The Nineteenth Byte

Just spoof it. How does the modem know that you're using Windows anywayz?

I think he means that there aren't drivers

^

Also because I can't run Unix, and because my native OS in Windows.

which my brain can't even comprehend since PPP is universal

5:02 PM

> Also because I can't run Unix

y?

@zyabin101 You haven't got that stupid "Secure Boot" "feature" on your UEFI, have you?

Nope.

@wizzwizz4 but me yes ;________________________________;

@TùxCräftîñg Disableable?

if i disable it, my computer refuse to boot

5:04 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Ouch.

I got PureIRCd running! Ahahaha!

That... IRCs.... me >_>

Gonna go ahead and show myself out now.

Odd that Google Dev supports not a single RTL language.

22

A: "Hello, World!"

Homespring, 58 bytes Universe net hatchery Hello,. World! powers a b snowmelt The trailing space is significant. Let me tell you a story. There was once a power plant which powered a nearby salmon hatchery. The salmon hatchery hatched a young homeless salmon which embarked on a journey upri...

@TùxCräftîñg +1, advertising somebody else's answer.

5:09 PM

it's a fun lang

When connecting to my new server via KVIrc (the one that has an annoying feature of advertising itself in my real name and part/quit messages) it dumbily wanted to not connect 15 times.

Thanks.

use hexchat

IRC con: IRC servers only work with Unix. Not on Unix, with Unix.

not really a con

That clearly makes Slack the winner.

s/not//

5:17 PM

i will try to create an IRC server

Good, and make it work with Windows XP :D

i will code it in ruby

Okay, I'll install Ruby.

And make it work with DNS, unencumbered.

tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2813

^ IRC spec

@zyabin101 Why? You don't need to run a server to chat on IRC

confusedandamused

5:21 PM

Is mostly everyone here a programmer I would assume?

I want to run the server.

@confusedandamused Uh, yeah.

@confusedandamused if not everyone

@confusedandamused My HID is not a programmer, and technically that's the software that's "here" (i.e. connecting to the chat website).

But yes.

@orlp not a winner but you gave me the idea so I ran with it... (68059344>>x*2+y*8&3)*4

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Q: Mutilating the Query

I know you've always thought about the trials and tribulations of experiencing the joys of life as a web proxy. Honestly, who hasn't? Today you're tasked with realizing this goal (at least a part of it). Website X gets gets a lot of traffic on the daily and is looking for a PaaS (clearly this ref...

code-golf

5:27 PM

Hai

hi

@betseg Hiaheyhaiehhaheiiaehaiehahaiehaieeiehahieheiahaiehahai.

Gonna view the exposed ftp server list. :3

@wizzwizz4 wat

@betseg I was saying hello.

5:29 PM

kk

Ruby does not work on my machine.

@zyabin101 Have you tried putting it in a Minecart?

It's complaining about _gmtime64_s, a function that exists in msvcrt.dll where Ruby thinks it's not.

I don't want to replace my OS to Vista again.

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Print the Sets code-golf math Challenge Given the symbol for a special set, output every number contained within that set. Input The input will be a single ASCII character: either P, N, Z, Q or R. Output Your output must be an infinitely increasing list of numbers separated by newlines. De...

^ Any thoughts maths/non-maths people?

seems like there won't be much code reuse in many (maybe any) languages, because the individual problems are so simple

Lynn

5:39 PM

@MartinEnder I listened to Homes - ...Samara to Belfast. Wowwwww is all I can say ♥

:)

@zyabin101 use a 32bit one

@BetaDecay there is no way to enumerate the real numbers

the ending is so epic

Just out of curiosity, can mods see the edit history on comments?

5:40 PM

yes

[citation-needed]

Wait, really?

I'm like 99% positive they can

Lemme check meta

@quartata I installed the unmarked RubyInstaller, which I assumed is the 32 bit one.

Or you could just ask Martin

Ah, right

5:41 PM

I think he would know, being a mod and all

@Sparr How about if I were to remove the real number set?

A: Do moderators see the previous versions of edited comments?

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No, moderators can't see the version history of comments, though the revision history is kept in the database. All we can see is an indicator that the comment has been edited.

Huh.

You learn something new every day.

@BetaDecay my previous response holds. the problems are too simple; solutions will probably all just solve them separately with no code reuse

I'm a fan of multi-challenges where code reuse is an integral factor

pun intended

@quartata Interesting. I thought they would be able to, but apparently not.

Thanks!

@Sparr What do you mean by code reuse?

orlp

5:47 PM

@Sparr for which mini challenge was this one again?

@quartata If you ever want to quiz me about that sort of thing, I can always answer / find out first-hand for you...

the chat service wars have ended

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Bookmarked 10 secs ago by quartata

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Marky has spoken

Nooooooooo!

Wait, that's the wars.

I thought that meant the chat service had ended.

Yeeeeeeeees!

in The Block, 52 secs ago, by TùxCräftîñg

Do you like SE chat?

5:53 PM

IRC lost!

in The Block, 1 min ago, by Marky Markov

@TùxCräftîñg i'm sure.

@orlp the x/y 0/4/8/12 lookup table

@zyabin101 All three lost...

and marky want to stay on SE

@BetaDecay when I see a challenge that says "solve these 5 problems with one program", what I want to see is that some of the problems have something in common, so they might share a function or a loop or some code otherwise.

@quartata I've never even heard of Glitter before

5:58 PM

@RenderSettings waaaaaves :D

(sorry for the double ping)

@Sparr It's Gitter

Not Glitter

Haha

never heard of that, either

Gitter is a bot-friendly chat service for developers, by developers.

gitter.im

theorically, everything is by devs :P

RenderSettings

6:01 PM

I kinda don't get the point of gitter, tbh

@zyabin101 so, it's Slack?

I think the point is to gitter done.

Slack is for teams. Gitter is for devs specifically.

my team is all devs...

@Geobits 2/10

6:03 PM

haha

Yep. God forbid the devs be seen as part of the team.

And teams could be any teams, like devs, pong players, NASA ppl, ohh, and some Reddit communities.

Just read "NSA ppl" first.

reddit.com/r/counting

i dont see y gitter would be specifically for devs

6:04 PM

They are always a team member.

@Geobits hey all it's me larry da cable guy hurr hurr

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Connect the pixels code-golf ascii-art Given a text like this: # #### ## # ## # ## # #### ## Output the same text but by connecting the pixels with the characters ─│┌┐└┘├┤┬┴┼. If a pixel don't have any neighbours, dont change it. So the output of the last text is: │ ─┬── ┌─ │ └─ │ ┌┘...

any feedback?

Hmm, should try a counting chat on Stack Exchange. :3

@TùxCräftîñg I'm bad at non-ascii stuff... make very sure that the characters that show up in your post are actually the exact characters you expect out of solutions

@mınxomaτ I must try harder in the future to gain your approval. Thank you for commenting. It has been an eye-opening experience.

RenderSettings

6:08 PM

damn, i checked the date i first got my urbit planet and it's nearly been two years

@zyabin101 This is idiotic. Thanks for making me sad

4

I like the part where they ban people for using a script even though it makes no difference

RenderSettings

no no no, that makes them not authentic, free range numbers

quartata, wat? wai?

PhiNotPi

I'm gonna try to post a challenge today.... it'll be my first challenge in over 2 months. :/

That's a joke right? It's almost as pointless as Cookie Clicker and yet they're taking it seriously

Like, if they had a sense of humor about it I'd be fine with it

6:11 PM

That's not!

@quartata You don't go to reddit for the humor. You go for the crushed feeling your soul gets.

We should have a counting room for those who want one.

I do.

Please no.

The pinnacle of pointlessness

If you don't, you don't. Others do.

Well, at least, some others.

Sorry, I meant that more in reply to the counting farther up. If you do it in another room it doesn't matter really

6:20 PM

I don't see why not. It would be a dumb room that I would not participate in, but if they want a dumb room why stop em?

Okay! :3

@DJMcMayhem My shitty Internet made me post that about a minute after. I was actually trying to say that after "Tux wins" and "Beta decay wins"

I've missed the CMC

You didn't miss much.

1

6:22 PM

2

;)

I won

Beta Decay lost. betseg wins!

The latter part I ninja'd.

@quartata oil

I am currently hating my inability to move messages to trash from mobile. I'll do it when I get home.

6:27 PM

Nice, so our counting and us will never be accepted on SE chat.

Thanks.

Some mods just wanna see the world burn.

@zyabin101 Some don't.

Cmon lets go to sandbox and count at there

@zyabin101 I and others don't want to see pointless noise.

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

5

@betseg Is that really the right place for it?

6:31 PM

then open a new room?

We have more than 20k anyway

@Geobits I once had a long debate over whether the semantic versioning standard requires decimal numbers

e[x_[y_]]=x[y][y];
e[e[e]]

i get an iterationlimit???

Poke

someone have a quick link to the input format meta post?

is there a meta post on what an accepted answer means?

lacking a specification in the question, what is the default assumption to be about which answer should become accepted, or what it means for an answer to have been accepted?

6:56 PM

^ very useful builtin

Lynn

Does codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/93739/… really belong in primes?

It deals with coprimality, but not reaaally with primality. Although some of the methods of computation deal with prime factorization.

> This tag should be used for challenges about finding, testing for, or in any way related to prime numbers.

Coprime != prime

I would think it's worthy of having number-theory but not primes

Although Martin edited it in and I trust him so eh

A: Compute the Carmichael function

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Mathematica, 16 bytes CarmichaelLambda Well...

._.

@Lynn you got a two-byte builtin answer in Jelly, that was made with your own hands.

._.

7:20 PM

@quartata my train of thought was coprime -> prime factorisation -> primes

the primes tag wiki could use some work though

cc @Lynn

@MartinEnder I guess that makes sense

@betseg sadly relevant

Poke

I forget the rules about answering your own challenge

Anyone have a meta post/ruling?

A: Compute the Carmichael function

4

Jelly, 2 bytes Æc Thank you for the builtin, @Lynn

@Poke just do it. although if it would currently be winning you might want to wait a bit.

7:28 PM

,___,

Poke

ok cool

i've just noticed that my cup is a heptagon

And my thumb looks broken

|_|

so is the standard IKEA cup

you should definitely see a doctor about your thumb though

@MartinEnder is it? Wasnt from ikea

7:35 PM

this one: ikea.com/us/en/images/products/…

wait that one looks more like a nonagon

let me go check

yeah, they're nonagons

and all those years I thought... ;_;

Lol

in The Block, 1 min ago, by Zalgo

@MarkyMarkov I am wizzwizz4's bot now.

wizzwizz4 is evil

he spammed the chat with this so zalgo registered it ;_;

I didn't spam...

Only 3 messages :p

Zåłğõ

Just a question, does anyone else think that the background color of formatted code was changed?

It looks far lighter to me.

7:50 PM

no

ni

I think something's wrong with my 2nd monitor...

9 (hint: German)

translate: ot nein

New Sandboxed Posts

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Telegraphy Golf: Decode Baudot Code Background In 1870 Émile Baudot invented Baudot Code, a fixed-length character encoding for telegraphy. He designed the code to be entered from a manual keyboard with just five keys; two operated with the left hand and three with the right: The right ind...

8:04 PM

@mınxomaτ Is there a way to make that a screensaver? That's awesome.

;_;

confusedandamused

8:17 PM

@mbomb007 I thought that awhile ago...then both monitors bit the dust within two weeks of one another :(

This site requires Sun Java 6.0.0.1 (32-bit) or higher. You have Macromedia Java 7.3.8.1Â¾ (48-bit). Click here [link to java.com main page] to download an installer which will run fine but not really change anything.

Does Ruby have a built-in priority queue?

Doesn't look like it. Oh well

priority queue?

I think this would be better with a hash anyways

Priority queue

In computer science, a priority queue is an abstract data type which is like a regular queue or stack data structure, but where additionally each element has a "priority" associated with it. In a priority queue, an element with high priority is served before an element with low priority. If two elements have the same priority, they are served according to their order in the queue. While priority queues are often implemented with heaps, they are conceptually distinct from heaps. A priority queue is an abstract concept like "a list" or "a map"; just as a list can be implemented with a linked list...

kk

seem easy to implement

8:21 PM

Usually done with a heap

I mean, I could implement myself sure. But I'm lazy :P

haha

I thought of a better way anyways

yay the starboard of the block is full of zalgo messages

@TùxCräftîñg Most of them are from me.

You'd like to help me teach Zalgo some real Zalgo? is 3 times in the starboard o.o

New Sandboxed Posts

8:25 PM

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Is it an Odd Word? code-golf alphabet Challenge Given a single word as input, determine if the word is odd or even. Odd and Even words Assume the general rules: odd + odd = even even + odd = odd odd + even = odd even + even = even In the alphabet, the odd letters are: acegikmoqsuwy And...

@TùxCräftîñg And yet the

Ź͇̬̱̰͕̝͌͠͡ͅA͕̖̻̜͈͕͓ͩͣL͂̌̇͏̧͇̘̘̩̩ͅG̡͎͍̱ͫ̃̋̾̏́O̠̠̪̪̗̠̳̯̎̄͂̾ͥ́͞ ͬ͋

I've been posting for much longer isn't.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

flawr

@quartata I like priority stacks better.

@confusedandamused My 2nd monitor is displaying really light grays (such as background of formatted code on this site) as white.

ETHproductions

@quartata I don't care too much which service you choose. I don't know any of them and they all require porting :P

8:38 PM

i prefer IRC

becuz irc is simple

and I think it has a builtin programming language

@TùxCräftîñg I find it ircsome. :P

TimmyD

@mbomb007 Ninja'd

hey @ETHproductions quick question. When defining functions, should I use const, let, or function?

ETHproductions

@ConorO'Brien I use function. Mainly because I only code in ES5 when I'm not golfing

const may be a good option though.

8:43 PM

okay, cool. I usually use const, but sometimes use let. thanks!

shit i stuck an ant in an infinite loop

poor ant :(

i tought the pattern i found was interesting ;_;

but still RUL is class 4 i think

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@betseg just realized that the image 404 was deliberate

i found a way to create 2 2-bit counters, now just to find a way to observe the counters

8:56 PM

CMC: Roll the Dice: Coding challenge, roll 1d(number of program run, start at 1) and return a program that increments the number of sides.

but the counters increment an other counter every 8 increments

do we have to show the result of the dice?

Like, the program returns 1 and a program that returns 1d2 and a program that returns 1d3 and a program that...

@ConorO'Brien Yes.

Scars To Your Beautiful - Vintage Soul Alessia Cara Cover ft. Sara Niemietz

but sadly the state counter is in the 'ant microprogram'

i found a more stable (but more long to initialize) 2-bit counter

flawr

►

Adnan

9:07 PM

@Dennis Could you please pull 05AB1E?

Too bad this question is closed now. I found a way to do BSOD in 3 key presses on Windows.

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Q: Code Golf of Death

Write some code that causes a BSOD or kernel panic! Rules: On Windows, you must cause a BugCheck (Blue Screen of Death), on Linux (or other *nix systems) you must cause a kernel panic. Must not damage the system (i.e. it should work on reboot) Kernel-mode drivers are allowed. State your OS and...

popularity-contest

howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/…

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@zyabin101 Mathematica, 54 bytes: MapAt[Print[RandomInteger@0+1];#+1&,#0,{1,1,1,1,1,1}]&

And I'm even the one who initiated the close vote.

Oh well.

wat are the three keystrokes?

my connection is too slow to load the page...

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Testing:

Mathematica 10.1.0 for Linux x86 (64-bit)
Copyright 1988-2015 Wolfram Research, Inc.

In[1]:= MapAt[Print[RandomInteger@0+1];#+1&,#0,{1,1,1,1,1,1}]&[]
1

Out[1]= MapAt[Print[RandomInteger[(#1 + 1 & )[0]] + 1]; #1 + 1 & , #0,

>     {1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1}] &

In[2]:= %[]
2

Out[2]= MapAt[Print[RandomInteger[(#1 + 1 & )[(#1 + 1 & )[0]]] + 1]; #1 + 1 & ,

>     #0, {1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1}] &

In[3]:= %[]
3

Out[3]= MapAt[Print[RandomInteger[(#1 + 1 & )[(#1 + 1 & )[(#1 + 1 & )[0]]]] +

>        1]; #1 + 1 & , #0, {1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1}] &

Anonymous

9:13 PM

@mbomb007 That requires a non-standard registry key setup, which falls under meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/10037/45941

Anonymous

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ One onebox to rule them all...

0

Q: Connect the pixels

Given a text like this: # #### ## # ## # ## # #### ## Output the same text but by connecting the pixels with the characters ─│┌┐└┘├┤┬┴┼. If a pixel don't have any neighbours, dont change it. So the output of the last text is: │ ─┬── ┌─ │ └─ │ ┌┘ │ └──┘ ─┘ Test cases ## # => ──...

code-golf ascii-art

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Q: Connect the pixels

Given a text like this: # #### ## # ## # ## # #### ## Output the same text but by connecting the pixels with the characters ─│┌┐└┘├┤┬┴┼. If a pixel don't have any neighbours, dont change it. So the output of the last text is: │ ─┬── ┌─ │ └─ │ ┌┘ │ └──┘ ─┘ Test cases ## # => ──...

code-golf ascii-art

:D

Oh :-( That's not ASCII

9:22 PM

i have to wake up six and a half hours later but i can't sleep halp

Yeah these challenges with the box drawing characters are really annoying because they mean that any language with CP437 is guaranteed to win

my connection will be back in 30mn \o/

@Adnan Done.

I hate when I have to read my own docs to learn how to use my own old code again >.>

@mınxomaτ its worse when you haven't written docs :P

9:33 PM

By docs I mean half-assed comments of course.

@Dennis Funny that in one computer I see TIO's "Save" and "Donate" buttons coloured yellow, and in other they are white like the others :-)

Oh, and "Copy snippet" was a very nice addition!

seshoumara

If I suggest an edit and it is accepted, I guess I will be shown as the editor of that answer and not the reviewer. Right?

@seshoumara I think that's the case if the editor "accepts" it, but not if they "improve" it

seshoumara

ok

removed, Brasil

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code-golf string array-manipulation number ascii-art counting grid

wat

9:53 PM

@TùxCräftîñg haha the tittle of that tap, "User removed"

Anyone know what user that was?

Why do Java programmers need glasses?

Because they can't C#.

That was Washington Guedes

confusedandamused

heh

Random infographic: Cemetery symbols imgur.com/gallery/WrGFR

10:05 PM

yay internet is back \o/

Adnan

10:22 PM

@Dennis Thanks :)

@LuisMendo Yeah, it depends on what kind of Symbola font you have installed. TIO v2 will use only embedded fonts, so that won't be an issue.

is TIOv2 out, or is this just plans?

I have a server and I've already implemented a bunch of stuff, but it's not finished and I haven't made the URL public.

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A: Connect the pixels

Javascript (ES6), 155 characters let f = s=>s.map((r,y)=>[...r].map((c,x)=>(X=x,Y=y,c>' '?'#│─┘─└─┴││┐┤┌├┬┼'[t(0,-1)+2*t(-1,0)+4*t(1,0)+8*t(0,1)]:c)).join``,t=(a,b)=>(s[Y+b]||[])[X+a]>' ').join` ` console.log(f([ '# #### ## #', '## # ## #', ' #### ##' ]));

@Dennis cool! screenshot? :3

10:27 PM

I recently made a change in the HTML and the CSS hasn't caught up yet, so it would look pretty awful if I took it right now.

oh, okay

dons reporter outfit, holds up microphone Ahem--what changes can we expect in the second incarnation of TIO?

Proper sandboxing, the ability to run the same codes with different inputs (test suites) and/or different languages (polyglots), better handling of STDERR, and server-side permalinks.

I wonder if anyone has ever beaten Vlad with an uncursed greased thoroughly corroded thoroughly rusty rustproof ring of protection from shapechangers

wat

@quartata what weapon?

10:31 PM

The sandboxing is what I'm most excited about, since it means I will be able to add Python, Ruby, C, etc.

a bunch of pies?

Anyone here know what a compact 2-manifold is? (@flawr)

No with that as the weapon I mean.

@TùxCräftîñg a ring that does pretty much nothing, but is pretty much undestructible

@quartata 10/10 i need to try that

Oh, and it will be a lot more usable from mobile. I have yet to find another online interpreter that works as intended on my phone.

10:32 PM

It woud be the longest Vladbane name possible

lol

@Dennis I'd be happy to test that! ...wait, I don't use TIO that much.

:( What are you using instead?

...not really anything. I don't use online interpreters much.

i even use TIO when i need to code a thing in straw :P

PhiNotPi

10:37 PM

Someone should make tryitoffline.net

heh

xD

i have 2212 rep

only 10 more to get to 2222

PhiNotPi

Idea: create a cryptolanguage: uses peer-to-peer consensus forming to execute programs.

The person who controls >50% of execution nodes controls the language.

iiuc this mean the meaning of the operations are decided on-the-fly?

10:46 PM

@Dennis repl.it?

@Dennis That sounds good! Only one thing I don't understand: what are server-side permalinks, and what's the advantage over current approach? As I see it, currently the permalink is some sort of base-xx encoding of the code

Objective-C

Objective-C is a general-purpose, object-oriented programming language that adds Smalltalk-style messaging to the C programming language. It was the main programming language used by Apple for the OS X and iOS operating systems, and their respective application programming interfaces (APIs): Cocoa and Cocoa Touch prior to the introduction of Swift. The programming language Objective-C was originally developed in the early 1980s. It was selected as the main language used by NeXT for its NeXTSTEP operating system, from which OS X and iOS are derived. Portable Objective-C programs that do not use...

oh my god

no

What?

Objective-C++

bad + bad

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Q: Close-Knit Words

Introduction According to Rand Al'Thor's post in the Puzzling SE, a close-knit word is any word that contains three alphabetically consecutive letters (in any order). Words like education, foghorn and cabaret are all considered close-knit words whereas words like learning, klaxon and performanc...

code-golf

10:57 PM

Yeah, I never understood why Objective-C++ was a thing. Objective-C is fine though

the syntax is a bit weird tough

I suspect it was implemented to provide a compatibility layer for C++ libraries.

Still strange.

'night golfers

G'night!

@LuisMendo That's the current permalink. Iirc it's base64. I imagine server side will be something like lang.tryitonline.net/<5-8 random characters>

And then that will map to the corresponding code/input/args somewhere local on the server

11:12 PM

night!

11:37 PM

@DJMcMayhem Oh, I see. Yes, those are commonly used in other sites. Any advantage in addition to shorter links? A drawback is the need for that map on the server. It has to store all programs and inputs ever used

@LuisMendo you can edit the program without updating the link

Yeah, editing is the big one. As well as short links

@Maltysen Seems to work now. The last time I tried, pressing keys on the keyboard did nothing.

@Dennis if you click on the wrong place, it sometimes goes out of focus without looking like it did