The Nineteenth Byte

totallyhuman

8:00 PM

@dzaima do

Cows quack

@DJMcMayhem ÚjV}kd?

Magic Octopus Urn

@dzaima post your benchmark of 300 bytes but don't mention gzip.

DJMcMayhem

@Cowsquack Yeah, but what if there are 1, 2, or 3 values?

Magic Octopus Urn

If nobody beats your benchmark or finds the intended pattern after 2 days I'd bounty it, but yeah man that was hard.

DJMcMayhem

Wait, 3 is fine

Magic Octopus Urn

8:01 PM

I mean when you split it into pieces of 8 bytes there's only like 14 unique characters... but that only got me to ~1.4k

Cows quack

ÚïV}kd works for 2+ values at 6 bytes

DJMcMayhem

But not for 1

Cows quack

then I'd have to resort to ÚïïV}kd at 7 bytes

wait our solutions are similar

HyperNeutrino

conflict: I want to post a question but if it gets >2 upvotes then I'll cap and start losing rep. but if I don't post it, I risk not being able to cap xD

DJMcMayhem

@Cowsquack Adds a newline for 2+ inputs

totallyhuman

8:04 PM

confus

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino wait til tomorrow

HyperNeutrino

yeah but then I risk not capping xD

then again 10 rep in 4 hours is easy lol

totallyhuman

oh man i am doing good today

HyperNeutrino

hey SO sent me a notification asking me to vote in the election

totallyhuman

say no

refuse

New Sandboxed Posts

8:05 PM

-1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Nested list unpacking code-golf In Python 3.5+, the * operator can unpack a list within a list. [1,*[2,3,4],5] == [1,2,3,4,5] The unpacked elements are placed directly into the outer list without increasing the list depth. Note that this is different from the nested three-element list [1,...

Cows quack

@DJMcMayhem ah, that's why you use the Ï

totallyhuman

they are brainwashing everybody

dzaima

@MagicOctopusUrn not sure I understand what do you mean by my benchmark, I've not set any (but yeah, I've thought of giving a bounty for my solution or better)

DJMcMayhem

@Cowsquack Exactly

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino happened to everyone

HyperNeutrino

8:06 PM

ik :P

at least those who use SO

Cows quack

there is a PPCGer in the election

caird coinheringaahing

@Cowsquack cody gray?

I voted for him

HyperNeutrino

I'm probably not going to vote because I don't use SO often enough for my opinion to be a well-thought one.

well whaddya know I got that upvote lol

totallyhuman

guys somebody pls break the tie ;-;

HyperNeutrino

now I have 4 hours to go before I can start getting rep ಠ_ಠ

totallyhuman

8:07 PM

/o_o why are you asking for a cap then

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino its magic what happens when you ask! ;)

Cows quack

@HyperNeutrino what are you talking about?

totallyhuman

@NewSandboxedPosts whatever-the-heck-uriel-said is one of my most favourite tags

Magic Octopus Urn

@dzamia by benchmark I mean post the ball-park of the expected optimized byte-count

HyperNeutrino

@Cowsquack "that upvote" as in the thing that let me reach the cap

Magic Octopus Urn

8:09 PM

(you had it in the comments of the sandbox post as 300bytes)

totallyhuman

@MagicOctopusUrn dzaima

HyperNeutrino

I've been reaching it without having to struggle to do so for whatever reason xD The first time I capped I actually only got 196 rep :P

totallyhuman

wat

HyperNeutrino

ooo I have a nice round rep number

totallyhuman

;-;

HyperNeutrino

8:09 PM

@totallyhuman user was removed right when I was almost there >.< but repcaps ignore that

totallyhuman

i don't

Magic Octopus Urn

@totlamhyman dazimai?

Uriel

@totallyhuman I can relate

Magic Octopus Urn

@totallyhuman Oh you can directly reply to things? I'll do that from now on.

Had no idea.

totallyhuman

reply buttons are nice

dzaima

8:11 PM

@MagicOctopusUrn 300 bytes was the result of a simple zip, not some benchmark

totallyhuman

threading is better but...

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman too much effort

totallyhuman

wat is too much effort?

oh great

HyperNeutrino

get caret reply

totallyhuman

instead of breaking the tie somebody just voted fo another one

Magic Octopus Urn

8:11 PM

@dzaima was using the word 'benchmark' loosely.

totallyhuman

pls i need to decide :P

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman its on the starboard, wait for a bit

dzaima

hmm what title should I use? 15 characters min :/

totallyhuman

a hint toward the sequence

@cairdcoinheringaahing but it usually happens quick ;-;

Poke

@totallyhuman htmp

HyperNeutrino

8:13 PM

CMC: Given a positive integer n, output the representation of sqrt(n) as a * sqrt(b) with maximized a with integers a and b.

Poke

though i guess you could interact with apis too so nvm

Magic Octopus Urn

@dzaima "Dude, where's my repitition?"

HyperNeutrino

8 -> 2 2
16 -> 4 1
32 -> 4 2

dzaima

@totallyhuman There isn't a single hint that I can think of that isn't either nothing or a practical solution

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino lambda n:`n**.5`+' 1'

HyperNeutrino

8:14 PM

>.< I already fixed it

totallyhuman

oh

HyperNeutrino

fixed again

totallyhuman

lel

now there's a threeway tie?!

HyperNeutrino

stop trolling me :(((

Magic Octopus Urn

TFW your TIO link is 4,000 characters.

Erik the Outgolfer

8:16 PM

v.ht

HyperNeutrino

URL shorteners are apparently banned in chat according to someone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just use multiline

dzaima

How about Where's the repetition??

HyperNeutrino

Repeat repetitive repetitions

dzaima

@HyperNeutrino Perfect.

HyperNeutrino

wait really xD

totallyhuman

8:20 PM

and we have a winner!

:P

intrnt is is

Socratic Phoenix

Should I post this or let it die?

caird coinheringaahing

@SocraticPhoenix you could always donate it in the Secret Santa Sandbox

Erik the Outgolfer

@HyperNeutrino Jelly, 17 bytes: Æf©œ^/¶ÇP,®œ-ÇP½¤ (result is reversed and has floating-point integers)

Socratic Phoenix

@cairdcoinheringaahing the what now? what's that?

HyperNeutrino

@EriktheOutgolfer I remembered it being shorter when we first did it in JHT

caird coinheringaahing

8:23 PM

29

Q: Secret Santa's Sandbox

AKA: The Regifting of the White Elephants Note - I'm not sure this is on-topic or not on meta, but it seems to be as good a place as any. Comment if you disagree. I have a few challenges that I have posted to the sandbox and then more-or-less forgotten. Some of these challenges are OK; some n...

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah ik it's a starting point lol

HyperNeutrino

ah ok lol

Magic Octopus Urn

Repeating repetitive repetitions, repeated repetitively...? shows self to door

You

@MagicOctopusUrn Repeat repetitions on repeating repetitively.

New Main Posts

0

Q: Calculating BPM with inputs

Program the shortest code that will calculate the average BPM (Beats per Minute) using 8 inputs. This is my first post, and I haven't seen a question similar to this. Since I am a fan of rhythm games, it would be nice to have a small handy tool to calculate BPM using your own keyboard and your ow...

code-golf

HyperNeutrino

8:25 PM

Repetitively repeating repetitive repetitions which repeatedly repetitively repeat

totallyhuman

chill pill dude

o0

You

Repetition is repeatedly reported by repetition reps.

totallyhuman

hey should intrnt be capitalized?

Erik the Outgolfer

@HyperNeutrino non-reversed version: Æfœ^/¶Æfœ-ÇP½,ÇP$

dzaima

0

Q: Repeat Repetitive Repetitions

Your challenge is to generate this string: 0110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010011010110101101001101011010110101101011010110100110101101011010000110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010...

code-golf kolmogorov-complexity

HyperNeutrino

8:27 PM

no it's the internet we're too lazy to capitalize

@EriktheOutgolfer ah ok

Socratic Phoenix

@totallyhuman Intrnt

Step Hen

could do inTrNT for TNT, or INTrnt for INT

AdmBorkBork

INTERNt

HyperNeutrino

let me try getting something working

Socratic Phoenix

maybe INTRNT like INTERCAL

Step Hen

8:28 PM

@AdmBorkBork or just call it INTERN xD

totallyhuman

great i'm gonna have to make a strawpoll for this as well o0

InTURNTdownforwhat

Or maybe inTRnt?

iNTrnT

Or iNTRNT

8:29 PM

not taking ones that are not spelled the same way :P

Step Hen

@You I like that one

You

@StepHen I just copied Apple. :P

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman stick with the original

Magic Octopus Urn

nyet*

totallyhuman

any others?

ok one more strawpoll incoming

Socratic Phoenix

8:30 PM

@MagicOctopusUrn looks like a short version of nyan net or something

totallyhuman

How should "intrnt" be capitalized?

You

Aw, noes, my computer is acting up with the captcha. :\

totallyhuman

10 votes

getcha vote in quick!

:P

HyperNeutrino

No it's because You are "You" which in this case is totallyhuman because that's the second person, and he's a robot (sorry to blow your cover) so you can't do the captcha because You are Him

totallyhuman

wat no

You

8:32 PM

Aw, man.

totallyhuman

look i can't add 2849729 and 42395879 together

that means i am human

also i got through the captcha

You

@totallyhuman You can. It's just that you get an overflow.

totallyhuman

if i were a robot i'd be 64-bit

You

@totallyhuman Naw, you'ld be 2048 bit because you're from the future.

Socratic Phoenix

@You no, he'd be 32 bit but use java's BigInteger and BigDecimal for calculations

You

8:35 PM

@SocraticPhoenix Wait, they still use Java in the future? Whoa. My mind. is. blown.

totallyhuman

java? had java for breakfast a week ago. was not fun

Socratic Phoenix

@You they still use java now, which is pretty surprising...

You

@SocraticPhoenix True.

Then again, we still use all the old languages.

Socratic Phoenix

(that being despite the fact that Java is my favorite language... primarily because I don't really know any other languages nearly as in depth)

HyperNeutrino

> Also, I am special because I program in Comic Sans. I will take over the world with computers and Comic Sans!

I'm sorry, PPCG has a strict No Horrible Fonts policy. I'm afraid you will have to leave this place :P xD /s

Poke

8:37 PM

@SocraticPhoenix why is that surprising

Socratic Phoenix

@Poke because java is surprising?

You

@HyperNeutrino What? Comic Sans is AMAZING!!!!! :D

Poke

@SocraticPhoenix how

HyperNeutrino

shush you've enangered the Font Gods already, don't make them even madder :P lol

Socratic Phoenix

@Poke integer caches?

You

8:38 PM

@HyperNeutrino Is there a Comic Sans god?

Poke

@SocraticPhoenix what?

Socratic Phoenix

@Poke I'm not sure...

HyperNeutrino

@You We call him The Devil

Poke

@SocraticPhoenix good talk ._.

You

@HyperNeutrino Oh, cool! Comic Sans gets the coolest god! :D :P

HyperNeutrino

8:39 PM

._.

totallyhuman

._.

You

He's like a Christian Hades!

totallyhuman

hades is salty, that's all

HyperNeutrino

Maybe @You are The Devil, the ruler of the cruel and evil Comic Sans

Socratic Phoenix

CMC: output the number of different capitalization's a given word could have.... (e.g. let n = # of letters, output 2^n) (totally not inspired by @totallyhuman's intrnt poll at all in any way)

You

8:40 PM

@HyperNeutrino Maybe that's why the captcha didn't work...

totallyhuman

speaking of which, pls vote only has 4 votes ;-;

Poke

24

Q: Case Permutation

Who needs to compare things case insensitively when you're able to generate every permutation of uppercase and lowercase? No one! That's the answer. No one does. Your task is to achieve this feat; generate all possible permutations of uppercase/lowercase for a given input. Input A string of pri...

code-golf string permutations

Socratic Phoenix

@Poke ahem... at least chat messages can't be marked as dupes :)

Poke

;)

HyperNeutrino

@SocraticPhoenix Jelly: fØA;Øa¤L*@2

You

8:45 PM

@SocraticPhoenix PyRelic: $n{->2**n} :P

>.<

._.

wait wat :o

I answered a coding golf question in the chat with my language! I feel so proud of myself. :D

New Main Posts

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Q: Repeat Repetitive Repetitions

Your challenge is to generate this string: 0110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010011010110101101001101011010110101101011010110100110101101011010000110101101011010011010110101101011010110101101001101011010110100110101101011010110101101011010...

code-golf kolmogorov-complexity

You

8:46 PM

@NewMainPosts Should we start repeating the repetitions again?

totallyhuman

i currently have the sandbox open in a tab with the characters "# " in the answer box

You

'# '

?

totallyhuman

for the heading

You

Oh.

totallyhuman

i now have "# noot noot"

Socratic Phoenix

8:49 PM

@totallyhuman progress!

You

@totallyhuman NoiSHHHH!!

Magic Octopus Urn

@SocraticPhoenix It's russian for no haha.

totallyhuman

aw man where'd all the comments on the sandbox go

Magic Octopus Urn

@totallyhuman NOOT NOOT.

Haaaa thanks for that, I needed a laugh.

Socratic Phoenix

Idea: a KotH where each program knocks out a character in the other program and the last one still functioning wins...?

Riker

8:56 PM

@flawr nutiminn.is/kattarshians

totallyhuman

:D

i dunno why i did that

Jan Dvorak

@SocraticPhoenix if the language is anything reasonable, go for brackets

AdmBorkBork

27482 binary fizzbuzz

totallyhuman

but hey i have a spot preserved in the sandbox

You

@SocraticPhoenix Better add a non-terminated multiline comment to the end of the program and work with a language that allows that! :P

flawr

8:57 PM

@Riker aaw!

totallyhuman

let loose your vote clickers

caird coinheringaahing

I just installed Maple, so the OEIS answering should be a little easier, for 1 solution :P

flawr

Why Maplé?

go opensource!

use e.g. maxima!

caird coinheringaahing

@flawr the OEIS pages give maple code for the sequence

HyperNeutrino

I think Maxima's been used.

Step Hen

9:03 PM

^^

flawr

@HyperNeutrino Guess by whom!

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino yeah alephalpha used it

HyperNeutrino

@flawr well can't really guess now huh :P

flawr

:D

caird coinheringaahing

Hah, I'm winning the non-existent code golf part of the answer chaining!

You

9:05 PM

I don't understand this.

HyperNeutrino

wait what ._.

Step Hen

@You Apparently you click check boxes like a robot

totallyhuman

one... more... vote...

lol

caird coinheringaahing

@You it detected your Comic Sans-iness

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing btw for your bounty I nominate SNOBOL

You

9:06 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Aw, man.

HyperNeutrino

psst nobody vote for totallyhuman's thingy you didn't hear me

totallyhuman

/o_o

hey there it is

Step Hen

I dunno how to compile it or what the syntax is but someone will find out... right?

totallyhuman

haha

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen can't hurt to find out

totallyhuman

9:07 PM

alright time to get down to business

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman whats the result of your many strawpolls?

Magic Octopus Urn

Lol I can't vote, my VPN blocks captcha.

iNTRNT seems like it'd be a sick logo though.

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing intrnt

:38988096 the heck

HyperNeutrino

what just happened here ._.

Step Hen

sorry

You

9:09 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, what if all the results in his thing are actually my queries? :P

caird coinheringaahing

@You that would be fun

Step Hen

was cleaning my keyboard

caird coinheringaahing

Redo the poll

totallyhuman

wat why

HyperNeutrino

@StepHen oh I thought you were going insane

Step Hen

9:10 PM

@HyperNeutrino what no

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Comic Sans ~~influenced~~ hacked the ~~poll~~ election

totallyhuman

uhh

HyperNeutrino

(implicit "/s")

totallyhuman

alright moving on

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino it codegolf,everything implicit

Step Hen

9:10 PM

I promise you I am not going insane

HyperNeutrino

:P

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen evil chuckle

totallyhuman

@StepHen totallysane?

Step Hen

@totallyhuman totallycomicsane

HyperNeutrino

ಠ_ಠ

You

9:11 PM

@StepHen I like how you edit insane to going insane, so you are already insane. :P

I am ComicinSane.

caird coinheringaahing

I wish there was a way to star 1 message and link to another, for jokes

totallyhuman

feature requests for intrnt

Magic Octopus Urn

Lmao ComicSanes. I love it.

totallyhuman

and also pronunciation proposals

Step Hen

@totallyhuman archive.org

totallyhuman

9:12 PM

inTURNT?

flawr

intern eat?

dzaima

^^

caird coinheringaahing

@BlackCap needs to post 3 more OEIS answers to beat Leaky.

You

@totallyhuman Pronounce like 'uturnit'?

Magic Octopus Urn

inTMNT?

totallyhuman

9:13 PM

@StepHen what about it?

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn NO! No-one likes TMNT (jk)

Magic Octopus Urn

What is all this internet stuff for anyway lol.

Socratic Phoenix

@totallyhuman some clever url compression scheme...

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn a python library (I think)

Might be a new language

Magic Octopus Urn

net.inter.io

lol

Step Hen

9:14 PM

@totallyhuman this is your oeis-thing right? So make a golfy interface for archive.org

totallyhuman

A language lol

Golfing libraries are pretty meh

4

Magic Octopus Urn

I want to write a reflection golfing language

You

I feel like there should be a chat made specifically for the creation of new golfing languages. :P But I'm not entirely sure...

caird coinheringaahing

@you it exists

Socratic Phoenix

@You there is

Step Hen

9:16 PM

@You you're in it, if you remove specifically

flawr

@You there are many

caird coinheringaahing

@You chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/60252/language-development

Step Hen

no one in PPCG really gives too much thought to anything besides TNB and maybe TIO

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen JHT?

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's ~10 people compared to how many :P

Magic Octopus Urn

9:17 PM

Basically, my idea a long time ago was to turn java into a golfing languages by writing a preprocessor that identifies class names by unique identifiers... So like if you wrote Inte a = new Inte;a.toS(); it'd convert it to: Integer a = new Integer();a.toString();

You

Okay, good to know that it exists and that when I ask a stupid question, 50 people will come to the rescue! :D

caird coinheringaahing

@You that's the whole point of chat

Magic Octopus Urn

Still wouldn't be competitive.

Lol

Step Hen

caird coinheringaahing

@MagicOctopusUrn it'd be better than Java

You

9:18 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing They'll also come to the rescue when I say something stupid.

caird coinheringaahing

@You no, then they mock you

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's not saying much

totallyhuman

Also should I just have like an addition and primality test built-in

You

@cairdcoinheringaahing ...oh. My life has been a lie.

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen I can name 4 languages that are worse then Java

Step Hen

9:19 PM

@You well we only do it behind your back so

You

I'VE BEEN Q_A'ED! D:

caird coinheringaahing

Unary, Lenguage, Malbolge, ;#

You

Again!

totallyhuman

I could technically use a site online to do those...

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman webmath.com/k8ipadd.html

Step Hen

9:20 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing so... there are 4, out of how many? :P aka not saying much

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman primes.utm.edu/curios/includes/primetest.php

@StepHen those are just the ones I can name.

Step Hen

@totallyhuman No, everything has to use the internet, that'll be the appeal of it

caird coinheringaahing

Is there a way of making a Github gist completely open to anyone to edit?

totallyhuman

No

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing google docs? :P

You

9:22 PM

Wait, so GitHub gists are not open to everyone? I thought they were.

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen never used google docs

totallyhuman

@StepHen would that be legal under ppcg law though

caird coinheringaahing

@You to view, not to edit

@totallyhuman not a chance

But that's not why you're making it, right?

You

@cairdcoinheringaahing But isn't the whole forking functionality so then anyone can edit anything?

caird coinheringaahing

@You yeah, but not the original repo

totallyhuman

9:23 PM

Fork it, sure

The original is untouched

You

But then it can be pushed back and reviewed, right?

Did I just say something ridiculously stupid that caused everyone to leave the chat?

...hello? i really am scared of the silence...

...

help meeeeeeeeeeeeee

...

mınxomaτ

9:46 PM

Do not spam chat just because it's quiet.

7

Adám

CMC: Nth (0 or 1-indexed) term of 0 -1 1 -2 2 -3 3 -4 4 -5 5…

flawr

what is ¯¯¯¯?

Adám

@flawr negative symbols, like TI-BASIC.

flawr

¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯-_-¯

dzaima

@Adám SOGL, 8 bytes: ∆.^.I»* (1-indexed)

flawr

9:58 PM

@Adám Haskell 39 bytes

(x:y)#z=x:(z#y)
((0:[1..]#[-1,-2..])!!)

Adám

APL, 5 bytes: 0-.-⍳

@Adám -_-

@flawr -.-

@Adám .^.

<(^v^)>

10:06 PM

@flawr please...

flawr

I just posted this challenge in the sandbox, about alternating two given arrays: [a,b,c,..] [A,B,C,...] -> [a,A,b,B,c,C,...], did we already have something like that?

Adám

@flawr try searching for zipping and interleaving,and shuffling.

@flawr -.- is to minus and minus what dot/cross/inner/matrix product is to plus and times.

flawr

@Adám thanks for the suggestion

@Adám I don't understand that :)

@Adám oh there is this challenge of yours

ok it is outduped

or is it?

Adám

@flawr Hey, even I forgot I'd posted it :-)

flawr

would you consider it a dupe, I think mine is a lot easier, but obviously still very close

Adám

10:13 PM

@flawr Why wouldn't it be a dup?

@flawr AH, mine takes even more than 2. So your's is a subset.

flawr

@Adám It seems to be a lot easier in many languages as you have two lists of the same length and only takes two of them.

Adám

@flawr Jelly: Z

flawr

Haskell: (x:y)#z=x:(z#y)

Adám

@flawr Trivial, though, except in hard-to-use langs.

flawr

So is Hello World!

Let's see what reactios I get in the SB, if I get any negatives I'll delete it.

Adám

10:16 PM

@flawr Better as CMC.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Alternate Two Lists code-golflists Given two lists or arrays of integers [a,b,c,...] and [A,B,C,...] of the same length, return their alternation [a,A,b,B,c,C,...]. Example [1,2,3,4,5] [10,20,30,40,50] -> [1,10,2,20,3,30,4,40] Meta: Is it considered a dupe of this challenge? I'd say it is...

Adám

@flawr Just like the cross product (+.×) of a b c and x y z is (a×x)+(b×y)+(c×z) so is -.- of a b c and x y z equal to ((a-x)-((b-y)-(c-z)))

and so is the -.- of 0 and 1 2 3 equal to ((-1)-((-2)-(-3)))

flawr

Oh that seems interesting! I first thought about the vectorial cross product which just added to the confusion

totallyhuman

what should the memory system for intrnt be?

just plain old stack?