The Nineteenth Byte

caird coinheringaahing

14:08

@hyper-neutrino I regret giving anyone the link to stalker :P

hyper-neutrino

lol

i used to have it but i forgot to reinstall it many years ago

caird coinheringaahing

If both you and WW have it, there'll never be anything for anyone else to review :P

Redwolf Programs

I'm making a better review stalker lol

I'll outclass you all with my superior reviewmanship

("Better" in the sense of "shorter", as they are synonymous here :p)

caird coinheringaahing

I mentioned it earlier, but I'm now the only user on the site with the Research Assistant badge on meta :D

user41805

@WheatWizard i'm struggling understanding how cell 2's limsup is 1 at w^2. at every w×n cell 2 is 0, so why isn't cell 2 also 0 at w×w?

Wheat Wizard

14:16

Because w*w is not the limp sup of w*n, it is the limsup of w*n+m, and for any w*n+m I can find a later time at which the cell is on (specifically w*(n+1)+2).

(I mean technically w*w is the limsup of w*n, but it is not defined to be that.)

EnderShadow8

@RedwolfPrograms I'm a bit late, but my take on this:

There needs to be a sufficiently low barrier for entry to get as many submissions as possible

Otherwise the effort required is just wasted since there just isn't enough variety to make the game interesting

Redwolf Programs

Totally, I agree with that. I think your KotH was good, I just don't think we need five more of them :p

EnderShadow8

Mine was mainly attractive because of xkcd ngl

Unrelated String

yeah

Redwolf Programs

Your KotH attracted a ton of people to the site, and for that reason it's good

caird coinheringaahing

14:20

Yeah. TBH it was pretty similar to Cooperative Counting, but it outscored it by 4x

Redwolf Programs

(Plus it's good anyway)

Wheat Wizard

@user41805 Does that clarify? I think this bit is certainly a little counter intuitive.

Redwolf Programs

I think there have and can be a bit more interesting KotHs, but that doesn't make this one anywhere near bad by any means. I just don't want this to become what KotH is.

hyper-neutrino

I think a low skill floor is good to attract less experienced people, but too many will either bore users or give them the wrong impression of CGCC

EnderShadow8

I'm no expert in psychology but you gotta have some sort of hook to get people interested at a glance

caird coinheringaahing

14:22

@EnderShadow8 It generated 25 First Posts review events, FYI :P

Redwolf Programs

@EnderShadow8 You definitely got the formula right there :p

EnderShadow8

if simply making a mediocre submission is too much effort no one will put in effort for a high quality submission

caird coinheringaahing

It would've been 30, but HN got to 5 of them :P

4

hyper-neutrino

sowwy :)

Didn't this happen with code-trolling too? like it drew a bunch of people to our site but we banished it because it was getting out of hand?

user

Why can't you two share with the rest of us non-stalkers?

Redwolf Programs

14:23

@EnderShadow8 I don't think a low entry barrier and a high skill ceiling are mutually exclusive

Unrelated String

yeah

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Kind of (lemme just type out a long history message)

Redwolf Programs

Because of the two different scores (security and game theory), there is a fairly good skill ceiling. I'm just worried about other KotHs taking the simplicity, but leaving behind the interesting title and skill ceiling.

Unrelated String

eh

the two scores thing did not stay interesting for long because accounting for it was fairly simple mathematically

EnderShadow8

@RedwolfPrograms That's the hard part

Redwolf Programs

14:26

@UnrelatedString There were still some fairly complicated bots though, not sure if it was the two scores or not

Unrelated String

it all came down to predicting averages which is interesting but doesn't have that much... dimensionality to it

user41805

@WheatWizard still working through it, i might get back later

EnderShadow8

I have to say, that's true. The formula was present in about every second bot

caird coinheringaahing

Code trolling attracted a lot of low quality questions that were basically, "do X but trolling", rather than high quality questions. This time around, we can close any very similar koths as dupes, and, while they won't be new, they'll still be high-quality (or at least, not low quality if they want to stay open). Code trolling exploded overnight (like ~30 questions in a week or something crazy), this time around the bar for entry is high enough (writing a controller) that I doubt that'll happen

Unrelated String

@EnderShadow8 and one bot without the formula still placed 9th ;)

Wheat Wizard

14:27

Ok yeah, if you need like more clarification though, just let me know.

EnderShadow8

The Rick Roll bot was pure genius

caird coinheringaahing

@user It's not our fault :P

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, I see. yeah "code golf" SE becoming code trolling is definitely not good for the site :p okay I see

Redwolf Programs

Regardless of the KotH's skill ceiling, it seems a lot of people had fun with it, and some of the best answers were by new users. I think that counts as a good challenge by most metrics you can think of :p

Unrelated String

bandwagon wasn't even a remotely serious submission and i recall it did pretty damn poorly when i was getting the number for averageaverageaverage

hyper-neutrino

14:30

every once in a while a simple challenge to pull in new users is definitely good but too many makes it boring :P especially if it's the same type of simple approach

EnderShadow8

Now that I've set a high standard for myself, I doubt I'll ever live up to it

I'll try

Unrelated String

yeah

Redwolf Programs

It's one of the highest voted questions we've had in like a year IIRC

caird coinheringaahing

@EnderShadow8 Once you write a popular challenge, it takes ages to write another one :P

EnderShadow8

thank xkcd, not me

@cairdcoinheringaahing I can imagine

hyper-neutrino

14:31

it's the second most in the past 365 days

the first is this

EnderShadow8

In the meantime I'll keep throwing ideas into the sandbox until something else gets upvoted

Razetime

who has the most challenges written?

caird coinheringaahing

It's the highest voted in 2021

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cleaning KoTH Clean up a 50x75 room with a JSbot before there is too much junk! The Challenge A 50x75 room is cluttered 375 items, each taking up 1 cell of space. Create a JSbot that takes an array as an input to clean up the room. If the bot is on a cell with junk in it, the junk is automaticall...

hyper-neutrino

search query

caird coinheringaahing

14:32

Calvin's Hobbies, United States

86.4k 45 313 553

Redwolf Programs

I'm also glad this has drawn some attention to KotHs in general

Razetime

Calvin's Hobbies?

Redwolf Programs

(As NSP just helpfully pointed out)

caird coinheringaahing

Calvin has two Socratic badges, and is 78% of the way towards 3

pxeger

wow

hyper-neutrino

14:33

wait socratic can be earned multiple times???

caird coinheringaahing

Yep

hyper-neutrino

also i now have 69/100 on socratic

Razetime

calvin prolly the only person in CGCC to earn most of their rep from questions

EnderShadow8

oh god another one

caird coinheringaahing

He also invented answer-chaining, posted the Showcase and has 17 Great Question badges

Wheat Wizard

14:34

Oh I am really close to a second socratic.

Razetime

meanwhile, he has a total of 26 answers

Wheat Wizard

@Razetime I know that most of my rep is from questions by a wide margin.

caird coinheringaahing

@Razetime Calvin's rep almost doubled overnight when they changed question rep to +10

hyper-neutrino

i only have 97 questions, not even enough to get socratic if all of them were well received and none on the same day

Razetime

@WheatWizard yeah but you posted a lot more answers lool

EnderShadow8

14:35

writing questions and answering questions are two different skills

Wezl

has neither

Redwolf Programs

I've written or rewritten like half of the current KotH wiki lol

caird coinheringaahing

I've approved like half of the current KotH wiki :P

hyper-neutrino

imagine being known for something on the site. i have no specializations on this site at all :p

Wheat Wizard

You are like the only mod that does stuff.

EnderShadow8

14:37

neither, probably cos I joined 2 weeks ago

caird coinheringaahing

...

@WheatWizard I was typing that, but it feels weird to see that from another mod

@hyper-neutrino You're definitely becoming the "meta organising" mod :P

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino I'm the zsh guy, and while I like winning in my category every time, I do kind of wish I had someone to play with

hyper-neutrino

I suppose that's true. I seem to have a lot more free time than the other mods :P (or maybe I waste too much time on SE, depends how you see it lol)

Wheat Wizard

I don't have free time, I also live in a time zone that means my free time seems to frequently line up with rather inactive periods on the site.

caird coinheringaahing

Out of interest @WheatWizard, how do you have so many reviews, especially if you don't use something like review stalker?

Wheat Wizard

14:42

Not sure. Part of it is that I have been using the site for a while longer than most people. I also used to just check the page 5 or 6 times a day.

user

They're Wheat Wizard

hyper-neutrino

Has the rate of review queue items gone down since when you first joined the site or has it remained about the same?

Razetime

@hyper-neutrino excuse me

Wheat Wizard

It's gone down and up.

It's also changed proportions, there are more New User reviews now than LQ reviews and it used to be the other way around.

hyper-neutrino

I see. I haven't really been on top of reviews until recently; it definitely counted pretty heavily against my candidate score and even after becoming a mod I tended to take most actions directly rather than from the review queue

Redwolf Programs

14:48

I just found a trick to make my Generic Review Tool not have to reload the page constantly

This will lead to far greater speeds

hyper-neutrino

is there a websocket

Redwolf Programs

No

Razetime

this is because it's much simpler to act on the frontpage than go to the review queues

hyper-neutrino

definitely. especially since CGCC's review queues are almost always either empty or with only 1 item and so it doesn't give the red circle

Redwolf Programs

I'm basically cheating, and fetching the page, which prevents it from having to run any JS or get images, so it can load the text quickly. I use regexp to parse a bit of the HTML for the lolz, then I can extract all of the necessary information using proper techniques.

caird coinheringaahing

14:50

@hyper-neutrino Only 2 of the 40 points are review related :P

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms lol, nice. :P well looks like i'll need to figure out something to match your speed :P

Redwolf Programs

I'll share the script when it's finished

hyper-neutrino

oh

Redwolf Programs

I'll just intentionally slow it down, to "preserve battery life" ;p

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

once loading the tasks gets too fast it's limited by how fast you can process the review task itself at which point i worry that the speed competition will compromise quality/accuracy. but i trust y'all to focus on actually handling the task appropriately rather than trying to FGITW them

caird coinheringaahing

14:51

Oh, WW just sniped a review from me ಠ_ಠ

Wheat Wizard

Wow with all of this talk about review queues how am I the only one to have done that review in Reopens.

hyper-neutrino

me who didn't even realize there was a task because stalker didn't report it ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

Because my copy of review stalker is broken :/

caird coinheringaahing

@WheatWizard Because when a mod reviews something, it doesn't need anyone else to, and you got to it first :P

hyper-neutrino

does reopen take multiple "leave closed" reviews to dismiss?

Wheat Wizard

14:53

I was just surprised I was first.

hyper-neutrino

i don't know how many reviews each queue requires :p

caird coinheringaahing

IIRC RO and CV take 3 of the same decisions to clear a review, unless a mod steps in

Wheat Wizard

I know late answers always require exactly 1 no matter what.

caird coinheringaahing

FP and SE are 2 and LA and VLQ are 1 IIRC

hyper-neutrino

ah okay

what's the condition to send something to the RO/CV queue, 2 votes?

caird coinheringaahing

14:55

1 vote I believe

Or a close vote flag

Wheat Wizard

Reopen can also be triggered by an edit alone.

hyper-neutrino

then if 3 people vote in favor in the review queue won't that cause it to leave the queue before the action is completed? does it take 3 reviews against the vote to dismiss it

caird coinheringaahing

I suppose if people vote in favour it sticks around for a while to get the last vote or 2, but I don't remember if that's actually what happens or not

hyper-neutrino

lmao, okay so I am supposed to start my job today and i hadn't gotten any information this whole morning, and I just got an email and apparently my hiring manager was told i was starting next week even though i am starting today. wow. for one of my interviews, HR somehow forgot / missed something and the hiring manager didn't send me my interview meeting link either. i'm just getting really unlucky with this whole co-op employment thing

@cairdcoinheringaahing well, it wouldn't make sense for it to get 3 close votes and then just leave the queue so people forget about it and it doesn't get closed :P so i'd assume that's how it works.

Wheat Wizard

What are you working?

hyper-neutrino

14:59

opentext (software dev) for my uni co-op program

Razetime

CMC: Who are the most enigmatic CGCC users?

Redwolf Programs

Don't know if this counts but WW's usernames are pretty enigmatic :p

hyper-neutrino

Razetime

i mean, people who just post answers and never say anything or soemthing like that

pxeger

@Razetime xnor? They're rarely in chat or write comments, and just post an absolute gem of a Python or Haskell answer every now and then

Razetime

15:06

they occasionally post in chat, but yeah, they fit the description

New Main Posts

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Q: Exciting Mario Kart Grand Prix - Minimize the point difference!

Introduction When playing Mario Kart the other day, an interesting question popped up when a Grand Prix with my 2 roommates, 9 AI drivers and myself seemed to be fairly close and therefore exciting until the very end. We asked ourselves: How close can the point difference between first and last p...

code-golf

user

@hyper-neutrino Rei Henigman

@Razetime gnat

Redwolf Programs

How often should my Generic Review Tool update?

What's even the default for review stalker?

caird coinheringaahing

15:22

Once every 60 seconds IIRC

hyper-neutrino

these are the default settings

Redwolf Programs

I'll set it to every 59s then :p

hyper-neutrino

bruh

Redwolf Programs

Okay, decided on 40. It also automatically refreshes it when you focus the page.

Razetime

@user codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/2372/gnat this is a great confusing profile, excellent find

user

15:42

Looks like they're a high rep user on other sites, although those are hidden

Never posted an answer or question, never downvoted

Looks like they do have 4 flags though

caird coinheringaahing

@Razetime Emigna

@Lyxal The Vyxal online interpreter isn't generating the Code Golf submission when I click the button

user

16:01

@cairdcoinheringaahing Does this answer your question? github.com/Lyxal/Vyxal/issues/… :P

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing VTC as dupe of ^ :P

hyper-neutrino

it's because textareas take a value, not innerHTML.

can confirm changing .innerHTML to .value will fix this, and I've submitted a PR

has merge conflicts though

Redwolf Programs

Okay back

leo3065

For this, this is a test run with all of the sub+the example and the baseline I given: https://imgur.com/RmKN6W1
You can see the "return 1" is actually not scoring well, with total points of 1/3 of the highest one

user

@hyper-neutrino Can you submit a new PR then?

hyper-neutrino

16:08

will do, looks like my fork was out of date

Redwolf Programs

hyper-neutrino

how do you update a fork anyway

Redwolf Programs

Quality American education

hyper-neutrino

what class is this

Redwolf Programs

We did it for fun in an unrelated class :p

It's hilarious without context though

caird coinheringaahing

16:09

@NewMainPosts I have both the 2 shortest, and the 2 longest answers to that :P

@RedwolfPrograms Glove, duh

What is catching if not hitting something to be still?

user

@RedwolfPrograms You can hit with anything if you're brave enough

2

@hyper-neutrino idk, make a new branch called hyper-neutrino-patch-1 maybe

Redwolf Programs

Outside of America do people even know stuff about baseball?

hyper-neutrino

i just proposed a change to the repo itself and PRd from that lol

user

@RedwolfPrograms Japan probably

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Yeah, but probably not as much as Americans

hyper-neutrino

16:12

throw ball. stick go whack. ball far = good. run around square. profit

Redwolf Programs

I went to a few baseball games as a kid (and also played tee ball when I was four)

Don't know much about it though

hyper-neutrino

i think i know the rough overview of the rules but probably not some specifics :P

user

We had a unit on baseball in middle school

Razetime

@cairdcoinheringaahing now THIS is the best answer

user

We also had units on cricket and rugby, although the cricket was basically just baseball with tennis racquets, and I suspect the rugby was more football than rugby

@Razetime Wrong, Emigna is emignatic, not enigmatic :P

caird coinheringaahing

16:15

> cricket was basically just baseball with tennis racquets

...Have you ever seen cricket?

user

Yes

My PE teachers had not, unfortunately

Redwolf Programs

If that suspended user keeps leaving and joining, permission to kick them?

caird coinheringaahing

You can't kick suspended users

Redwolf Programs

Wait really?

Razetime

lol Emigna has no traces

caird coinheringaahing

16:16

@RedwolfPrograms Try it

Redwolf Programs

Huh, weird

That is...problematic

Razetime

basically no way to find them anywhere online

user

Online as in other sites?

hyper-neutrino

Not even mods can KM suspended users. There's no way to stop them. Unfortunately you will have to just ignore them.

user

Because I'm sure most users here don't use the same usernames everywhere else

caird coinheringaahing

16:17

11

A: You cannot kick suspended users

If someone gets suspended, kicking them out of the room is almost certainly not going to be enough. In this case, this same user had done the same thing a month ago, at which point I manually increased his suspension to 30 days. Two blatant violations is sufficient; his account has been sown wit...

Razetime

@user no like anywhere in the internet

user

Yeah it's very likely they have a life elsewhere, just under different names

Wezl

local (america) elementary school has cricket team but not baseball XD

user

Wait really?

caird coinheringaahing

Good, accept cricket's superiority :P

Wezl

16:20

...and I played on that team, I accept it

user

People in cricket run way more than people in baseball. Obviously, baseball is for lazy people

@Wezl Did you use tennis racquets, throw your bats to the ground to run, have the pitcher stand between the runner and batsman, and consider it a strike if someone hit the ball backwards?

Because if you didn't, you didn't play real American cricket :P

Wezl

@user lol no

user

Imagine playing cricket like the British

CMP: What's your favorite sport?

hyper-neutrino

~~code golf~~

5

caird coinheringaahing

Skiing (although I climb more)

Redwolf Programs

16:22

Track and field, if that counts :p

hyper-neutrino

Badminton, probably, though I haven't played in a while

Wheat Wizard

I like fencing. Idk if it is my favourite.

Redwolf Programs

I'd probably like skiing but...Texas :p

And my family all hates cold

This winter probably didn't help that either :p

user

No electricity = no phones = family bonding time!

- some Boomer meme

Redwolf Programs

Actually we did have power, since we're near a hospital, but we didn't have water for a week :p

Lots of fun

And a rat got into our garage and chewed holes in all our water bottles

Uhh...the author of that KotH that got closed edited in a message telling people to submit with pull requests since it was closed

user

16:28

I mean, if they want to run their KotH separately on their GitHub repo, let them

Redwolf Programs

But having them use this as free advertising isn't good, right?

user

ig

Rollback it then?

Redwolf Programs

I just edited it out

Someone VTRd it for some reason

hyper-neutrino

you can VTRO your own posts regardless of rep IIRC? not sure

Redwolf Programs

Oh, not sure

caird coinheringaahing

16:30

Comment

I'm guessing they VTROed?

Redwolf Programs

I think this is also a duplicate of the "lowest unique number" KotH

hyper-neutrino

The thing is the challenge obviously has different mechanisms - if it were the exact same, I'd have deleted it probably. But the point is that the strategy is no different - go for a high number, but don't go too high. Equivalently, go for a low enough number without going too low and losing. The different mechanism doesn't bring a different approach set

in fact, I could copy like half of the solutions from the other question verbatim and the others probably take little editing to be competitive

caird coinheringaahing

Did y'all know you can kick users from the mobile chat UI? :D

I think that's pretty much the only "extended" functionality added to the mobile chat. You can't cancel stars, move messages or put the room into a timeout

hyper-neutrino

I did not. That's surprising; the mobile interface has like almost nothing and usually I have to request desktop site if I can't just go to my computer instead lol

caird coinheringaahing

VTC dupe hammer in 37 seconds :D

Redwolf Programs

16:38

> Somehow, we have a bunch of variations of Fizz Buzz, but no regular one

Citation needed :p

hyper-neutrino

lol.

caird coinheringaahing

TBF they weren't even aware of the fizzbuzz tag, so I can understand them missing the regular challenge

Redwolf Programs

Review Stalker Reloaded is unmaintained according to the SA page

Maybe I'll publish mine there

Problem: I want my userscript to open new tasks in a new tab, but I have no way of preventing it from doing it if the tab is already open.

Razetime

still wondering how to score a text editor KoTH

Redwolf Programs

So if you left your laptop open with a review task there, it would open the queue every minute

And spam you with tabs

Razetime

16:52

@pxeger high five cause you're the other person with a cycle challenge this week

pxeger

high five

hyper-neutrino

yay, the high five cycle has been completed :p

user

NMP doesn't have any butter-related stuff today?

caird coinheringaahing

The new post is spam - it's advertising the necklace, but it's kinda subtle

pxeger

What makes you think it's subtle?

user

16:57

I wouldn't call it subtle

Redwolf Programs

Did I get the 6th spam flag, or did someone kill it the same time I did?

user

Ninja'd

@RedwolfPrograms idk, I flagged it too

pxeger

I flagged it too!

Razetime

caird tends to be the first person to look at spam so they've probably seen worse cases

caird coinheringaahing

It took me a couple of reads to determine if it was spam or just incredibly off-topic

hyper-neutrino

16:58

i did not find that rather subtle. i also did not find that post in time to flag it

user

The very first thing in it is a link to "fashionworld.xyz"

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I was trying to figure out if it was advertising it or just asking about it. The poor phrasing threw me off

hyper-neutrino

Ah. I was >95% certain it was spam from my initial scan due to a couple of keywords / key factors but I took a second read to make sure it was surely spam

user

(I wasn't trying to attack you, just saying that I found it kinda spammy myself)

caird coinheringaahing

@user Oh, I didn't read it as you "attacking" me, I just thought I should explain why I thought it was subtle :)

hyper-neutrino

17:02

well, it's less obvious than 6 paragraphs about casinos and online gambling :P

user

I mean, it's kinda hard to tell if something's spam if you don't understand the language :P

caird coinheringaahing

I need to find a way to make a challenge that is on-topic but looks like Indonesian gambling spam :P

user

Maybe a spam detection thing?

pxeger

some kind of blackjack or slot machine emulator?

user

Or the entire challenge could just be written in another language to bait people into closing it

Although I guess we require challenges to be in English

caird coinheringaahing

17:05

Just write a Bubblegum program that outputs the challenge spec and have the challenge body just be a TIO link :P

Wheat Wizard

35

Q: How do I ask a teller for money at the bank?

I need to go to the bank and withdraw some money. I need to withdraw $30, $22 to pay my roommate for the internet and $8 for laundry. Since neither of these can make change, I need my $30 to be split into two partitions of the two sizes. That means when the teller asks me how I want my $30 I a...

code-golf math

I remember someone commenting that this question looks very off topic at first glance.

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nah, the Meta consensus is that posts shouldn't be too dependent on external links :P

caird coinheringaahing

@WheatWizard That's on my list of "challenges I really want to solve" :P

pxeger

## Milieu
Le « Fizz Buzz » est une programme que les nouveaux programmateurs sont souvent demandé d'écrire.

## Défi
...

user

Tu parles comme une vache espagnole :P

Also, VTC as a duplicate

Anyone know how to deal with these chat flags that just popped up? I had to say I was not sure

caird coinheringaahing

17:11

If you don't know, just say not sure

Those who do know will handle them

user

Aight

Redwolf Programs

Dang, missed them

Figured out an awful workaround for the problem with the tabs

hyper-neutrino

17:31

"not sure" counts for -1/5 flags IIRC

user

Oops

Why, though? Shouldn't 'invalid' do that?

hyper-neutrino

no, invalid is -1 flag

user

Oh ok

hyper-neutrino

basically, valid is +1, invalid is -1, and meh is -1/5. it's validated at +6 but i don't think it's known what the condition for invalidating it is; probably either it goes below a certain threshold or enough people vote without it hitting +6

i don't actually know what happens if i vote meh, and i don't remember if that option is even available. valid and invalid are both binding for moderators though

citation

this would be a nice feature to have. i'd love to make a userscript, but flags are not that common and flagging is one of the few things you're not allowed to test in the sandbox lol

Redwolf Programs

I could set up a system to log all flags for a while for testing purposes so I could "replay" them to the scriptm but it'd be a lot of work

hyper-neutrino

17:40

well the thing is i don't know what the html format for the flag dialog that pops up when you press the notification is

i suppose another solution is to make a separate webpage, sort of like how new posts catches an otherwise 404 page

Redwolf Programs

You could just use the sockets

hyper-neutrino

true

i usually just click to find the full transcript anyway. it's not important enough that i'd put work into implementing smth like that :P

even with a few lines of context, i'd probably still view the transcript to get a better sense of the message and its context, and if there are other things that need to be deleted or trashed

Redwolf Programs

18:02

I just signed into a Kahoot with three accounts and won all three spots on the podium lol

hyper-neutrino

bruh

Redwolf Programs

Chrome OS's Alt + 1 (and the more general Alt + x) is so overpowered...I'm always annoyed when I try to use it on Ubuntu and it doesn't work

hyper-neutrino

what does that do again

Redwolf Programs

It focuses Chrome, and if it's already focused it rotates through the windows

Unlike Alt + Tab which will flip-flop between the latest two

hyper-neutrino

ah

Redwolf Programs

18:08

Alt + 2 to Alt + 9 can be used for different apps pinned to the desktop

hyper-neutrino

if it's in the taskbar you can use meta+X i think? but you need to target the item by its index in the taskbar and if you use it on something that's not open it'll open it so it's not the same

Redwolf Programs

Oh, sounds exactly like Chrome OS's Alt + x then

hyper-neutrino

if you have chrome focused and then alt-1 once and then alt-1 again, won't it refocus chrome?

Redwolf Programs

If you have a single window open, Alt + 1 won't do anything

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino also works on Windows

caird coinheringaahing

18:16

> What is the meaning of infinity necklace?

It's what Thanos would've used if he had more fashion sense

hyper-neutrino

@pxeger i was going to say windows key + X at first but then i realized redwolf was talking about ubuntu :p even though i'm guessing the keyboard has a windows key and i would've been understood either way

Redwolf Programs

Firefox on a Chromebook. Checkmate, Atheists.

pxeger

tf

hyper-neutrino

Can I get some feedback on this?

+2/-0, no clarifications

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino I'd suggest Mathjax. Additionally, a worked example would be helpful, especially for people unfamiliar with Fenwick trees

hyper-neutrino

18:27

oh yeah, mathjax exists now. also sure, i'll explain what it actually is instead of just offering a sample impl

Redwolf Programs

It's funny to show people Firefox or Minecraft Java running on a Chromebook because it's so unintuitive but obviously possible.

It's not quite as simple as running it on a Windows or Linux device, but that's for multiple very good reasons

pxeger

eww, flatpak

I suppose at least it's not Snap

Redwolf Programs

What's flatpak?

pxeger

That's what the official Firefox instructions say to use to install it

Can you just use a normal package manager?

Redwolf Programs

I just used apt yeah

Unfortunately because my Chromebook is a potato it doesn't do things very fast

Basically imagine "$250 windows laptop" speeds

But that's because it's still a $250 laptop :p

StackMeter

18:38

411 rep pog

I'm becoming important

Wezl

do a "in celebration of 411 rep ..."

StackMeter

I'm saving that for 500

caird coinheringaahing

What's the 411 on your rep situation?

StackMeter

hahahae

Redwolf Programs

Can someone suggest an edit on something or something? I want to test my script.

Or VTC one of caird's questions ducks

caird coinheringaahing

18:45

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Redwolf Programs

Answers still aren't non-competing for using features that postdate the challenge, right?

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms done

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino ..you ...you can't do that

hyper-neutrino

NeutrinoBot

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answer-chaining array-manipulation code-challenge code-golf decision-problem math number

Redwolf Programs

It didn't work :(

hyper-neutrino

18:48

F

well, it would be sock abuse for me to dismiss this. free review task for one of y'all i guess :P

Redwolf Programs

Oh, it was something obvious. Just a stupid on my part.

hyper-neutrino

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caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Thank you :D

@RedwolfPrograms Yes, non-competing is a non-meaningful label now. Please don't edit it out of a bunch of old answers (meta)

Redwolf Programs

Just removing one or two since I'm close to Strunk & White :p

hyper-neutrino

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Redwolf Programs

18:53

At 10k or 20k rep you should 100% be able to mark something as a minor edit and not bump it

hyper-neutrino

at least mods should be able to... but yes i agree with ^

Redwolf Programs

It could still be sent to a list or queue somewhere for other 10k or 20k users to see, but the current system actively discourages small improvements

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