The Nineteenth Byte

Erik the Golfer

15:05

@Dennis possibly

Yodle

Question: why does the Community user keep protecting the sandbox thread followed by a mod unprotecting it every so often?

Poke

my guess would be that the community user protecting it is happening automatically

Yodle

I figured that, maybe because there's so many answers to it?

TuxCopter

It keep protecting it because many answers are deleted

Geobits

Yeah, it detects lots of answers (and deleted ones) as "this is attracting crap" IIRC

TuxCopter

15:15

Yep

Yodle

Ooooh, and we want it unprotected so that new users can post to it

TuxCopter

Neat this question have 123 upvotes

@Yodle Exactly

Geobits

More importantly, I just got a Nice Answer badge on Skeptics.

TuxCopter

On what answer?

Geobits

Uh, something about clown laws.

TuxCopter

15:17

srs

Geobits

Seriously

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits Well, you changed your avatar. Again.

Geobits

And you didn't. Now that we have our status checks out of the way...

Poke

ping

TuxCopter

@Poke ICMP PONG, a lot of ms

Poke

15:19

Well now I have my status check out of the way

Erik the Golfer

@Poke pong

Poke

Unexpected input on line 0. Received data: pong

RST

Erik the Golfer

@Poke print("Hello, World!")

Poke

Hello, World!

TuxCopter

@Poke public class A{public static void main(String[]a){System.out.println("Hai");}}

Poke

15:21

Hai

TimmyD

@Poke Fun fact, when I was in college, the CS department (who was halfway integrated with the IT department) had a server named PONG -- its sole responsibility was to function as a network connectivity test. It had multiple interfaces and was technically "on" every logically separated network.

Poke

@TimmyD That sounds like a security concern

mbomb007

Is Zzo38 on PPCG?

Erik the Golfer

@Poke print(__import__('sys').version)

#swear last one

TimmyD

If I remember right, it was some minified Linux distro that they compiled from scratch. Essentially it had only the basics needed to perform that function.

Poke

15:23

@EriktheGolfer Access Denied.

Erik the Golfer

@Poke oh gosh i cant see python version now :(

Poke

Check your file permissions

TuxCopter

@Poke f=lambda f:f(f);f(f)

Poke

@TimmyD I dunno... people are pretty crafty

TuxCopter

(lemme burn the world plz)

TimmyD

15:25

Of course, that same college also had my favorite professor quote of all time -- "How can access be denied?! I am God!"

Poke

@TuxCopter Sandboxed computation timed out.

Erik the Golfer

@TuxCopter this takes a function f. then, it executes it with itself as an argument. pointless

Geobits

My file permissions all scream 666 at me :o

Kritixi Lithos

vi vi vi = 666

TuxCopter

@EriktheGolfer It segfault my python

Poke

15:26

@Geobits Seems right to me. You're the only one who uses your computer after all, right?

TuxCopter

def f():
 try:
  f()
 except:
  f()
f()

Another neat way to segfault

Geobits

@Poke Nope. Minibits has his own user. Plus, was yolk.

Poke

well turns out you're screwed

gonna go read all your docs now

TuxCopter

?

Erik the Golfer

@TuxCopter well, you gave f as an argument of f. f will then execute f with the argument f which will be executed with the argument f...

Geobits

15:28

@Poke Have fun. If you come back scarred for life, don't say I didn't warn you :D

Poke

I see all the usual suspects here in your documents folder

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits What do you mean?

Poke

first 1000 digits of pi

Geobits

@Poke Did you find passwords.txt yet? That's a good one.

Poke

2fa recovery codes

is that one in a subfolder?

Geobits

15:29

Oh right. It's in the one called secret

Poke

oh gotcha

there is no reason to talk about me like that in your password :|

mbomb007

I'm looking at the specs for the esolang Memfractal, and there doesn't seem to be a clear description of where execution starts, how input/output happens, or even what order the "bits" should be read from the fractal when considering memory.

Geobits

@Poke Umm, I meant some other Poke, I swear >_>

Poke

@Geobits ah ok common mistake. my apologies

time for my prelunch meeting

Geobits

Funnily enough, I do have a disproportionate amount of files on my computer that start with "poke"

Poke

15:30

byebye

mbomb007

adios

Kritixi Lithos

farvel

mbomb007

@Geobits Probably all those pokemon files...

Geobits

Most likely :)

Kritixi Lithos

Pokemon Go...

Erik the Golfer

15:31

γεια

Kritixi Lithos

Geia?

TuxCopter

Gaia = Earth

But IDK for geia

mbomb007

Gaia is the neutral player in Age of Empires

Geobits

Gaia is an Illusion

Kritixi Lithos

I have AOE3, and there is no Geia or Gaia

mbomb007

15:32

AOE3 doesn't exist.

Kritixi Lithos

I have it

mbomb007

We don't talk about the abomination.

Kritixi Lithos

There is no abomination

It's just plain ol' Age of Empires 3

Erik the Golfer

@KritixiLithos It's γεια, roughly transliterated as gheia, meaning bye. A better transliteration would be ya.

mbomb007

I suppose that's why nobody plays AOE3, but everyone still plays AOE2

Kritixi Lithos

15:33

I used to play AOE3

Geobits

Illusion of Gaia is still better than any AOE:

Kritixi Lithos

@EriktheGolfer Or yea

@Geobits When did it come out?

TuxCopter

Yeah

mbomb007

I just had an amazing idea for an esolang!

Erik the Golfer

@KritixiLithos No, that is γιεα, γιαια or γυαια, a word that doesn't exist.

TuxCopter

15:35

:O:O:O

Geobits

@KritixiLithos mid-90s I think. SNES time, so, yeah.

Erik the Golfer

@mbomb007 What is it?

@Geobits SNES reminds me of... oh gosh.

mbomb007

I'm going to do it, so just wait and see.

TuxCopter

noice, I just found a scoping error in JLisp

Kritixi Lithos

@Geobits lol, I wasn't even born then

Erik the Golfer

15:36

@KritixiLithos Are you from the 2000s too?

Geobits

@KritixiLithos Yeah, most kids weren't :P

Erik the Golfer

Also, who knows what AOE is? I'm a retro gamer, not a video gamer.

Fatalize

Age of Empire

TuxCopter

> I'm a retro gamer, not a video gamer.

AOE is a retro game

Erik the Golfer

I meant it in another sense.

Fatalize

15:39

Kids these days, don't even know about WOLOLO

mbomb007

@Fatalize :'(

TuxCopter

And how can you be retro gamer but not video gamer o_O

Erik the Golfer

Yeah, I don't do series, I only do one-piece games.

@TuxCopter Playing retro games, not 2000s and 2010 video-games.

Emigna

AoE came in the 90's though

mbomb007

@Fatalize When you're hungry: 3

TuxCopter

15:40

Even games in 1980 were video games

Erik the Golfer

At the time.... now they are also called retro games, something modern games aren't.

Geobits

I played "retro" games when they came out, so I guess I win?

TuxCopter

WOLOLO

Fatalize

shhh hah

@Geobits Playing retro games doesn't count when the player is also retro

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Erik the Golfer

@TuxCopter Please do not click the link, it's harmful for humanity's sense of hearing.

TuxCopter

15:42

That's just a new-generation rickroll

Kritixi Lithos

@EriktheGolfer Yes

Geobits

@Fatalize Says the young kid trying to sound retro ;)

Fatalize

I'm not that young :(

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits I think trying to look the opposite, but hiding the truth... 1990s kids do not deserve to be called retro-gamers, they are retro themselves.

Geobits

And wololo isn't that old :P

mbomb007

15:43

I'm a rebel. I played Age of Empires before I was 13.

Kritixi Lithos

I played the first Mario game Donkey Kong (which is from the 1980s I think) online

@mbomb007 Me too!

mbomb007

I gotta admit, we didn't know how to change the difficulty at first, so we got screwed by the Moderate AI.

Erik the Golfer

@KritixiLithos Donkey... King? That was counterfeit!

mbomb007

I also didn't know that building villagers was a good strat.

Kritixi Lithos

Moderate is pretty tough

@EriktheGolfer Er... I meant Donkey Kong

mbomb007

15:45

@KritixiLithos When you only have 3 villagers, anything is tough.

Kritixi Lithos

I didn't build houses

Yeah, I couldn't get more than 20 people

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos I only explored by building towers.

Their sight range explored for me.

Kritixi Lithos

I built trading posts

Erik the Golfer

Also, why do some people (including mbomb007, TimmyD) still have Halloween avatars???

Geobits

Because it doesn't matter at all, most likely.

mbomb007

15:46

@EriktheGolfer What do you mean?

Erik the Golfer

@mbomb007 TimmyD still has the Halloween avatar, as you can see on the right.

Kritixi Lithos

The trains going through the trading posts gave me a ton of vision

confusedandamused

Anyone know where I can start learning about compilers? Ideally relating to C#?

TuxCopter

The Dragon book

Kritixi Lithos

Microsoft

TuxCopter

15:47

^ no

betseg

Open Group

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos I was amazed when my dad got to the bronze age.

I'd never made it past the tool age.

Or w/e the 2nd age was called.

Kritixi Lithos

My dad played really good, he taught me the game and tips and tricks

confusedandamused

@TuxCopter No to the dragon book or no to Microsoft

Kritixi Lithos

My dad got to level 100+ on the Ottoman so that it was easy when I played using the Ottoman empire

TuxCopter

15:49

No to Micro$oft! REVOLUTION!!!!!!

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos Another game I grew up with (I got it in a cereal box): Chex Quest

Erik the Golfer

@TuxCopter Spit it out, come on! No to Micro$oft!

Emigna

@EriktheGolfer All hallows Eve is tomorrow, so it's still topical :)

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos Level?

MetaEd

@EriktheGolfer Because boo.

TuxCopter

15:50

:O

Erik the Golfer

@MetaEd Boo... it's Movember now, put a mustache!

Kritixi Lithos

@mbomb007 The level of your place/character

Geobits

@EriktheGolfer I'd be shocked if half the people in this room could grow a mustache worthy of Movember.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@PhiNotPi The Java question got onto the HNQ and I woke up to this

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos Age of Empires 3?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

15:51

TuxCopter

noice

Kritixi Lithos

@mbomb007 Yes. But I don't remember if it was called level, maybe somehting else

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits If collective, it will grow enough. I might put one up too, if the desire goes high enough, because it is team work.

mbomb007

laaame

TimmyD

@EriktheGolfer Pumpkins are still a November thing ...

Fatalize

15:51

Does it count if I am too lazy to shave?

Kritixi Lithos

@mbomb007 How much did you get to?

MetaEd

My next avatar picture will be a poppy.

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos I played AOE and AOE2, which are both better.

Erik the Golfer

@VTCAKAVSMoACE What? I have experience higher numbers on that.

Kritixi Lithos

@mbomb007 What no! They have worse graphics to start with

TuxCopter

15:52

+100 for the assoc bonus lol

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos The gameplay is better. Ask anyone. They're even rated higher.

Geobits

I never understood why people liked any AoE game, personally.

TuxCopter

@Geobits WOLOLO

Now you like it

mbomb007

@Geobits Well, they're better than Stronghold

TimmyD

@KritixiLithos Really? You're basing how good a game is on its graphics? :-/

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Kritixi Lithos

15:53

The strategy is so intense in AoE

Geobits

@mbomb007 That's not much of an argument :P

mbomb007

@Geobits :D

Erik the Golfer

@TuxCopter I don't think so. I have had over 2k for assoc bonus (all communities of course).

Kritixi Lithos

@TimmyD No, I mean I haven't played them, just watched a friend play AoE2 and its graphics sucked

I like low-graphic games like NetHack, though

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos It is still being developed on, even. They released a new expansion a couple years ago, along with an HD version. All new graphics.

TimmyD

15:54

@KritixiLithos Donny, you're out of your element.

Geobits

Nethack isn't "low-graphics", it's just Rogue with a skin.

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos Rather low graphics than horrible gameplay like AoE 3

You can't even kill the explorers. They just lay on the ground and cry until you rescue them.

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TimmyD

Nethack is "low-graphics" in the same way that Zork is "low-graphics" -- i.e., none.

Geobits

@TimmyD Graphics can be a bad experience. Not because they're old or "bad" by today's standards, but if they're jarring, mismatched, or not well done, it can drag down an otherwise decent game.

Kritixi Lithos

15:56

But to watch the gameplay in AoE2 hurts my eyes

TuxCopter

@TimmyD NetHack have more 'graphics' than Zork though

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos Uh huh, sure. At least I don't turn in "cards" for units.

TimmyD

Geo, Tux -- both true.

Kritixi Lithos

@mbomb007 Having decks of cards is a critical part of the strategy. You require different hand-made decks for different maps

Geobits

I think he knows that and doesn't like it ;)

Kritixi Lithos

15:58

Ships for Carribean, The Great Bombard for land maps

The strategy is nice in AoE3

Erik the Golfer

@NewSandboxedPosts Thanksgiving? Oh no, I can't. I advise you to use corn and turkey.

mbomb007

@KritixiLithos quora.com/…

Kritixi Lithos

The Great Bombard is the best artillery weapon in the game

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