The Nineteenth Byte

Mr. Xcoder

19:05

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A: Mario Kart Scoring w/ Ties

Proton, 62 bytes (s,p)=>[sum(p[s.index(i)to][to s.count(i)])/s.count(i)for i:s] Try it online!

Business Cat

Why do people upvote Bubblegum answers

Mr. Xcoder

Because it's a dumb language

And of course because it's made by him

Conor O'Brien

why do people upvote trivial brainfuck substitutions, memey answers, unary answers, etc.? the world may never know

Mr. Xcoder

why do people upvote Wordfuck?

Conor O'Brien

> trivial brainfuck substitutions

Leaky Nun

19:16

why do we ask questions?

Mr. Xcoder

>_>

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun because we don't have answers

Business Cat

I don't see a problem with brainfuck substitutions as long as its well golfed brainfuck

MD XF

I only have a problem when someone ports an existing trivial brainf**k substitution to another longer one

Leaky Nun

26

Q: #OctothorpeAsciiArt

An Octothorpe, (also called number sign, hash or hashtag, or pound sign) is the following ASCII character: # Isn't that a fun shape? Lets make bigger versions of it! So here is your challenge: Given a positive integer N, output an ASCII hashtag of size N. For example, an ASCII hashtag of...

name a language and I'll try to answer it

Business Cat

19:17

Malbolge

Mr. Xcoder

^

Leaky Nun

I'll reject outright any intentionally difficult request

such as Malbolge or Hexagony

Mr. Xcoder

Hexagony

@LeakyNun Is the above reasonable enough?

Anonymous

@LeakyNun J

Business Cat

><>

Leaky Nun

19:19

@Mego there are already 2 answers in J

one of which I golfed to 19 bytes

@BusinessCat @_@

dzaima

@BusinessCat the problem is that sometimes it isn't golfed at all but is still upvoted more than actual competing entries

Mr. Xcoder

@LeakyNun C++

Leaky Nun

I've already decided on a language

Mr. Xcoder

@LeakyNun Which?

Leaky Nun

@Mr.Xcoder you'll know :P

Mr. Xcoder

19:20

oh

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Oh, I didn't actually open the challenge. F#.NET, then.

Business Cat

I notice there's no Retina solution

Mr. Xcoder

@Mego Any chance to solve it in Actually?

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder Probably

Anonymous

But Actually is terrible at ascii art

Mr. Xcoder

19:22

@Mego What is its forte?

Leaky Nun

my chosen language has been mentioned

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder It's decent at math. It's more of a general-purpose golfing language at this point

Mr. Xcoder

Prolly ><> or Hexagony

@Mego Nice. I only have 1 answer in Actually, a trivial math-related challenge

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun pyramid scheme

Mr. Xcoder

He has decided

Anonymous

19:25

It's probably Retina

Mr. Xcoder

Retina was not mentioned before he decided

Conor O'Brien

I can still mention it

Anonymous

So? He only said it was mentioned after he decided

Mr. Xcoder

ok

Conor O'Brien

I was suggesting more than guessing

AdmBorkBork

19:27

Prelude

Mr. Xcoder

@LeakyNun Link us when you're done

F#

D

Leaky Nun

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A: #OctothorpeAsciiArt

Actually, 34 bytes 5r2@♀%@♀α♂i⌠" #"E⌡M╗╜⌠╝╜⌠╛kM⌡MΣ⌡Mi Try it online!

Mr. Xcoder

Ah, I was working on a solution too. Willing to see what I GET.

Business Cat

Jeez, he wasn't kidding when he said it was terrible at ASCII art

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat maybe it's just me terrible at golfing

AdmBorkBork

19:43

that was weird

I tried to star something on the starboard, got the error bar to popup, so I clicked the refresh button on the browser and it took me to Area51

Leaky Nun

@Mr.Xcoder I won't trade beauty for 1 byte

Mr. Xcoder

@LeakyNun >_>

@LeakyNun Do you know how to make A -> [A] in actually?

mınxomaτ

@AdmBorkBork Yep, database server glitching out again it seems.

Leaky Nun

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A: Going to chat.stackexchange.com takes me to Area 51?

I broke it. I just unbroke it. Sorry!

@Mr.Xcoder <1><list>

Mr. Xcoder

?

AdmBorkBork

19:46

@LeakyNun best bugfix commit ever

Mr. Xcoder

@LeakyNun What? I don't understand.

Leaky Nun

@Mr.Xcoder 1╟

Mr. Xcoder

Thanks

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Probably not. I'll take a look at it in a moment.

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder # or 1╟, depending on whether or not A is an iterable.

Mr. Xcoder

19:50

Thanks

@Mego Why does '#*' 0ß*+2*+1╟0ß* print [' #### #### #### #### #### #### #### ####'] and not [' #### ####',' #### ####'], blah blah and how could I do that?

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino since proton is pretty much golfy python, why do you have weird ungolfy slicing? :P

Step Hen

@totallyhuman probably because colons are for ?:

ppperry

and it's only one byte longer than standard slicing anyway

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman @StepHen @ppperry Want to come to Proton and solve some CMCs

?

totallyhuman

@ppperry not always

ppperry

19:57

@totallyhuman give me an example

Mr. Xcoder

@ppperry Or 2

totallyhuman

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A: Mario Kart Scoring w/ Ties

Proton, 62 bytes (s,p)=>[sum(p[s.index(i)to][to s.count(i)])/s.count(i)for i:s] Try it online! Proton, 63 bytes (s,p)=>map(i=>sum(p[s.index(i)to][to s.count(i)])/s.count(i),s) Try it online!

ppperry

oh, I see

totallyhuman

the second to

Mr. Xcoder

@ppperry [:s.count], [to s.count]

ppperry

19:57

yah

I had forgotten that

Step Hen

@ppperry python is [n:n:n], proton is [n to n by n]

ppperry

I knew that

Mr. Xcoder

1 min ago, by Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman @StepHen @ppperry Want to come to Proton and solve some CMCs

Riker

@Almo a misuser of flags

Mr. Xcoder

What a change in wording :)

ppperry

19:59

@Mr.Xcoder Sure

totallyhuman

lol

could you link me to proton?

i don't have it

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/63945/proton

totallyhuman

thenk

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder '#* is "#"*input(). ' 0ß* is " "*(first_input) (the 0 can be dropped here). + concatenates them. 2* repeats the string twice (τ can be used instead). The next + doesn't seem to do anything. 1╟ pushes that string into a one-element list, and 0ß* (once again, the 0 is unnecessary) repeats that element first_input times.

Mr. Xcoder

@Mego Thanks!

Conor O'Brien

20:02

CMC: print range from 1 to N separated by spaces

Mr. Xcoder

@ConorO'Brien Pyth, 5 bytes: jd`MS

Poke

@Poke omg there was a followup

Mr. Xcoder

Or jdm`h

Poke

hahahaha

Challenger5

CJam, 7: {,:)S*}

AdmBorkBork

20:05

@ConorO'Brien param($n)"$(1..$n)"

Step Hen

@ConorO'Brien cQuents, 5 bytes: | ::$

Challenger5

This could be done in Jelly in 2 bytes. I know it has builtins for it...

Leaky Nun

@Challenger5 yes I can confirm

Challenger5

Jelly, 2 bytes: RK

Hey, no Unicode!

Business Cat

Also 2 in Gaia

2 bytes: ┅ṡ

Lots of Unicode

New Main Posts

20:07

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Q: Print chess board in terminal

Write a program that would print a final chess board after given sequence of moves. You should only use BASH, but you can start any interpreter with it (e.g. python -c '...'), just don't use the internet. The starting board looks like this: 8|♜|♞|♝|♛|♚|♝|♞|♜ 7|♟|♟|♟|♟|♟|♟|♟|♟ 6| | | | | | | | ...

code-golf unicode bash

Poke

I guess -8 is greater than -6

AdmBorkBork

Ooof

Anonymous

@ConorO'Brien Actually, 4 bytes: R' j

Anonymous

Ri■⌂ also works for 4 but it's uglier.

dzaima

@ConorO'Brien SOGL, 3 bytes: Δ@∑

totallyhuman

20:14

i fear everybody's getting lost in golflangs D: lambda n:' '.join(map(str,range(1,n+1))

Anonymous

@totallyhuman print(*range(1,int(input())+1)) is shorter

totallyhuman

eh... too python3 :P

Anonymous

for i in range(input()):print-~i,

Anonymous

Happy now? :P

totallyhuman

:P

Challenger5

20:27

That only works in Python 2 though...

totallyhuman

...that was the point of that, no?

and i finally got that 50th upvote on my answer yay

Riker

nj

totallyhuman

nj?

Conor O'Brien

"nice job"

Challenger5

question How do you add a language to TIO?

Conor O'Brien

20:31

ask dennis in this room

Almo

@Riker :D

orlp

21:04

2

someone make this a challenge

mınxomaτ

(module
  (memory (export "mem") 1)
  (func (export "accumulate") (param $ptr i32) (param $length i32) …))

I'm convinced this whole WASM thing is an evil plot to bring LISP to the browser.

Zacharý

o_o. Don't even joke about math like that, ever.

Step Hen

@Zacharý * until you tenure

MD XF

What's a good Unicode character for eval?

Conor O'Brien

e

MD XF

21:11

... preferably a non-ASCII, fancy-looking Unicode symbol

Step Hen

@MDXF 🏃

totallyhuman

what

trichoplax

"run"

Makes sense to me

totallyhuman

ಠ_ಠ :P

MD XF

Makes sense

But too cheesy lol

Step Hen

21:12

can't promise everyone will have it in their fonts :P

totallyhuman

i would never put an emoji in my code page though

Conor O'Brien

maybe ᚱ for "run"

MD XF

@StepHen I don't :P

trichoplax

Just add a comment in the code // Blame Step Hen for this choice

MD XF

@ConorO'Brien I like it

what's its Unicode value?

Step Hen

21:13

@MDXF or this R: Ꭱ

Conor O'Brien

ᚱ	runic letter raido rad reid r	013261	5809	0x16B1	&#5809;

totallyhuman

rad

Mr. Xcoder

21:36

:o You can vote to reopen your own post :o

trichoplax

21:48

You can vote to close your own post too...

Mr. Xcoder

That I know

trichoplax

Only once though

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I got a Quattuorquinquagintillion Problems, but my terminal size ain't one. code-golfkolmogorov-complexitystring Given no input, print the following exact text of names for big numbers, with or without a trailing newline: million billion trillion quadrillion quintillion sextillion septillion...

totallyhuman

that's a... lot of problems

oh bubblegum is gonna wreck this challenge

Stewie Griffin

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A: Should every question be sandboxed?

NO! I'm one of the 5 users that have the Socratic badge, so I'd consider myself fairly experienced when it comes to writing challenges. I'm afraid I will sound like an arrogant jerk here, but this is what I mean: Yes, some challenges are not flawless. Accept that they are posted on main, or lo...

Thoughts? ^^

Step Hen

22:06

@trichoplax what, can someone else vote to close a post twice?

totallyhuman

@StepHen no universally every question has a 2 vote ratio with a user

trichoplax

@StepHen No, once only applies to everyone

Step Hen

that's what I thought

totallyhuman

my message sounds stupid

trichoplax

@StewieGriffin I've also just answered that question, with what sounds like the opposite meaning to yours, but I do include a section saying I don't think that it should be mandatory. I just disagree with discouraging people from using the sandbox as I think it's very useful even for experienced users (for the reasons in my answer plus all the previously mentioned reasons in Peter Taylor's answer).

Step Hen

22:10

@totallyhuman that was my other, not-so-good question idea that was roughly the same

totallyhuman

ye

but summing the codepoints should still be fine right?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman you mean the unicode thing you did earlier?

New Main Posts

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Q: The Third String

Given two strings, output a third string that is not equal to either of the two inputs, but has the same length of either of the inputs. There is guaranteed to be at least one valid output. Test Cases Test cases are quoted to show they are strings. Outputs are one of many possible. input, input -

code-golf string

Step Hen

@totallyhuman anything that you can output you have to handle as valid input

totallyhuman

...well i suppose at one point it would be too big

Step Hen

22:14

@totallyhuman that's the error I found for the CMC, it would go to a 3-length string at some point given 2 4-length strings

@AdmBorkBork codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/43762

PhiNotPi

monthly music drop: soundcloud.com/phinotpi/coniferous written in normal 4/4 this time

totallyhuman

@StepHen wait, equal byte length or equal char length?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman Char, it's a string

totallyhuman

...that doesn't matter

Step Hen

@totallyhuman Try it online!

Mr. Xcoder

22:22

@StepHen Can our answers work, in theory, but memory error for anything larger than 4 characters?

Nevermind

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder I'm curious as to where that came from :P

totallyhuman

@StepHen because that's len

Downgoat

CMC: take a list of integers and output 1) median 2) mean 3) stddev

totallyhuman

strings are deep down bytes either way

Step Hen

@totallyhuman is len not the same as the length of a string?

Mr. Xcoder

22:23

@StepHen Lexicographical alphabet permutations

totallyhuman

@StepHen len is character length

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat What is stddev?

totallyhuman

and it's supposed to be

@Mr.Xcoder standard deviation

Downgoat

@Mr.Xcoder standard deviantation

Step Hen

@totallyhuman why wasn't this brought up in Sandbox >.<

totallyhuman

22:24

just pick chars if you want to get rid of the unicode thing

Step Hen

@totallyhuman OP was edited to say chars ~~a while~~ 4 minutes ago

totallyhuman

cool

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen The question stands (I realised it is great for golfing)

totallyhuman

so i could mod by 255 or something

and then it should be valid

i think

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder um you'd have to give me a bit more information (why it would memory error) but I'd say probably no, at least not that short

I know that's vague

but I need more info

Mr. Xcoder

22:29

@StepHen For example, if the first string is 3 chars, the program produces:

['abc', 'abd', 'abe', 'abf', 'abg', 'abh', 'abi', 'abj', 'abk', 'abl', 'abm', 'abn', 'abo', 'abp', 'abq', 'abr', 'abs', 'abt', 'abu', 'abv', 'abw', 'abx', 'aby', 'abz', 'acb', 'acd', 'ace', 'acf', 'acg', 'ach', 'aci', 'acj', 'ack', 'acl', 'acm', 'acn', 'aco', 'acp', 'acq', 'acr', 'acs', 'act', 'acu', 'acv', 'acw', 'acx', 'acy', 'acz', 'adb', 'adc', 'ade', 'adf', 'adg', 'adh', 'adi', 'adj', 'adk', 'adl', 'adm', 'adn', 'ado', 'adp', 'adq', 'adr', 'ads', 'adt', 'adu', 'adv', 'adw', 'adx', 'ady', 'adz', 'aeb', 'aec', 'aed', 'aef', 'aeg', 'aeh', 'aei', 'aej', 'aek', 'ael', 'aem', 'aen', 'aeo', '…

Sorry, my computer memory-errored when I pasted

And picks the first string that is not equal to either of the strings.

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder I'll say it has to work for at least up to input length 6. Failing for 3 or 4 seems too early.

sorry :(

Mr. Xcoder

Ok, I would do the same

sandbox.open.wolframcloud.com/app/objects/…

Pavel

@Mr.Xcoder That's a 403 Forbidden

Mr. Xcoder

Nope

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder for me it is :P

Mr. Xcoder

22:40

Not for me

Crappy Mathematica

flawr

@Downgoat /r/TotallyNotGoats/

Downgoat

@flawr omg

Conor O'Brien

I feel like downgoat either founded that or was born there

flawr

23:02

why not both?

totallyhuman

23:22

how would that work :o

Conor O'Brien

23:43

his birth initiated the foundation

totallyhuman

23:56

>:U that makes no sense

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