The Nineteenth Byte

Jonathan Allan

09:10

@Downgoat Just wondering if my changes improved it, since you were so kind as to say why in the comments

ASCII-only

@JonathanAllan Changes?

Jonathan Allan

yeah I added a load of changes to it

It shows the first steps of how it is patterned

ASCII-only

Halp can anyone help me name multiple directions

Jonathan Allan

NSEW?

what sort of directions?

ASCII-only

I mean I have symbols that stand for multiple directions

Jonathan Allan

09:20

2d language?

ASCII-only

e.g. Right Down Left Top, I'm not going to add that literally in, it's way too verbose even for a verbose mode

ASCII-art, 1D

Jonathan Allan

1d??

ASCII-only

@JonathanAllan ?

Jonathan Allan

Not sure what you mean

ASCII-only

1D = normal non-fungeoid esolang

Jonathan Allan

09:23

oh so it is for a language :p

Are you already with a full code-page?

ASCII-only

Nope

Jonathan Allan

you have UDLR free - like Rubiks notation

or NSEW like compass

ASCII-only

No

This is verbose mode, meaning identifiers

e.g. :Left

The directions already use unicode arrows

Jonathan Allan

oh so for a log output or?

what's wrong with "left"?

ASCII-only

Verbose mode? Mostly to make it easier to program

Jonathan Allan

09:27

I see

ASCII-only

@JonathanAllan Nothing at all, just following that the multiple direction names will be so long

Jonathan Allan

< > ^ v

ASCII-only

So an example of multiple directions is Right Down Left Up (+)

Jonathan Allan

or 4682 - numpad

maybe d4d6d8d2

ASCII-only

???

Jonathan Allan

09:29

this is just to type in a verbose mode using a normal keyboard layout I thought

ASCII-only

Verbose meaning really easy understandable

Jonathan Allan

maybe I have no idea what you are trying to actually do :/

ASCII-only

I'm trying to decide on names for multiple directions e.g. * (all 8 compass directions) is :All

Jonathan Allan

and what is the set you need to describe?

you need N and W for example?

ASCII-only

The single directions are all done, the ones I haven't done are +X\/<>KLTVY (look at the directions the lines in the characters are pointing in)

Jonathan Allan

09:33

oh wow, do you need all combinations of all 8 compass directions?!

ASCII-only

No, just the ones that can be described with ASCII characters

Jonathan Allan

7

ASCII-only

Also forgot ^

Jonathan Allan

that is W and SW

¬

W&S

4 S&E

- E&W

r S&W

is > NW&SW?

| N&S

ASCII-only

Yeah

Jonathan Allan

09:38

ok

ASCII-only

Not entirely sure about 4 and r

Jonathan Allan

v (or V) NW&NE

^ SW&SE

ASCII-only

Already said I had those two (also I mostly need names for verbose mode, not sure if : + character is good enough for most of them)

Jonathan Allan

when you say verbose mode you mean as an alternative way to write the instructions out that is more human readable?

ASCII-only

Yeah

Jonathan Allan

09:46

how about a parenthesis notation like X = {NW,NE,SW,SE}?

or a capitalisation rather than csv like {NwNeSwSe}

ASCII-only

IDK, it's hard to translate to normal code

Jonathan Allan

yeah you'd need to parse it as a list, sort the list and look it up in a dictionary

Qwerp-Derp

Hello

Jonathan Allan

but it's not too messy

Hi :)

ASCII-only

^ Example for verbose vs normal for single directions

Jonathan Allan

09:55

Whatever you do you'll need to take order into consideration, so you can either limit it to, say, clockwise starting at up or allow any and parse then sort.

you are thinking of DownRight +DownLeft for ^?

Qwerp-Derp

Is there a way to make this access external files?

# Pytomas (an Atomas build for Python)
# Author: Qwerp-Derp

from random import randint

# Initial variables
element_table = []
atom_range = [1, 3]
specials_list = ["+"] * 48 + ["-"] * 12 + ["B"] * 4 + ["C"] * 3
carry_over = " "
moves = 0
score = 0

# Initialises starting list
for a in range(6):
    element_table.append(randint(atom_range[0], atom_range[1]))


# Processing for Plus atom
def plus_process():
    global element_table
    final_atom = 0

    def plus_code_block():
        # Main code block for plus

(It's my Atomas bot)

ASCII-only

Qwerp-Derp

@ASCII-only Oh jeez what is that

ASCII-only

@Qwerp-Derp a grammar

Qwerp-Derp

Ah

ASCII-only

10:01

@JonathanAllan ^^^^ I have some verbose forms, I'd prefer for the others to be similar

Jonathan Allan

I see

L and T are both shapes of set squares, like a carpenter might use, so TSquare and LSquare

but that reuses the symbol :/

Y is the shape of a diviners stick

ASCII-only

BTW it's probably better to choose obvious names

Qwerp-Derp

^*12 please check out my bot

Jonathan Allan

a "dowsing rod" or a "divining rod"

@Qwerp-Derp access? file.open?

ASCII-only

I'm fine with just adding a : before the symbol to indicate that it is a direction, IMO "divining rod" doesn't give the user any idea which directions it expands to

Jonathan Allan

10:10

Oh, if it's for output what's wrong with fully verbose (you have vertical where you could have Up & Down for example)

The very evil ROFLcopter

Heyyy

ASCII-only

It's for input

Qwerp-Derp

@JonathanAllan I'm thinking of using subprocess

But I have no idea how to use it for inputs and outputs and stuff

The very evil ROFLcopter

@Qwerp-Derp RTFM?

irb(main):006:0> 6751269**(1.0/3)
=> 188.99999999999994

IEEE 754 FTW

Qwerp-Derp

@TheveryevilROFLcopter :(

The very evil ROFLcopter

10:19

:(

        a←8^7
2097152.0
        7√a
7.999999999999999

Ruby floating point is borked

Qwerp-Derp

10:42

Is it possible in other languages to have an input be delivered in the command-line?

So something equivalent of python whatever.py "string"

where the string "string" can actually be accessed in some way

using something like argparse

The very evil ROFLcopter

Ruby: ARGV[0] C: argv[1] C++: argv[1] Java: args[1]

etc

Qwerp-Derp

Oh, kule

The very evil ROFLcopter

@Qwerp-Derp You don't need argparse to pass only 1 argument

It's overkill

Qwerp-Derp

True

I can probably do sys.argv or something

And that should be fine right?

The very evil ROFLcopter

Yep

Qwerp-Derp

10:46

Wait @TheveryevilROFLcopter how many langs do you know

The very evil ROFLcopter

A lot

Qwerp-Derp

I only bother to know Python and JS and that's it for me

The very evil ROFLcopter

Python, Ruby, C, C++, Java, C#, Visual basic, some Rust, JavaScript, HTML/CSS, some PHP, Mathematica, APL and some ActionScript

Qwerp-Derp

Whoa dang

So do they basically support command-line argument processing?

The very evil ROFLcopter

Obviously

For Mathematica I'm not sure, but for the other languages yes

Qwerp-Derp

10:49

Ah kule

The very evil ROFLcopter

11:00

Brb rebooting computer

Qwerp-Derp

Argh how does piping and Popen work

The very evil ROFLcopter

RTFM

docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html

Qwerp-Derp

I did

I'm still confused :(

The very evil ROFLcopter

Wat

The very evil ROFLcopter

11:33

Back

mınxomaτ

11:47

I see Mego is already preparing his Halloween costume: webm.land/media/mbP7.webm

3

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Lol

trichoplax

@TheveryevilROFLcopter A slightly less rude (and golfier) way of saying that is "RTM"

The very evil ROFLcopter

D:

Tk's canvas is worse than the HTML5 canvas

ASCII-only

HTML5 canvas is bad?

The very evil ROFLcopter

Yes

ASCII-only

11:54

How

The very evil ROFLcopter

\o/

Luis Mendo

12:29

@Lynn That's sad :-( I was told the same in my early Matlab days. I spent days finding a "bug"

@Lynn :-) I'm not sure if having such a long manual is a good or a bad thing. Anyway,it's easy once you know some basic Matlab

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:D:D::D:D::D:D:DD:D:D:D

PhiNotPi

10/10 squiggle

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github.com/tuxcrafting/y

ASCII-only

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Wow nice

The very evil ROFLcopter

12:46

Now I just have to write a doc for Y

Nathan Merrill

12:56

is there a data structure with O(1) insertion and O(1) random element removal?

udioica

challenge designers around here use way too big numbers/inputs

Fatalize

Question to native english speakers: is data set more correct than dataset or are both spelling perfectly acceptable?

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@udioica No

> A data set (or dataset, although this spelling is not present in many contemporary dictionaries) is a collection of data.

From Wikipedia

So visibly Data set is more correct

Fatalize

thanks

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And wiktionary says dataset is an alternative spelling of data set

Fatalize

13:00

I saw that yeah, but that doesn't say that it's not as accepted

Wikipedia does though so I'm gonna follow that

udioica

i just got done testing a vim macro to isolate all primes under 1,000,000. took 10-15 minutes. and this is the fast implementation. though the last digit did force an interesting trick i guess...

The very evil ROFLcopter

:/

Text editors are a rare case on this site, and since most languages can handle big numbers there are often big test cases

betseg

o/

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Hey

udioica

dropping a digit or 2 would make zero implementation change in almost every language

El'endia Starman

13:04

@udioica Y'know, it comes off as snobbish when you criticize challenges on this site because of how they are elsewhere, made worse by the fact that you're a new user and haven't acclimated to the community here.

Fatalize

Especially when you compare them to challenges made for one specific "language", whereas challenges here are for all languages. Obviously challenges will accomodate to specificities of Vim less than Vimgolf challenges.

The very evil ROFLcopter

^

ASCII-only

For more specific rules like the custom .vimrc, it's very hard to decide on what make the playing field level across languages.

udioica

yeah, vimrc rules would be hard to set and enforce on this site

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12

A: Bytes for changing a configuration file before running a program?

On PPCG, languages are defined by their implementation. This includes any configuration files. Therefore, if you edit your local configuration files, you are essentially creating a new unpublished implementation of an existing language. Now, if you were to significantly edit your configuration fi...

Sherlock9

13:08

When you have procedural languages like C++ mixing with tacit/functional programming languages like J/APL/Jelly, it can be hard to define common concepts like "What is a loop?"

El'endia Starman

Please note that we're not trying to drive you away because really, it's awesome to have a top Vim golfer join us. Not so awesome is friction within the community (or between the community and new people), which we want to minimize.

8

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^^^ If you change a configuration file, you change the implementation

Sherlock9

Quick topic change: how does Vim work with other keyboards like Dvorak or Colemak?

Fatalize

Lynn changed her avatar yet again… stop changing avatars I don't know who is who ;_;

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@Sherlock9 Badly, I changed from AZERTY to QWERTY partially because Vim

udioica

13:13

@Sherlock9 some people do musical chairs remapping, but just using the original bindings really isn't a big problem

Fatalize

And partially because AZERTY is a piece of garbage

The very evil ROFLcopter

Also that

udioica

many years ago i typed dvorak, never remapped anything. now i qwerty again though

El'endia Starman

@Fatalize At least she's not changing her name too, eh? :P

Fatalize

looks at @TheveryevilROFLcopter

The very evil ROFLcopter

13:16

?

Sherlock9

@Fatalize That's just your AZERTYon :P

Multiple name changes are not particularly nice, either :)

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Fatalize

@Sherlock9 Didn't even use the full AZERTY for you pun, 2/10

The very evil ROFLcopter

^^ This thing is a nightmare to work with

Sherlock9

@Fatalize Done

udioica

13:17

and the spirit of my "criticism" is more like "lol, that was something". it actually turned out interesting, because the large number forced me to invent a new tactic to avoid typing all the digits

and i could easily have just proof-of-concepted on 10,000 and called it good, though i wanted to check if it could run in human-reasonable time

but editing million-line files can be an issue...

El'endia Starman

Yeah, we frequently have challenges where some number of languages simply can't do them. I.e., BF can't be used for graphical challenges.

Jonathan Allan

@Dennis - missed a comma, fixed and tested:

C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu 30ÆṖ
[1, 0, 0, 0]
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu 210ÆṖ
[1, 0, 0, 0, 0]
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu 270ÆṖ
[1, 2, 0, 0, 0]
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu [1,0,0,0]Æṗ
30
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu [1,0,0,0,0]Æṗ
210
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu [1,2,0,0,0]Æṗ
270
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu [[1,0,0,0],[1,0,0,0,0],[1,2,0,0,0]]Æṗ
[30, 210, 270]
C:\Jelly\jelly-master>python jelly -eu 719ÆḞ
[5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]

El'endia Starman

Unless someone really wanted to create a PPM generator. That'd be quite a feat. Maybe BF and keyboard interaction is a better example.

udioica

yeah, conversely, i design a lot of vimgolf challenges, and they're tuned just for vim. few of them would work here

ASCII-only

:32893781 Pass the inner stuff through this

Press escape, copy the stuff in "Escaped HTML", put it in the <pre></pre>

mbomb007

13:26

@ASCII-only <pre><span class="emoji-inner" style="background: url(chrome-extension://negakbijaemdgbhklopmghphgaeadmpo/data/images/emoji/emoji-‌data/sheet_emojione_64.png);background-position:2.5% 100%;background-size:4100%" onclick="alert('D:')">♦</span></pre>

The very evil ROFLcopter

github.com/tuxcrafting/y

Added a documentation :D

udioica

probably been discussed here before, but i actually have a solution on this that's 2 strokes shorter, but the memory/cpu involved make it impossible to run, though there's no reason the result would be wrong if you could. i can mention it in the write-up, but what would my "listed" byte count be?

The very evil ROFLcopter

@udioica If the challenge don't say 'The program have to run in a reasonable time', I think it's ok

ASCII-only

@udioica The shorter one is fine if there's no time limit, but provide an explanation so that people will understand why it takes a long time

betseg

Y u du dis ;_;

udioica

13:27

makes sense

El'endia Starman

In fact, it's expected and normal that a byte is saved in exchange for untold eons of time (in some cases).

Rod

2

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Help with my Halloween decoration The Halloween is upon us, and I haven't decorated my house yet, so I gonna need your help to do this task Input The input will be a list of 4 digits numbers, where each digit represent a portion of decoration: EMBU < 4 digit number | | | |-upper decoration | ...

Going to post this, any last-minute tip?

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Draw the arc of a ball code-golf Draw the parabolic trajectory of a ball. The initial upward velocity is a positive integer v given as input. The output should have no leading newlines and at most one trailing newline, but any trailing spaces are OK. v=1 OO O O v=2 OO O O O O ...

Yodle

Might as well throw up a Christmas themed one too, since everyone's gotta get ready for it 2 months in advance.

The very evil ROFLcopter

@Yodle dafuq your profile pic

Yodle

13:34

@TheveryevilROFLcopter It's a pic I've used since I was a kid. I use it for all my profiles :p

udioica

there's only 1 vimgolf.com challenge where hardware limitations become a problem, and i made it (my mistake). fastest way to sort by the sum of a list of numbers was to indent the line sum times. millions and millions of tabs

Poke

@TheveryevilROFLcopter You're not the first to ask

mbomb007

@ASCII-only I can't get it to work: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1/sandbox

El'endia Starman

@Rod "Winning criterial" shouldn't have that ending 'l'. "Lower decorations starts" - that "starts" should be "start". Don't include the house. Otherwise, I think it's good.

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qrng.anu.edu.au/index.php

Cool

El'endia Starman

13:38

@Rod I like the mirrorable eyes thing, but ultimately, I think that adds an unnecessary (though minor) complication to the challenge. If you keep it, I think you should move the explanation of mirroring to the space between the eyes and mouth/nose sections so people don't have to scroll all the way to the bottom to see what the footnote is about.

Dennis

@JonathanAllan I'll take a look as soon as the electricity comes back. Stupid thunderstorm.

Jonathan Allan

@Dennis, cool.

Hmm, reason for lack of test cases was to lessen the likelihood of something like this search: oeis.org/…

maybe that's not important?

El'endia Starman

If it's a sequence challenge and the sequence is on OEIS, people will find it.

Geobits

Yeah, it's usually one of the first things I do if the sequence isn't obvious.

Jonathan Allan

once they know the numbers

TimmyD

13:42

If it's not a sequence challenge, and the sequence is on OEIS, people will find it.

Jonathan Allan

my tests are 1:1, 2:2, 17:.... and 17 is not there

so if someone codes it and then searches...

well then they've already coded

Geobits

What challenge is this again?

Jonathan Allan

3

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Digital Diversity A positive integer may be represented in an integer base 1 <= b < inf. When converted to that base it has some number of distinct digits. Any positive integer in base 1 has 1 distinct digit. Most positive integers in base 2 have 2 distinct digits, the exceptions being those ...

Geobits

@JonathanAllan That only really applies to the first person to do it, though.

Jonathan Allan

it's real easy once you work it out

The first person to do it in the easy way, yes

*until someone does.

maybe I should just link to oeis then !

El'endia Starman

13:45

@JonathanAllan That's pretty common in sequence challenges.

Jonathan Allan

Peter Taylor and Dennis noticed how easy it would be, but not everyone would I think

Emigna

@JonathanAllan That was easy to find after just a few numbers tested though

Jonathan Allan

So people here think I should just give the info and say "yeah it's realllllly easy"

Geobits

Even when I know how the sequence is generated, I often look at OEIS to see if there's a shorter way to do it, or something that sparks another approach.

xnor

I don't like when a code golf challenge is really a puzzle

Jonathan Allan

13:47

hmm, why PPCG then :/

xnor

i'm all for deleting the PP

Geobits

Code Sport for life :P

Fatalize

Isn't using that OEIS formula the easy way?

Jonathan Allan

yes

xnor

in any case, i'd at least like it to be a programming puzzle, not one about finding a mathematical formula that makes the coding clear

Fatalize

13:48

Well then everyone will find that anyway

because someone will explain that formula in their answer or find it from OEIS

xnor

i do like when some mathematical insight allows for a better algorithm, but just finding the formula strikes me as boring

Fatalize

I like puzzles when the best solution is not known, e.g. this one

10

ASCII-only

OEIS link

Jonathan Allan

@ASCII-only yeah I posted a search that had it as only result ^

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Code Sports, you mean.

ASCII-only

13:51

@JonathanAllan Oh, didn't see it, but this algorithm is easy to do by hand, it took me less than a minute, so the search wouldn't have been much of a challenge

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman That's an acceptable alternative, but I prefer the singular.

Jonathan Allan

@ASCII-only yeas it is easy to work out.

ASCII-only

@JonathanAllan Also look at what I found using the testcases alone

Jonathan Allan

oh 17 is in there

Geobits

For sequences with big, probably not common, numbers, it's easier to just search like this: oeis.org/…

You don't need all the positioning ?s or commas

Jonathan Allan

13:54

yep Geo, I thought I'd done that :/

Fatalize

oeis.org/…

you don't even need the other numbers

El'endia Starman

I like the challenge though. It's one I can reasonably do in Minkolang! :P

Geobits

So using the oddball 17 test case actually made it easier to find on oeis. Ah, life...

Jonathan Allan

right so - I'm just gonna put the first bunch into the challenge text :)

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CMC: Primality checker in Copy

Jonathan Allan

13:58

done, [1,7],{17,20,35,63,257}

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Q: Help me with my Halloween decoration

The Halloween is upon us, and I haven't decorated my house yet, so I gonna need your help to do this task Input The input will be a list of 4 digits numbers, where each digit represent a portion of decoration: EMBU |||| |||+-upper decoration ||+-bottom decoration |+-mouth/nose +-eyes Eyes: 0 ...

Shebang

RIP

The very evil ROFLcopter

lol

The very evil ROFLcopter

14:16

codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/95852/53745 The comment section...

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/6309/… WTF THIS BOUTY

Fatalize

Not sure the description was really needed

Well actually the description is not the same on github, so maybe

Nathan Merrill

@TheveryevilROFLcopter obviously, if you can't get your answer to the top of the page, you can simply pay some rep to do it

and they'll even put your answer in a special tab!

The very evil ROFLcopter

What is this wiki seriously

Nathan Merrill

a community

El'endia Starman

14:33

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Yeah, he already got some flak for that in chat.

It's such a bummer that the sequence of uninteresting numbers wasn't accepted as a sequence in OEIS, but then again, it would be constantly changing, which number sequences normally don't do.

TimmyD

@Dennis Yeah, the bounty bot is apparently working, suddenly. There have been a couple this week that have been posted by it.

Sherlock9

@Fatalize Ooh, now you've got me hooked. BRB, going to try Monte Carlo

El'endia Starman

@TimmyD I think SE fixed a bug a few weeks ago since that's when the bot started posting.

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Q: A Triangular Slice of Squared Pi

Inspired by Bake a slice of Pi Challenge Given input 3 <= n <= 100 and 3 <= y <= n, construct an n x n matrix of the decimal portion of pi (14159...), starting in the top left. Then, take the upper-right triangle of size y x y and concatenate it together. Output the resulting number. For examp...

code-golf pi

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman I think I'm gonna try a more AST-based approach for Cogol 2.

DJMcMayhem

14:46

I just got two bflack answers within 10 seconds. 0_0

The very evil ROFLcopter

@DJMcMayhem What challenge?

DJMcMayhem

Even strings

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Oooh, interesting.

Sherlock9

Dang. Monte Carlo only got me 110, when the current best score is 137

Welp, time to try a more structured approach

TimmyD

@DJMcMayhem That's neat to see that language taking off.

Nathan Merrill

14:54

hey, I've got a data structure with two operations: "add" and "popRandom". Both occur in O(1). What would you call it?

PhiNotPi

I'm probably going to allow some kind of nested subroutines. Also... adding support for "normally" scoped variables.

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RandomlyLinkedList

TimmyD

@NathanMerrill A sack?

Nathan Merrill

Sack isn't a bad idea

I like it :)

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CMC: Design an esolang using a sack as it data structure

PhiNotPi

14:56

Also, regarding the problem of stack and heap (which is an issue because I want both of them to grow from the same end of memory), one other option is to interlace them.

DJMcMayhem

@TimmyD I know! I'm super happy about it. Expecially when high-rep users like Dennis and Martin use it.

The very evil ROFLcopter

@PhiNotPi Heap is after the code, stack is at the end of the memory?

Why do you want the heap at the end?

PhiNotPi

As in, every-other RAM address is stack, and the others are heap. Array indexes would be multiplied by two.

This is for Quest-for-Tetris. The further in memory that data is stored, the longer it takes to access.

ASCII-only

IDK, it's a bit weird, plus won't having separate heap and stack sections of RAM be faster, also are you sure close to 50% of the RAM will be heap/stack

Nathan Merrill

hey, how do "resizing" operations work in to big-O notation? Like, if you needed to perform an O(n) operation if the data structure grows to the size 2^x?

DJMcMayhem

15:00

I guess that would be O(2^n)

Nathan Merrill

I don't think that was clear

PhiNotPi

are you talking about amortization?

Amortized analysis

In computer science, amortized analysis is a method for analyzing a given algorithm's time complexity, or how much of a resource, especially time or memory in the context of computer programs, it takes to execute. The motivation for amortized analysis is that looking at the worst-case run time per operation can be too pessimistic. While certain operations for a given algorithm may have a significant cost in resources, other operations may not be as costly. Amortized analysis considers both the costly and less costly operations together over the whole series of operations of the algorithm. This...

Nathan Merrill

if the array grows to size 2, 4, 8,..., I need to perform a O(n) operation

PhiNotPi

there's an example in the wiki article about that

Nathan Merrill

@PhiNotPi yes

ah interesting, you simply average it

El'endia Starman

15:19

This was actually significantly more interesting than I expected:

How Does Recoil Affect Gun Performance?

►

Yodle

15:33

Well it's been about 10 days, anyone have any other ideas before I post this? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

Geobits

A definitive list of country -> timezone is almost a requirement in this challenge. — TimmyD Sep 30 at 20:56

TimmyD

Whoa, I've been quoted.

Geobits

~~almost~~

TimmyD

I've been almost quoted?

:p

Geobits

I mean, you could have every answerer using their own list (probably found with a lazy googling), but it'd be better to have a definitive list in the post. There are a lot of countries...

TimmyD

15:38

Heck, we can't even agree on the number of countries.

Geobits

Plus, putting the list in code is going to wreck byte counts. Make it an input.

@TimmyD Or their names, for that matter

confusedandamused

Can someone reccomend me a 27in 4k top of the line monitor ideally with no bezels

no price limit

Geobits

Amazon, Google, or Newegg could I'm sure :P

I've never shopped for a monitor with "no price limit", so I wouldn't be any help.

confusedandamused

Neither have I until now :)

Nathan Merrill

just order a flatscreen tv

confusedandamused

15:44

Hmm I suppose but it needs to sit on a dsek

Geobits

27in is quite big for a desk imo.

I like my dual 23s, but anything bigger probably wouldn't fit.

Nathan Merrill

yeah, if you have no budget, I'd go for multiple screens, not a single big one

TimmyD

No bezels? Or small bezels?

Nathan Merrill

I know a lot of people that like tall, narrow screen as well

confusedandamused

Small ro non @TimmyD

Boss asked me to find one for someone

With those specs

No limit lol

Geobits

15:48

Acer's got a pretty nice looking 32", the BM320. Maybe they have a scaled down version?

TimmyD

ASUS ROG SWIFT PG27AQ

Geobits

newegg.com/Product/…

That's beautiful :)

confusedandamused

That's the one I was looking at

Geobits

Stop looking at it and buy it then. LG's a good brand for that.

Poke

That looks like my monitor

Geobits

15:53

@Poke I know. That's how I got the picture.

Poke

O.O

Geobits

I mean, err... What a coincidence!

Poke

haha

It's pretty nice but it shakes easily because the stand is small

can't complain with 1440p though

TimmyD

Yeah, I'd be concerned about desk movement with that guy.

Geobits

Depends on the desk I guess. I have a pretty sturdy one that doesn't really move unless I try.

Poke

15:55

pcpartpicker.com/user/pokej6/saved/#view=JyqMnQ

i think that's mostly up to date

Geobits

Ouch. Those peripherals are really bumping the price up.

Poke

yeah >.<

TimmyD

I've got a 30" Dell U3011 on my desk at home. Bought it new right when it came out. Still love it.

Geobits

I don't think I've ever spent half that for a PC build >_>

Poke

I didn't pay all of it at once. I had the monitors from my last computer

at least 2 of them, anyway

also had the speakers already

Also got windows for free in the upgrade

Geobits

15:58

Oh, right. Well that makes a big difference.

Poke

I think I really ended up paying closer to 1.8-2k

TimmyD

Tack on another grand, and you've reached the price of the new laptop I just purchased.

Poke

had some good deals/rebates

Geobits

Also, 2x23" + 1x25"? That would drive me insane :P

Poke

it is a little annoying if i'm being honest...

the smaller ones sit on either side of the big one

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