The Nineteenth Byte

zyabin101

18:01

Challenge idea: Chip's Challenge Koth.

Chip is a bot, programmed by the challenged, and has to reach the end of the level as fast as possible, in terms of turns.

There will probably be only a subset of the game's objects.

wizzwizz4

How does one go about writing a KOTH controller?

zyabin101

idk

TùxCräftîñg

straw.tryitonline.net/#code=YTorJD4kPmEkPmE6KzoqJD4&input=

zyabin101

About the subset of the game's objects:

Obviously yes: walls, keys, doors, chips, and a locked end room with a socket for the entrance and the magic hole to end the level in that end room.

DJMcMayhem

@TùxCräftîñg Why did you edit an off-topic question?

zyabin101

18:05

Oh, and also blocks.

TùxCräftîñg

because i hate seeing code not in code blocks :P

DJMcMayhem

But there's literally no point

Beta Decay

0

Q: Shortest program to convert URLs

Convert a given URL into it's decoded form. Example input: https://...%20A.%20... Example output: https://...A....

conversion

wizzwizz4

@TùxCräftîñg I was so tempted to do that, but forced myself not to. Thanks for doing it, although speaking as a moderator I'm not sure it was a good idea.

DJMcMayhem

Especially since that'll probably put it in the reopen queue

Beta Decay

18:06

VTC guys ^^^

TùxCräftîñg

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ETHproductions

I voted "needs a winning criterion"

But maybe "unclear" is a better choice

zyabin101

I voted "unclear", as the challenge spec first, then winning/validity criteria.

Beta Decay

I chose unclear

TùxCräftîñg

the two close reasons are valid

DJMcMayhem

18:09

Come on guys. It's clearly intended to be a code-golf, and it's a brand new user. Not a single comment before closing it?

quartata

especially considering it's fairly obvious what it is

zyabin101

Uh oh!

New Main Posts

start of message OIN ME BROTHERS AND SISTERS! WE CAN TAKE BACK CYBERSPACE FROM THE SQUISHY MEATSPACE end of message

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zyabin101

We forgot. ._.

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I was going to, but I don't know what to say without saying something wrong

TùxCräftîñg

18:10

@NewMainPosts ¶_¶'ed

zyabin101

@NewMainPosts wizzwizz4, it's your chance.

quartata

urllib.parse.unquote

Beta Decay

I need somewhere on Meta which I can refer to

zyabin101

You might make the next feed bot joke!

quartata

I actually don't blame him for not having examples, if I was a new user who hadn't seen challenges here before I'd assume it was self-explanatory too

Beta Decay

18:11

Maybe, a list of comments which I can copy and paste

quartata

@Doorknob esperanto se launched but lojban se hasn't launched yet :(

TùxCräftîñg

0

A: Produce the number 2014 without any numbers in your source code

maybe not the shortest, but one of the more readable ones in Smalltalk: Transcript show: Date today year.

i tought it was a compiler output o.o

quartata

OK, before anyone downvotes that answer

It was made before the challenge was edited to disallow it

Beta Decay

@TùxCräftîñg Why did you link to that? I thought it was an answer posted today

DJMcMayhem

@NewMainPosts Oin?

Beta Decay

18:15

I was about to downvote and leave a comment

Dennis

@NewMainPosts did you mean oint me brothers

quartata

ew...

TùxCräftîñg

because smalltalk look like natural language

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:P

DJMcMayhem

@BetaDecay you changed your avatar!

zyabin101

18:18

:D

Beta Decay

@DJMcMayhem Haha yep, I keep annoying people every time I change it

So I change it even more ;)

Dennis

elevens it to the old one

3

Beta Decay

Which old one?

Blood dripping Hallowe'en Beta avatar?

Dennis

The yellow-black one you had been using before this madness.

Beta Decay

Yeah, I'll change it now

This is a dumb avatar

Dennis

18:22

3/10 very beta not so much decay

Beta Decay

Changed

2

Plz 11

Dennis

\o/

TùxCräftîñg

/o\

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\o\

TùxCräftîñg

/o/

DJMcMayhem

18:25

:/ I was gonna help out that new user and edit their post to a reasonable challenge but you guys scared them off and they've deleted it now.

3

And I can't contact them

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Oh... :(

TùxCräftîñg

⛌o⛌ < quantum version

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Output the Filename code-golf Challenge Write a program which takes its own file name and outputs it to STDOUT. Your program must work with any file name. You must include the file extension in your output. Examples Some examples: > python3 helloworld.py helloworld.py > python3 gaot.py ga...

DJMcMayhem

@NewSandboxedPosts 3 bytes in V. :)

betseg

@NewSandboxedPosts executable name or source name?

@BetaDecay ^

TùxCräftîñg

18:31

ruby: puts$0

betseg

source: main(){puts(_/**/_FILE__);} executable: main(c,v)char**v;{puts(*v);}

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@betseg Source name

Sure, it's simple, but that's the point

betseg

bash: echo $0

TùxCräftîñg

1 byte shorter in ruby :P

> Fiat Tipo

betseg

^?

DJMcMayhem

18:34

CMC: find out how to do that challenge in V. 3 bytes to the first person

TùxCräftîñg

Fiat Tipo

The Fiat Tipo (Type 160) is a small family car, designed by the I.DE.A Institute design house, and produced by the Italian manufacturer Fiat between 1988 and 1995. The Tipo was initially available only as a five-door hatchback. The car was made entirely out of galvanized body panels to avoid rust, and was built on a completely new Fiat platform, which was later used on Fiat, Alfa-Romeo, and Lancia models. It also stood out because of its boxy styling that gave it innovative levels of packaging, rear passenger room being greater than that in a rear-wheel-drive Ford Sierra, but in a car that was...

betseg

so?

TùxCräftîñg

there is a 'tipo' in the name.................

betseg

:(

Geobits

@DJMcMayhem But I don't want to be bytten...

TùxCräftîñg

18:35

ok sry for my bad joke

DJMcMayhem

Bytten?

TimmyD

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A: Standard New User Welcome Messages

I always start by welcoming the new user. It's best to make users feel welcome in the community and not to sound hostile. I also always recommend the Sandbox (especially now that there's no rep limit). For specific issues: Unclear Welcome to Programming Puzzles and Code Golf! This challeng...

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Bytten and smytten

betseg

@DJMcMayhem %:p?

stolen from vim wiki

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Hehe :p emoticon

TùxCräftîñg

18:36

:p

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Ninja'd

TùxCräftîñg

ninja'd because of slow connection ;_;

DJMcMayhem

@betseg Nope. That's the input file, not the source file.

betseg

@DJMcMayhem oh

#:p?

DJMcMayhem

Also that doesn't quite work. It just prints the content of the file but to somewhere you can't see them

betseg

18:38

:e %?

^^hmm

Beta Decay

That's four bytes

I feel like that challenge is ready for main already... :/

zyabin101

CMC: Roll the Dice. 20d20.

DJMcMayhem

@betseg no, that just reopens the input file

betseg

oh i found

"%p

DJMcMayhem

You're getting closer!

zyabin101

18:41

Okay then, no one has my attention.

DJMcMayhem

That's still the input file though

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 12 15 20 3 1 12 4 16 14 12 18 13 18 19 18 20 13 18 8 10

betseg

@DJMcMayhem it...works?

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg Sum these dice.

Also, where'd you get these? :3

Optimizer

WHAT??? NO IMAGE STARRED MESSAGE?

i leave this chat room for 1 day and this happens

TùxCräftîñg

18:43

@zyabin101 264

@zyabin101 (1..20).each {|x| puts Kernel.rand(20)+1}

zyabin101

Okai, my turn then. :3

TùxCräftîñg

zyabin101

(However, I'll be using RANDOM.ORG for this.)

DJMcMayhem

@betseg no, it doesn't. That prints the name of the file it reads the input from, not the code from

TùxCräftîñg

^^^ star this to fix the star problem

TimmyD

18:44

@zyabin101 PowerShell v2+, 35 bytes --- (1..20|%{1..20|Random})-join'+'|iex

zyabin101

@TimmyD Run it. :3

betseg

@DJMcMayhem ooohhhh

@TùxCräftîñg x2

Optimizer

I said "Starred" message

not image star message

TùxCräftîñg

1 min ago, by TùxCräftîñg

^^^ star this to fix the star problem

Beta Decay

star image star message star image star

TimmyD

18:45

@zyabin101 229

222 ... 248 ... 239 ...

Dennis

Safari doesn't support <datalist>? Seriously?

TùxCräftîñg

eval((1..20).map{|i|Kernel.rand(20)+1}.join"+")

quartata

I'm going to have to leave this day out of the training set for Star-O-Tron clearly

TùxCräftîñg

Star-O-Tron?

zyabin101

20d20 = 177

TimmyD

18:47

Star, Star, Star, Star, Starrity-Star!

quartata

@Dennis TIL datalist is new in HTML5

It feels like it's been around for ages

TimmyD

Whoa ... the new user just radically changed their challenge

DJMcMayhem

0_0

TùxCräftîñg

σ_σ

Beta Decay

Wow, is that an alright question now?

TùxCräftîñg

18:49

look like

Beta Decay

I feel really guilty now :P

Dennis

@quartata Well, HTML 5 is almost 2 years old... <datalist> would have been perfect for TIO. Now I have to roll my own. Thanks a lot, Apple.

quartata

I think there's a workaround

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A: HTML5 datalist tag is not populating in Safari

HTML5 datalist workaround for Safari and/or older browsers You can use a select element inside the datalist, and duplicate the option tag values as readable text in these. For example: <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <title>test</title> <style> input[list="languages"] { width: 12em;...

DJMcMayhem

@BetaDecay judge it on it's own merit. Is it clear?

quartata

^^ I remember doing this for something a while back

betseg

18:51

who uses safari anyways?

quartata

Most mobile users?

betseg

im ignoring the most part, but true :/

DJMcMayhem

I use Chrome on mobile

TùxCräftîñg

i use FF on mobile

Beta Decay

@DJMcMayhem Well I'm not completely clear on what it's about, but it might probably be clear to a mathematically inclined person

betseg

18:53

@DJMcMayhem saem

Beta Decay

I use Chrome for Android aussi

Dennis

@quartata Not sure about most (at least here, Android is by far more common than iOS), but still enough to need a workaround for TIO.

@quartata Yeah, just found that myself. I wish I had a way to see how it looks on Safari though.

TùxCräftîñg

example html for my new js library i am developing:

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
    <head>
        <meta charset="utf-8" />
        <script type="application/javascript" src="dialpha.js"></script>
        <title>Hello</title>
    </head>
    <body>
        <script type="dialpha/dialpha-asm">
            push8 0
            "Hello, World!"
            call print
            flush
            halt
            :print
            dup
            jiz print.end
            putc
            jump print
            :print.end
            ret
        </script>

DJMcMayhem

@BetaDecay it's not really mathy though. The two problems I see are 1) "moving * that rotates clockwise around the corners, starting from the top left." Is unclear and 2) one of the test cases is 3x4, not 4x4.

Beta Decay

@DJMcMayhem It isn't? Oh, I see

quartata

18:55

@Dennis I can take a picture of it on mobile Safari if you give me a page

not right now though

Beta Decay

FYI, is posting multiple lines of code in chat acceptable? I, personally, find it extremely annoying (not just you Tux, but you reminded me)

Dennis

Haven't implemented it yet. Seeing how the language selection is a rather important part of TIO, I guess I'll just roll my own.

betseg

> Don't post huge oneboxes (ppcg.github.io/chatiquette)

Dennis

I didn't think I'd ever come by a feature in the HTML spec that works on IE but not on Safari...

7

zyabin101

@BetaDecay Isn't a huge one box, but too large for some.

Beta Decay

18:59

@zyabin101 Too large for mobile devices

betseg

btw unicode doesnt have a ninja emoji ;_;

TheBitByte

Hello my friends!

zyabin101

Sdneirf ym olleh!

TheBitByte

19:15

Um

Isn't it a bit weird this reverse text thing happens only when I show up, and if somebody else says hello you might not do it?

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yllaer toN

mınxomaτ

GitHub profile page redesign just rolled out.

Beta Decay

@mınxomaτ gimme-teh-linkz

mınxomaτ

@BetaDecay Go to your profile -.-

E.g. github.com/minxomat

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Oh I see

You've got an amazing avatar

I love it

mınxomaτ

19:19

I love it, too :D

TùxCräftîñg

wat happened to GH O_o

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What do you mean?

mınxomaτ

There's wallpapers, too: imgur.com/a/20Lej

DJMcMayhem

@mınxomaτ that's Purdy

mınxomaτ

that's what now

DJMcMayhem

19:21

Pretty

I like the new design

Beta Decay

Nothing is different for me :(

mınxomaτ

You see the weird "Git Rest" orga? That's how I broke GitHub.

Try clicking on it.

Beta Decay

@mınxomaτ Error 404?

mınxomaτ

Yes

I demonstrated to GH how easy one can create these "ghost" organizations and how it breaks a number of things. The bug has been there for months, still unfixed.

TùxCräftîñg

github.com/tuxcrafting/dialpha

Beta Decay

19:28

@TùxCräftîñg Is that another language you've made?

mınxomaτ

Also, I've noticed a new "projects" tab on GitHub repos.

Neat

Beta Decay

Hm cool

TùxCräftîñg

@BetaDecay ...yes

quartata

@DJMcMayhem Did you ever get CG working locally?

If so lemme know if you need help picking through the source

mınxomaτ

Ooh, and GH now even has a code review feature.

Code Review on GitHub

►

quartata

19:34

Eyy

DJMcMayhem

@quartata I haven't tried it yet. I'll screw around with it tonight if I have the time, and then I'll let you know

Should it work on winblows?

quartata

Yes

You may want to refork since I had a commit recently

zyabin101

@mınxomaτ Screenshots? :3

mınxomaτ

@zyabin101 That video has some 30 screenshots per second :P

DJMcMayhem

~~winblows~~ uh I mean ~~microsuck~~ uh, I mean ~~MS-DUMB~~ uh, I mean...

:P

quartata

19:36

teehee

DJMcMayhem

And yet I still use it...

betseg

> Note: Since a lot of new people are here looking for this chart today,
I'll be posting Wednesday's comic on Thursday instead.

hmmm

zyabin101

I'm so much excited for the new GitHub universe, that I'm ready to reset my account to try it all.

mınxomaτ

I like how a project that doesn't even have a main branch yet, already has >15 stars ...

@zyabin101 Why would you need to reset your account?

zyabin101

Don't worry, I won't. ;)

Idea for informal chat currency: green stars :P

mınxomaτ

19:43

How about no.

zyabin101

that's just an idea, don't worry :P

TùxCräftîñg

Rakete1111, Karlsruhe, Germany

10.1k 5 24 54

c++ c++11 templates string arrays vector pointers

@BetaDecay

mınxomaτ

There are now four threads on 4chan about alwsl. If anyone here is creating them, please stop.

DJMcMayhem

Why are you on 4chan in the first place?

mınxomaτ

It shows up in my GitHub traffic origin

Dennis

19:54

Tfw you need a downvote on your answer to get a gold badge. ._.

mınxomaτ

What?

Geobits

@Dennis Need a hand? :P

Rainbolt

My understanding of 4Chan is that when you tell those people to stop, they troll you even harder. Have they changed in recent years?

DJMcMayhem

Haha, how? And which answer? And why?

Rainbolt

4chan? 4Chan?

mınxomaτ

19:55

@Rainbolt Wasn't it sold at some point? Maybe something changed. I wouldn't now.

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem I've posted several answers to the same question, and the less popular one was accepted. If the other (more popular) answer outscores the other one by a factor of >2, I get a Populist badge.

DJMcMayhem

I think I know exactly which question you're talking about, haha

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ It's the hacker known as 4chan

mınxomaτ

who is this 4 ... chan?!

Anonymous

Also not all of 4chan is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Just most of it. Some boards (especially the tech boards, which I suspect is where your traffic is coming from) are pretty tame.

DJMcMayhem

19:59

You wanna know something sad? I basically earned populist for this answer:

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A: Expand a C array

Vim, 54, 52, 49 47 keystrokes 2wa0<esc>qqYp<c-a>6ldf @qq@q$dT]dd:%norm dwf{xwC;<CR>gg"0P Explanation: 2wa0<esc> 'Move 2 words forward, and insert a 0. qq 'Start recording in register Q Yp 'Duplicate the line ...

Geobits

No, no. It's just 4. -chan is a diminutive form.

DJMcMayhem

But it doesn't count cause it's my own challenge ;_;

mınxomaτ

@Geobits I was referencing the FOX reporter.

Geobits

I got a populist on SO, but I'm not proud of that answer.

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