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4:23 AM
@ConorO'Brien Oh hey, that's pretty cool
 
Anyone ever seen this?
 
seen what?
 
 ~/weird  ll
total 0
?rw-r--r-- 1 dmitry dmitry 0 Dec 31  1969 localstate
?--------- 1 root   root   0 Dec 31  1969 Preferences
 ~/weird  stat localstate
  File: localstate
  Size: 0         	Blocks: 0          IO Block: 4096   weird file
Device: 2eh/46d	Inode: 12920653    Links: 1
Access: (0644/?rw-r--r--)  Uid: ( 1000/  dmitry)   Gid: ( 1001/  dmitry)
Access: 1969-12-31 16:00:00.000000000 -0800
Modify: 1969-12-31 16:00:00.000000000 -0800
Change: 2017-06-16 21:21:41.929571216 -0700
 Birth: -
 ~/weird  lsattr Preferences
lsattr: Operation not supported While reading flags on Preferences
 
I feel like maybe you shouldn't be posting this
 
@DestructibleLemon Why not?
 
4:35 AM
well I mean the fact that there is a birth field makes me feel like maybe this data is special or secret? IDK
 
These are my corrupted Google Chrome preferences
Nothing much
 
 ~/weird  rm Preferences
rm: remove write-protected weird file 'Preferences'? y
 ~/weird  ls
localstate
so I can delete them
 
also anyone here got any ideas for a koth? I have made another koth I could post but that one is too hard I couldn't even make a bot for it
 
FPS KOTH
 
4:37 AM
hm
 
You have a maze and a field of view
You can turn to change your FOV
 
this is like the exact problem with my koth *100
 
So, write a CS:GO aimbot.
 
Then you can shoot at people in your FOV
I'm playing CS:GO right now ;-;
 
4:38 AM
exact problem with my koth
 
Also, I had to reset Google Chrome ;-;
ALL MY TABS
 
multiplied by 100
 
What's your KOTH problem?
 
that it is too complex to play easily
 
oic
 
seen what?
Wait WHAT
RIP my kittens game saves ;-;
I worked for like a month on that thing D:
 
@Mendeleev What's that?
 
It's an incremental game
 
neat
 
It gets really in depth
I think there's space travel and by the end you can get to metaphysics
 
4:44 AM
This is already a great game
 
Also, go to options and change the color scheme to "sleek (by kida)"
 
@Mendeleev I don't seem to have an options menu
 
@Phoenix Top right corner, it's text
 
oic
This game is too smart for me
It figured out I was using an external autoclicking tool
Didn't do JS magic or anything
 
5:00 AM
How?
Also, buy fields
 
IDK, I got an achievment
 
Oh yeah
I tried to get that once
Didn't have the patience
Then I realized that autoclickers were a thing
 
@Mendeleev I had to download said autoclicker because everything started starving for no reason
 
@Phoenix Winter. -75% fields in winter.
 
Mhm
Do farmers keep working?
 
5:01 AM
Yep
 
Cool
 
I just managed to get agriculture in time for my kittens to not starve ;-;
 
@Mendeleev the link
 
@DestructibleLemon Didnt see that it was a link, sorry
 
@Mendeleev 0/10 can't throw candy on ground
 
5:05 AM
@DestructibleLemon When you get to religion, you can "praise the sun" (throw faith "on the ground" to unlock new upgrade opportunities)
 
nope
not good enough
 
Archery or Mining?
 
I would get both
when you get enough science
 
But which one first
 
TIL kittens eat catnip to survive
 
5:06 AM
Archery I guess, it's cheaper
@DestructibleLemon It's a game
 
Ok
 
Archery unlocks huntimg
You would want to gather catpower first
 
advisor say I have not enough catnip
wtf
 
get fields
as many as you can
 
@DestructibleLemon That means you will have negative in winter
 
5:08 AM
then rush for agriculture
 
@DestructibleLemon And that you refine catnip into wood
 
no but it's catnip wood
 
winter sucks
 
yup
 
What does catpower do?
 
5:31 AM
Lets you hunt
You need 200 to hunt
 
5:54 AM
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Q: Cycles in a field

pROGRAMMING nERDYou have a field of P cycles. The power of qth cycle is given as Ai. If you sit on qth cycle, you will get the power Ai and you can make a jump of length Ai. That is, if you are sitting on 3rd cycle and it's power is 5, then you will land on position 8. Currently, you are sitting outside the fiel...

 
@Phoenix wait you're austrlia? I thought you were washington persoj
 
6:10 AM
@Downgoat he was talking about game winter
 
6:44 AM
Could somebody help me with this? I'm making a polyglot and I need a language that uses # for comments that's shorter than Python.
 
6:55 AM
@Challenger5 ruby?
 
@Mendeleev What would that look like in Ruby? (I don't much about Ruby and even less about golfing it)
 
7:57 AM
@Challenger5 Didn't Doorknob already comment with bash
@Mendeleev Longer for this challenge
 
8:12 AM
0
Q: Helping Danny to maximize his score?

Dark0Danny works at the toy shop which sells grid shaped balls. The grid P has Q rows and Q columns where each cell contains a value in range [0,Q2 − 1] and all values are DISTINCT. Here 0 denotes an empty cell. When a customer enters the store he/she plays with the grid and rearrange the values in th...

 
for a challenge that requires no input/arguments, is it okay if we take a dummy argument?
 
@KritixiLithos no it isn't
 
oh well
 
@NewMainPosts this seems suspiciously like homework; like it has nothing to do with python or c++, but maybe those are the programming languages he uses
 
8:36 AM
@KritixiLithos depends
 
what did I do wrong with my botdom koth ;_;
 
Okx
8:56 AM
Can we get this deleted?
 
@ASCII-only if you can see deleted posts: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/127031/41805
that's the post that I have a question with
 
@Challenger5 Ruby code i=1;loop{puts i.to_s.reverse;i+=1} is one byte shorter
WTF. In four days, my stupid bot has made over half of the comment karma that took me 3 years to get. reddit.com/user/LinkReplyBot/comments/?sort=top
 
@Mendeleev haha +1
@Mendeleev Bash is so much shorter
 
It's my favorite bot. Really posts correct links
@ASCII-only Yeah I know, seq 1 inf|rev
 
9:12 AM
@KritixiLithos why do you need a dummy argument?
 
to make Röda work
 
@KritixiLithos why is it needed?
 
to declare a for C
because I can't do int a and I can't do a;main()
 
@KritixiLithos Looks fine to me wait the dummy arg is needed in the function call right?
 
then I will undelete it
 
9:15 AM
@ASCII-only no, it's invalid
 
it's not a function, it is the main program
 
@KritixiLithos If the program can be invoked without the dummy and give the right answer then it's fine
 
in Röda, I need an argument (regardless of its value) for the program to work
 
@KritixiLithos Then yeah it isn't valid
 
@EriktheOutgolfer yasu.
 
9:17 AM
umm what?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I thought that's how you pronounce it.
 
pronounce what?
 
γεια σου, of course
 
@LeakyNun isn't the first letter the gamma?
 
9:20 AM
@KritixiLithos yes, but it is softened
 
so why would it be pronounced as "y"?
ah
what does it mean?
 
γει the ει is pronounced like ee
and y is the closest you can get to γ
 
@KritixiLithos it means hello
 
actually 2nd-person hello (σου)
 
it sound like the "y" in European Spanish
and you know, the Greeks like to change everything to an /i/ sound
and the "g" changes to something like a /j/ sound (actually isn't) before /i/ and /e/
rendering the sound almost into oblivion
 
9:25 AM
η/ι/υ/ει/οι/υι are all /i/s or /i:/s
 
@EriktheOutgolfer crazy
or as you Greeks say it, creezee
 
(/kreizy/ > /krizi/)
@EriktheOutgolfer I'm just making fun of the iotizations
 
then it'd be fun to learn that we call each other μ******
do you know the μ-word?
 
I don't
I hardly know any Greek word
I know more Ancient Greek :p
 
9:29 AM
yeah it's a swear word basically
 
I know grafu for writing
 
writing -> grafein (γράφειν)
that is in ancient greek
it means "the act of writing"
 
1 min ago, by Leaky Nun
I know more Ancient Greek :p
I told you
 
but in ancient Greek it's a separate tense called aparemfato (απαρέμφατο)
 
how would you pronounce my name in Greek?
 
9:31 AM
@KritixiLithos kritixi lithos
 
as I'd normally pronounce it :P
 
the "x" like a hard "h"
 
the x is supposed to be κσ i.e. ξ
 
oh really
 
if you transliterate it's Κριτιξι Λιθος (I don't know intended intonations though)
 
9:32 AM
is it a real name in Greek?
 
so κσ and ξ are pronounced the same?
 
@LeakyNun nope
 
no, I made it up
 
it sounds like Cretan Rock or something
 
@EriktheOutgolfer then why do you know it is ξ not χ?
 
9:33 AM
he used to be Κριτικσι Λιθος
 
@EriktheOutgolfer oh...
 
where λιθος is intonated as λίθος but κριτικσι...I don't think that word really exists
 
@KritixiLithos what is your real name?
 
@LeakyNun I used to play clash of clans, where my username was xi. I wanted to be more friendly to people to invite them to my clan, so I had to make up an identity. I got lithos from the translation of "harry potter and the philospher's stone" into Greek. Then I got kritixi by working my way back from xi
@LeakyNun that is totally not creepy at all
 
@KritixiLithos why kritixi?
oh, I meant the origin of "Kritixi Lithos", not your real name
 
9:37 AM
I'm not entirely sure how I got kritixi, all I know is that I wanted it to end in "xi"
 
@KritixiLithos :| lithos = stone, why stone
 
lithos is generally rock not just stone
 
@KritixiLithos what is "xi" then?
 
@ASCII-only that was the only word that stood out from the translation
@LeakyNun that my dad made up for me
 
@KritixiLithos how do you pronounce "xi" then?
 
9:40 AM
@Jim Have you gave up on the idea to have a challenge where one should solve multiple mini challenges?
 
X-I
it is said as two separate letters
 
@KritixiLithos how do you pronounce "x"?
/x/ or /ks/?
/x/ as in Bach /bax/
 
eks
I suppose
 
I see
so something like critical?
 
what?
 
9:42 AM
something like kritieksaee I guess
 
oh, I thought you meant how do I pronounce X in xi :/
that's a dumb interpretation on my side
then its /ks/
 
@KritixiLithos I mean, "kriti" like "critical" or what?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer is Έρικ Κωνσταντόπουλος the literal translation (in Greek) of EriktheOutgolfer or does it mean something else?
 
it's my real name
 
It's like Erik Konstantopoulos? (or something like that)
 
9:45 AM
it is (you looked at ell right?)
 
English Language Learners?
 
@LeakyNun no, I did not think of that when I made up my name, it's just a coincidence, I guess
 
transliteration would be Έρικ δε Αουτγκόλφερ
 
@EriktheOutgolfer No, used translate with the name from Puzzling and it worked
 
@KritixiLithos i think he means in terms of pronunciation
 
9:48 AM
@LeakyNun the "i" sound is maybe a bit more elongated then, if ∧ is what you mean
 
both really
@KritixiLithos and you have no idea what it means?
what about xi?
 
@LeakyNun no idea what what means? my name? I already knew about lithos, kritixi was just made up
without any intention of being a real word
 
oh ok
 
I don't know about xi, but I think it's something to do with my dad's internet username
and this isn't the first time there has been a discussion on the origins of my name on TNB :P
 
@KritixiLithos Can you fix the polyglot by specifying the dummy argument in another function, like main(){f(0);}f(a) instead of main(a)?
 
9:58 AM
ooh, that sounds like a good idea
@fergusq thanks, it works :D
now I might try a recursive function to save bytes
 
@KritixiLithos how does your Roda part work?
 
@KritixiLithos that gives me a stackoverflow, though
 
@KritixiLithos pls link
@KritixiLithos the dummy = 0 right?
 
@ASCII-only here's the stackoverflow: tio.run/##K8pPSfz/… if you want to see it
@ASCII-only yes, the dummy is 0
@LeakyNun I will use this new version to explain the Röda part: tio.run/…
 
@KritixiLithos and then?
 
10:09 AM
wait that ∧ can be golfed by one byte
So we call function f with argument 0, this is a dummy argument. Then a=1//1 performs int division on a which results in 1 for both C and Röda. Then, in an infinite loop: while[1>0], we output a reversed by converting it into a string `$a` and doing [::-1] (like in Python). After that, a in incremented
 
No, on C it is treated as a comment
 
yeah, I know, but a still results in 1
(I realise the wording isn't exact)
then the /* starts a multiline comment for Röda and the C part is ignored
 
0
Q: John toying with GP

w1n5t0nToday, John has Coder on his death table. He will ask T questions from Coder. If the coder can answer all these questions, he will let him go, otherwise John will kill the coder. Each question is of the following form: You form a geometric progression with N numbers. The first term of the progr...

 
this is the third consecutive question in programming challenge format...
what is happening today
 
@KritixiLithos You can remove 1>0, as in Röda an empty condition is a truthy condition.
 
10:22 AM
@fergusq the god speaketh
 
What is Python used for besides back-end development?
 
@Arjun python has big integers
and rather convenient list processing
I use it to deal with big sequences
 
@Arjun Computation, especially in science
 
I know that Python is really good for scientific purposes, but it seems to lack support for modern GUI programmming.
Does that mean that Python is not used for writing applications that are used by ordinary people?
??
 
I don't actually know what they use for e.g. games
 
10:32 AM
Java or C maybe?
Which language are .exe files written in?
 
bash?
I know quake use C because of fast inverse square root
 
All the programming languages have some specific extension and require a parser for executing them (except compiled languages). Then, why don't we require installation of some interpreters for executing applications like Web browsers, IDEs, etc.?
Are they all written in Compiled languages?
 
@Arjun we actually need
IDEs need the compilers
 
@Arjun Tkinter
 
> Python has a huge number of GUI frameworks (or toolkits) available for it, from TkInter (traditionally bundled with Python, using Tk) to a number of other cross-platform solutions, as well as bindings to platform-specific (also known as "native") technologies.
 
10:39 AM
@Arjun Most? Even JS can be compiled to an .exe (although it would be very inefficient)
 
@LeakyNun Sorry, I meant IDEs for web development (like Brackets) or simple Text editors (eg. Notepad++).
 
@Arjun What
@Arjun Well most Linux GUI applications are written in Python (Sublime is written in Python too, and it's cross-platform)
 
@ASCII-only Don't the components it provides look outfashoined?
Windows 95 like?
 
@Arjun TIO has a compiler inside
 
@LeakyNun How's that relevant with the conversation?
 
10:44 AM
@Arjun Well we do? Just they're bundled with the application for minimal hassle? Like you don't need to install Python to get Sublime, nor do you need Node installed for Vivaldi/Hyper
 
@Arjun oh, never mind
notepad++ is written in C++
 
@fergusq that would be a nice tip for codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/114176/41805
 
@ASCII-only What is .exe actually? Machine level code?
 
@KritixiLithos It's already there :) codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/114401/66323
 
@Arjun Yeah, it's a machine code binary
 
10:47 AM
Perhaps too hidden, I'll add it to the heading
 
@Arjun Then use IronPython :P
 
@KritixiLithos when will you undelete your answer?
 
@ASCII-only So, if I install Sublime Text, I won't have to install Python for other Python-specific applications?
 
@Arjun Depends, on Linux I think it installs Python globally
 
Another Question: Why doesn't Sublime Text convert its files to .exe? Bytes will be saved at the time of download.
Another Question : Does the main application that is run to open Sublime Text is a .py file?
 
10:55 AM
@Arjun What files
 
@ASCII-only I mean the main application file.
kinda like index.html of project
 
@Arjun Pretty sure it is
 
@ASCII-only So why don't Sublime Text developers provide .exe instead of .py? It will reduce download size.
 
@Arjun Because you can't really compile Python maybe?
 
@LeakyNun few seconds ago
 
11:02 AM
@ASCII-only That's why compiled languages are preferred over interpreted-ones for application development?
 
@Arjun Well really it depends, Sublime uses Python partly for easier plugins
 
@ASCII-only Sublime Text seems to have modern GUI. Does it use tkinter too? Or some better alternative?
I don'tthink something that nice is possible to be achieved with tkinter.
 
@Arjun Wait, my bad, it's mostly in C++, Python is only for plugins
 
Oh, I see.
That means Python is mostly a bad choice for writing nice GUI applications.
 
s/f.*//
2
 
11:12 AM
@KritixiLithos What?
 
@KritixiLithos Haha!
 
@KritixiLithos trailing space
should be s/ f.*//
 
@EriktheOutgolfer but hey, it gets the point across ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
normal people don't use trailing spaces
see? even SE itself trims them off
 
11:19 AM
@EriktheOutgolfer Normal people can't see trailing spaces ;)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer /./ not //
 
@ASCII-only // not /./
 
@EriktheOutgolfer :|
 
oh I see what you mean
keep the period
 
I recommend using gender-neutral pronouns. Coders do not have to be male, and defaulting to male pronouns (probably as a result of our implicit biases) further reinforce gender stereotypes that harm women in STEM fields. — Greg Martin 38 mins ago
When did PC invade PPCG?
 
11:32 AM
@Okx D: your bounty is in grace period
 

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