The Nineteenth Byte

ETHproductions

00:04

From what I can tell, -T is supposed to make it output 0 unless the output is 1

But it does not do so, at least not on TIO

Nathan Merrill

@quartata that's why they added the bot API

Pavel

It's Valve's way of saying 'Nah, let the community do the work for us'

They seem to do that a lot

Nathan Merrill

Oh absolutely. I wouldn't want them spending their time making good bots

That takes a lot of time and effort for very little reward

Pavel

That time could be spent making moar hats for TF2

Nathan Merrill

You know, since developers are artists

Pavel

00:17

Implementing a new particle effect engine for hats for TF2?

Nathan Merrill

Is TF2 on source 2 yet?

Pavel

Only Dota 2 is

With only CS:GO planned to be ported

Nathan Merrill

If not, then I'd imagine that's there next big project for TF2

Destructible Watermelon

hello!

Nathan Merrill

Oh really? TF2 too old?

Pavel

00:19

There's 6 people actively working on it right now.

Matthew Roh

Hi

Pavel

The way that Valve is structured internally, an employee works on whatever project he wants, there is no management to tell you what you should work on.

Hence, TF2 is kind of lost, and Dota get all the love.

Matthew Roh

What do you think about KOTH RPS tournaments?

ETHproductions

I think that's been done before, maybe several times

Matthew Roh

@ETHproductions ah, damn

Pavel

00:22

switch new Random.nextInt(3) {
    case 0:return 'r';case 1:return 'p';case 2:return 's';
}

Actually iirc it's been proposed many times in sandbox but never actually posted.

Nathan Merrill

Yeah. It was one of the first ones on the site: rock paper scissors lizard spock

ETHproductions

This challenge being the nail to hang the duplicate on

Pavel

Oh, didn't know.

Nathan Merrill

Which, is actually much better than a standard RPS contest due to the fact you have more options

Matthew Roh

I knew that question, but mine is regular RPS, and that is RPS+LS

Destructible Watermelon

00:28

I'd say the RPS would be duplicated of RPSLS

Matthew Roh

Ah.

damn.

Mistah Figgins

How long is it customary to leave a post in the sandbox for?

What if it gets literally no votes or comments?

Matthew Roh

let it stay for a week or two

ais523

RPS and RPSLS are very similar from a strategy point of view

Mistah Figgins

What should I do with a post that has been in there for a while, but has received no attention?

ais523

00:38

it depends on whether you personally think it's postable

if there are still things you're unsure about, advertising in here often seems to work in practice

Matthew Roh

Stay there for more time

ais523

if you think it seems fine, just post it and put a comment on the post saying "Sandbox post was [here]"

that tends to shut up the sort of people who close everything reflexively

Mistah Figgins

thanks

Matthew Roh

Or be "f*ck this, I'm gonna post it"

Damn. The site questionblocked me again. Now I have to only answer for a day

@ais523 You mean the hammer dudes?

ais523

no, people with a closehammer tend to be more circumspect about using it

otherwise we probably wouldn't have given them one in the first place

Matthew Roh

00:44

Ah

Then who?

Some Mods?

ais523

it's mostly people who recently got vote-to-close permissions

Mistah Figgins

Oh hey i finally reached 1000 unread emails!

just 24 until a big milestone

Matthew Roh

noice

Now youre fired from your job

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Task Scheduling code-golf Given as input: A unix time at which to first run the program Delay between runs (can be 0) Number of times to run the program (-1 if infinite) A program to be run through the console when triggered Run the program under specified conditions. You can assume your p...

ETHproductions

01:04

Dynamic projection mapping onto deforming non-rigid surface

►

That's just... wow

Mistah Figgins

You could maybe eliminate the use of infrared ink by tracking the distance to the projector by measuring the time it takes the light to get back to the projector.

This would have to be pretty precise though, and you couldn't distinguish multiple images or move them around

Downgoat

01:22

Is it just me or is HTTPS suddenly broken everywhere

Mistah Figgins

not for me, I don't think

LegionMammal978

Aww, they just rescheduled the Atlas V launch for tomorrow :(

Mistah Figgins

01:54

Is there a meta-question that talks about what makes a challenge interesting?

Nathan Merrill

I don't think such a thing exists

New Main Posts

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Q: Springify a String

Sandbox post here. Create a function or program that "Springifies" a string. Input will be a String in Stdin, or closest alternative Input will only contain printable ASCII and/or spaces Output will be to Stdout, or closest alternative A trailing newlines and spaces are acceptable How to spr...

Nathan Merrill

I mean, we are generally interested in math stuff

but, defining what is "interesting" gets into personal opinion and psychology

trichoplax

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Q: What makes a sequence an interesting golf challenge?

We have lots of challenges tagged sequence. What types of sequences make for interesting golf challenges? How can we assess whether a given sequence is worth writing a challenge about? I understand that we need both easy and difficult challenges (for people with different ability levels in thei...

discussion asking-questions

Nathan Merrill

fair enough :P

trichoplax

01:57

Not sure if it was a good idea, but I asked

Nathan Merrill

@MistahFiggins if you are looking for challenge ideas:

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Q: Problems Not Yet Challenged

Sometimes when I get the urge to post a new challenge, I have trouble finding a notable* problem that has not yet been solved upon which to base my challenge (I'm not very creative). I thought it might be cool if we could generate a list of such problems here. Here are some examples that I tried...

discussion

note that that question is 3 years old, so many of the concepts may have been done

I'm fairly positive many of them haven't though

oh, Peter Taylor is updating his post. how nice!

Mistah Figgins

Thanks all

feersum

Any opinions/references on whether it's poor etiquette to solve a challenge while it's in the Sandbox?

Mistah Figgins

I am on the fence about it

On one hand, there's no guaranteed that the question will ever come out of the sandbox, so why not do it for fun, if you find the post interesting?

But if you find it interesting, maybe it should become a post on main instead

feersum

To be clear, the poor etiquette part is when you post your solution that you made while it was in the sandbox to main.

Mistah Figgins

02:11

I think the FGITW effect isn't really a thing here, as most people sort by active AFAIK.

But It might be nice to give others time to find their own solution with the same/a similar language

feersum

It's certainly a thing.

Posting time certainly determines where the votes go more than everything else.

Conor O'Brien

If anyone finds obfuscation interesting: 888 byte Hello, World!

Mistah Figgins

I personally don't vote on the first posts necessarily, nor do I consciously vote on highly voted posts. But I do see your point

I am against it myself (I don't/wouldn't do it)

feersum

@MistahFiggins People who are active posters here make a small minority of votes.

Mistah Figgins

Good point

The problem is that upvote-worthy answers generally take more time to make

And I think this actually applies to almost all SE sites

Which is a big problem

But making answers while the challenge is still in the sandbox gives people more time before voting can commence in a way

So you could even argue that it is a good thing - it gives people who make time-consuming answers more time to do so, so that they receive more upvotes when it comes to main

It would also give them time to polish their answers

But whether or not they actually do is another question - because they can't/possibly won't be able to post their answers, they may spend less time on their answers

ais523

02:26

@MistahFiggins SE doesn't see this as a problem because it means that people get answers that might solve their question quickly, isn't that great?

however, over here on PPCG, quick answers aren't particularly helpful for the asker

Mistah Figgins

mmm

ais523

and in fact they often actively hurt by making it hard to improve the question

Mistah Figgins

SE is not only a Q/A site, but a place to look up your question that someone else already had.

(Which is why SO has hardly any potential asking left)

So its better if the browsers of SE see the better answer first rather than the quick one

But we can't really fix that problem (if it even is one)

@ais523 That's one of the main reasons I see for discouraging premature solving

But if it was in the sandbox, it should in theory need little to no changing once on main

ais523

well, I've made no secret of how much I generally hate SE

it's why I took so long to join this site

I still hate SE, by the way, and it detracts from my enjoyment of the site but apparently not enough to make me leave (because I also like golf)

Mistah Figgins

I think when we level up as a site, things are going to get better to some extent

El'endia Starman

02:32

As of this moment and indefinitely, I will be suspending my moderator actions and maybe even stop chatting altogether in The Nineteenth Byte.

As a moderator, I try to enforce the will of the community. I don't know what that is anymore. There are a couple loud people on both sides, for noise and against noise, and a bunch of quiet people who don't say anything. I've tried to do my part in determining what "noise" is and controlling it, but now it seems to me that you guys would rather have a noisy chatroom. (http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/34880858#34880858) I don't feel l…

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DJMcMayhem

I can't blame you, but I'm still really sad... :(

Nathan Merrill

@El'endiaStarman you'll still be in Pytek?

Mistah Figgins

I think it's like a party where everyone is trying to have separate conversations in an enclosed and echoey space

ais523

I've long since become resigned to the fact that chatrooms are rarely about what I want them to be about

and eventually, sometimes you have to go where the users are

that said, I really agree with @El'endiaStarman (as in, I share the same opinions, modulo the fact that I'm not a moderator); I think that it would be preferable if the chat were primarily ontopic, but I also think that I'm in the minority

Mistah Figgins

I think the solution to "noise" could be the creation of temporary, separate chat rooms for those who want to make pun chains or spam emojis. I don't know the specifics of how this might work, etc, but it seems ok to me in theory

ais523

02:37

it's normally easy enough to persuade people to use a separate room for things that are actually just repeated messages or the like

but most spam/noise is much harder to objectively define

and a large proportion of people will often be fine with it

Mistah Figgins

They may not even notice that it bothers some people

DJMcMayhem

FWIW, I agreed with and starred the message he referred to, because I definitely do agree with it, but not because I want a noisy room. I agree with it because I'm tired of all the discussion of noise that is completely necessary because of the users who insist on creating noise. I think that's a subtle difference.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman thank you for the huge amount of work you've done here, and see you around, hopefully!

feersum

Let me be the first to say I'm tired of all the discussion of all the discussion of noise.

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman :( I am really sad to hear that... I really appreciate all the effort you have taken to cut down noise in TNB and am honestly sorry if I have ever impeded in it, which makes me even more sad to see you go :'( I think most of us can still agree you've been an extremely helpful moderator in here and valuable contributor too.

quartata

02:41

@El'endiaStarman Well crap. I wish the communiy didn't need a frying pan.

But I guess it was coming to this sooner or later

Mistah Figgins

I think we should all work towards fixing or minimizing whatever problems there are. I am sorry to see you go @El'endiaStarman and I'm in support of you, but I just wish there was a way to change things in a way that makes (almost) all happy

ais523

@MistahFiggins I'm pretty sure there isn't; online communities only reach a critical-mass size if people disagree as to what they're about (because they can't be perfect for everyone), but either don't know or don't care

Mistah Figgins

The more people there are, the more divided they can be on various issues

ais523

in a way I kind-of envy a room where reducing offtopic discussion is the worst problem it has

I've tried to moderate a room with over 2000 people in it, before now, with no moderator powers

that's a case of realising when the conversation is about something excessively objectionable and derailing it intentionally with a conversation that's pointless but harmless; that's about the best you can hope for

in here I'd hope we can do rather better than that

Matthew Roh

Hi

Anonymous

02:56

@El'endiaStarman I'm gonna miss you, man. You are always a beacon of sanity in this room. Thanks for everything you've done, and I hope we can make chat better so that you will feel welcome again.

Matthew Roh

@El'endiaStarman Hope you could come back someday, Like I did!

DJMcMayhem

You left for very different reasons

Matthew Roh

I know

Pavel

Does anyone know if java has a good way of comparing arrays of primitives? That is, does new int[]{5,5,5}==new int[]{5,5,5} or does that not work?

Matthew Roh

I think that wouldnt work.

ais523

03:01

@Pavel I strongly suspect there's a utility method for the purpose somewhere, maybe Arrays

Matthew Roh

new allocates data on an empty heap space and returns its pointer, so It wouldn't.

You could at least try though.

Pavel

Oh right, Arrays. Forgot about that.

Anonymous

@feersum I'm tired, too. I wish we as a community could just agree on some very basic standards of acceptable social behavior. I believe the standards I outlined here are suitable for this room. But even if my proposal isn't the one we go with, I just want the issue to be settled, so we can go back to chatting without hourly debates on what is and isn't acceptable here.

5

Matthew Roh

gtg

Lunch

Pavel

Yay! Arrays has, get this, not only equals which is overloaded for every primitive array, but also DeepEquals, which works for arrays of Objects in a useful way!

Honestly, they need to merge java.util and java.lang

Matthew Roh

03:04

True

tbh they have to include util and lang by default kek

Pavel

Both Groovy and Kotlin do that.

Anonymous

I posted that proposal 2 weeks ago. Since then, it's gotten decent support (+11/-3), and no other solutions have been proposed (the other two answers, both by xnor, identify the current problems rather than propose a solution). There's even stronger support (+18/-4) for my proposal of electing more room owners. I think that's enough support on both of them to move forward with them. It's up to the mods and current ROs now to implement them.

PhiNotPi

woo room owners

Pavel

03:26

Error:Abnormal build process termination:
"C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-9\bin\java" -Xmx700m -Djava.awt.headless=true -Djdt.compiler.useSingleThread=true -Dcompile.parallel=false -Drebuild.on.dependency.change=true -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Dio.netty.initialSeedUniquifier=5506676748000734276 -Djava.ext.dirs=\"\" -Dfile.encoding=windows-1252 -Djps.file.types.component.name=CommunityFileTypes -Duser.language=en -Duser.country=US -Didea.paths.selector=IdeaIC2016.3 "-Didea.home.path=C:\Program Files (x86)\JetBrains\IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition 2016.3" -Didea.config.path=C:\Users\Pavel\.I…

Halp?

Anyone recognise this?

(Switching to Java 1.8 fixes, only occurs in Java 9)

Anonymous

@Pavel Some searching led me to this. Is your netty version (or something that uses it) out of date?

Pavel

Uhh... it's not an external library, so no.

Anonymous

Aha, found the problem: intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/…

Anonymous

You need to use a newer build of IntelliJ

Pavel

Ahh. You know, I specnt half an hour of google-fu before asking here.

I am very bad at google.

Anonymous

03:31

It really just comes down to knowing what to search for

Anonymous

My query was

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class io.netty.util.internal.PlatformDependent0	at io.netty.util.internal.PlatformDependent.<clinit>

Anonymous

About halfway down the search results was the bug report for IntelliJ

Pavel

Mine was Error:Abnormal build process termination: in Java 9. It gave a ton of results, none of which with proper answers

Anonymous

Usually copying the first exception message works

Pavel

Oh, brilliant, I don't need to update IntelliJ, I need to switch to the Early Access Program build.

Anonymous

03:36

Fun!

Pavel

On the other hand, I'm finally getting syntax highliting for regex, which is cool.

Anonymous

I guess that's what you have to put up with if you want to use a language that is 6 months away from its public release :P

Pavel

Yeah.

Mistah Figgins

Can we submit 2 languages for the time capsule?

Pavel

Sure

Mistah Figgins

03:43

And can/should I release the language early?

Pavel

Go ahead

Mistah Figgins

My Sfear language is coming along slowly, because I'm working on a way to reliably lay out a certain number of points on the surface of a sphere in a (semi-)symmetrical pattern.

Pavel

WOOT! EMOJI SUPPORT IN INTELLIJ

SO HAPPY RN

Mistah Figgins

03:59

OOPs, i realized I have 8 java classes called "Main" across all my projects...

Downgoat

@TuxCopter are you there? May I request french assistance in Le dix-neuvieme byte? >_>

ATaco

I have created a wrapper for Lua to make it golfable.

Hello world is now p^H.

Pavel

Really? Hello world builtins?

ATaco

Yes.

w((char*(90)(65))()) prints the alphabet to console.

Anonymous

@Pavel Yep

ATaco

04:06

So does w((_c*(90)(65))())p(), but only sometimes.

Anonymous

To be fair, 1) I did it before everyone else started doing it, and 2) it was primarily to serve as a simple test that the command parsing was working properly when I first started writing the interpreter.

ATaco

Also, Non-deterministic functions FTW.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Binary clock Once I've made a design for special clock for people with low vision. Therefore numbers are printed in specific binary notation (explanation follows). So this is not code-golf and the goal is to make nice text mode design, also different op.systems can be used and any characters all...

Mistah Figgins

04:41

How would one enter non-printable ASCII into TIO?

Pavel

You would enter it somewhere else and copy+paste

Or go to bash and pipe a reverse xxd into the language of choice.

Mistah Figgins

Thanks

Anonymous

@MistahFiggins TIO uses the CP437 dingbats for the control characters. ALT+<ordinal> will get you those characters.

Anonymous

So if you wanted a bell (BEL, 0x07) character, you'd use ALT+7, giving you •

Anonymous

At least, that was the case with TIO v1

Anonymous

04:49

I don't think Dennis changed it for Nexus, though I could be mistaken. The only times I need 0x00-0x1F are when using Actually, which uses CP437 anyway.

Mistah Figgins

Not sure it works on nexus... maybe v2?

Doesn't work for me - that's ok, I have another way

Qwerp-Derp

05:09

Hello

I have a Java question

betseg

Yay \o/

Qwerp-Derp

Why does this have a white background in LWJGL:

package com.qwerpderp.lonetree;

import static org.lwjgl.glfw.GLFW.*;
import static org.lwjgl.opengl.GL11.*;
import org.lwjgl.glfw.GLFWVidMode;
import org.lwjgl.opengl.GL;

public class Main {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        if (!glfwInit()) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("Failed to access GLFW.");
        }

        glfwWindowHint(GLFW_VISIBLE, 0);
        long window = glfwCreateWindow(800, 600, "Hello World", 0, 0);

        if (window == 0) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("Failed to open window.");

It's very bad LWJGL code but bear with me

I kinda want to post a polyglotted version of this, so that every answer must work in two languages:

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Q: Do you know that language?

Task: Your challenge is, given previous submissions and itself as input, output the language that they're written in, in the following format: Say the first program is in Ruby. It must output 1, because Ruby is the 1st language used in this challenge. An example program is: a=gets puts 1 Whe...

answer-chaining

And there must be two outputs

That challenge might seem interesting

@Pavel Are you on?

Pavel

I am, but I'm also busy manually fixing all 50000 warnings in my friend's code.

Qwerp-Derp

Oh

@El'endiaStarman IMO I think you're overreacting a bit - there's bound to be some noise, anyway. Trying to control every bit of noise is nigh impossible. You're kinda acting like noise is this "evil thing" that needs to be eradicated and burned with fire (that's kind of an exaggeration, but you get my point). I think my opinion's probably because I create some noise as well, and I don't see a big issue with it.

Pavel

05:25

Honestly, he knows LWJGL better than me. I'll ask him. What's the expected behavior?

Qwerp-Derp

Uhh I'm expecting a red rectangle on a 800*600 window

The background should be black as well

But the whole window is white, there's nothing at all

Destructible Watermelon

hello!

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon Java is hard :( but hello

@Pavel If you can spare the time, can you send the code over? I mainly got the code from a tutorial anyway, so don't judge if my code is crap

Pavel

Well, I asked my friend. Everything seems right.

New Main Posts

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Q: Don't give me five!

Question : You get the start number and the end number of a region and should return the count of all numbers except numbers with a 5 in it. The start and the end number are both inclusive! Examples: 1,9 -> 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9 -> Result 8 4,17 -> 4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,16,17 -> Resu...

math

Pavel

05:32

Maybe the clearcolor function is silly and treats 0,0,0 as white and 1,1,1 as black? I've seen that before.

FIGURED IT OUT

Destructible Watermelon

I hate it when you're playing chess and the other guy is a dick and has to promote all their pawns

Pavel

Actually maybe not

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel Figured out what

Pavel

Your problem

Then I realized I didn't

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel The 1,1,1 thing doesn't work, it's still white

For some strange reason

Pavel

05:34

Try setting the alpha to 0?

Qwerp-Derp

Still doesn't work

The same white screen

Pavel

;-;

glEnable(GL11.GL_TEXTURE_2D);
glClearColor(0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f);
glEnable(GL11.GL_BLEND);
glBlendFunc(GL11.GL_SRC_ALPHA, GL11.GL_ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA);
glViewport(0,0,width,height);
glMatrixMode(GL11.GL_MODELVIEW);
glMatrixMode(GL11.GL_PROJECTION);
glLoadIdentity();
glOrtho(0, width, height, 0, 1, -1);
glMatrixMode(GL11.GL_MODELVIEW);

ATaco

Try setting alpha to 255..?

Pavel

I don't know what half of that does

But it's what's in my friends' project

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel The only function I recognise is glClearColor

Pavel

05:38

Yeah, me too.

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon What about people that promote to rooks just to rub it in?

Destructible Watermelon

@Qwerp-Derp one time I was watching some guys play chess

one of them claimed to play in competitions

he was one of these people

the best part though, is in the end the game was a draw

because of a stalemate

he didn't know chess rules very well

he said he prefers "classic chess"

with no en passant or stalemate

well, he thought stalemate was the 50 move rule

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon facepalms

Destructible Watermelon

he thought en passant

Qwerp-Derp

@Pavel So, any luck with your (and my) LWJGL thing?

Destructible Watermelon

05:46

wait for it

was a house rule

Pavel

No

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon Just stop you're making me cringe too much I'm dying of cringe right now

Destructible Watermelon

he didn't even know what the FIDE was

I think he said something about how this wasn't france

or whichever country it was

or doubted they were official

@Qwerp-Derp he thought that when a stalemate occurred whoever had the most points won

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which is even dumber since points aren't even a part of the game

betseg

Plz stop

Destructible Watermelon

He thought en passant was a house rule, I showed him the official rules, he then says he plays classic chess

which is weird because this version of chess must have been around for >100 years I think

and I don't think at any point stalemate was a win decided by points

@Qwerp-Derp did you died?

Qwerp-Derp

05:57

@DestructibleWatermelon Nope still here, still cringing really hard

Destructible Watermelon

I can't remember, but I think I might have played chess with him

if I did, he got destroyed

its always fun playing with the people who think they are the greatest and using scholars mate on them

:P

ATaco

I made a Wrapper for Lua to make it golfable! :D github.com/TehFlaminTaco/Goluaf

Destructible Watermelon

@ATaco wasn't it golfable before with golflua?

ATaco

golflua..?

betseg

@DestructibleWatermelon Dunning-Kruger Effect

ATaco

06:01

Close, although golflua interprets it, this simply is a wrapper.

Destructible Watermelon

@betseg nah, its more like its more satisfying to destroy someone with full confidence in their ability than some newbie who knows they aren't very good

actually (tvtropes link) Break the haughty

betseg

@DestructibleWatermelon I mean, that guy has the effect "people who think they are the greatest"

Destructible Watermelon

@betseg I know, but thats the effect of not knowing he is bad

betseg

Lol

Destructible Watermelon

I'm speaking of the effect of the satisfaction of him being taken to school twice in one day

the first being literal, the second figurative if you didn't get it

betseg

06:04

Btw, from Wikipedia:

> The en passant capture rule was added in the 15th century

Destructible Watermelon

heh

Qwerp-Derp

06:19

@Pavel Still no luck with your thing? That nut looks like it's tough to crack.

Destructible Watermelon

It's weird that chess sets don't have enough pieces to play

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon ??? What do you mean

Destructible Watermelon

most sets only have two knights for example

when you could promote to a knight

Destructible Watermelon

06:35

anyway, so you're working on java @Qwerp-Derp?

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon Yeah, working with LWJGL

search it up

Destructible Watermelon

LWJGL?

ok

I was kind of thinking about making graphical games recently

I didn't want to use pygame because thats didn't seem suitable for my purposes, and I didn't want all the stuff unity has

cool game idea I had: Towerfall but 3d FPS

not exactly original but it would be cool

Qwerp-Derp

Pygame is pretty bad

Destructible Watermelon

I might use it for koth graphics though

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon You could use Unreal or smth, but you'd have to learn UnrealScript

You can use something like LWJGL (but you'd have to learn Java)

Or you can go with C++, there's an infinite amount of libraries

Destructible Watermelon

06:42

"stick with c++"

Qwerp-Derp

The reason I'm not using C++ is because it's a pain to setup on Windows

Destructible Watermelon

I would have to know c++ for that first

Qwerp-Derp

Java is really easy to setup, you just have to install JDK and get a decent IDE, and you're practically done

You can just import libraries

For C++ you have to build and do all sorts of fiddly stuff (like gcc command line stuff, makeC - whatever that was, and just random things everywhere)

Destructible Watermelon

I remember watching a thing on tv about infinity and stuff

and there was one guy who was like a mathematician or something who believed in integer overflow in real life

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he thought that if you went high enough it would just go to zero

I thought that was really odd thing to think but the show didn't make any comment like that

I kind of wondered how he managed to pass whatever course he took

I'm getting stars left and right here

betseg

07:01

@DestructibleWatermelon an upside down rook?

Destructible Watermelon

@betseg but what if no rooks have been captured

betseg

Derp

wat

07:30

how do i even solve this

Qwerp-Derp

07:48

I learned a valuable lesson today

Programming = Google + Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V

Destructible Watermelon

08:02

@Qwerp-Derp not necessarily

I use duckduckgo

Qwerp-Derp

@DestructibleWatermelon Pls no

Destructible Watermelon

what do you mean pls no

Qwerp-Derp

Duckduckgo why

Destructible Watermelon

because its a search engine

why google?

@wat how many bags of type b till the ratio of oats to corn is as close to 1:3

Zgarb

08:19

Why do people keep upvoting this?

Fatalize

@Zgarb Probably because 1) this question topped HQN 2) most people don't know Haskell

Zgarb

And probably don't bother to read comments. Oh well, it's no big deal but still.

devRicher

All of these in one minute, I believe I'm victim of serial voting

Kritixi Lithos