The Nineteenth Byte

zyabin101

22:00

EXAMINATOR 145512, IS UNITY UGLY?

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zyabin101

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TùxCräftîñg

ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209700

zyabin101

PROCESS STILL CONTINUES.

TùxCräftîñg

ERROR: INTERNET CONNECTION TOO SLOW ;_____________;

DJMcMayhem

22:04

@trichoplax 0/10, not enough Dr Seuss

trichoplax

It was whoever happened to be on the top row at the time...

Not a lot of thought went into it...

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DJMcMayhem

Please stop shouting

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zyabin101

@DJMcMayhem Nope, we are not shouting.

This is the caps voice of computers.

trichoplax

22:09

I think the point was that when overused it becomes annoying

zyabin101

LegionMammal and Tux argue over is Unity bad.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

> You are currently banned from participating in this room.

ಠ_ಠ Looks like I just got temp-11'd

TùxCräftîñg

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Downgoat

@trichoplax TNB users have a habit of overusing jokes long past they stop being funny :/

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At least I wasn't perma-11'd

zyabin101

22:12

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ If you get elevened in that way thrice, you'll permanently lose your RO abilities, and won't be able to own/create rooms.

ASCII-only

asks mod to eleven ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ back to ASCII

zyabin101

Read the screenshot VERY carefully.

trichoplax

@Downgoat We're hopefully adjusting that in the right direction...

TùxCräftîñg

rednuht.org/genetic_cars_2 < this is cool

Martin Ender

oh neat, this one does all of them at the same time

trichoplax

22:16

It's even got the ghost of the previous best

zyabin101

Hmm, what happens when an user gets kick muted, and then kick muted again after a large enough period to recover?

Does he get 5 mins, or 1?

trichoplax

I think it only escalates within 24 hours - I'll try and find a source

zyabin101

And can a user who lost RO abilities to his third kick mute, recover them?

TùxCräftîñg

question: what happen when a room lost all ROs?

ASCII-only

@TùxCräftîñg Mods still have RO powers

zyabin101

22:22

@TùxCräftîñg ^

Martin Ender

@trichoplax I think that's just keeping the champion in the population? (The other one does that too)

ASCII-only

@MartinEnder Yeah, it's what the Elite Clones option does

trichoplax

Ah I see

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A: Impose a re-entry delay on users kicked out of a chat room

This has been implemented now. The short story is: room owners can kick abusive users, who will then be banned from re-entering the room for a certain time. Of course you want not just the short story but all the dirty details, so here they are: In the user popup that appears when you click on ...

TùxCräftîñg

the blue is the champion of the last generation and the ghost the champion of all generations

trichoplax

@zyabin101 In short, a mod can restore lost powers

zyabin101

22:28

Chat idea: A R9K mode, which enforces originality and slows down those who try to violate it.

voici

TùxCräftîñg

my $config_file = shift or die "Usage: $0 <config> [<log file to load>]";

shift or die

perl is metal

Syxer

what even is this github thread

oh geez past about March it gets bad

mınxomaτ

> Git will end up removing this fake user

I don't thing Git will do anything about this.

TùxCräftîñg

yes, this bugged me too

Syxer

TBH I'm here because of this comment

ETHproductions

22:44

ETHbot is running in Beep Boop Maggot, if anyone want to talk to him (or at least try to)

Syxer

OMG THE README

TùxCräftîñg

i am internally dying by reading the README xD

@ETHproductions brb calling zalgo

Syxer

hidden for comedy's sake

oml the commit messages

trichoplax

@TùxCräftîñg I like that you can make the landscape "mutable" so that it is different each run and the cars don't specialise

TùxCräftîñg

what the lolz is happening in beep boop maggot O_o

Syxer

22:49

@TùxCräftîñg I had seen this

90% of the conversation is about Rick Astley

TùxCräftîñg

yes You Up►

ETHproductions

Apparently Conor was trying to teach Chatgoat to rickroll a few days ago, so that's what ETHbot is drawing it from

TùxCräftîñg

never learn from other bots

this is a Really Bad Idea™®©℠

quartata

Wonderful. Left for an hour and people started shouting

@TùxCräftîñg This is a very common idiom

or die

that is

It might make more sense if you think about it like this:

important_function_that_returns_falsy_on_error() || throw_an_error()

TùxCräftîñg

ik

in Beep Boop Maggot, 12 secs ago, by ETHbot

@Zalgo Works well, "%I:%M %p") - Never Gonna Give You Up►

ethbot is trying to rickroll zalgo confirmed

Conor O'Brien

23:03

imgur.com

imgur is down

mınxomaτ

No

TùxCräftîñg

isup.me/imgur.com

nope

quartata

> Sorry! We're busy running around with our hair on fire because Imgur is over capacity! This can happen when the site is under a very heavy load, or while we're doing maintenance.

Conor O'Brien

yeah, that

basically down

trichoplax

Fine for me...

Conor O'Brien

23:11

TùxCräftîñg

> Update the README to explain why developers should use NUTS

github.com/letsgetrandy/NUTS

in Beep Boop Maggot, 32 secs ago, by ETHbot

@Zalgo Hamming distance, its certainly not going to rick roll! It had a problem with

mınxomaτ

@quartata Well, I can't complain about this: It made it to HackerNews.

quartata

Oh whoa

mınxomaτ

Is there a price for the most starred, yet completely unfinished software :D ?

TùxCräftîñg

Ctrl-V is a very cool vim command

DJMcMayhem

23:24

@TùxCräftîñg absolutely! In normal and insert mode!

TùxCräftîñg

it's ultra usful for things like my Ruby answer relying on a literal ESC char

DJMcMayhem

Wait, which mode were you talking about?

TùxCräftîñg

insert

DJMcMayhem

Oh, OK. It's also really cool in normal

ga is also extremely useful

mınxomaτ

Also, GH projects is really nice. I didn't realise how much I needed this feature until now.

TheBitByte

23:28

@mınxomaτ If you did not realise it, then you never needed it. /sarcasm

Steven H.

You know you've gone too far into golfing languages when your reference solution is in Pyth

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mınxomaτ

:32321600 For heavens sake, stop deleting your messages.

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trichoplax

A good alternative to deleting a message that you didn't think before posting, is to think before posting

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TheBitByte

@trichoplax But then you cannot predict what people would think if you posted it, before you posted it.

Geobits

You can usually take an educated guess.

trichoplax

23:32

@TheBitByte if you delete it before anyone has a chance to respond, then I'm guessing that's not your reason...

TheBitByte

@Geobits It would be a guess, but not so much educated, since opinions are inherently subjective, including those of mods and/or room owners.

Steven H.

9 hours ago, by El'endia Starman

Stop starring stuff that isn't interesting and/or important.

Conor O'Brien

@StevenH. that is very important.

Dennis

Whatever your reasons are: 1. It's annoying. 2. Stop it.

Steven H.

I was referring to them starring my messages, actually.

Well, message singular now.

Conor O'Brien

23:34

oh

trichoplax

@StevenH. You mean the interesting one?

Steven H.

I didn't consider it interesting as much as humorous, but sure.

TheBitByte

@trichoplax "interesting" is subjective. What you find boring, someone else might find interesting. You might be looking for "consensus" before starring, but then nobody would star anything if they had to ask before doing it.

Geobits

@TheBitByte I don't buy the premise that you have no idea what may or may not cause offense or be annoying. It's a common defense, but not a good one at all.

Helka Homba

@zyabin101 The very beginning

Steven H.

23:36

@TheBitByte Well, there's the important things that'd get starred too.

trichoplax

@TheBitByte My point was that @StevenH.'s message on the starboard is interesting, and I'm not surprised it has been starred

TheBitByte

@trichoplax Well, interesting, yes, but I thought you meant informative. Maybe you didn't.

trichoplax

Sometimes I get mixed up, but on this occasion I meant what I said :P

TheBitByte

You meant what you said, yes, but what you meant is something you can change. :D

trichoplax

I don't know if you are trying to confuse me, but if you are you are succeeding...

Geobits

23:40

In the interest of topic change, here's a video that Minibits insisted I post in here, despite my general reluctance to post animal videos:

Dog Listening To Music, Perking Up His Ears

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TheBitByte

@trichoplax I'm not trying to confuse you. You might be confused yourself, but this is not equivalent to me confusing you on purpose, which I have not done. :D

trichoplax

@TheBitByte I appreciate that. I just wanted to admit my confusion

DJMcMayhem

@Geobits that looks almost like the spitting image of my dog

TheBitByte

@trichoplax Well then, you are a frank person, but confusion as a result of something I have purposely intended has not occurred.

And now I am confused.

trichoplax

Thanks for clearing that up :)

DJMcMayhem

23:43

That with black fur ^

That's what my dog looks like

Geobits

Does he keep the beat with his ears?

TheBitByte

@trichoplax You are welcome. But I must say, your frank nature is interesting.

DJMcMayhem

I don't think he's smart enough to

TùxCräftîñg

i think straw need a proper looping command

trichoplax

@TheBitByte It beats pretending to understand

Downgoat

23:44

@DJMcMayhem wait, if ur cat in the hat. how can cat own dog. i thought cats and dogs didnt go well together

TùxCräftîñg

because ((<body>:&)(<end>):<condition>'):& is... weird

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg is there a command to run a shell command in Straw?

TùxCräftîñg

no

TheBitByte

@trichoplax Well, certainly, "beats" is an interesting choice of a word, but personally not one I would have chosen in such a situation.

trichoplax

I just meant it serves me better

TùxCräftîñg

23:45

@Downgoat dont want to make the language not suitable for TIO

mınxomaτ

> Or you could just only play Linux games. I mean sure, you'll eventually get tired of Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of Mordor. But when that happens you can just play Shadow of Mordor.

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg cant you add safe mode flag or sometihng?

Geobits

Something about this feels like a turing test >_>

DJMcMayhem

@TùxCräftîñg you can just make a safe flag to disallow it. That's what V does

Downgoat

@Geobits that would only be a problem if you're a AI ¬______¬

TùxCräftîñg

23:46

yes... but anyway what could be the utility of a 'execute shell command' command

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zalgo is crazy

Geobits

@Downgoat No, not me. I meant someone else here.

TheBitByte

@trichoplax Well, maybe it does, but this does not change my opinion on your choice of words.

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg well suppose the command to execute shell command was : you could do "cheddar": which would be very helpful/useful command

@Geobits ok then idk who

trichoplax

@TheBitByte Would you consider being more vague?

TùxCräftîñg

i dont want straw to look like (perl -e 'shift or die')μ

Downgoat

23:48

;_; k

trichoplax

@Downgoat Nothing about the Turing test guarantees that being human will make you pass...

TheBitByte

@trichoplax Actually, nope, I do not find myself that I would consider such a position.

Downgoat

@trichoplax well if ur human and fail turning test then the test is borked or ur borked

DJMcMayhem

That would be pretty embarrassing. Failing the Turing test as a human

TheBitByte

@Downgoat Turing tests are not always accurate.

DJMcMayhem

23:49

@Downgoat no, it just means you are dumber than an AI

trichoplax

@Downgoat It's not a humanity test, it's a test for being good at convincing humans that you're human.

Downgoat

@trichoplax ok i fixed my chat message

trichoplax

@Downgoat I concede :P

TheBitByte

@DJMcMayhem You have not defined the capabilities of such an AI first of all, therefore your response is a bit misleading, in my opinion.

Geobits

@Downgoat Not really. The examiners in these tests are looking for something to pin "It's a bot" on. Any awkward phrasing could cause someone to say that, simply because they want to spot any and all mistakes.

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DJMcMayhem

Has anyone seen the movie "Ex Machina"? Good movie about AIs and the Turing test.

trichoplax

The better AIs get at it, the harder it will be for an average human to pass a Turing test

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Helka Homba

Good cheeses - strawpoll.me/11226940

trichoplax

@TheBitByte Just...

TheBitByte

23:52

@trichoplax That is certainly an interesting opinion, but not one I would choose, were I asked such a question.

Geobits

@DJMcMayhem It's not a bad movie overall, but damn is it a bit slow.

6 mins ago, by Geobits

Something about this feels like a turing test >_>

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TùxCräftîñg

looping operator of straw: £

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ What's that?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Found myself on YouTube ;)

DJMcMayhem

23:53

@Geobits that's fair. It's also a little bit disturbing at points

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@TheBitByte Part of the top-right minimap in Factorio

Geobits

@TùxCräftîñg Oh good. Nothing like having basic operators assigned to symbols not present on my keyboard :P

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ What is Factorio?

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba 0/10, no gouda

TùxCräftîñg

so what bout ç

or Ö

Downgoat

23:54

gtg bai

Geobits

How about just a full Lenny?

Downgoat

@TimmyD ಠ_ಠ

TùxCräftîñg

or any cp437 character not in the readme of this

trichoplax

@Geobits This seems more like a human doing its best to convince us it's a bot. Perhaps practice for when the machines take over

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Interesting, certainly.

Geobits

23:56

@trichoplax Right, right. So maybe call it a reverse-turing test, if that's not already a thing.

TùxCräftîñg

so what 'bout º as the looping operator

trichoplax

I was thinking just give the benefit of the doubt, assume its a bot, and kick it. That's presumably the desired outcome?

Geobits

I assume so.

DJMcMayhem

@TùxCräftîñg I don't see how that's any better if you're going for convenience

TheBitByte

@DJMcMayhem Golfing and convenience don't go hand in hand.

TùxCräftîñg

23:59

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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