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12:26 AM
lots of short dead ends though, so maze probably not as difficult as it looks
 
 
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1:32 AM
@quartata today I learned seth everman has reblogged dril tweets but not yours you're falling behind in the meme race
 
@EsolangingFruit what algorithm did you use?
actually, at full size, I can tell...that looks like Prim's algorithm?
 
@Riker you are aware of the fact that dril has 1.3 million followers and is literally a published author right
I was never in the race, the race began in 2005
 
2:11 AM
I've been retweeted twice by accounts of follower magnitude 3 and once by an account of follower magnitude 4. those were proud moments except it didn't get me any new followers, just likes
followers are the lifeblood. they are your only means of escape
 
 
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4:48 AM
O_o what are the reasons I could have lost -25 rep on an answer at once
 
@Downgoat Unopvote + unnaccept.
Or 15 downvotes and one upvote, take your pick :P
 
@DJMcMayhem ah yes ok
@DJMcMayhem that would be -20 no?
 
Anonymous
Also voting abnormality correction is always an option, but you'd see that in the rep change message
 
5:15 AM
@Downgoat Oh shoot, yeah. I was thinking of challenge +5
 
6:10 AM
Randall why
 
6:36 AM
@NathanMerrill Nope, it's a custom thing that probably doesn't work very well. The algorithm is just "pick a random node and then expand on it" iterated until none of them have a place to put a tile.
But Prim's algorithm seems interesting. I'll check it out.
 
7:15 AM
@betseg oh my
 
7:40 AM
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Q: Longest Repeating Subsequence of a Single Digit

Kevin CruijssenChallenge: Given a positive integer, output the longest single-digit subsequence that occurs at least twice, AND has boundaries of another digit (or the start/end of the integer). An example: Input: 7888885466662716666 The longest subsequence of a single digit would be 88888 (7[88888]546666271...

 
7:51 AM
@EsolangingFruit What algorithm did you use for the maze generation?
 
 
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9:43 AM
3 hours ago, by Esolanging Fruit
@NathanMerrill Nope, it's a custom thing that probably doesn't work very well. The algorithm is just "pick a random node and then expand on it" iterated until none of them have a place to put a tile.
 
9:55 AM
@Alion ah, I'm bad at reading... However, it looks like the algorithm uses BFS rather than the standard DFS?
 
 
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12:53 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

int6hTriangular snake You're given a triangular field: It has 4 ports. You're also given five different pieces from A to E: Each piece has a little piece of path inside it. Your basic goal is to build paths between ports. There are some rules: Each cell of the field can be occupied by 0 or...

 
 
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2:02 PM
@quartata oh absolutely but still you're losing
 
2:30 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

seadoggie01This needs some work. I'm posting it to get it out of my head. It could be my first challenge. Title: AutoGolf Your Code While everybody knows golfing code is fun, it's super easy to miss a byte or two. Write some code in a language of your choice that removes golf-able bytes and still leaves ...

 
@EsolangingFruit That is the prim algorithm :)
 
 
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4:02 PM
I didn't think it was possible, but Chrome actually took a step backwards with this new tab UI
 
@DJMcMayhem nobody can unupvote an answer after their vote has been in for 5 minutes and the answer hasn't been edited after the upvote :P
@AdmBorkBork that's the most unimportant of the new abominations... :P
 
@Downgoat Answer deletion.
 
@AdmBorkBork The worst part is that they removed the notification dot for pinned tabs.
 
Oh, I've never used a pinned tab. What's that?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I know, but it could have been edited by the goat
 
4:16 PM
@AdmBorkBork Pinned tabs show only the favicon, not the site's title. There used to be a blue dot in a corner of the favicon when the tab's title changed, so whenever I got a new email, WhatsApp message, Telegram message, or ping in TIO's chat room, the blue dot would let me know I had to check out that tab.
 
Oh, that sounds like a handy feature
 
@DJMcMayhem pretty unlikely
 
It was. My first four pinned tabs are essentially useless for notifications now. I'd have to go through them manually to see any new messages.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Not really. It could have been posted like a year ago, upvoted, then edited. Then any amount of time could have passed, then someone unupvoted. That doesn't seem too unlikely to me
 
Why are we guessing? Isn't all of that information publicly visible in the profile?
 
4:19 PM
I don't know which answer it was
 
Oh yeah...
 
well, dunno if Downgoat is actually referring to that answer though
that's why I can't just visit the reputation tab
 
Unless Downgoat was talking about something that happened more than four months ago, yes.
 
Is there a command or device file I can pipe into another command that just blocks reading indefinitely while doing nothing
 
4:23 PM
/dev/full
 
Thanks
 
No, wait.
 
Oh?
 
I got confused. For reading, /dev/full behaves like /dev/zero.
 
Ah
 
4:25 PM
You could create a named pipe.
 
Pipey McPipeface
 
mkfifo donothing
cat donothing
# does nothing
 
Yeah, that's nicer than my current while true; do; true; done solution
 
At least use sleep. :P
Also, do; is a syntax error.
 
I spread it over multiple lines since I never remember where to put semicolons
 
4:28 PM
> While true: do. True; done.
 
while
true
do
true
done
Why is it done though. This is Bash; shouldn't it be elihw?
7
 
@Pavel Did anyone else read this like William Shatner was speaking it?
 
@Dennis nah, looks too much like "Hello, World!" and elif combined
also, fi and esac can actually be pronounced, how do you pronounce elihw? :P
 
"Elloo!"
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Doesn't explain why we don't have rof
 
4:34 PM
for is the worst. It even has curly braces.
 
done matches do. od is octal dump already.
@Dennis How?
 
Bash for loops are the reason I keep trying to get powershell to work
 
I've always been using do/done with for.
 
And that is the right (but ungolfy) way. I don't think it's even documented.
 
4:37 PM
Also if foo vs if [foo] vs if [[foo]], always forget
 
that's the same thing three times, just that the first one isn't a syntax error like the other two
 
Neither of the three is a syntax error.
 
the brackets aren't correctly spaced out though...
 
Still not a syntax error.
 
.-. I'm even more confused now
 
4:41 PM
technically a name error, yeah
 
Ah, command not found
 
unless /usr/bin/[foo] is a thing
 
I can use braces in a Bash for loop? This is life-changing.
 
or you're crazy and alias [foo] to be the same as echo http://youtu.be/dqw4w9wgxcq
 
@EriktheOutgolfer cnf error. It's not a variable.
 
4:44 PM
> Video unavailable
:( I was hoping for a rickroll
 
So you got tricked into thinking it was a rickroll?
 
lol
nowhere did I say that's a guaranteed rickroll
 
Yes, I call it a reverse rick roll, also known as a llorkcir, or an RRR
 
you did notice everything is in lowercase, right?
@Dennis except that non-existent variables don't produce errors
echo $yahoo will print out the huge nothingness that surrounds everything
 
@betseg I can't wait for that to happen in the US
 
4:48 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah but cnf is still not a name error
 
that's...a separate language by consensus :P
 
set -u then.
 
</mild_joke>
and it doesn't make any sense that set -u actually sets and set +u unsets, where is the logic?
 
Why can't it be set at the beginning?
 
4:53 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Because the flag is -u
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Where is the logic in implementing curly braces for one kind of control flow?
 
I've always wondered how much of bash's awfullnes comes from bash and how much comes from bourne shell
The for loop braces, at least, are a bash thing.
Although they do work in zsh
While we're talking about bash and braces, what's the difference between ( foo; bar ) and { foo; bar }?
 
The latter is a syntax error.
 
._. wait
 
Also, (...) spawns a subshell, {...} does not.
 
4:57 PM
How do you do {} then, if what I wrote errors
Oh they just have to be on multiple lines
Well, that's a bit hard in chat
 
Or just put a ; after bar.
 
,_, why, bash
I should probably just install fish and forget about all this
> fish is fully scriptable, and its syntax is simple, clean, and consistent. You'll never write esac again.
Fucking sold.
 
5:13 PM
Specifically, with a distributed search engine on top of IPFS.
 
5:37 PM
What does it mean for a scripting language to be scriptable?
 
5:48 PM
@feersum Yo dawg ...
 
5:59 PM
Scripting while I'm scripting... reflection perhaps?
 
6:11 PM
In your opinion, What is the best golfing language to work with arrays? What is the best golfing language for ascii art?
 
How is that off-topic? That's about as on-topic as this room ever gets :P
 
just in case :v
 
MATL and Charcoal, maybe?
 
@LuisfelipeDejesusMunoz I'd say Jelly/05AB1E or MATL (Jelly/osabie for arrays, MATL for matrixes) and Charcoal/Canvas/V
Although V usually loses to Charcoal sadly...
 
Anonymous
6:32 PM
@LuisfelipeDejesusMunoz Not a golflang, but APL is fantastic for array manipulation (and is very concise!)
 
6:59 PM
@Mego reveal, Adám!
:P
 
If I'm building out a system to manage credential-level ACLs, should I expose a way to alter those ACLs for a given credential or just expect that a new credential is created with the additional permissions?
 
@Dennis you can go on like that forever :P
 
8:01 PM
Woah, haven't seen TNB this active in a while.
 
 
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9:11 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

kaineBreaking into 3 Palindromes: As discussed here, every positive integer can be written as the sum of 3 palindrome integers. Given a number n, output these integers. Challenge This is a code golf challenge. The shortest piece of code wins. The input number "n" will be any integer greater th...

 
9:33 PM
Hey, NSP is working!
 
10:19 PM
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Q: Asking for help on StackOverflow

int6hI have the shortest answer in my language on a particular challenge at PPCG@StackExchange. I am struggling with a particular part of a program and I want some help. Is it appropriate/allowed/okay to ask for help at StackOverflow if I mention in the beginning that the problem is from a specific ch...

 
@Neil crap :|
 
@Zacharý Kinda
That's not the real NSP
It's an external rss feed that someone's running that scrapes the sandbox
 
@Pavel someone in SO?
 
Someone here
 
how did they get access to the real NSP's account though
or is that another bot account that's not NSP
 
10:30 PM
@ASCII-only You can set feed bots to arbitrary rss feeds
(Well, ROs and mods can)
 
10:41 PM
@Pavel wait. NSP is a feedbot? :O
 
10:52 PM
@ASCII-only Yeah, they all are
We don't have any "actual" bots
 
11:22 PM
'S it you, @Pavel?
 
11:37 PM
No
 

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