@El'endiaStarman -1 for postdecrement

Finished the adventure in seeded UnNetHack.

Can chat normally now. :3

CMC: Interpret APL

@zyabin101 Oh no!

@TùxCräftîñg AutoIt: ConsoleWrite(StringAPL($CmdLine[1])) (reads first parameter as APL program and prints to stdout). :P

wat

how

StringAPL is a library function.

it's really an APL interpreter? o_O

It's a function that runs an APL program, yes. No interaction though.

l_l

k we have a winner

@mınxomaτ That is beautiful

Indeed.

@NewSandboxedPosts :D

hello

olleh

helloolleh

rev si mirror hello

si=and :)

@NewSandboxedPosts izi for Mathematica

Wat, you'll find a builtin to express the text as an array of points and connect the points?

@zyabin101 it finds "islands" in 2d arrays, so this shouldnt be hard

xD

How I feel right now. I hate web development. Argh...

CMC: vertically center an object in CSS

haha

@betseg Chat Mega Challenge

@mınxomaτ You have a Cards against Humanity? :O

No.

Do you know Bryan Lunduke's Linux themed Cards Against Humanity?

No :3

Tell me more :D

^^^ Too many words starting with upper case letters :(

@zyabin101 they are Cards Against Humanity, but Linux themed

Ikr.

Too bad they aren't print-n-play... :{

^^^^ almost German

@zyabin101 they are?

Where they are? :{

You have to pay Lunduke :p it's CC0 but you have to pay

He said someone will eventually share publicly free

Aww... :{

(Speaking of print-n-play games, there's inedo.com/release, a free PnP card game. I'm sure it's very fun. :3)

If I may, I want to share with you what I recently discovered to be possible in sed: colored animated output!!!

> TL;DR- I infect Ubuntu desktop installs (VMs) on a daily basis while reversing linux malware.

huh

Hmm, I want to see how much questions I helped the community to close. :3

That is, how much close votes on successfully closed questions. :3

First day in School is almost över yay

> över

ö

:o

@betseg I think you mean :ö

@TimmyD Ü

Ẅ

silence

@Downgoat Ah cool, I'll work on that later if I can.

@mınxomaτ, is your 800,000 open FTP servers research related to information security? :3

Probably. Depends on what you do with the data

If so, I can tell about it in the DMZ, Information Security's chat room. :3

Would appreciate some more feedback on this sandboxed challenge

If you want (and it contributes to their conversation).

Why the heck did my Haxe tips get so many upvotes? It's not like it's a popular golfing language; here are currently only six challenges with Haxe answers on the entire site...

...not one of which is Hello, World!. brb...

@Fatalize It looks okay to me as a challenge, but I personally wouldn't find it very interesting

@ETHproductions Probably because three answers got posted in quick succession, bumping it to HNQ. I saw it there last night at some point and thought it amusing :)

@Sp3000 Thanks. This is supposed to be posted before this one, which I think is more interesting but where I'm worried that there might not be many useful heuristics

irb(main):001:0> {}.has_key
NoMethodError: undefined method `has_key' for {}:Hash
Did you mean?  has_key?

Argh. Why does Marky suck so bad with this new brain? >_<

When people get old they grow senile

TFW a Stack Exchange friend's repo gets trending.

Minxomat, your repo gets trending :D

@Rainbolt Yeah, but I really thought he'd like having a ST:TNG brain :(

Turns out it's worse than using south park dialog. I guess SP has simpler language and it's easier to figure out.

I had to google that so I am officially not a geek

Huh. I only noticed now.

@Rainbolt You can make up for lost geek cred by playing more M:TG ;)

Or by being a boardgamegeek.com :P

Does being a URL make you a geek?

(if GeekGold counts for geek cred, too :P)

Nope, being a BoardGameGeek.

... dot com :P

The tongue sticking out is important too

I started watching Stranger Things yesterday

Any good? I haven't yet.

I thought it was pretty good

iirc it got emmys

p"Hello, World!

hello world in my new language

@Geobits It is very good. I'm glad it's only eight episodes, because I am pretty much glued to it (except I have to go to work)

If you like SciFi you'll like it

The characters kind of suck. None of them are interesting

the girl is a pretty good actress

Elle?

ye

Winona Ryder plays her character well too IMO

idk man. if you're going to have a character who is concerned forever you gotta run Nic Cage

I cannot stand that guy for some reason

Because Ghost Rider :P

@Maltysen as long it is correct^^

@LuisMendo Nice, but that is only for the newest version right?

Pet Peeve: People who introduce a BNA (Brand New Acronym) like this, but never use it again in the rest of the text.

I finally have a geek code! :3

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
G d? s:+ a---- C UL@ P L+ E- W
!N !o K--? w O !M !V !PS !PE
!Y PGP !t !5 !X !R tv b DI--
!D G e-- h-- !r z?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Here, note that some of the sections in the Geek Code are NSFW.

@Geobits I run into that all the time on Board and Card Games SE. People abbreviate the TR (Tournament Rules), JAR (Judging at Regular), IPG (Infraction Procedure Guide), and CR (Comprehensive Rules). I follow the same rule that you do (must use it twice before abbreviating), but I actually think it helps in a learning context, because it teaches them the commonly used acronym, which they could use to understand other posts or maybe improve their Google searches.

I.e., I don't share your pet peeve

@zyabin101 If I ever see someone without "!V" I'll be sad

For commonly used acronyms I don't think it hurts, but for things I've never seen before and likely never will see again it just irks me.

There should be a Golf Code, for code golfers. :3

Wouldn't Golf Code be for golf coders (not code golfers)?

What's this format called: en-GB / de-AU etc. ?

I asked on Friday but didn't get around to submitting so I'll ask again today. Any more thoughts on meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/10069/51785 before I post it?

@mınxomaτ Culture?

@mınxomaτ Language code with nation code.

en is language code, GB is nation code.

@zyabin101 I mean the standard.

Yeah, I always see it called "language code"

@Geobits That would be the first two characters. Notice that this is different from a locale (that would be en_GB).

ISO 639 seems related

Exactly! Locale!

^^

In a web forms website, those codes are the culture. You can set them in the web config or on the page like <%@ Page UICulture="es" Culture="es-MX" %>

@mınxomaτ No, I know that. What I'm saying is I still see the combination called "language code" more often than anything else.

@mınxomaτ rfc 5646

Hm: i18nguy.com/unicode/language-identifiers.html

> Language codes used as primary subtags are from ISO 639. Country codes used as secondary subtags (or tertiary if script tags are secondary) are from ISO 3166.

(5646 obsoleted 3066)

How do you know which RFC obsoletes the RFC you are reading? I ask because just last week I sent what I though was a cool technical email with references to an RFC, only to have the customer tell me which RFC obsoleted it. I was kind of embarrassed that he was right.

It was something to do with the maximum size of an SNMP subidentifier

I thought it was ushort, but I ended up being wrong

@flawr Yes. It works in TIO and in Suever's interpreter now. But it's an addition after the challenge, so you can't use it there

There's this RFC list, but I don't know how accurate it is >_> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RFCs

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
G d-pu s:- a---- C+++ UL P+ L+ E--- !W+++ !N !o K--? w(--) !O !M !V !PS !PE !Y PGP !t !5 !X !R tv b+ DI D+ G e- h !r y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Oh, it just occurred to me that I was reading SNMP v1 (well.. nvm. I don't know what I'm talking about)

I'm just going to call it {639-1}-{ISO 3166-1 Alpha 2}. That's unambiguous, because the RFC allows longer and shorter combinations.

I think most of what people need to know about you they can figure out without decoding the geek code, just by the presence of a geek code.

@Geobits What does the fact that I emailed myself a link so I could look at it in depth later mean?

Hmm, not sure. I usually just open it or bookmark it into "interesting". My browsers sync across all my devices, so I haven't done the email thing in a while.

Err, I mean... it means you're a Windows user.

There, hostility restored.

"I'm so sorry, but this is a fact and i must inform this to you, despite that I'm still doing this harm to you, believe me that I'm just saying it for your good, and it's also a logical fact that you are wasting your time reading this message..."

@Geobits I was getting concerned for your health. Your "nice word to mean word" quotient was looking a little skewed.

It happens from time to time. Doesn't usually last long though.

@mınxomaτ Another idea: Combined ISO code.

@TùxCräftîñg Yet another esoteric programming language ?

People know that it is a combination of ISO standards, but that's about all.

@GLASSIC Nope, it's a Geek Code.

@GLASSIC nop, geek code

Sure, just make it ISO 3805-2.

ninja'd because @ISP PLZ FIX MAH CONNECTION

googling wats geek code

joereiss.net/geek

@GLASSIC It's a way to tell people about yourself in the least social manner.

hmmm... yet another interesting thing i learned form tnb...

> ...in the least social manner.

^ Geobits, wat?

Well, it is. Usually you could just ask people questions and have a conversation to learn these kinds of things. Instead, this is a badly formatted "code" which is not user friendly.

@GLASSIC It's a way to tell people that you're a geek.

@Geobits no, it's simply the geek way

^

That's what I said

ruby question: how to escape a string?

Do you have scissors and/or a knife?

Nope.

example: hello\world > hello\\world

world != string Danke schon.

my brain bugged for a bugged second

@TùxCräftîñg blackskash, or did h mean hneval?

wat

> blackslash

That's normal, Downgoat just has hooves to type.

Blame hooves, etc,etc , we've heard this before ,can we just move on?

^

v

There's no uneval for this. :/

As Downgoat said.

irb(main):001:0> uneval
NameError: undefined local variable or method `uneval' for main:Object
Did you mean?  eval
        from (irb):1
        from C:/Ruby23/bin/irb:11:in `<main>'

@TùxCräftîñg .gsub("\\", "\\\\")

@zyabin101 no he mean hneval :P

@quartata xht

actual answer

@quartata don't work for the quotes

.gsub(/"/,'\\"')

Append another .gsub to it ^

fixed

Wat y u can use1 regex

/\\|"/, "\\$&"

ruby-doc.org/core-2.3.1/String.html#method-i-gsub

Yes you can :3

You mean you can use one supremely ugly regex when two is more efficient and more readable?

^

All right

@quartata ...

is an or really that ugly....

@Downgoat wtf iz dis black slash magic

No but that $& is terrible

@TùxCräftîñg read up on regex substitution

@quartata are you kidding? Why

/\\|"/, "\\$&"

it's more readeable with monospace

Because it isn't self explanatory?

??

the $& look weird

Less weird than four blacjskash in a row

My rule of thumb for regexes is that people should be able to read them without any familiarity with the language's flavor

^

Good luck explaining that to a bunch of golfers.

Or at least get the gist

$& is ubiquitous across regex replacementing...

^^

i never seen $&

No it isn't. It is very much a Ruby or Perl thing.

@quartata even JS has it

Oh, excellent excuse. That makes 3 languages instead of 2.

Lemme put it like this

>>> import re
>>> re.sub(r'\\|"', r"\\$&", '"Hello"')
'\\$&Hello\\$&'

python dont have it

If I gave you a blow to the head and you woke up knowing only POSIX regex you wouldn't understand it. And the vast majority of developers have less regex knowledge than that even.

I guarantee you that if you got an average joe to read your code the first question they'd ask is "what is $&"

@TùxCräftîñg wat wow

Hete at least it might take half a second to read the backslashes

@Downgoat Why on earth are you surprised? It is very much a Perl idiom and it doesn't really belong in JS or Ruby

@quartata well these feature have a reason they exist... not using hen where perfectly applicable because you don't think the feature exists in enough languages is silly IMO :/

In perl at least it makes sense since obviously $& is a variable and it's just string interpolation. It's just a non-intuitive gesture towards Perl in any other language

Stupid Marky. He keeps talking about going to The Bridge >_<

@Downgoat Most regex features exist in all languages. But things like balancing groups are really just applying regex wrong

sorry Martin

There are some exceptions to this because they are intuitive outside of regex. I have no qualms with a recursive regex with a short comment

@quartata ;_; that includes define blocks afaik

@quartata isn't (?R) supported in python and .NET too?

recursing groups arent supported in python afaik

:| I thought Python regex was decent

I guess I should remove $& & co. From cheddar :/

so at last... a geek code ! but i don't understand why such a thing exists on internet...

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GCS d+(-)>++ s+>++:+()> a--- C++(+++) U++>+++ P L+++>++++ E---->--- !W++ N+++ o K--? w-- !O M+ !V !PS !PE !Y !PGP !t !5 !X R- tv b(++) DI !D G e->++++ h+ !r !z
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

becuz internet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Downgoat Pythons regex is OK, it just feels really out of place

Like it doesn't belong in the language but it got awkwardly tacked on

@quartata HA! Have you seen regex? If it does anything useful it's not readable.

The word they're looking for is consultant

snark++;

snafu = snafu + 1

@Geobits -1 for post-increment

+1 for post-increment

you should use pre-increment when you dont need the value

it's faster

Didn't we already have this conversation and decide that isn't true?

:P

^^ idk

We probably did.

Or, it can be true in certain situations, but in most it doesn't matter?

@TùxCräftîñg That should almost certainly be optimized away

And is the speed difference great enough to not be swamped by everything else you're doing in the program?

I dunno. Chat moves pretty fast sometimes, so that could be the bottleneck.