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@dzaima do
@DJMcMayhem ÚjV}kd?
@dzaima post your benchmark of 300 bytes but don't mention gzip.
@Cowsquack Yeah, but what if there are 1, 2, or 3 values?
If nobody beats your benchmark or finds the intended pattern after 2 days I'd bounty it, but yeah man that was hard.
Wait, 3 is fine
20:01
I mean when you split it into pieces of 8 bytes there's only like 14 unique characters... but that only got me to ~1.4k
ÚïV}kd works for 2+ values at 6 bytes
But not for 1
then I'd have to resort to ÚïïV}kd at 7 bytes
wait our solutions are similar
conflict: I want to post a question but if it gets >2 upvotes then I'll cap and start losing rep. but if I don't post it, I risk not being able to cap xD
@Cowsquack Adds a newline for 2+ inputs
20:04
confus
@HyperNeutrino wait til tomorrow
yeah but then I risk not capping xD
then again 10 rep in 4 hours is easy lol
oh man i am doing good today
hey SO sent me a notification asking me to vote in the election
say no
refuse
20:05
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

xnorNested list unpacking code-golf In Python 3.5+, the * operator can unpack a list within a list. [1,*[2,3,4],5] == [1,2,3,4,5] The unpacked elements are placed directly into the outer list without increasing the list depth. Note that this is different from the nested three-element list [1,...

@DJMcMayhem ah, that's why you use the Ï
they are brainwashing everybody
@MagicOctopusUrn not sure I understand what do you mean by my benchmark, I've not set any (but yeah, I've thought of giving a bounty for my solution or better)
@Cowsquack Exactly
@HyperNeutrino happened to everyone
20:06
ik :P
at least those who use SO
there is a PPCGer in the election
@Cowsquack cody gray?
I voted for him
I'm probably not going to vote because I don't use SO often enough for my opinion to be a well-thought one.
well whaddya know I got that upvote lol
now I have 4 hours to go before I can start getting rep ಠ_ಠ
20:07
/o_o why are you asking for a cap then
@HyperNeutrino its magic what happens when you ask! ;)
@HyperNeutrino what are you talking about?
@NewSandboxedPosts is one of my most favourite tags
@dzamia by benchmark I mean post the ball-park of the expected optimized byte-count
@Cowsquack "that upvote" as in the thing that let me reach the cap
20:09
(you had it in the comments of the sandbox post as 300bytes)
@MagicOctopusUrn dzaima
I've been reaching it without having to struggle to do so for whatever reason xD The first time I capped I actually only got 196 rep :P
ooo I have a nice round rep number
20:09
@totallyhuman user was removed right when I was almost there >.< but repcaps ignore that
i don't
@totlamhyman dazimai?
@totallyhuman I can relate
@totallyhuman Oh you can directly reply to things? I'll do that from now on.
Had no idea.
reply buttons are nice
20:11
@MagicOctopusUrn 300 bytes was the result of a simple zip, not some benchmark
threading is better but...
@totallyhuman too much effort
wat is too much effort?
oh great
get caret reply
instead of breaking the tie somebody just voted fo another one
20:11
@dzaima was using the word 'benchmark' loosely.
pls i need to decide :P
@totallyhuman its on the starboard, wait for a bit
hmm what title should I use? 15 characters min :/
a hint toward the sequence
@cairdcoinheringaahing but it usually happens quick ;-;
@totallyhuman htmp
20:13
CMC: Given a positive integer n, output the representation of sqrt(n) as a * sqrt(b) with maximized a with integers a and b.
though i guess you could interact with apis too so nvm
@dzaima "Dude, where's my repitition?"
8 -> 2 2
16 -> 4 1
32 -> 4 2
@totallyhuman There isn't a single hint that I can think of that isn't either nothing or a practical solution
@HyperNeutrino lambda n:`n**.5`+' 1'
20:14
>.< I already fixed it
fixed again
lel
now there's a threeway tie?!
stop trolling me :(((
TFW your TIO link is 4,000 characters.
URL shorteners are apparently banned in chat according to someone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just use multiline
How about Where's the repetition??
Repeat repetitive repetitions
@HyperNeutrino Perfect.
wait really xD
20:20
and we have a winner!
:P
intrnt is is
Should I post this or let it die?
@SocraticPhoenix you could always donate it in the Secret Santa Sandbox
@HyperNeutrino Jelly, 17 bytes: Æf©œ^/¶ÇP,®œ-ÇP½¤ (result is reversed and has floating-point integers)
@cairdcoinheringaahing the what now? what's that?
@EriktheOutgolfer I remembered it being shorter when we first did it in JHT
20:23
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Q: Secret Santa's Sandbox

Digital TraumaAKA: The Regifting of the White Elephants Note - I'm not sure this is on-topic or not on meta, but it seems to be as good a place as any. Comment if you disagree. I have a few challenges that I have posted to the sandbox and then more-or-less forgotten. Some of these challenges are OK; some n...

yeah ik it's a starting point lol
ah ok lol
Repeating repetitive repetitions, repeated repetitively...? shows self to door
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@MagicOctopusUrn Repeat repetitions on repeating repetitively.
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Q: Calculating BPM with inputs

xNinjaKittyxProgram the shortest code that will calculate the average BPM (Beats per Minute) using 8 inputs. This is my first post, and I haven't seen a question similar to this. Since I am a fan of rhythm games, it would be nice to have a small handy tool to calculate BPM using your own keyboard and your ow...

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Repetitively repeating repetitive repetitions which repeatedly repetitively repeat
chill pill dude
o0
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Repetition is repeatedly reported by repetition reps.
hey should intrnt be capitalized?
@HyperNeutrino non-reversed version: Æfœ^/¶Æfœ-ÇP½,ÇP$
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Q: Repeat Repetitive Repetitions

dzaimaYour challenge is to generate this string: 0110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010011010110101101001101011010110101101011010110100110101101011010000110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010...

20:27
no it's the internet we're too lazy to capitalize
@EriktheOutgolfer ah ok
@totallyhuman Intrnt
could do inTrNT for TNT, or INTrnt for INT
INTERNt
let me try getting something working
maybe INTRNT like INTERCAL
20:28
@AdmBorkBork or just call it INTERN xD
great i'm gonna have to make a strawpoll for this as well o0
InTURNTdownforwhat
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Or maybe inTRnt?
iNTrnT
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Or iNTRNT
20:29
not taking ones that are not spelled the same way :P
@You I like that one
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@StepHen I just copied Apple. :P
@totallyhuman stick with the original
any others?
ok one more strawpoll incoming
20:30
@MagicOctopusUrn looks like a short version of nyan net or something
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Aw, noes, my computer is acting up with the captcha. :\
10 votes
getcha vote in quick!
:P
No it's because You are "You" which in this case is totallyhuman because that's the second person, and he's a robot (sorry to blow your cover) so you can't do the captcha because You are Him
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20:32
Aw, man.
look i can't add 2849729 and 42395879 together
that means i am human
also i got through the captcha
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@totallyhuman You can. It's just that you get an overflow.
if i were a robot i'd be 64-bit
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@totallyhuman Naw, you'ld be 2048 bit because you're from the future.
@You no, he'd be 32 bit but use java's BigInteger and BigDecimal for calculations
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20:35
@SocraticPhoenix Wait, they still use Java in the future? Whoa. My mind. is. blown.
java? had java for breakfast a week ago. was not fun
@You they still use java now, which is pretty surprising...
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@SocraticPhoenix True.
Then again, we still use all the old languages.
(that being despite the fact that Java is my favorite language... primarily because I don't really know any other languages nearly as in depth)
> Also, I am special because I program in Comic Sans. I will take over the world with computers and Comic Sans!
I'm sorry, PPCG has a strict No Horrible Fonts policy. I'm afraid you will have to leave this place :P xD /s
20:37
@SocraticPhoenix why is that surprising
@Poke because java is surprising?
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@HyperNeutrino What? Comic Sans is AMAZING!!!!! :D
@SocraticPhoenix how
shush you've enangered the Font Gods already, don't make them even madder :P lol
@Poke integer caches?
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20:38
@HyperNeutrino Is there a Comic Sans god?
@SocraticPhoenix what?
@Poke I'm not sure...
@You We call him The Devil
@SocraticPhoenix good talk ._.
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@HyperNeutrino Oh, cool! Comic Sans gets the coolest god! :D :P
20:39
._.
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He's like a Christian Hades!
hades is salty, that's all
Maybe @You are The Devil, the ruler of the cruel and evil Comic Sans
CMC: output the number of different capitalization's a given word could have.... (e.g. let n = # of letters, output 2^n) (totally not inspired by @totallyhuman's intrnt poll at all in any way)
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@HyperNeutrino Maybe that's why the captcha didn't work...
speaking of which, pls vote only has 4 votes ;-;
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Q: Case Permutation

PokeWho needs to compare things case insensitively when you're able to generate every permutation of uppercase and lowercase? No one! That's the answer. No one does. Your task is to achieve this feat; generate all possible permutations of uppercase/lowercase for a given input. Input A string of pri...

@Poke ahem... at least chat messages can't be marked as dupes :)
;)
@SocraticPhoenix Jelly: fØA;Øa¤L*@2
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@SocraticPhoenix PyRelic: $n{->2**n} :P
wait wat :o
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I answered a coding golf question in the chat with my language! I feel so proud of myself. :D
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Q: Repeat Repetitive Repetitions

dzaimaYour challenge is to generate this string: 0110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010011010110101101001101011010110101101011010110100110101101011010000110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010...

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20:46
@NewMainPosts Should we start repeating the repetitions again?
i currently have the sandbox open in a tab with the characters "# " in the answer box
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'# '
?
for the heading
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Oh.
i now have "# noot noot"
20:49
@totallyhuman progress!
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@totallyhuman NoiSHHHH!!
@SocraticPhoenix It's russian for no haha.
aw man where'd all the comments on the sandbox go
@totallyhuman NOOT NOOT.
Haaaa thanks for that, I needed a laugh.
Idea: a KotH where each program knocks out a character in the other program and the last one still functioning wins...?
:D
i dunno why i did that
@SocraticPhoenix if the language is anything reasonable, go for brackets
27482 binary fizzbuzz
but hey i have a spot preserved in the sandbox
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@SocraticPhoenix Better add a non-terminated multiline comment to the end of the program and work with a language that allows that! :P
20:57
@Riker aaw!
I just installed Maple, so the OEIS answering should be a little easier, for 1 solution :P
Why Maplé?
go opensource!
use e.g. maxima!
@flawr the OEIS pages give maple code for the sequence
I think Maxima's been used.
21:03
^^
@HyperNeutrino Guess by whom!
@HyperNeutrino yeah alephalpha used it
@flawr well can't really guess now huh :P
:D
Hah, I'm winning the non-existent code golf part of the answer chaining!
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21:05
I don't understand this.
wait what ._.
@You Apparently you click check boxes like a robot
one... more... vote...
lol
@You it detected your Comic Sans-iness
@cairdcoinheringaahing btw for your bounty I nominate SNOBOL
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21:06
@cairdcoinheringaahing Aw, man.
psst nobody vote for totallyhuman's thingy you didn't hear me
/o_o
hey there it is
I dunno how to compile it or what the syntax is but someone will find out... right?
@StepHen can't hurt to find out
21:07
alright time to get down to business
@totallyhuman whats the result of your many strawpolls?
Lol I can't vote, my VPN blocks captcha.
iNTRNT seems like it'd be a sick logo though.
@cairdcoinheringaahing intrnt
:38988096 the heck
what just happened here ._.
sorry
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21:09
@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, what if all the results in his thing are actually my queries? :P
@You that would be fun
was cleaning my keyboard
wat why
@StepHen oh I thought you were going insane
21:10
@HyperNeutrino what no
@totallyhuman Comic Sans influenced hacked the poll election
(implicit "/s")
alright moving on
@HyperNeutrino it codegolf,everything implicit
21:10
I promise you I am not going insane
@StepHen evil chuckle
@StepHen totallysane?
@totallyhuman totallycomicsane
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21:11
@StepHen I like how you edit insane to going insane, so you are already insane. :P
I am ComicinSane.
I wish there was a way to star 1 message and link to another, for jokes
feature requests for intrnt
Lmao ComicSanes. I love it.
and also pronunciation proposals
@totallyhuman archive.org
21:12
inTURNT?
intern eat?
@BlackCap needs to post 3 more OEIS answers to beat Leaky.
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@totallyhuman Pronounce like 'uturnit'?
21:13
@StepHen what about it?
@MagicOctopusUrn NO! No-one likes TMNT (jk)
What is all this internet stuff for anyway lol.
@totallyhuman some clever url compression scheme...
@MagicOctopusUrn a python library (I think)
Might be a new language
net.inter.io
lol
21:14
@totallyhuman this is your oeis-thing right? So make a golfy interface for archive.org
A language lol
Golfing libraries are pretty meh
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I want to write a reflection golfing language
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I feel like there should be a chat made specifically for the creation of new golfing languages. :P But I'm not entirely sure...
@you it exists
@You there is
21:16
@You you're in it, if you remove specifically
@You there are many
no one in PPCG really gives too much thought to anything besides TNB and maybe TIO
@cairdcoinheringaahing that's ~10 people compared to how many :P
21:17
Basically, my idea a long time ago was to turn java into a golfing languages by writing a preprocessor that identifies class names by unique identifiers... So like if you wrote Inte a = new Inte;a.toS(); it'd convert it to: Integer a = new Integer();a.toString();
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Okay, good to know that it exists and that when I ask a stupid question, 50 people will come to the rescue! :D
@You that's the whole point of chat
Still wouldn't be competitive.
Lol
@MagicOctopusUrn it'd be better than Java
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21:18
@cairdcoinheringaahing They'll also come to the rescue when I say something stupid.
@You no, then they mock you
@cairdcoinheringaahing that's not saying much
Also should I just have like an addition and primality test built-in
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@cairdcoinheringaahing ...oh. My life has been a lie.
@StepHen I can name 4 languages that are worse then Java
21:19
@You well we only do it behind your back so
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I'VE BEEN Q_A'ED! D:
Unary, Lenguage, Malbolge, ;#
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Again!
I could technically use a site online to do those...
21:20
@cairdcoinheringaahing so... there are 4, out of how many? :P aka not saying much
@StepHen those are just the ones I can name.
@totallyhuman No, everything has to use the internet, that'll be the appeal of it
Is there a way of making a Github gist completely open to anyone to edit?
@cairdcoinheringaahing google docs? :P
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Wait, so GitHub gists are not open to everyone? I thought they were.
@StepHen never used google docs
@StepHen would that be legal under ppcg law though
@You to view, not to edit
@totallyhuman not a chance
But that's not why you're making it, right?
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@cairdcoinheringaahing But isn't the whole forking functionality so then anyone can edit anything?
@You yeah, but not the original repo
21:23
Fork it, sure
The original is untouched
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But then it can be pushed back and reviewed, right?
Did I just say something ridiculously stupid that caused everyone to leave the chat?
...hello? i really am scared of the silence...
...

help meeeeeeeeeeeeee

...
21:46
Do not spam chat just because it's quiet.
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CMC: Nth (0 or 1-indexed) term of 0 -1 1 -2 2 -3 3 -4 4 -5 5…
what is ¯¯¯¯?
@flawr negative symbols, like TI-BASIC.
¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯
@Adám SOGL, 8 bytes: ∆.^.I»* (1-indexed)
21:58
(x:y)#z=x:(z#y)
((0:[1..]#[-1,-2..])!!)
APL, 5 bytes: 0-.-⍳
@Adám -_-
@flawr -.-
@Adám .^.
<(^v^)>
22:06
@flawr please...
I just posted this challenge in the sandbox, about alternating two given arrays: [a,b,c,..] [A,B,C,...] -> [a,A,b,B,c,C,...], did we already have something like that?
@flawr try searching for zipping and interleaving,and shuffling.
@flawr -.- is to minus and minus what dot/cross/inner/matrix product is to plus and times.
@Adám thanks for the suggestion
@Adám I don't understand that :)
@Adám oh there is this challenge of yours
ok it is outduped
or is it?
@flawr Hey, even I forgot I'd posted it :-)
would you consider it a dupe, I think mine is a lot easier, but obviously still very close
22:13
@flawr Why wouldn't it be a dup?
@flawr AH, mine takes even more than 2. So your's is a subset.
@Adám It seems to be a lot easier in many languages as you have two lists of the same length and only takes two of them.
@flawr Jelly: Z
Haskell: (x:y)#z=x:(z#y)
@flawr Trivial, though, except in hard-to-use langs.
So is Hello World!
Let's see what reactios I get in the SB, if I get any negatives I'll delete it.
22:16
@flawr Better as CMC.
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

flawrAlternate Two Lists code-golflists Given two lists or arrays of integers [a,b,c,...] and [A,B,C,...] of the same length, return their alternation [a,A,b,B,c,C,...]. Example [1,2,3,4,5] [10,20,30,40,50] -> [1,10,2,20,3,30,4,40] Meta: Is it considered a dupe of this challenge? I'd say it is...

@flawr Just like the cross product (+.×) of a b c and x y z is (a×x)+(b×y)+(c×z) so is -.- of a b c and x y z equal to ((a-x)-((b-y)-(c-z)))
and so is the -.- of 0 and 1 2 3 equal to ((-1)-((-2)-(-3)))
Oh that seems interesting! I first thought about the vectorial cross product which just added to the confusion
what should the memory system for intrnt be?
just plain old stack?
cookies, clearly
22:28
@totallyhuman ODATA
o0 i meant practical for golfing, not funny because it's internet :P
backing data structures are too hard. I just reference data by how many ops ago the data was produced in my lang
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@CensoredUsername That sounds like an almost-stack
it's actually pretty different
basically, eldritch embraces the fact that any new data produced is the sum of all previous state
so you are always able to reference any data produced by earlier ops, except for data inside of variable-drop sections (for/loop/call)
also, all items are immutable (although sequences have interior mutability)
sad part is intrnt will never be on TIO :c
22:39
lol true
because funnily enough, "try it online" can't access anything online
this means that common sub-expressions will never be a thing in eldritch
@totallyhuman care to join me in Hypertraining for some practice?
it also causes loops to function in a rather interesting manner
@Mego: you could see it as a stack language that never removes items from the stack

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