The Nineteenth Byte

HyperNeutrino

22:00

lol I was being non-serious there...

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Water cooling on your very first build project != good idea

Downgoat

halp look exactly the same

HyperNeutrino

lol accidentally short-circuits entire computer

Helka Homba

@Phoenix it's not watercooled. Some sort of passive heat tubes but no pump/fans

trichoplax

Mine's silent - it only has passive cooling so no water pump, just a lot of heatsink - yes like Helka just said

Phoenix

22:01

@Downgoat The one one the left and right are the same card for reasons. The one in the middle is a blower style.

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino hey any progress on your actual account?

Downgoat

which one make least noise?

Phoenix

Blower

HyperNeutrino

@totallyhuman 89 rep now

+28 from earlier with the 51

*+38

*94 *+33 **+43

yay almost 100

anyway, gtg now. bye! o/

BradC

Quick question about code-bowling rules, like this one:

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Q: Output the text "Code Bowling"

Code-Bowling You've been hired by Brunswick Bowling to create a simple program to output the text Code Bowling on their monitors. This company is worth a pretty penny and you feel you can swindle them for quite the bit of cash. The job description clearly states that they pay on a scoring basi...

Helka Homba

22:03

@Downgoat Note that noise is relative. My pc fans are a few feet away from my mic when recording videos but things like the mouse and keyboard are far more audible in the final recording

BradC

Specifically, the rule: "Naturally, a subset of the program should not be able complete the task on its own without the rest of the program."

Downgoat

Quesiton: what does it mean when a case has 'VR' support

trichoplax

That there's room inside for your head?

Phoenix

@Downgoat It has a thunderbolt port

Downgoat

:O

Phoenix

22:04

Actually IDK if VR necessarily mean thunderbolt

BradC

That means something like this: PRINT LEFT('Code BowlingXXX',12) is invalid because it can, via the strategic removal of certain characters, be reduced to `PRINT 'Code Bowling' ?

Phoenix

Whichever video standard VR uses, that case has a port for.

totallyhuman

@BradC only one character can removed at a time I think

quartata

@Downgoat Are you building a Hackintosh?

Downgoat

yes

quartata

22:06

Good luck

BradC

@totallyhuman Ok, so if the removal of any single character removal breaks it, then I'm ok?

Downgoat

@quartata :| why do I need luck

Helka Homba

@Downgoat for saying that again you get kittened: youtu.be/FFwbII94meY

BradC

(that's a bad example, removing any X doesn't break it)

quartata

@Downgoat Because it's hard and I hope it goes well?

Downgoat

22:07

@HelkaHomba aaaaahahhhhh cats

quartata

I'd like to know how it went when/if you get it working

Downgoat

@quartata oh >_< thanks :)

Helka Homba

he's also doing windows

quartata

Are you using Chameleon?

I'm told that's the best boot loader for it nowadays

Downgoat

planning on using Clover, tonymacx86 says Clover is new fancy one

New Meta Posts

22:09

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Q: Must answers be given as SOURCE code, or is machine code acceptable?

It's been my understanding that answers in code golf competitions should generally be given as source code. But lately I've seen a few answers specified as x86 assembly, counting the size as the number of bytes in the compiled binary blob. For example this answer. Firstly, it seems like this way...

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quartata

Oh OK. Last time I tried this was a long ass time ago so

Phoenix

@HelkaHomba I am glad that exists

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino 250 now, this is getting ridiculous...

Downgoat

I am in awe at how a top-of-line PC cost less than a baseline MacBook ._.

Mendeleev

@Downgoat Look up the Gigabyte Aero 14. it's a good laptop for 1200-1400 that beats the pants off of any macbook in price vs performance

@quartata Nope. Clover.

I have a Hackintosh laptop that my sister uses

Phoenix

22:16

Jun 6 at 23:55, by Phoenix

No one on earth would find that remotly surprising.

Jim

Anything beats macbooks in terms of price vs perfs. No?

Phoenix

Very much so.

Helka Homba

2 macbooks

Mendeleev

@Jim Mac Pro

Did you guys see the OP5 annoucement?

Phoenix

As far as performance/price goes, nothing can beat an apple product.

Downgoat

22:34

doesn't everything beat apple product wat

Phoenix

performance/price

not price/performance

That was the joke

Mendeleev

@Downgoat Why are you asking me?

@Phoenix You got it backwards

Having a high performance/price ratio would be good.

Phoenix

> As far as performance/price goes, nothing can beat an apple product.

O yeah, I did.

oops

Downgoat

@Mendeleev :|

has anyone here use OutletPC before

Mendeleev

@Downgoat |:

downgoat more like updonkey O_o

Today was my last day of school, I can finally ~~relax~~ PPCG 24/7

And WatOS. Don't forget WatOS

Downgoat

22:47

Question: is 7th gen intel CPU worth it. It cost more and also may not have hackintosh compatible

Mendeleev

not that much of an improvement honestly, you just get more DRM (always bad), newer uarch and higher temps

Downgoat

oh, ok, also don't want to have to use windows so I guess no Kaby Lake

Question: what is Micro ATX and ATX

Helka Homba

@Downgoat motherboard sizes, called form factors

ATX is most standard

Mendeleev

Should I buy a Google Home?

@HelkaHomba uatx is much much cheaper

Downgoat

@Mendeleev lol I mean everytime I go to friends house who has alexa first thing is "Alexa, order condoms"

Mendeleev

22:54

This is google home not alexa so that wouldn't work

That reminds me

Downgoat

> OK google, text mom do you have the weed

Mendeleev

I once went to someone's house who had alexa

I ordered 99 pillows

They came

They were returned

@Downgoat There's voice locking

I'm sure that you sound different from me

Downgoat

i mean surely you have google home set to work with your pet goat you obviously should haev

Mendeleev

Should I post a picture of the goats that live about half a mile from me

Downgoat

YES

Mendeleev

22:57

actually

Not right now

But later

Downgoat

ok change build not going to bork into bork overdrive right?: pcpartpicker.com/list/pRqCWX

Mendeleev

@Downgoat read this

Downgoat

:O reddit.com/r/goats

Mendeleev

Your catchy goat running gif: thumbs.gfycat.com/SlowLividIbizanhound-size_restricted.gif

CensoredUsername

Could anyone give me some tips with this?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Data exfiltration Frenzy in the frequency domain. Summary of the challenge You must find a way to broadcast a ten-character password through a lossy communication channel and recover the password on the other side. To achieve this you must write two programs. The first program will receive the...

Downgoat

23:01

@Mendeleev don't reccomend oneboxing, pretty big gif

Mendeleev

used the size restricted one now

mınxomaτ

That's still 12 MB. Too much.

New Meta Posts

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Q: What happened to the memes page?

I was just browsing the Many Memes of Meta when the question was edited in to add, next to the PPCG entry: and recently deleted Not believing this, I clicked on the link, only to find out that it had. Why? Why was the post deleted? While it wasn't the best fit for a Meta question, it was ...

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Zizouz212

I think that worked

Downgoat

O_o Dennis deleted the memes page

Zizouz212

23:08

Folks have memes around here?

Destructible Lemon

@Zizouz212 -_- [disapproving face inserted]

Zizouz212

:D

Destructible Lemon

and also referring to downgoat as an actual goat

Zizouz212

Nobody knows you're a goat on the internet

Destructible Lemon

no I am not starring that. I'm hoping everyone else has the temperance not to star it either

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Zizouz212

23:11

Why would you star it?

Stars aren't useful anyway

Stars are the equivalent of tears for you golfers

Destructible Lemon

because it looks like that was a bad piece of starbait

@Zizouz212 u wot

Zizouz212

If a golfer is on the verge of tearing, they star it

Destructible Lemon

legitimate question because I don't know

@Zizouz212 this was not a very good clarification

Zizouz212

Wait, what don't you get?

Phoenix

@DestructibleLemon ._.

Zizouz212

23:13

Lol

sigh It's unusually quiet here

Mendeleev

It really is

ATaco

I'm pretty sure TNB is the most active chat on SE.

Mendeleev

yup

Downgoat

At least was

Zizouz212

It's exam time for most of us. Ugh -_-

Downgoat

23:20

AU and JS are pretty sctive too

@Zizouz212 99% of US schools have finished exams

so have austrlia

Mendeleev

I'm just out of school

School year ended today

Zizouz212

Oh really?

Canadians are doing exams right now

ATaco

Australians are still on the tail end of exams.

Mendeleev

I had a lan party where I played CS:Source with some of my friends

because

Phoenix

@Mendeleev Mine ends fridays

Mendeleev

23:21

it was bsically a free day everything was already finished

Phoenix

I have finals tommorow and thursday

Mendeleev

@Phoenix Cool

Zizouz212

I've got two more exams at the end of the week

And then I'm done for good!

Mendeleev

gg

ATaco

I'm working. I'm at work right now. Stay in school as long as possible.

Phoenix

23:24

But you don't get paid for school.

ATaco

I'd prefer to be broke and still in school.

Mendeleev

ono someone put superglue in my fidget spinner :O

how to remove?

ATaco

Hot water.

Mendeleev

that just hardens it

ATaco

Or Acetone if you have it.

Downgoat

23:26

@Mendeleev throw fidget spinner in sheep :P

Mendeleev

My mom has nail polish remover

> yhtoe

Hooves?

ATaco

That's basically acetone, it'll do the trick.

Phoenix

@Mendeleev You don't

Mendeleev

@ATaco Problem is this is made of ABS

so it will dissolve

ATaco

Dilute it to about 3:10, apply whilst forcing the spinner, quickly wash off.

Mendeleev

23:27

OK will try

Problem is

It's in the bearing balls

ATaco

I'm assuming you don't have enough to pour it over it.

Mendeleev

I have a 4oz bottle

But I don't want to melt it

HyperNeutrino

does superglue burn

Mendeleev

Ehh they're like $4, I'll just order a new one

ATaco

Your options are kinda thin here.

Might as well try.

HyperNeutrino

23:29

I just realized something

Phoenix

Superglue is specifically designed not to let two things detach by any force known to man.

HyperNeutrino

now everyone knows how I voted on their posts whereas normally votes are anonymous

/disapprove

Helka Homba

@HyperNeutrino how?

HyperNeutrino

oh wait no tacoscripts on mobile

@HelkaHomba by checking how much rep they gain or lose

though they don't know which posts, just how much

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino /o_o is golfier and easier to type

Mendeleev

23:33

I jsut got a 18 kill streak in CS:GO arms race O_o

Zizouz212

@ATaco lol, I'm planning on staying for at least another 6 years

Phoenix

@Zizouz212 Wait. If ou get out of school in 12th grade, that puts you in 6th grade now.

HyperNeutrino

@Phoenix does university count?

Phoenix

How are you a diamond mod

Zizouz212

Haha, I'm graduating Grade 12 this year

Phoenix

23:36

@HyperNeutrino O right, dur

Zizouz212

Then I'm heading over to Carleton University :)

Actually, no. I'm officially graduating in like 8 days if I can do well on my exams :P

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 good luck! :D

Zizouz212

@Phoenix Modraters are just monkeys with guns in their hands

HyperNeutrino

> Modraters

Zizouz212

But really, I think they just made me a mod because I complain too much

HyperNeutrino

23:37

so you're talking about people who rate mods, not mods themselves?

Phoenix

Right, you lot haven't had an election yet

Zizouz212

Ran for the Law election, placed 4th

But recently, I've barely been able to put a lot of time.

HyperNeutrino

lol I was planning on eventually submitting an entry into the PPCG mod election (just for fun and to get some feedback on how I can improve) but so much for that now ಠ_ಠ

Zizouz212

Which is good, cause Open Source literally needs like 10 minutes a week

HyperNeutrino

and then there's SO which is under constant spam threat

'SO' == 'OS'[::-1] :o

Zizouz212

23:39

lol I have no clue how those folks manage

How many questions do they get? Maybe 7-8000?

We get... Maybe 3 on a good day :P

HyperNeutrino

lol I think you need like 10 or something to get out of beta

Zizouz212

Yep. That's one of the main things. It's more complex than that - you need to have 10 quality questions without much for fluctuations, and a solid user base and so on

Phoenix

And if you don't get enough then the beta fails and they kill your site

Zizouz212

They try and give public betas as much time as they need. They only kill private betas

ATaco

I'm pretty sure CSE is safe.

Zizouz212

23:44

Unless a public beta has completely broken down and disappeared, it's basically a permanent site

ATaco

It's had a better beta than we did.

Zizouz212

CompSci educators?

ATaco

Yeah.

HyperNeutrino

We graduated long ago and still have no design >.<

Phoenix

Right, because we have other features we'd rather have first.

Zizouz212

23:45

They're getting to ya, there's a big backlog and they're trying to focus more on standardization for the time being :)

HyperNeutrino

I'm not complaining; we don't need as much rep for priviledges this way :D

Which is especially helpful for me ಠ_ಠ

Uriel

you can try github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design

Zizouz212

lol

HyperNeutrino

anyway I should stop complaining about that

@Uriel have that already

Zizouz212

@ATaco sigh I have a lot of reservations about that site

HyperNeutrino

23:46

looks nice

ATaco

Zizouz212

I'm actually kind of concerned we're popping up too many sites right now without any long-term plan sort of thing

ATaco

Look at us in the background, chilling with our nemesis CR.

HyperNeutrino

lol

> Software Quality Assurance

Zizouz212

And whatever Quantitative Finance is

HyperNeutrino

23:47

what even is that

Zizouz212

Music Practice & Theory is the odd one out there :P

HyperNeutrino

and then there's PPCG which is like "it works but it takes a couple of hours, but it works so whatever we don't care"

totallyhuman

What

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 why so?

Uriel

@Zizouz212 its actually pretty legitimate

ATaco

23:48

"Just because it takes 3 Aeons doesn't mean it's not a solution"

totallyhuman

Seriously, why was the memes page deleted

Zizouz212

It's the only colourful one, and it's among a whole bunch of tech sites :P

totallyhuman

It was bad enough that it was locked...

Uriel

but there are stuff like cs educators that are half-so half-academy

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 Mi Yodeya is not a Tech site ಠ_ಠ

Zizouz212

23:49

But it's not as colourful

HyperNeutrino

still

has color

Uriel

@HyperNeutrino neither are christianity, buddhism or beers and wines

HyperNeutrino

and not tech

@Uriel we were talking about the 12 in the photo :P

ATaco

I'd think that PPCG is atleast as popular as CR, We deserve a design!

HyperNeutrino

@totallyhuman ask the person who deleted it

Zizouz212

23:50

What is Mi Yodeya btw?

Uriel

@HyperNeutrino oh, blank for me (vpn)

HyperNeutrino

@HyperNeutrino Judaism SE

Uriel

@Zizouz212 judaism

Zizouz212

Aah

HyperNeutrino

@Uriel ah. same for me at school ಠ_ಠ

Zizouz212

23:51

Oh that reminds me

Toronto District School Board had to block a whole bunch of things like netflix, snapchat, twitter and so on

ATaco

I need to go back to using Gyazo.

It just works better.

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 Toronto Ontario?

Zizouz212

Yep

HyperNeutrino

ooo I think you're the SE user that lives closest to me AFAIK

Zizouz212

Not because it was distracting students, but because it was used so much it took up all the bandwidth and brought down internet speeds a lot

HyperNeutrino

23:52

oh wow lol

Phoenix

Zizouz212

Where about are you? (If you don't mind me asking)

HyperNeutrino

(cc @Downgoat)

@Zizouz212 Waterloo

Zizouz212

Aah

I used to live there :P

HyperNeutrino

I see :P

ASCII-only

23:54

@Downgoat yeah why

HyperNeutrino

@WheatWizard :o even DENNIS had negative rep change today :o

Helka Homba

CMC: In the same language write two programs. One outputs an english word and is as short as possible. The other outputs a longer english word but the code is shorter than the first program.

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino O_o what

HyperNeutrino

@ASCII-only because he lost 125 rep from removed-user

Wheat Wizard

I had a net of -105

HyperNeutrino

23:56

rip :I

Zizouz212

print 'English'

print 'rip'

HyperNeutrino

I had a net of -5800 or so

ATaco

Lua, io.write("Pip") print("Honk")

Helka Homba

@ATaco would print("Pip") not work?

Zizouz212

@HyperNeutrino You lost that much?

Phoenix

23:57

Short as possible

Helka Homba

if so then it's not as short as possible

Uriel

Python print('hello'[-1]), print('hello')

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 yep

Phoenix

@Uriel Not short as possible

Zizouz212

That's... weird. Normally they preserve votes

HyperNeutrino

23:58

@Zizouz212 no it was my account lol

ATaco

"As short as possible" is non-observable, -1.

Zizouz212

Your account was deleted?

Uriel

@Phoenix now?

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 age restrictions ಠ_ಠ fun fact: I turn 15 in under 2 weeks

Phoenix

You can write print('hell') which is shorter

HyperNeutrino

23:58

actually not quite

Mendeleev

@HyperNeutrino nice

Zizouz212

... You only need to be 13

HyperNeutrino

@Zizouz212 exactly. but my SO account was created when I was 12 (no idea WHY they even let me create it in the first place given that I gave them my actual birthday)

ATaco

Observable restrictions only please.

Zizouz212

Aah

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