The Nineteenth Byte

user

00:34

@Lyxal This should interest you

hyper-neutrino

time for 18 people to ninja each other on day 11

it's UTC days right?

caird coinheringaahing

@user Decided to make it worth even more :P

I will offer a +100 bounty if there is an answer on each day, until Day 11, which is the next line from the rickroll (i.e. up until the end of the chorus). I'll offer the bounty to the final line. If it continues past Day 11, I'll double the bounty for each day, until it reaches +500 — caird coinheringaahing 6 mins ago

Lyxal

@user can we post multple day 0s?

caird coinheringaahing

> You may have multiple answer on separate days, but only a single answer on any one day.

Lyxal

sad.

New Main Posts

00:45

2

Q: Compose a song, line by line

It's time for CGCC to demonstrate our musical talent! In this challenge, you're going to compose songs while keeping your byte count as small as possible. On Day 0, multiple answerers will post a function or program that outputs nothing/an empty string. They will also give a single line that next...

caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts @user Imagine having an actual song rather than a meme song :P

rak1507

CMC: given a basis for a lattice calculate a short nearly orthogonal lattice basis

OldSandboxPosts

01:00

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Worst time complexity for an irreducible program, (untitled)

DLosc

@NewMainPosts So... I don't get the scoring system. If my score is the average length of my answers, and I only post once, on day 0, with a 0-byte program, don't I automatically win?

Am I missing something?

caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts Vague suggestion for a scoring system (sorry I didn't think of this earlier): mean of something that decays with longer answers (e.g. e^-x), as later answers are naturally going to longer than earlier answers

Lyxal

@NewMainPosts dang I shoulda chose a really long song

DLosc

01:18

@Lyxal This is the song that never ends; yes, it goes on and on, my friends. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll be singing it forever just because this is the song that never ends; yes, it goes on and on, my friends. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll be singing it forever just because this is the song that never ends; yes, it goes on and on, my friends. Some people started singing it not knowing what it was, and they'll be si-

rak1507

someone submit an entire opera libretto

DLosc

(Each line does have to be 100 characters or less.)

rak1507

oh, well that's no fun

New Sandboxed Posts

01:45

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Recover polynomial \$f(x)\$ from \$f^2(x)\$ code-golf math polynomials Related: Calculate \$f^n(x)\$, Polynomialception Challenge Given a polynomial \$f(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2 x^2 + \cdots + a_k x^k\$ of order \$k\$, we can compute its composition with itself \$f\left(f(x)\right) = f \circ f(x) =...

hyper-neutrino

02:18

the new answer-chaining challenge does, unfortunately, attract extremely low-effort answers. (granted, you can't put much effort into outputting nothing, so this is hardly answerers' fault). hoping it'll be very exciting and creative as time goes on :P

DLosc

02:41

(inb4 code bowling challenge about outputting nothing that attracts incredibly creative, high-effort answers)

hyper-neutrino

i'll be impressed

user

03:18

@hyper-neutrino I should have seen that

I guess it’s too late to change stuff now

hyper-neutrino

I mean, I fully expected it, but I am counting on the tradeoff being worth it with the creative answers later :P

user

That’s why i made the challenge;p

Razetime

03:30

ah yes I must post something

Redwolf Programs

03:51

Huh, looks like my random +70 from earlier hasn't been reversed.

Razetime

some thing is fishy..

hyper-neutrino

well, either it hasn't been long enough and the scan hasn't gone through, or there wasn't any noticeable targeted voting behavior

who knows, maybe some user went through some old questions and upvoted a bunch of answers there and not just yours, so it wasn't fraudulent :P

Lyxal

04:22

D:

me when they don't vote for my stuff

hyper-neutrino

F

Lyxal

I suppose being one vote away from having LoTM is compensation enough

StackMeter

07:29

Well I just got muted for 30 minutes and I can't say I didn't have it coming

Lyxal

where and why?

StackMeter

yesterday and for pulling a stupid one-liner

Wasif

what one liner I wanna see

StackMeter

it was removed

Wasif

what was it about

StackMeter

07:32

a discussion about stupid people being rude in chat led me to show off an insta-kill line that got me muted for 30 minutes, and quite frankly I can't really be mad

Lyxal

well was it offensive/crude/etc?

Wasif

oh thats the story

hyper-neutrino

Very much so. I delivered the flag that issued it. Please don't discuss others' suspensions if they don't wish to openly talk about it.

We were discussing problematic users (specifically, a user who was attacking me a while back who I engaged sarcastically because I didn't have mod powers yet) and the conversation go rather out of hand.

StackMeter

@Lyxal HN put it well

anyways

who wants a link to the A-Maze-Ing Adventure

Wasif

i want

hyper-neutrino

07:36

Wait, I gave a 42-byte Java answer to the first day of the answer chain. That was probably a stupid idea. Oh well, I don't care too much about winning anyway :P

StackMeter

you get

@hyper-neutrino what answer chain

hyper-neutrino

- codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/224562

how does a terminal game test my strength :P

StackMeter

let's just extend the RickRoll one

Wasif

hey it looks like your maze isn't complete

yet

hyper-neutrino

well the point is to extend all of them. though I don't think anyone will continue mine; it's a totally dead meme from way too long ago.

StackMeter

07:39

@hyper-neutrino you haven't seen my YT feed then

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino tasty

StackMeter

@Lyxal wth

Lyxal

It's a lorax reference

hyper-neutrino

what's the reference againl the onceler?

Wasif

Well the trash is filled with lot of messages from CGCC, this is quite concerning

Lyxal

07:42

@hyper-neutrino yes.

Wikipedia article

hyper-neutrino

I see. Usually it's CURED but recently it seems to be a lot from CGCC rooms and especially here. My memory's too bad to go through everything in the past few weeks but I'm hoping it's stricter moderation and room owner standards rather than higher noise. But I have been noticing higher noise, so everyone just keep that in mind. We can always move to trash but like all of my mod powers, the less I need them the better.

StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino that's entirely fair

hyper-neutrino

I have noticed caird seems to be more proactive and strict on noise control here than I was expecting, but I'm happy with how it's going and I fully support everything they've done as RO so far. Can't say for sure whether he's stricter or if I am, it's not particularly linear :P

Wasif

Has the "Frick" room been stopped? I can't find it anywhere

hyper-neutrino

I froze it. It's not deleted, but you won't find it without a direct link or clicking "show frozen rooms".

StackMeter

07:48

What's the frick room

Wasif

Lyxal corp property

StackMeter

lol

@Lyxal LyxalCorp just had assets seized

Wasif

oh just found it is named as the armpit's silliness

Lyxal

@StackMeter *Vyxal Corp™

Ftfy

Plus I migrated its assets elsewhere

@Wasif *Vyxal Corporation™

Wasif

@Lyxal well its no longer your property

it has been sacrificed with our old ROs

StackMeter

07:52

@Lyxal hippity hoppity your room is now my property

Lyxal

@Wasif I know, I signed it off to user 2x-1 who gave it to user AviFS

StackMeter

@Lyxal this is a raid

the police are at VyxalCorp

Wasif

actually what caused the room to be frozen?

sorry if I am digging too much

StackMeter

@Lyxal I wanna see your hands up to the air, empty

hyper-neutrino

4

Wasif

08:10

@hyper-neutrino ???

Inspect element?

Photoshop?

hyper-neutrino

@Wasif TL;DR, it had zero productive value to begin with, it was generating too much noise, people were changing room owners and giving it to unrelated people, and some of the content was starting to become not nice / close to CoC violation, so I froze it to prevent further damage.

Also no, that is from me joining 92 sites and gaining the association bonus for all of them :P

4

Wasif

@hyper-neutrino but your network profile shows only a few sites, does it require some time to update the list

hyper-neutrino

no, I hid all of them except 17

hyper-neutrino

08:27

^ unlike most things on SE the network profile site list actually updates pretty fast. pretty much instantly, as far as i can tell

Anush

08:42

if I have a list of strings, how can I find the set of letters in the whole list in python?

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Well, I did warn people in my nominations that I'm very anti-noise :P

Anush

I feel there is a clever compact way using set unions

somehow

hyper-neutrino

@Anush lambda x:set("".join(x))?

Anush

oh that is surprising and clever!

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing yep, true :P warning or a positive, depends how one interprets it :P

Anush

08:44

thanks @hyper-neutrino

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Clearly you just broke the repcap :P

hyper-neutrino

working with strings ("".join) and lists (sum(...,[])) (and equivalently tuples) is significantly easier than dicts and sets

Unrelated String

lambda x:{*"".join(x)}, because abusing splats is always the best practice

hyper-neutrino

right. forgot about that.

i join items into lists using [*a, b, *c] in prod :)

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino If that had been just from repcaps, that's 92% of the way towards Epic :P

hyper-neutrino

08:46

@cairdcoinheringaahing just by a bit. just got a bounty or two, that's all

Unrelated String

not sure how but i have gotten into the habit of splatting everything even though i almost never actually golf in python

hyper-neutrino

it should be theoretically possible for a user to gain unbounded rep from bounties, right? if a bunch of people start them all at once then a user can gain 500x their answer count (unique by q) at once?

i don't think there's a system limitation against it

caird coinheringaahing

A question can only have 1 bounty at a time, but otherwise, yep, no limitation

hyper-neutrino

nice :P

Anush

I want to convert a string into an int. Is there an easy way to do that in python?

hyper-neutrino

08:47

was just gonna say smth about you being up late but... i have realized it is now morning for you and i am the one up far too late

Unrelated String

int

hyper-neutrino

@Anush you mean int("3")?

Unrelated String

unless you mean any string

in which case i think we had this conversation a day or two ago lmao

Anush

yes but int("appl]e") really

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino If someone hacked Jon Skeet's account, they could transfer his rep to them in a day if they had 2600 answers on SO

hyper-neutrino

08:48

right but what is that supposed to mean

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Yep, 10am here :P

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing don't you have a limit of 3 concurrent bounties?

Anush

@hyper-neutrino I just want a unique int for different strings

so "app]e" will map to a different int to "app[e"

hyper-neutrino

@Anush if they're alphanumeric and you don't need to worry about case you can convert from base 36 but otherwise you'll probably just want to implement some system yourself

Anush

@UnrelatedString we did but I am not sure if we found a method

hyper-neutrino

08:49

base 256 even

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino ...yes

Anush

@hyper-neutrino they are made up of printable characters but not alphanumeric

it's just letters from a book from project gutenberg

hyper-neutrino

@Anush you can map codepoint 32 to 127 and use base whatever that is

or just base 256

Anush

@hyper-neutrino int seems to have a maximum base of 36

caird coinheringaahing

If you hacked Jon Skeet's account and awarded yourself 3 +500 bounties a day from it, you'd transfer his rep in ~836 days, assuming he didn't make more rep each day

5

hyper-neutrino

08:51

yes, because it doesn't care about case. you'd need to implement it yourself

Anush

@hyper-neutrino ok thanks

Unrelated String

yeah you just brew your own base conversion

caird coinheringaahing

If he did keep repcapping while you did this, it'd take 965 days

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing thanks; i'll keep that in mind! this is very useful information

Unrelated String

you probably want to use plain ints anyhow

caird coinheringaahing

08:51

@hyper-neutrino Purely academic of course :P

hyper-neutrino

so, out of speculation, i wonder what percentage of the 24 hour cycle we have covered on average between active ROs. of course it's likely a terrible idea to actually figure it out and reveal what openings in time there are when ROs are actually offline and no longer just lurking, but i'm curious :P

i feel like we may have full coverage just from me being awake for so long plus one other person to cover when i'm finally asleep

caird coinheringaahing

I can more or less cover (on average) 10am to 1am (UTC)

Unrelated String

I am not entirely sure this is
good
but I need to eat now

lambda x:sum(b*256**i for i,b in enumerate(bytes(x,'utf-8')))

hyper-neutrino

i typically cover somewhere from 2pm to 5pm UTC, up until anywhere between 5am and 10am UTC

caird coinheringaahing

And I believe Bubbler is awake/lurking from 11pm to 8am UTC, from their activity graph

So between us, we have full coverage

hyper-neutrino

08:57

lmao. nice :P

Anush

@UnrelatedString there are only 95 printable characters so can the 256 be reduced?

hyper-neutrino

actually, to think of it, since xnor isn't too active anymore, there has been a rather long time with large gaps in RO coverage since AFAICT WW and JK aren't quite as active in chat as me, and Doorknob basically doesn't visit chat anymore. i'm (pleasantly) surprised it'd been going so well

actually i think even i was inactive for quite a while during the past school term, only really checking flags on site

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Let's say every SO user with 500 or more rep sets a single +500 bounty for a single user. Ignore petty things like "time" and assume that they all get awarded to a single answer over however long. That user would end up with 197,710,000 rep

hyper-neutrino

> ignoring petty things like "time"

i like this

caird coinheringaahing

Aka, 157 Jon Skeets

hyper-neutrino

09:00

also that is... an interesting statistic

Fatalize

It's been a long tiiiime

Anush

Skeets has a twitter feed so we can follow him there too :)

caird coinheringaahing

Hey @Fatalize :D

hyper-neutrino

Hey there Fatalize! :)

Fatalize

Hi all

somehow got 250 rep during months of inactivity

Has the site been gaining back popularity or is it still on an unfortunate decline?

hyper-neutrino

09:02

It's been a while, how's everything been?

caird coinheringaahing

We've actually been growing, at least by my perception

hyper-neutrino

i think this site is stabilized or even gaining more of a community now. I still miss the old community but I'm happy to see a new one building up now. At least as far as I can tell.

caird coinheringaahing

A lot of the higher rep users have gone, but we've got a pretty consistent influx of new users

Fatalize

@hyper-neutrino Going well. I'm not in a Dennis-type situtation, I just do't really have any interest in code golf anymore

hyper-neutrino

Ah, that's understandable. Well, good to hear you're doing well :)

*sigh* there are a lot of things that would prevent this from working out well, but MM being open to 1+ rep really does bring a lot of spam

caird coinheringaahing

09:11

Do you follow the new posts as well? :P

hyper-neutrino

i'm just glad smoke detector is so ridiculously effective but watching over CHQ has made me realize just how much of a problem SE has with it

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, I'm in CHQ

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Ah, that makes more sense :P

hyper-neutrino

granted, this does bring the potential for confirmation bias, since then i only see the spam :P

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino TBF if SE was the size of say Codidact, it'd be less of a problem. But SO has literally millions of visitors a day, and they do (kinda) promote the rest of the network

hyper-neutrino

even if it's a low noise to signal ratio, that signal is so high that the spam does come at a pretty steady rate :P

caird coinheringaahing

09:14

@hyper-neutrino Now it's been 24 hours since any spam here :P

hyper-neutrino

yay :P (don't jinx it!! lol)

StackMeter

Oh my god I found a question without a Python 3 answer that I can do

@Lyxal I've taken over

Unrelated String

@StackMeter I need to find one I can pressure my friend into doing

Anush

@StackMeter go for it!

StackMeter

I did it

caird coinheringaahing

09:28

You can remove basically all the whitespace for around -50

hyper-neutrino

You can remove whitespace around ==. Also, ==0 might be able to be <1 but I'm not sure. Also, you can inline your if a: return b. Also, if you return, you don't need elif. Also, your printing test case should be in the footer and not the byte count itself. Also, you can chain single-expression if/elif/else into ternaries. if you inline everything, you can use a lambda as well

caird coinheringaahing

78 bytes — caird coinheringaahing 56 secs ago

hyper-neutrino

also, flipping the condition of n==0 lets you check if n

caird coinheringaahing

CMM: If given a list as input, can langs take it as separate function arguments (like a splat in Python)?

e.g. f(1,2,3,4,5) instead of f([1,2,3,4,5])

hyper-neutrino

@StackMeter This doesn't even handle up to 3,7, but the question requries at least 3,10 as being able to be handled within a minute

StackMeter

09:32

@hyper-neutrino that's because Python's recursion limit is too low

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino The question does allow recursion errors tho

(See the Pyth answer for example)

StackMeter

I increased it to 3000000 and it worked in 6-8 seconds

hyper-neutrino

actually, setting the sys recursion limit higher makes it work, so that's allowed. nvm

Razetime

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah this sounds fine

i think ruby has it as well

hyper-neutrino

lol, if I golf this sub any more it's just gonna become identical to the Python 2 (not using input or print, py2 and py3 golf really isn't all that different barring some niche things like the 0o)

+1 anyway

Unrelated String

09:39

maybe my strategy for making my friend golf should just be writing challenges and giving him sandbox snipe rights

caird coinheringaahing

That'd work :P

What language does he use?

@hyper-neutrino For this, you know you can submit a function, right?

hyper-neutrino

oh

can i just sub like ()->0; then or smth like that

caird coinheringaahing

Or _->""?

hyper-neutrino

ah

_ is forbidden as lambda parameter name???? what

ok a->"" it is then

Anush

10:18

what is CMM ?

caird coinheringaahing

Chat Mini Meta

@Anush - codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12537/…

Unrelated String

10:33

python
think he knows some others but isn't comfortable with them
like i'm pretty sure he has done some java at some point but wouldn't consider himself to know java
and he's probably better at bash than i am but that is not saying much

Fatalize

@hyper-neutrino Good to hear

Are there any new golf languages that were created in the last year or so?

caird coinheringaahing

Vyxal

Fatalize

Vyxal has a special focus upon readability and elegancy

Fizzbuzz example: Ĥƛ3œı⇿⌊*n5œıₛÔ*+⟇

(X) doubt

Razetime

@Fatalize Arn, xapl, Jam, SlimSharp, xsh

@Fatalize lol, it means that you can make it readable if you really want to

5

never really the focus in golfing lol

caird coinheringaahing

@Razetime I wouldn't say Jam was "created" :P I'm just modifying the builtin set of Jelly

Razetime

10:43

i suppose it's a "new" project

2x-1

@Razetime I'm actually working on Zeta. I consider xsh to be a "failed" golfing language

Fatalize

SlimSharp sounds like a brand of jeans

Razetime

oh well

Zeta it is then

@Fatalize oh nice, you made brachylog

Fatalize

@Razetime Yeah,not sure it's used much anymore

caird coinheringaahing

Unrelated String uses it fairly regularly

2x-1

10:45

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh, Zeta has pretty much the same idea as Jam

Razetime

@UnrelatedString does use it but otherwise, maybe dlosc

idk

I haven't understood brachylog yet(somehow I understood Jelly quicker)

Fatalize

Never understood the rules for parsing Jelly

Brachylog is probably annoying to learn though if you don't know Prolog

Razetime

Prolog chatroom got opened up recently

haven't seen too many answers in it here

caird coinheringaahing

Looks like xash and Unrelated String are the top recent Brachylog golfers

Razetime

ah yes xash

xash made a non-golfing language named convey

very cute, and has a gif maker

caird coinheringaahing

10:48

Plus ais is still around, posting the occasional answer

Anush

fun in R: max(mod(1073726870*1:10000+832294981, 1073741827)) = 832280024

can anyone explain that?

Fatalize

@cairdcoinheringaahing LMAO really?

still waiting for him to implement his declarative golfing language which is supposedly way better than Brachylog

Razetime

ais the anti-rep man

caird coinheringaahing

@Fatalize Yep

Fatalize

I take it that Jelly and 05AB1E are still the top languages, with Vyxal sometimes competing?

caird coinheringaahing

10:58

Yeah. Vyxal's fairly new tho, so there isn't that much "history" to see how well it compares

Husk is also pretty high ranking

Razetime

@Fatalize yeah, with the occasional husk/stax

Fatalize

I see that TIO is still working, is Dennis still maintaining it?

caird coinheringaahing

Not really

Razetime

no idea

@Fatalize latest ELO ratings

caird coinheringaahing

No new languages have been added since Jan 2020, but we've had a few bug reports that have been fixed quickly

Razetime

11:00

i honestly thing the program has bugged out since 05AB1E isn't near the top

caird coinheringaahing

@Fatalize Some context

Fatalize

Maybe it's because 05AB1E is used a lot so there are mor "average" submissions

Lyxal

@Razetime sneak peak testing shows it's back on top

Razetime

lol

Fatalize

I had read that, I was just wondering if he was still keeping it hosted despite to being here anymore, or if he had passed the torch to someone else

Razetime

11:01

i was wondering if it was because kevin cruijssen wasn't posting as of late

Fatalize

Brachylog just above Actually, that all I care about

Lyxal

@Razetime I tested it just a few hours ago

Razetime

Brachylog should be higher up

Fatalize

Brachylog probably has a good average answer length

Razetime

some langs which have barely any use are at top because they win a lot in a few challenges and never lose rating due to lesser games

Fatalize

11:02

but in my experience the standard deviation of that length is pretty bad

caird coinheringaahing

@Fatalize pxeger has been working on Attempt This Online, but it looks like TIO is sort of just "stagnating". Bugs in TIO are getting fixed, but languages are "frozen" as they were a year ago

Fatalize

SOme challenges in Brachylog are really bad because you need a lot of overhead due to input/output formats

Lyxal

I can't remember the order of second place down, but I can confirm that Shakespeare is still at the bottom

Fatalize

other challenges are really short because they benefit from declarative approaches

Razetime

@Fatalize i don't think that's a problem anymore

Fatalize

11:03

so it's not surprising to see it at an average ELO position

Razetime

with the exception of qwatry's latest question

Fatalize

C++ and Go barely above whitespace

LUL

caird coinheringaahing

I'm almost exactly 50% of the way towards a gold discussion badge (499/1000, 101/200) :D

Razetime

I suppose Vim went up a few spots in a new poll

Lyxal

@Razetime I think you're right that the march results are a bit bugged

I found this down at the bottom:

43 bytes: 818

caird coinheringaahing

11:07

Jan 9 '18 at 20:55, by Wheat Wizard

Ok we have selected a name it is "Jelly, 3 bytes"

Lyxal

Looks like Jelly got replaced with 4

Razetime

@cairdcoinheringaahing where do you pull these messages from

caird coinheringaahing

The transcript :P

Razetime

thank you chartz, very cool

caird coinheringaahing

I mainly just remember jokes/messages from times I was in the room, and stars help to search for them

StackMeter

11:22

I saw another question that has no Python 3 answer so I'm doing that

Razetime

11:37

anders kaseorg wins challenges in some unexpected languages

StackMeter

I am now 1/5 of the way to my bronze code-golf badge

Lyxal

@Razetime example?

Razetime

11

A: The Ackermann function

Binary lambda calculus, 54 bits = 6.75 bytes Hexdump: 00000000: 1607 2d88 072f 68 ..-../h Binary: 000101100000011100101101100010000000011100101111011010 This is λm. m (λg. λn. g (n g 1)) (λn. λf. λx. f (n f x)), where all numbers are represented as Church numerals.

beats jelly btw

caird coinheringaahing

Well yeah, it's BLC :P

Razetime

6

A: Visualize chain rule

Sesos, 49 bytes 0000000: 2ac992 63fb92 245fb6 6c57be 255bbe 2cc9bf 6d49da *..c..$_.lW.%[.,..mI. 0000015: 025e7f fdced0 fd67f8 fcde33 b6a7b2 643d4f 65597e .^.....g...3...d=OeY~ 000002a: f77a72 dd73cf fe .zr.s.. Try it online Disassembled set numin add 68 ;...

pxeger

12:22

I have 3999 rep

How do I resolve this

ZippyMagician

find somebody who downvoted you, bribe them :p

pxeger

Here's the plan: downvote an answer (-1), and then accept an answer (+2)

2x-1

Why do you need 4000 rep

Adám

@pxeger The same answer?

2x-1

Rep is pointless

pxeger

12:31

no

Lyxal

@pxeger I don't know how but I constantly find your reply to the one email I sent you hilarious

pxeger

@2x-1 because 3999 is an unsatisfying number

@Lyxal that's me: constantly hilarious

2x-1

@pxeger There are unsatisfying things that happen in life. Usually, you'll just forget about it and carry on

pxeger

very wise

2x-1

So, rep is pointless

rak1507

12:32

@2x-1 lol, spoken like someone who doesn't have a time machine

2x-1

@rak1507 Are there any side effects that only happen to people with 3999 rep?

rak1507

a constant feeling of uneasiness

2x-1

I may have spoken too much

Redwolf Programs

I fully agree with rak1507

Having 3999 rep is bad

Adám

Has anyone here ever done "Zen" coding? Meditate (or in my case: sleep) on the problem, then write it all in one go, and find that it is correct?

Redwolf Programs

12:35

4000 is much better

rak1507

@Adám not quite but one of my APL problem solving competition answers came to me in a dream

Lyxal

@Adám almost: its the being correct part I never get right first try

Redwolf Programs

@Adám No need, I write all of my code with absolutely no flaws the first time around :p

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Plz Halp I Need $$$ Again Bob’s startup is running out of money and desperately needs investors to keep it afloat. Although you have helped Bob find the maximum number of investors, Bob has quickly realized that more investors does not lead to more funds because different investors give different...

Lyxal

@NewSandboxedPosts ffs Bob hire someone to devise a fricking business plan or something.

rak1507

12:39

lol

Redwolf Programs

Sounds about like most tech startups tbh lol

Lyxal

@NewSandboxedPosts like I get you asking for financial support one time but I would expect you to know how tf investing works if you're actually managing to get people interested in your stuff

Smh

\s

caird coinheringaahing

@2x-1 They're 1 more rep away from the delete button than those with 4000 :P

Redwolf Programs

@NewSandboxedPosts Plot twist: This user actually is running a business with hundreds of investors lining up to give them money, but can't figure out which ones to meet with :p

Razetime

12:56

@Adám mm sort of?

StackMeter

13:15

Finally

After over a week

My question can be migrated to the main site

Wezl

‮gninrom dooG

caird coinheringaahing

The (open) questions with the fewest views on the site

And the same, but for meta (slightly out of date, the data is from Sunday)

StackMeter

wait how do I format a question

Redwolf Programs

Like the text formatting itself, or the necessary things to write (description, I/O, test cases, etc.)?

StackMeter

@RedwolfPrograms the latter

Redwolf Programs

13:27

(If you're writing a challenge, make sure put it in the sandbox first, then any formatting issues can be addresses there)

StackMeter

I did

Redwolf Programs

@StackMeter I usually put a general description at the top, then a more specific description of the allowed inputs and outputs and the task itself, then some useful test cases, then the typical This is [tag:code-golf]...

pxeger

User posts challenge in sandbox and gets 3 upvotes quickly, so copies it to the main site less than an hour later. I warn them of this; they say "Okay, thanks. Should I put it back there really quickly?" Since it's only been 5 minutes and noone's answered yet, I'd say there's no harm? opinions?

Redwolf Programs

Just keep it in main IMO

pxeger

oo too late

StackMeter

13:36

what happened

well, CGCC checked ways to improve my question and found none, so I'm sending it off

it's done

Redwolf Programs

That review page does nothing btw :p

StackMeter

@RedwolfPrograms aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Generate a UK number plate code-golf string date random Modern British number plates (a.k.a. registration marks or license plates) use the format AA12XXX where AA is a DVLA memory tag (basically a location code), 12 is the age identifier, and XXX is three random letters. Your task is to, given a ...

Redwolf Programs

@StackMeter I'm not sure if you sandboxed that but if you did it definitely wasn't sandboxed long enough

user

^

This doesn't look like a decision problem

StackMeter

13:51

@RedwolfPrograms sandboxed it for 11 days

Redwolf Programs

I guess it got buried then.

I'd recommend posting links to it in chat, and don't post unless you actually see positive feedback on it

user

Is there any way to keep the Sandbox featured forever?

StackMeter

idk

I don't have mod powers

someone downvoted it w/o leaving a comment

pxeger

it used to be (or, at least, we wanted it to be - I can't remember where the proposal went), but now we have the shiny Info Box above the featured questions, so we don't need to any more

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