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9:00 PM
bye
 
CMC: n -> [1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 1, 2, 3, ..., n]
 
reduce(list.__add__,[range(1,i)for i in range(n+1)]]
so liek
i have a big collection of values to store
 
why not sum([range(1,i)for i in range(n+1)],[])
Now do it in Jelly :)
 
wut that works?
 
yup (•◡•)
Jelly, 3 bytes.
 
9:03 PM
oh shoot that's
uh ok
lemme see if all the atoms in my head work like i want them to
 
ok :P
 
nice
@StepHen lolol martin votes almost twice as much as dennis
 
9:05 PM
@HyperNeutrino I'm talking about the #3 guy
 
I was just going to point that out lol
member for almost 6 years ><
 
@WheatWizard nice solution=) too bad you cannot write (\x->[1..x]) pointfree.
 
@StepHen yeah but at least he has rep there lol
 
haskell looks interesting
 
9:07 PM
@HyperNeutrino Its super fun
 
@HyperNeutrino I agree, it is super fun!
 
agh i can't find atom why
 
cool =>
@totallyhuman which one
 
@totallyhuman there are tons of atoms everywhere
 
9:09 PM
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@WheatWizard oh there is a pointfree [1..x]: enumFromTo 1, but unfortunately it is way too long (found with this)
 
@HyperNeutrino unnamed-list-language, 2 bytes: R∑ (now on GitHub)
 
@flawr I knew of that, someday it will come in handy.
Oh that looks like a cool site
 
Is pointfree code like tacit code
@totallyhuman Progress on the CMC in Jelly?
 
Not at computer atm
 
9:13 PM
@HyperNeutrino I think they are synonymous
 
ah ok
 
I really wish you could mix pointfree functions with other functions in Haskell
 
@totallyhuman hint: you only need 2 atoms, and they're common ones (not obscure AE/OE/ae/oe atoms)
Pyth, 5 bytes: .nSMS
 
@HyperNeutrino APL, 6: ,/⍳¨∘⍳
 
9:15 PM
@HyperNeutrino wait didn't you say 3 bytes
 
so
well fine
2 distinct atoms :P
 
Oh
Hrmm
 
Or 2 atoms and a quick if you prefer quicks
 
That's probably reduce
NVM not tryna search atoms on mobile ><
 
ok :P
Well then should I just give the solution, or will you solve it later?
 
9:21 PM
Just give it, I'm not likely to be at a computer soon
 
Alright
RRF
R€F
Either works.
 
What's F
 
Flatten
 
... I'm an idiot
 
9:22 PM
@ArnoldPalmer you still online..?
 
Any name ideas for my new language?
 
Also why is jelly capable of computing range([1, 2, 3, 4, 5]) ><
 
It vectorizes lol
 
@HyperNeutrino a new one?
 
9:24 PM
Oh man I have a lot to learn
 
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Q: Is fibtraction a dupe?

Wheat WizardRecently this question caused a bit of a stir. The admitted goal of the challenge was to replace our old fibonacci question which the op felt was outdated. The question was closed twice by high rep users holding code-golf badges, and reopened twice by regular users. It currently has two additi...

 
The vectorization
I totally forgot
 
lololol
 
@NewMetaPosts rename to 'Duplicality of Fibtraction' hehe
 
9:28 PM
@HyperNeutrino I didn't know you knew Pyth
 
I don't.
I've learned from Jelly that as long as you kind of get the code structure, all you need is a fancy search bar :3
 
Well great
 
That makes sense
 
It just got a third close vote
 
9:29 PM
@totallyhuman It always gets reopened :P
 
After all these days, I doubt it'll happen
 
Total Brainfart: I've put the code into the input box and I wondered why it didn't work \0/
 
Wait now the vote got retracted
o0
@HyperNeutrino wish jelly had a fancy search bar
 
That would be me. I thought about it, and decided that too many of the original Fibonacci answers would be able to be trivially ported here, but decided against it a bit later (hence the retracted close vote) because I feel like the other challenge is too old and this offers some spots for some interesting golfs with languages that have Fibonacci builtins.
@totallyhuman I could try to make one sometime o0 or blackmail persuade Dennis
 
@HyperNeutrino dammit you put it in better words
 
9:33 PM
what
 
I'm trying to argue that same point but you managed to do it better
 
hah lol xD
Also TFW you golf KoTH bots because why not :P
 
Pls no
 
Alternative solution to your cmc @HyperNeutrino .nSMh
 
Hm. What does h do?
 
9:35 PM
I should participate in a KOTH
 
CMC: n -> [1, 2, 3, ..., n-2, n-1, n, n-1, n-2, ..., 4, 3, 2, 3, ..., n-3, n-2, n-1, n-2, n-3, ..., 5, 4, 3, 4, ..., etc]. Essentially, the values keep going up and down with the bounds moving closer and closer each time
Actually nvm don't answer this
I'm going to sandbox it
 
in order to be politically correct we should not only have KOTHs but also have QOTVs
3
 
Valley?
 
@flawr what's V?
 
@totallyhuman valley
:)
 
9:36 PM
@HyperNeutrino If Jelly had a Hoogle like search function I might try to learn it
 
@totallyhuman I answer-ninja'd your question
 
How TF did neutrino ninja me
And again
o0
 
@WheatWizard ooo I should make a "Hoogle" like search then. makes it easier ( ;) )
one of these days I should just say something and then if I ninja them I'll just say "ninja'd (and I'm ninja-ing you again)" and watch them get ninja'd predictively
 
@HyperNeutrino Just to be clear hoogle is a search tool for haskell functions.
 
oh
cool, I thought it was a typo ;))) :P
 
9:38 PM
so you should make a Joogle :)
 
@HyperNeutrino hey how do i work the handler?
 
@HyperNeutrino Listy mclistface
 
@totallyhuman no
 
@ATaco Just got back from work ATaco
 
9:39 PM
@Christopher Put it in a directory with the other bots, and then in the botnames list, put down the bots' Python file names
 
With the .py?
 
without.
 
@HyperNeutrino aw :c
 
@ATaco does RProjN2 not have a bitwise not?
 
Handler does not work
(or your bots)
 
9:40 PM
What is the error?
 
Jelly mcjellyface
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Well actually they never "hit
 
hm?? weird
is there an exception, or is it just 0-0?
hey that's a cool face
 
0-0
 
9:41 PM
@HyperNeutrino List
 
hm. ok. let me try
@Adám Just "List"?
Listp
 
@HyperNeutrino Yep.
 
hm. interesting idea
 
@HyperNeutrino at the end of play add
		print("Hand1: "+str(hand1))
		print("Hand2: "+str(hand2))
 
I'll debug it
 
9:42 PM
@ArnoldPalmer *RProgN2?
 
@ASCII-only Lol oops, but yeah
 
@ASCII-only Wait. 2RProgN
would be much better
 
lol they never hit
waht tf
 
The only bitwise operators I can find are & and |, the not that's given is a boolean not
in RProgN 2
 
@HyperNeutrino SLIP Stack-based LIst Programming
 
9:44 PM
ooo
They're returning hit values, but the controller's ignoring them :(
 
@HyperNeutrino rip
Just edit question i guess
 
no I had extra brackets so it was returning [[0, 0]] instead of [0, 0]
 
lol
 
Wait WHY did I think it would end up being a LIST COMPREHENSION???
 
9:46 PM
anyway, gtg now. o/!
 
@ArnoldPalmer yeah :(
 
@HyperNeutrino LPL/s List Programming Language/stack
 
@ASCII-only There's no bitwise not???
 
@ArnoldPalmer no there isn't, blame ATack for that
 
9:49 PM
How do you not build in a not? It's so important
 
oh crap Charcoal doesn't have not either
 
@Mr.Xcoder APL: !-⊢
 
Well, that kills my solution to @ATaco's cop post
 
Nah, it doesn't
 
With my solution it was
I was gonna be lazy and just rebuild the operators lol
 
9:51 PM
That's basically my solution
 
I guess it would be cheating to ask how you defined addition without a not
 
RProgN also has strings and stacks, keep in mind
 
Yeah, but that's so much more work lol
 
Oh yeah definitely wouldn't want it to be hard to crack :P
 
Why didn't you implement a not operator? Or xor for that matter?
Clever and hard don't have to be the same xD
 
9:56 PM
I've never really found a use for bitwise operators in golfing
 
Really? Maybe it's cause I use python and ~- and -~ are used everywhere that it seems more important to me
 
Ah, well the first version of RProgN was written in Lua, and Lua thinks bitwise operators are heresy
 
That's unfortunate, cause bit math is fun
 
> availableMediaCharacteristicsWithMediaSelectionOptions
wow ok... and I thought getElementById was long
 
@HyperNeutrino but you left me with a broken handler
 
10:10 PM
@ATaco Does RProgN2 have comments by any chance?
 
@Downgoat aMCWMSO there, much better
 
@Downgoat Now I see why they favour camelCase...
 
hehe
 
@ArnoldPalmer nope
 
@ATaco RIP numbero dos
@ATaco What about a debug command like in RProgN with I?
 
10:22 PM
Why is it that my posts stay at low views.
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Q: Chopsticks mutated with points KoTH

ChristopherBasic rules (different then mine) Story It is the year 4579, humans now have 2 hands with 1001 fingers each. Chopsticks has become based off of points. And @Dennis has more rep the @Martin... Hand drawn red circles are now downvoted... Jon Skeet has hit 2 trillion rep on every SE site... Yeah s...

 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

caird coinheringaahingOne OEIS after another answer-chaining sequence This is an answer chaining question that uses sequences from OEIS, and the length of the previous submission. This answer chaining question will work in the following way: I will post the first answer. All other solutions must stem from that. T...

 
@flawr The KotH I'm working up to posting on main is going to be an Ant QotH, so we're half way there...
 
@ArnoldPalmer still no dice, sorry
 
@NewSandboxedPosts ohh nice
course it's gonna be super tricky but that's the fun part
 
10:58 PM
Mmmm... fricko.
Who was trying to give me a dictionary earlier?
 
What?
 
@Christopher Sorry, is it still broken?
 
I had a sandbox'd challenge that needed a good dictionary and cant find the link
Whoever left the comment with a chat link deleted their comment haha
I think it was tricho
Not 100% sure
 
YES
Thanks, I need to figure out this chat stuff lol
 
11:13 PM
@DJMcMayhem Aw, looks like I've been beaten to the punch :P Have been busy all day
 
@Doorknob Have you seen hotdog.SE?
 
Yes, unfortunately. :)
 
@totallyhuman are you working on a language with a bunch of OEIS sequence builtins or is my memory f***ed?
 
@Doorknob Hey, whaddya mean "unfortunately"? You made hotdog.vim after all, so you shouldn't be complaining :)
@cairdcoinheringaahing It's technically a Python package.
 
11:19 PM
Language or package?
 
And it wouldn't be allowed because it takes stuff from online
Module
 
I think you may have read my mind :)
 
You could hard-code all of the sequences...
 
@HyperNeutrino I made what? What's that? I've definitely never heard of it. Who would be so absurd as to make something like that?
 
@Doorknob Hm. Good question. Must not have been anyone sane for sure ;)
 
11:20 PM
@StepHen I would like this challenge to be posted. I've got an answer in RProgN2...
 
@HyperNeutrino my mod theory is still correct
 
@Doorknob do you mods deliberately only ever have 2 of you here at once?
 
No? Probably works out that way because of timezones.
 
11:22 PM
@HyperNeutrino I've been thinking about it
I could scrape
But it still would be invalid 'cause there's a limit to the values
 
@totallyhuman don't they all have a formula for solving them?
 
There's usually one written in Mathematica...
 
e.g. Triangular: f(n) = n(n+1)/2
 
0/10 use f(n) := sum(range(n)) because it's totally more efficient.
@totallyhuman Everything has a limit ;)))
 
@HyperNeutrino show me the mathematical way of that and I'll (chat)upvote it
 
11:24 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing yes but you have to be able to parse them
 
0
Q: Subtract a random number 0..10 from inputted number and print it repeatedly until the number is below zero

pixlarkWinner is whoever has the shortest answer in bytes. Example in C (118 bytes): #include<stdlib.h>#include<stdio.h> main(x,v)char**v;{srand(&x);x=atoi(v[1]);while(x>0)printf("%d ",x),x-=rand()%10;}

 
The formulae often are piecewise
 
wth is hotdog.se
 
So it includes some English sometimes
And there are supposed to be guide lines but a lot of people don't follow them
 
hotdog.se is sadness.
 
11:26 PM
Moral of the story: it would take years to parse all formulae on OEIS
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing hm?
@ATaco s/sadness/madness/
Vote for whether or not Fibtraction is a dupe here!
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Q: Is fibtraction a dupe?

Wheat WizardRecently this question caused a bit of a stir. The admitted goal of the challenge was to replace our old fibonacci question which the op felt was outdated. The question was closed twice by high rep users holding code-golf badges, and reopened twice by regular users. It currently has two additi...

 
I think posting an opinion you disagree with is discouraged
 
Is it? Can you find a relevant post/guideline anywhere?
dammit I can't find good unanswered challenges that I can use to try to repcap rip
 
11:42 PM
@HyperNeutrino use Commentator anywhere for a guaranteed +1 from me (tell me that you have, obviously)
 
lol I need +4 ;_;
But okay
I need +4 in 15 minutes lol. nah, maybe next time. capping isn't that important to me anyway; it's just that I want Epic/Legendary xD
(though Legendary is going to be insanely hard; only our top two users by rep have gotten it lol)
:I I shouldn't have talked about it.
 
@HyperNeutrino brb stealing a certain badge from Dennis
 
hm?
how do you steal a badge from a person
 
>.< The one flaw
 
still, how does that work
 
11:53 PM
1) stalk Dennis online until you get his address
2) Go to his address
3) Ask politely for a badge, and if that doesn't work, beat him up and take his account
Politely, of course
 
>.<
> beat him up politely
 
Yup
if my wifi wasn't terrible, I'd find an appropriate youtube video
 
@ATaco I'll try to remember to ping you when it goes up
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Actually that's easier than you might think, you can figure out a lot about Dennis if you look hard enough (like his thesis paper)
 
11:56 PM
@StepHen I think he lives in South America somewhere but I'm not sure
I know he's married and has a toddler-aged daughter
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing He did at some point
 
I know too much
 
I know he lives in the EDT/EST timezone.
 
@HyperNeutrino I just saw your pun in talk.tryitonline.net shakes head
 
it wasn't mine!!!11! xD
 

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