The Nineteenth Byte

ais523

22:03

@quartata most of the object naming rules are open-coded in src/objnam.c; if you're trying to override an item class name, like you seem to be, obj_typename is a good function to change; you'd probably also need to change xname or xname_flags (depending on what version of NetHack you're working from) because NetHack has quite a bit of code duplication

DrMcMoylex

@wat It's only interesting in low-level languages like C or tarpits like brain-flak/fuck or hexagony. In every higher-level language, it's trivial with or without builtins, so you tried putting on duct-tape to block all the obvious approaches, which is never a good idea because languages are so different it's hard to tell what's OK and what isn't.

Just my two cents

wat

@DrMcMoylex That's EXACTLY what happened.

...these are the most insane password requirements ever copyright.gov/eco/help-password-userid.html

DrMcMoylex

It got better when you relaxed the restrictions, except that it's still pretty trivial

ais523

the ban on ampersands is really curious, it implies the password's being stored insecurely at some point

wat

but the social security and word bans are what got me

like, I can't use the number 24 in there now

and I can't use the letter a or I

ais523

22:11

I can see the reasoning behind wanting people not to use their SSN in a password

wat

@ais523 True

ais523

also, the spelling dictionary on this computer contains all individual leteters

so taking that post literally it's impossible to generate a valid password

wat

...

that's my point

also, you can't use two consecutive repeated characters

like wtf

why

all my passwords are something like ThereAreBeesOnMyCeiling

BlueEyedBeast

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Q: GUYs I juSt Reached Onee HundrEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD SUBS!!! XD

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKK SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKKSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKKSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

programming-puzzle

Wow spam

daHugLenny

wtf

BlueEyedBeast

22:13

remember to flag as spam and not vote to close

wat

Several consecutive words and all lowercase/uppercase letters

This totally bans CHBS passwords as well

Downgoat

@TuxCopter wanna join in next game

ais523

wow that spam was cleaned quickly

DrMcMoylex

@BlueEyedBeast it's not spam, it's rude or abusive. Same consequences, tracked differently

ais523

I was planning to flag as spam but it looks like it got six flags already

oh yes, abusive

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22:15

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Q: The Most Durable Pokemon Types

In Pokemon there are 18 types: Normal Fighting Flying Poison Ground Rock Bug Ghost Steel Fire Water Grass Electric Psychic Ice Dragon Dark Fairy Pokemon have either one or two unique types that define them. For example, a Bulbasaur is Grass/Poison and a Char...

code-golf

DrMcMoylex

@ais523 You wanna know why?

in Charcoal HQ, 2 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: GUYs I juSt Reached Onee HundrEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD SUBS!!! XD by Mike Szer on codegolf.stackexchange.com (@dorukayhan @DrMcMoylex)

wat

> Six Flags

Dada

@ais523 I saw you answers about throwing a SIGILL, and it reminds me of a way I like about how to throw a segfault in Perl (it probably depends on you perl version tho) which I like a lot :
perl -Mthreads -Mencoding=utf8 -e 'threads->create(sub{})'

(too many "I like" in that sentence :x )

wat

testing my pastebin now

ais523

hmm, I'm not aware of what threads->create does (I can guess from the name, though); is it expected to take an argument that doesn't return?

wat

22:18

files.dkudriavtsev.xyz/uploads/2016-11-20_14-18-47.txt

Dada

it just create a new threads which runs the sub passed in argument

but the issue is with -Mencoding=utf8

it's deprecated, and for some good reasons

ais523

right, I just realised that that was a utf8y flag I didn't recognise

Dada

and when used with the module threads, creating new threads causes segault

ais523

there's -Mopen=utf8 and -Mutf8, which are sane

Dada

First time I noticed that, it took me a while to debug it... when perl says "segmentation fault (core dumped)", you know you're gonna have a hard time

ais523

22:21

-Mencoding is worrying though

Dada

yea, I use -Mutf8 know, but when I started with perl I was using -Mencoding=utf8

ais523

incidentally, -Mthreads is also deprecated, or at least discouraged

because it doesn't really do what it was designed to do

Dada

oh, that's something I hadn't noticed!

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Q: Generate /* line number comments */

Your task is to write a program (or function) that will take a string as input and append text to the beginning of every line that satisfy the following rules: The text appended must contain the line number. You may use 0- or 1-based indexing. The text must be a comment in your language. A comm...

code-golf code-generation comment

Dada

@ais523 any idea which core module we are supposed to use to create and manipulate threads then?

ais523

22:30

so the basic problem is that Perl doesn't really have any threading libraries which are more efficient than just doing things in a single-threaded way

so the only reason you'd use threads would be for programming styles which use them to make things clearer, which given how confusing Perl threads are, seems slightly self-defeating

I'm not sure if there is an official way to do threads right now, but it's not something I've been keeping up with

Dada

ok it makes sense. It's pretty sad though, threads are very convenient for a lot of (specific) applications..

ais523

in general, Perl is held back from many applications where it would otherwise be appropriate by its shocking performance qualities

I wrote a build system in Perl

but it's not portable because it uses about 1 GB of memory

Dada

you say "shocking" as "bad", right?

ais523

I'm planning to rewrite it to delegate much of the actual data storage work to SQLite, meaning that Perl's inefficiency doesn't touch data that isn't actively being worked on

"shocking" as in "you'd be surprised by it, and not in a good way"

it's not unusable though

you just have to be careful about what applications you use it in

if it isn't performance-sensitive, the speed of writing Perl can often compensate for the slowness of actually running the program

Dada

I noticed a while ago that Perl's performance are quite horrible when it comes to algorithmic/mathematic codes or stuffs like that

more than once I started a project with Perl, and when I ran it, I saw that it would take days to complete the computation and had to switch to Java or C ^^

Like that time I had the very bad idea of writing a virtual machine in Perl, or the time I implemented Eratosthenes sieve in Perl to compute primes bellow 1 billion... You don't want to try those!

quartata

23:13

@ais523 OK thanks. I'm working on 3.6 fwiw

xnor

@ais523 hey, are you the person making the nethack TAS?

quartata

I swear this room has to be the highest concentration of Nethack folk I've ever seen on the internet outside of IRC (and Nethack focused places obviously)

xnor

i think even non-Nethack players can appreciate the ridiculousness of this: nethack4.org/pastebin/new-2003-turn-plan.txt

Downgoat

Question: can i return an object which has a method and call that the function?

e.g {f:s=>s}

Maltysen

yeah

i think

quartata

23:23

@Downgoat I need to see the console output for when the relay broke

Maltysen

@Downgoat that's just an object which has the identity as .f

Downgoat

@quartata cant exactly

this doesn't let me scroll up

quartata

If you have condump on check the log

check all the logs

ais523

@xnor yes, one of htem

xnor

i'm a fan

welcome to PPCG

though if you're sucked into golfing, I guess there's no hope of the TAS getting finished :)

ais523

23:26

@xnor also that's an old link, you should probably use this link which automatically goes to the latest version of the endgame plan

xnor

thanks

wat

Test, please ignore:

arda

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Zacharee1

23:44

@arda I think it's just an excuse to boast three monitors :p

although 3 16:10 monitors is weird

Downgoat

23:57

@wat you should really get your SSL fixed

wat

@Downgoat I specifically don't have an SSL cert on the files.dkudriavtsev.xyz domain. The main domain has one though.

@Zacharee1 not really, I was testing ShareX

@Zacharee1 No it's not. 16:10 monitors are amazing.

Zacharee1

@wat I hope they aren't OLED

but why are they amazing?

wat

@Zacharee1 I prefer the aspect ratio to 16:9. it just looks more natural.

It's closer to the golden ratio

Zacharee1

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