The Nineteenth Byte

Redwolf Programs

00:34

TFW you get ninja'd and they outgolfed you by 38 bytes

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Q: Did I die or not?

Given a permutation of the alphabet and an intended "word", determine if the word was guessed in a game of Hangman, where the permutation is the list of guesses. For example, given ASTNORDYUVKFMCLWIHEBQGPJXZ as the permutation, and ASTRONAUT as the word, we know that the word was guessed. Only 2 ...

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Imagine getting outgolfed by multiple digit numbers. made by the golfing lang gang :P

Redwolf Programs

Arnauld is overpowered, hopefully that gets fixed in the next update

5

caird coinheringaahing

Arnauld is clearly running JS on Dennis' software

Lyxal

We've already established that Arnauld is a JavaScript writing AI

How don't you know this?

@RedwolfPrograms it's not going to get fixed. It's his source code which uses machine learning that allows him to ninja you

Redwolf Programs

00:45

I was just finishing the test cases too :(

caird coinheringaahing

That was your mistake :P

Golfing first, test cases second :P

Bubbler

Well, you can always choose a language you know you won't get ninja'd

Choosing JS is the worst choice in that sense

Lyxal

@Bubbler ninjad

Redwolf Programs

JS is the only practical language I know well enough to golf in though :/

Lyxal

Well maybe if you, I dont know, hurried up and actually implemented your language you wouldn't have this problem

⌍P

Redwolf Programs

00:48

Yeah yeah I'm making progress :p

Lyxal

Not enough obviously

Redwolf Programs

My to-do list is almost empty actually

I'm going to make an online interpreter for n_7 though, since the dictionaries are going to require separate JS files, so that'll be the main thing I do tomorrow.

Lyxal

Autocomplete must be questioning my meme taste rn: as soon as I enter the letters am, it suggests amogus

Redwolf Programs

Then I'll release n_7, and after that I'll spend somewhere between two and four weeks adding two byte operators, making small changes for consistency and golfiness, documenting things, and fixing bugs. After that it's final release.

Expect Ash to be in a semi-usable state (n_7) within two days.

Lyxal

Hmm

This is appeasing enough that you won't be sacrificed today

Redwolf Programs

00:54

That's good, I dislike being sacrificed

hyper-neutrino

it's fun, you should try it out sometime

Lyxal

Someone has to appease the amogus

And it ain't me

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: How Long Until The Next Date?, Implement Minceraft, A large number of stamps

caird coinheringaahing

Good bot

hyper-neutrino

> Implement Minecraft

caird coinheringaahing

01:01

> Implement Minceraft

FTFY

hyper-neutrino

dammit i spelled it correctly (incorrectly)

Redwolf Programs

(correctly)

You did corretly incorrectly spell it correctly

That was incorrect though

caird coinheringaahing

@OldSandboxPosts @Lyxal strongly recommend requiring the input to be the days names

hyper-neutrino

you incorrectly spelled correctly when trying to correctly tell me that i incorrectly spelled it correctly (this is getting out of hand)

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Lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing wait that was a week ago?

Holy frick

hyper-neutrino

01:03

Feb 28 at 1:17, by caird coinheringaahing

idk the physics behind it, but time has been on some hardcore drugs for the past 18 months

Redwolf Programs

Aw, you ruined it :(

I like the nested quotes

caird coinheringaahing

That might be one of the most cited messages in a while :P

hyper-neutrino

CMQ: do you write useful edit messages when editing SE posts

Lyxal

No

Redwolf Programs

I've started to

hyper-neutrino

01:07

i usually do on other people's posts but almost never my own (it's usually just a golf, or adding an explanation, anyway)

Redwolf Programs

I've got some extra raw chicken, but not enough to do anything with. ~~Should I make chicken sushi?~~

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino No, my edits are usually pretty obvious about what they edit

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms brilliant idea

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Speaking on behalf of your cats, I have an excellent idea :P

hyper-neutrino

lol the votes on the RO election thread changed. i was hoping nobody would notice that i unlocked it but uh. it's kind of STILL FEATURED

thanks SE

very cool

Lyxal

01:09

@hyper-neutrino you're not supposed to add golfs or explanations

Redwolf Programs

I tossed a small, thin piece of chicken into a hot pan and it shrank to half size almost instantly lol

Lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing okay I've done the edit

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Go lock it and wait a bit :P

Redwolf Programs

@Lyxal On their own posts

hyper-neutrino

if i lock it it's gonna stay featured again and then i'll have to unlock it and then reeeee

Lyxal

01:10

Oh

@hyper-neutrino just wait till you die

You'll come back and it'll be fixed

Ez

hyper-neutrino

i could've just not locked it in the first place but i wanted to freeze the votes until i actually granted the access

@Lyxal i tried that already

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino so try again

We'll wait.

hyper-neutrino

i have a 3 day cooldown on dying though

Lyxal

Dang

That sucks

Lyxal

01:34

posting this soon if no further feedback is provided

caird coinheringaahing

@Lyxal poises finger over FGITW button

Lyxal

I'll take that as I should post to main

hyper-neutrino

this is just gonna be who can press E faster

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, looks clear enough

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino sike you thought

caird coinheringaahing

01:42

@Lyxal Clever :P

hyper-neutrino

I like that idea

Lyxal

nice

hyper-neutrino

would it be too much of a stretch to output 1 for truthy and >=2 for falsy lol

Lyxal

no

I don't think so

hyper-neutrino

nice

7 bytes in proton then xddd

i see this gives jelly an easy 2b as well lmao

caird coinheringaahing

01:46

Yep :P

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino I mean, it's pretty reasonable, so why should I say no?

hyper-neutrino

/shrug/ idk

caird coinheringaahing

This is the second day in a row that I've hit +70 before 2am UTC

Lyxal

this is going on main in roughly 10 hours if there's no objections

hyper-neutrino

i hit like +130 yesterday at 2am lmao

10 hours? aw i'll be asleep then :(

unless...

Lyxal

01:49

depends if i'm close to repcapping by that time

if I'm close to +200 it ain't being posted until tomorrow

caird coinheringaahing

@Lyxal Suggestion: only post one per day, to get Curious/Inquisitive/Socratic

Lyxal

guess who isn't posting anymore kolmogorov-complexity for a while?

I have 69 posts under that tag

nice.

Wasif

@Lyxal I am still posting, i have nearly ~73 score in that tag

Lyxal

Hey @Wasif did you know the online Vyxal interpreter has a post generator?

caird coinheringaahing

I figured it wouldn't be fair/whatever to post 3 2 byte answers in Jelly, 05AB1E and Husk that all just do len(unique(x)), so I grouped them into one answer

Lyxal

01:54

@cairdcoinheringaahing I saw that, and I like that idea

Wasif

@Lyxal no

@cairdcoinheringaahing then if it isn't fair then you can use python eval atom

caird coinheringaahing

@Wasif Nah, by "unfair" I meant that I could post 3/4 answers for each language and get multiple upvotes from each. I don't exactly need the rep, so I figured it'd be better to just collect those answers into one post

The submissions themselves are fine, it was more about the behaviour I could've done

@Lyxal You're gonna get ratio'ed hard on this challenge :P

Lyxal

@wasif - i.sstatic.net/Sl6Zo.png

@cairdcoinheringaahing ratio'd?

caird coinheringaahing

3 votes, 6 answers, 8 views

That's a hell of a ratio to have :P

Lyxal

just tell me, is that good or bad because I don't really know

caird coinheringaahing

02:03

I typically aim for a high score and views with a low answer count

Generally, if the answer count is much higher than the score, then it's a trivial challenge

hyper-neutrino

mfw answer votes are +2 for everything except mine, even tho lyxal and i are the only ones who wrote the language we're using :P

should've just fgitw'd in python lol

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Get nae-nae'd :P

Wasif

Well, is the RO tool testing room still running?

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, go wild

Lyxal

I would if it wasn't in a fricking 16+ hour timeout

Wasif

02:07

What timeout

RO's can talk still in timeout

caird coinheringaahing

ROs are exempt from timeouts

Wasif

Ninja'd!

hyper-neutrino

oh yeah i think user did that

Lyxal

you can't tell me that isn't in timeout

yes, I can't crop

and yes I'll go charge my computer

hyper-neutrino

0/10 no freehand red circle around the timeout message

caird coinheringaahing

02:09

The giant timeout countdown :P

Wasif

@Lyxal i made you an RO now you can talk

And take revenge :P

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Q: Are All the Items the Same?

Given a list of positive integers, return whether or not that list is all the same number. Rules Input and output can be taken/given in any reasonable and convenient format There will always be at least 1 item in the input list The list items are guaranteed to be in the range [0, 9] (\$0 \le n \...

code-golf array-manipulation decision-problem

Wasif

Can there be an infinite timeout?

hyper-neutrino

max is 1 day

though freezing a room is a toggle so it can be infinite

Wasif

I see

Redwolf Programs

02:29

> ...makes a serious effort towards optimizing the submission's score within the chosen language(s) and other choices (such as algorithm choice or optional restrictions/bonuses taken).

My favorite part of the serious contender rule

This makes it justifiable under the rules to post interesting solutions, where a ton of work was obviously put in, where there's a shorter but potentially much slower or more cheaty approach

Bubbler

Agreed

hyper-neutrino

3:12:25 lol. oof

Lyxal

With a downvote too

That's the result of some of the same people answering more than once

user

@hyper-neutrino Oops

I can’t cancel it now because I’m not an RO there anymore

Wasif

Frick the room has been frozen by Lyxal, but I expected the number 69420 to pop up

At start

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02:57

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Q: Participant number

A math Olympiad will be held, and participants are being registered. The highest number of participants is 100. Each participant is given an ID number. It is given in a sequence like \$100, 97, 94, 91, 88, ...., 1\$, and when the first sequence is over, then \$99, 96, 93, 90, 87, ...., 3\$ sequen...

code-golf math

Lyxal

@NewMainPosts 27 minutes

Wasif

New record for it

I hope it will delay 69 minutes or 420 seconds some day in future

Lyxal

@Wasif not frozen, but transferred to sole control by me

It's a dictatorship now

Aaaand I'm trapped in here again

Wonderful

Wasif

What trap

Lyxal

The nineteenth byte

I'll accidentally open it in all my open tabs on mobile and then have to enter a different url to escape

user

03:06

“accidentally“

Lyxal

Because I forget that I have it open in my other tab, I open it in my current tab. Then when I try to switch, it takes me to the same place

Wasif

Hey are you too lazy to type a new link

Lyxal

@user it's totally not due to a somewhat addictive reliance on code golf for entertainment

Wasif

That sounds no trap

Lyxal

@Wasif okay here's a screenshot

Both tabs are the nineteenth byte

It's because I have here and main both open at once

And then I forget that I have TNB open so I open it from the tab with code golf main

Bubbler

03:10

Laughs in "Open in a new tab"

Lyxal

That's what I have to end up doing

Wasif

Use the + button

Lyxal

It's more that when it happens I have nowhere else to go except here or a new tab

@Wasif that's what I end up doing

The point is that y'all've completely missed the point

user

Don’t do ~~drugs~~ golf, kids

Finally

Why are strike throughs so hard on mobile?

Lyxal

~~they aren't~~

user

03:18

It turns two dashes into —

Lyxal

Lol

user

—-Time to make my own OS—-

Lyxal

Oof

hyper-neutrino

if you do - - - and then delete the spaces does it work

Lyxal

~~what~~?

user

03:20

Yeah that’s what I did but it’s annoying

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino as shown, yes

user

As a golfer the whole point of my life is typing as little as possible

Lyxal

My keyboard doesn't put spaces between dashes

hyper-neutrino

in that case i suggest golfing ---x--- to x /s; for most values of x, it evaluates to a similar result

user

Good idea

Lyxal

03:22

That's cheating /s

user

Time for Tips for Golfing Typing on Various Devices /s

hyper-neutrino

type in mandarin

Lyxal

Next thing you know they'll add keyboard flags

⌍P

user

@hyper-neutrino Idk the script

hyper-neutrino

most keyboards' prediction nowadays is op; sometimes i'll see my mom press like two keys and it'll autofill three characters that she wants even though she only typed the consonants for two of them

Lyxal

03:23

And how do I count autocomplete taps?

hyper-neutrino

unfortunately i cannot read/write it either :c

user

Does Mandarin have an SVCS or would I need to use Unicode?

hyper-neutrino

you would need unicode

Lyxal

JMCS ftw

user

:(

Bubbler

03:25

Single Vyte Coding System?

hyper-neutrino

mandarin has at least 3000 characters for everyday usage

Lyxal

@user single vyxal character set?

user

@hyper-neutrino That’s way too many to remember for me

hyper-neutrino

i'm honestly really surprised the new challenge (the equality thing) isn't a duplicate, lmao.

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino caird couldn't find a dupe either

user

03:26

@Bubbler No, guess again. You have two tries left :p

Bubbler

I won't then

Lyxal

Lol

user

Ok ok I’ll reveal what it means: Smart Vay to Count Stuff

Redwolf Programs

Okay dracula from sesame street

4

Lyxal

1, ha ha ha

2, ha ha ha

3, ha ha ha

user

03:30

The first thing that was a good app and it would have to have the app for the app and I have no clue how it would work out the way that it is on my iPhone or iPhone to play with my iPad or iPad to use the iPad version of my iPad

Lyxal

3 is the number of the day!

user

^ It’s surprisingly coherent (I just hit the middle suggestion repeatedly)

Lyxal

The first two years have a good night of fun at work on Saturday and I'll try and make sure to have the time and space for your wedding ceremony at a wedding party and wedding day of your ceremony in Sydney on your own life and work in an open environment for all people

@user I see your stuff and raise you a wedding

Redwolf Programs

We're in the final hours of funny number day over here

:(

hyper-neutrino

finally

just 30m left for me

Lyxal

03:31

Sad

But not really

Redwolf Programs

4-20 haha

That's for the EST people

user

@Lyxal How does your autocomplete have a wedding so many times?

hyper-neutrino

don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. or don't.

Lyxal

@user Idfk it just does

Redwolf Programs

Lyxal got married and is having kids, that's why they make so many dad jokes

Lyxal

03:32

@hyper-neutrino I'm smiling because it happened

user

Lyxal Exposed as Wedding Caterer

Redwolf Programs

It all makes sense

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms not my wedding ceremony sorry

@user oh frick.

hyper-neutrino

wedding ceremony but it's undertale music

user

Congratulations on becoming a Dad, Lyxal

Lyxal

03:34

@user so I'm 42 now am I?

user

I hope you rickroll your kids as they’re born

Lyxal

I think I'll dab on them first

Ðäb

That's how it tried to autocomplete

user

@Lyxal Don’t overestimate yourself; you’re not the answer to life, the universe and everything

late and unnecessary /s

Lyxal

@user it should have read as 42.0

which is arguably funnier

hyper-neutrino

03:50

can someone explain this regex to me

namely, why does the first one match even though the - doesn't have a - before it

and if it's due to the ?= group

why the second one then doesn't match properly

Bubbler

?= is a look-forward

hyper-neutrino

what's the appropriate way of matching the - before \d+ if and only if it's preceded by another - without consuming both - in the process?

i.e. i cannot do ((-)-)?\d+ because then findall will group the first - with this as well

Bubbler

You mean, match the second - in --123?

hyper-neutrino

yeah

Bubbler

(?=-)-\d+ checks that, at a certain position, the next char is - and also the pattern coming is -\d+, which simply checks the existence of - twice

(?=--)-\d+ checks that the next two chars are - and also the pattern coming is -\d+, which is simply false

hyper-neutrino

03:58

oh, I see

Bubbler

I think what you want is (?<=-)-\d+

hyper-neutrino

that's a look-behind i'm assuming? (or whatever the appropriate name is)

Bubbler

At the current position, the char before that position is - and the next incoming pattern is -\d+

Yeah, it's called lookbehind

hyper-neutrino

ohh. okay. thank you very much :D

Bubbler

(regex101 is your friend whenever you have regex questions, especially "why this regex works like that")

hyper-neutrino

04:02

oh nice. this is very helpful :p

Razetime

feedback feedback feedback

@Neil pinging you since you will probably solve this

Redwolf Programs

My newest challenge is inspired by caird :p

Razetime

ah yes mathjax edits :P

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms and there's an issue with your testcases

Redwolf Programs

Fixed

Lyxal

04:12

good

Redwolf Programs

I'd had it as x⁴⁰ first but changed it to make the numbers used more diverse

Razetime

why are superscript numbers not consecutive in unicode

this is so dumb

Redwolf Programs

The first few were added way before the others I think

Lemme check

Bubbler

2 and 3 came first, and then the rest as a group IIRC

Redwolf Programs

I think ¹ came with ² and ³

Bubbler

04:17

Yeah, but not consecutively :/

2 and 3 are 0xb2 and 0xb3, but 1 is 0xb9

and the rest are at 0x2070+offset

Unrelated String

-_-

Redwolf Programs

¹²³ are the only ones that look nice in monospaced font on my laptop

The rest are too high up, and thinner than normal

Bubbler

Because the three are included in Latin-1 and have much better font support than the ones far away in Unicode

You're basically seeing font replacements for missing glyphs

Redwolf Programs

yeah

stupid fonts, being designed for humans instead of code golfers >:|

hyper-neutrino

okay so i am trying to implement an AST parser + evaluator for a relatively simple syntax (+ - * /, integers, brackets)

but in one line of python

i'm beginning to think this wasn't a smart idea

oh also order of operations is variable :D

Redwolf Programs

04:29

The first sub 10:00 Minecraft speedrun (1.16+ RSG) has happened. This is insane.

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Q: Convert superscripts to MathJax

CGCC hasn't always had MathJax. Back in the dark ages, it would have been necessary to write \$x^2\$ as x² (the horror!). In this challenge, you will be given some math which may include superscripts, and you should convert it to MathJax. Input: Input will consist of one or more letters a to z, s...

code-golf string math

Redwolf Programs

It's kind of controversial though because a ton of pausing was done in order to think and load chunks

It used the new divine travel strat too :o

Razetime

@NewMainPosts @UnrelatedString post using brachylog superscripts, quick

Redwolf Programs

He blinded into the stronghold too :o

right next to the portal room

Razetime

@RedwolfPrograms like, till enderdragon?

any%?

Redwolf Programs

04:39

Random Seed Glitchless, time they enter the portal after defeating the dragon

Unrelated String

@Razetime I would say "shame there's no string constant for them" but Husk doesn't have one either so

Razetime

@UnrelatedString lol only brachylog and Husk have em as 1 byte

afaik

Unrelated String

Jelly has all of them except ⁰ lmao

Razetime

ah yeah lmao

i mistook the degree symbol for 0

Unrelated String

doesn't help that it's right next to ¹² in the bookmarklet

Manish Kundu

04:48

lol why does simply writing "⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹" give `iconv: illegal input sequence at position 1
` in Pyth ;-;

Redwolf Programs

Seriously, duolingo updated one of the lessons right as I was doing it so I didn't get credit for it

Lyxal

imagine using duolingo

Redwolf Programs

in CG&CC-gaming, Dec 21 '20 at 5:46, by Redwolf Programs

I forgot yesterday and an owl has been following me. I keep hearing screams and finding people who look like me dead on the ground, a look of terror on their face with threats scratched into nearby walls in perfect spanish.

Lyxal

and that's why we don't learn other languages

we be responsible and protect our friends and family from our own inabilities to learn

and if you need me to /s that then you have no sense of sarcasm

Wasif

Hello I am back, are you talking about spoken languages

Lyxal

04:53

yes

Redwolf Programs

Yes

Lyxal

get ninjad

Redwolf Programs

The hivemind is real

Wasif

CMQ: Who is the user who have done the most ninjas

And what is hivemind

Lyxal

@Wasif the redwolf hivemind

The truth is accidentally leaked

Jan 22 at 22:49, 42 minutes total – 47 messages, 3 users, 6 stars

Bookmarked Jan 22 at 23:40 by Lyxal

Also

We're getting into the poultry business lads.

Mar 5 at 22:14, 39 minutes total – 104 messages, 5 users, 4 stars

Bookmarked Mar 6 at 11:19 by Lyxal

@Wasif these should explain it

The truth is accidentally leaked

We're getting into the poultry business lads.

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