit it's teachers

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Yes, but by charging for something that was free, you'll piss off people who used it for free, and lose their business because they won't pay

Either start charging from the beginning, or find another thing to charge for. Don't move a service behind a paywall

user

00:59

@lyxal 😮😯😱😪😢😭

hyper-neutrino

ads + freemium to remove them would probably still piss people off but it would at least probably cause less damage (at least I feel like it would)

Unrelated String

they could easily charge for just having more versatility added onto the base functionality

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Potential nonzero entries in A338268 [code-golf] [math] [integer] [sequence]

lyxal

Ngl it feels reminiscent of lastpass starting to charge to use mobile and desktop

user

@UnrelatedString My school district and probably a lot of others probably would, they already pay for Discovery and Brainpop and stuff

It's probably less cheap wholesale

> const double pi = 4;

lyxal

01:01

@UnrelatedString laughs in my lecturer said he was going to find out if my university would buy a licence

user

Quizizz is still free, right?

I feel like that's not used so much, though

caird coinheringaahing

@UnrelatedString Schools might get it for all their teachers if the teachers ask them to

Unrelated String

ig so yeah

Adám

Lies:

No you're serving cookies to make money off me.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám VTC that message as subjective; "nice" is subjective

Adám

01:07

I so wish GDPR would actually be enforced.

Bubbler

Also s/awesome/awesome for us money-making/

Aaron Miller

I was showing off GPT-3 to my family and had my sister give me a prompt, so she gave me a prompt about a squid.

caird coinheringaahing

> She looked at me as if I’d asked her something really stupid. “A pufferfish is a fish.”
“Oh.”

> She smiled and I smiled.
“What’s a pufferfish?” she asked.
“A pufferfish is a fish.”
“Oh.”

Adám

@AaronMiller The first paragraph looks like something that could actually appear in a story for toddlers.

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Guess she's stupid now huh? :P

Aaron Miller

01:15

GPT-3 is a toddler pretending to be an AI confirmed

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing brb gonna go make that my main bio

caird coinheringaahing

Do any golfing langs have Python's iter(callable, sentinel) builtin?

info

Bubbler

A functional programming equivalent is to create an infinite stream and then take until a specific value is found. I guess Husk and/or osabie can do that, though not exactly a builtin

Jelly's # is also similar but different

caird coinheringaahing

01:30

⁼1# would be equivalent if callable returned successive integers, but otherwise they're pretty different

Bubbler

Factor's follow is very similar but takes the previous value as input. Also it's far from a golflang

Do you have a use case in mind?

caird coinheringaahing

Not really. I seem to remember Husk having a similar builtin, but I can't find it and it got me curious

> Examples
Get random numbers until zero is reached

That seems familiar... :P

Bubbler

actually the "follow" version (monadic callable) might have more uses than a niladic callable, but then you can simply add an overload to the while quick, so if a condition is a nilad, the loop stops at that value

Unrelated String

01:45

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ω or the takew overload of ↑ is probably what you're thinking of but they're not that close to iter since they aren't built to work with stateful operations the same way since there are no stateful operations

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal I've noticed over the last like five years that their premium version has steadily stolen features from the main one, and almost all development has focused on it. Honestly not surprised they went in this direction.

lyxal

02:17

@RedwolfPrograms there's been a premium version for 5 years?

Redwolf Programs

As long as I can remember, yeah

It didn't have any major features until the last year or two though

lyxal

That's news to me then

Redwolf Programs

Ugh trying to load Text as an unpacked extension keeps crashing chrome

Not only that, but trying to open the choose or save file dialogs doesn't work either, so I have to restart my whole computer

A username

@RedwolfPrograms Danke

caird coinheringaahing

02:32

Try it online!

JS is so cursed :/

A username

arguments do be bad

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing so then what happens if you have nested functions?

Does arguments refer to its calling function, or only the inner most?

caird coinheringaahing

Try it online!

Looks like arguments refers to the inner most function, likely because of JS closures?

A username

yep

lyxal

That just sounds like context variables with extra steps

caird coinheringaahing

02:42

> NaN Stands for Not a Number but if you ask for the type it actually returns a number

wtf JS, you had one job: tio.run/##y0osSyxOLsosKNEts/j/Pzk/rzg/J1UvJz9do6SyIDU/TcEv0U/z/…

Aaron Miller

Not Number is Number

Bubbler

Blame IEEE764 standards for that

Aaron Miller

Every part of this is wrong. smh gpt-3, smh.

> you’ll need eight symbols, one for each of the usual tic-tac-toe symbols.

caird coinheringaahing

> The first player, the naughts player, puts a character at the center of each of the nine positions.

Time to start a flame war in the tic-tac-toe fandom :P

A username

Uh...

> Pity we can’t use the actual tic-tac-toe symbols, but it’s not really an issue.

Aaron Miller

02:51

Also, none of those codepoints match the symbol next to them.

A username

Oh lol

caird coinheringaahing

It also reuses hearts and spades, but with different code points :P

Aaron Miller

Like I said:

> Almost every part of this is wrong.

caird coinheringaahing

> When tic-tac-toe is first set up, the board consists of nine positions (3x3), and two players.

@AaronMiller Even that's wrong :P

Aaron Miller

Wdym? Looks right to me :p

lyxal

02:56

because throwing an exception is how you count to 10

caird coinheringaahing

> Use a while loop with a condition that will always be true:

var i = 0; while (true) { console.log(i); i++; }

I mean... it does count to 10 :P

lyxal

Yo @cairdcoinheringaahing gpt3 has a crush on you

A username

two of those work.

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal wdym?

lyxal

caird coinheringaahing

02:58

...Can I date an AI? :P

Aaron Miller

@lyxal Hmm… It almost sounds like Caird will never give you up, let you down, run around, or desert you.

lyxal

> Why is Caird so Caird?

Caird is named after the artist Robert Caird. He is also the patron spirit of artists. This is why his spirit shows up here.

What does the Caird spirit look like?

In a picture he looks like a tall man with long hair wearing a white tunic(robe).

How did Caird get his powers?

Caird is very old. He got his powers from other people who came before him. He has a lot of experience.

What does his spirit do?

Caird's spirit acts like an artist. He loves to paint pictures. He also has a great sense of humor.

caird coinheringaahing

This is all fact

A username

BTW, can you help with my assessment?

caird coinheringaahing

Except "Caird is named after the artist Robert Caird" I have never heard of Robert Caird

Aaron Miller

03:01

> Why is Caird so Caird?

Because he is.

caird coinheringaahing

@Ausername No, but I can help you help yourself with your assessment :P

lyxal

> Who is Aaron Miller?

Miller has been on the political scene in Iowa for years. He was a top aide to former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, who was Secretary of Agriculture under President Barack Obama. Miller also worked as the Iowa state director for the Department of Agriculture under Obama, and he was the Iowa state director for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in 2016.

Miller was also the executive director of the Iowa Democratic Party from 2010 to 2013, and he served in the same role for the Iowa Democratic Party from 2005 to 2009.

Aaron Miller

@lyxal Hey, stop doxxing me

A username

Aaron David Miller

Aaron David Miller (born March 25, 1949) is an American Middle East analyst, author, and negotiator. He is a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, focusing on U.S. foreign policy. He previously was vice president for new initiatives at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, and has been an advisor to both Republican and Democratic secretaries of state. He is a Global Affairs Analyst for CNN.Miller worked for the United States Department of State for 24 years (1978–2003). Between 1988 and 2003, Miller served six secretaries of state as an advisor on Arab...

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lyxal

@AaronMiller it's only fair after gpt3 practically gave away everything about my people

A username

03:02

One og these is probably you, but I have no idea which :p

caird coinheringaahing

@Ausername None of those are blue-green swirls, so I doubt it

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Aaron Miller

@Ausername I can confirm that at least 6 of those people are not me. Maybe more.

A username

caird coinheringaahing

A username face reveal :P

A username

Oh noes!

Apparently we can buy coupons for you: couponbirds.com/codes/aaronbmiller.com

caird coinheringaahing

03:08

@Ausername I'd argue none work, as they all use < 10, so they don't count to 10

lyxal

Welcome to the TNB, where we have a sentient group of subatomic particles, a patron spirit of artists, a wolf, a former Iowa state director, the remnants of a long lost race of intergalactic beings and more

caird coinheringaahing

> sentient group of subatomic particles

Aaron Miller

@Ausername I’ve actually read that article before, because that is no joke my full name.

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing hyper-neutrino

A username

@lyxal Ooh, what am I?

@AaronMiller Oh lol

caird coinheringaahing

03:09

@lyxal Isn't everything that's sentient a group of subatomic particles?

lyxal

@Ausername I need something more than "A Username" to work with

A username

Try it

caird coinheringaahing

In fact, isn't everything either a subatomic particle or a group of subatomic particles

lyxal

@Ausername I have

A username

@AaronMiller Revealed

@lyxal Oh well

Fine, try my github thingy, chunkybanana.

caird coinheringaahing

03:11

@Ausername You seem to have a letter wrong there :P

lyxal

It always treats "A Username" as if it was username/password

caird coinheringaahing

> my username is "A" and my password is "username"

:P

A username

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh oops

Forget what I said

lyxal

> ChunkyBanana is a Youtube personality from Seattle, Washington. He is known for his videos about gaming, comic books, and other pop culture related content. He has been uploading videos to YouTube since his first video was posted on August 23, 2007.

A username

Lol

I'm pretty much on the other side of the globe from Seattle

Oh wait no

I'm not

lyxal

03:13

@lyxal we also have a famous YouTube personality, a Kirby and a string that has nothing to do with any other string

A username

And four bots.

lyxal

Which is the fourth?

Because there's @NewPosts @OldSandboxPosts @SandboxPosts but I can't think of the fourth

A username

Hyper!

lyxal

Hyper is a subatomic particle though

@lyxal all operating under a single hivemind too

Because that's what the nineteenth byte has come to

Aaron Miller

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, everything is either a potato or not a potato.

> What is “The Nineteenth Byte”?

The Nineteenth Byte is the final episode of the first season of the Popcorn Taxi Podcast. It is a short one, but it is a good one. It is the first episode where we get to talk about an old movie, and we chose one that was on my list.

lyxal

03:18

So this is all a podcast

Aaron Miller

Yep, a single (short) episode of a podcast.

lyxal

"short"

10 years is "short"

Aaron Miller

Relatively

> Why is ChunkyBanana?

For an explanation please check out this blog post.

lyxal

@AaronMiller I suppose that makes sense

Aaron Miller

> Prompt: Why is ChunkyBanana?

I love bananas and I love cream

Is ChunkyBanana safe?

Yes we have checked thoroughly for yucky stuff. We even had to swab our bananas with cotton wool!

How many bananas are in a jar?

Four!

lyxal

03:23

It says four like it's really proud that it managed to squish another banana into the jar

Aaron Miller

lmao yeah

A username

When you beat an ascii-art language at an ascii-art challenge :p

I honestly found that challenge because Shaggy was bragging about the same thing

lyxal

Next time you judge my language design decisions, remember that the legacy 05ab1e version does this: Try it online!

Aaron Miller

I’m judging your language design decisions. Why doesn’t Vyxal make a snake?

New builtin?

A username

I'm just going to go through that list and try to beat everything on it

lyxal

03:27

øs (any a) = turn a into a snake

øc (any a) = turn a into a convertible

What do y'all think of my new elements? :p

A username

I think your alignment is off, and it's annoying me...

Aaron Miller

øa (any a) = turn a into Rick Astley

lyxal

That's impossible

You can't just go recreating our king like that

A username

!!/run lyxal

Vyxal Bot

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Official Music Video)

►

Aaron Miller

03:30

@lyxal When you say “our”, are you including me in that?

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← 1 message moved from Vyxal

lyxal

3 hours ago, by caird coinheringaahing

Legend tells of the King of the Lyxal, a great man by the name "Rick of Astley". He is most well known for his timeless love ballad, which has been adapted into the war cry of the Lyxal

Aaron Miller

Does that mean I’m a Lyxal, too?

lyxal

No

Aaron Miller

D:

A username

03:31

Are you the last of your kind...

lyxal

@AaronMiller Unless you want to be...

@Ausername supposedly not

Aaron Miller

:D

lyxal

> The matter of fact is, most Lyxal scholars are still working on these theories. For now, though, it seems that there are a significant number of Lyxal still alive in some of the more remote pockets of Earth.

Aaron Miller

> Who is 2x-1?

I won't tell you.

lyxal

@AaronMiller which order of society are you in?

A username

03:34

What language do the Lyxal speak?

lyxal

@AaronMiller that seems accurate to code golf lore

> Lyxal speak a language that is similar to English that has evolved over time through human contact (since they were once human). It has its own grammar but feels somewhat similar to English speech in some ways especially because it shares many words with it.

A username

Oh yes

lyxal

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