The Nineteenth Byte

Nathan Merrill

19:00

@TimmyD lol

TimmyD

If I had to guess, I think the -match operator barfed

Rainbolt

@NathanMerrill Just throwing out bad ideas here in case a good one can be derived from it: don't allow them to index into the map. Create a getCell(x,y) method that returns a generic Cell object. The Cell object is a ReadonlyCell if you don't own the territory. Otherwise the Cell is an OwnedCell. Leave it to the caller to figure out which type to cast it to.

Nathan Merrill

well, ownership is by territories (collection of cells), and usually bots will want to do something on each of the territories

so I think I'm going to pass a list of territories

however, the problem is still there for certain cases

for example, a Territory has a "addObject" function

where an object can be a unit, tower, or a variety of other things

the only thing they can add is a unit or tower

(but internally, adding other objects can be added)

actually, I think addUnit() and addTower() are fine function calls

Nathan Merrill

19:16

@Rainbolt bah, nevermind. "Package" literally means in the same folder.

it means that all of my objects would need to be in the same folder

TheNumberOne

@NathanMerrill Use a final protected method of the player to change the cells would maybe work.

Then have the superclass check to see if you can access that cell, and then call the package private method on the cell.

Nathan Merrill

package private doesn't work

because it requires everything to be in the same folder

and I'm not going to do that

TheNumberOne

You would need only your player abstract class and your cell class in the same folder.

Nathan Merrill

? Those are completely unrelated

I'd also need my Territory and my MapObject in the same folder

TheNumberOne

Alternatively, have the player pass themselves to the cell.

Or just some form of id that can't be duplicated.

Jonathan Allan

19:23

@Dennis - beautiful work. Or 0.5 is inspired.

Nathan Merrill

@TheNumberOne MapObjects can add "cost" to a territory. Aka, a Territory has an addCost(int amount). I could require the MapObject to be passed in as well, but then I have to iterate through each of locations and check to make sure that the map object is actually there

there is definitely a tradeoff between "security" and "speed" :/

anyways, I think I agree with you guys...I should make unavailable functions inaccessible

I just don't like paying the costs

feersum

Does a "map object" represent the whole map, or some "thing" in the map?

TimmyD

PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> 1000,2000,3000,4000,5000|%{"$_ -> "+(Measure-Command{.\is-this-a-smith-number.ps1 $_}).TotalSeconds + " seconds"}
1000 -> 0.9697675 seconds
2000 -> 6.8534284 seconds
3000 -> 22.3712074 seconds
4000 -> 52.5364098 seconds
5000 -> 101.8297255 seconds

Dennis

@JonathanAllan :)

trichoplax

19:50

Does anyone else see Nathan Merril's posts with "loading..." when the name and avatar would normally be?

Seems to be fixed now

Theo

@trichoplax no

TimmyD

Blame Caching.™

zyabin101

20:03

silence

muddyfish

@zyabin101 will fall

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Q: Mine Sweeper At Work

Everyone knows the old minesweeper game that shipped with Windows XP. It's a simple grid with a 9x9 matrix of cells containing either a number (indicating how many mines are adjacent to it) or a mine. The challenge is to generate a random 9x9 grid with 10 bombs given any integer seed (up to wh...

TheNumberOne

@NathanMerrill Do you have a sandbox post of the challenge you are currently working on?

Nathan Merrill

yes!

...I need to finish the post

but it's here:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Slay This KoTH is based off of the computer game, Slay. Try it out, its way fun. Believe it or not, this game is all about managing finances of all of your territories. Map The game is played on a hexagonal map generated using Perlin noise. It is randomly divided up into small territories (...

I also need to write a good introduction

because I basically get started right into the details

zyabin101

Idea for challenges with very much rules: a summary beside the real rules.

> A summary of the rules for short attention spans. (Yes, you have to read the real rules below. Sorry, but you do.)

Nathan Merrill

20:18

actually, most of my rules aren't that important to read

but because challenges need to be self contained, I need to explain the entire game, including all edge cases

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Q: Help: Aliens Programmers only speak ASCII

Setting the Scene: It is an average afternoon, as you unwind after a long day by engaging in your favorite pastime: answering the plethora of captivating questions on PPCG. It hasn't been a good day for you; those damned Pyth programmers keep getting best answer and it's killing your vibe. Sudde...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

DJMcMayhem

20:38

Wow that's a long backstory

Releasing Helium Nuclei

20:52

@DJMcMayhem why is eval so sad?

\=

@muddyfish when the question is asked

should i ask tips for golfing in S.I.L.O.S

DJMcMayhem

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei it's just horribly ungolfy

El'endia Starman

21:16

@NathanMerrill Nice investigative work. :D

Releasing Helium Nuclei

woo TIL :%s/aaaaa/&bbbbb/g will change every aaaaa to aaaaabbbbb

woo TIL << and >>

flawr

ThreeFx

Okayyyy

My profile pic has changed EVERYWHERE now

creepy

flawr

It seems not everywhere.

Red or violet?

ThreeFx

Red

It's red everywhere now

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

21:31

@HelkaHomba Since you came up with the original basis for this challenge, what do you think of this: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/9975/30525

DJMcMayhem

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei yup, & == \0. Also, look into \zs and \ze, they're simalarly awesome

El'endia Starman

I see red too. Someone will die tonight.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@DJMcMayhem what do those do

flawr

@El'endiaStarman More like 75k people are going to die tonight.

Steven H.

Is it possible to make a competitive Whitespace answer if we compressed it into base3 and then took the base2 representation of that?

Releasing Helium Nuclei

21:46

Humans will cease to exist one day. What will cause it? (Strawoll)

El'endia Starman

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei You don't have "evolution" as an option. :P

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@El'endiaStarman scontent-otp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/…

2

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata how long do you estimate finishing quarkhack to take?

Maltysen

@StevenH. why base 2? do you mean base 256?

and i kinda doubt it would be competitive, but it might

Steven H.

The binary representation, bitwise. Why would you need to package it into bytes?

Maltysen

21:59

@StevenH. cuz we score by bytes

flawr

@Maltysen Nobody ever said we can't have fractions of bytes.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@flawr Infrared

flawr

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ -1 not a colour

Steven H.

@flawr exactly, thank you

bitdump

Maltysen

@flawr true

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

22:03

@flawr 5240 MHz

Steven H.

Imagine winning by one bit

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

22:14

@ConorO'Brien, @Syxer RDFTD

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Too bad I can't listen to it :/

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

:/ why not?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

Still waiting for replacement part to fix headset

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

you don't have a builtin speaker?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

(and the regular speakers refuse to be recognized by any OS)

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ It's a desktop computer

No sound card, you see

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

22:17

hm, okay

my desktop does

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Well, mine used to belong to my father, and he built it from scratch

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh cool

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

It has an i7(-2600K :/)

Downgoat

Good thing: Today in my french class I watched a movie about goats. Bad Thing: A goat died ;_____;

10

Maltysen

@Downgoat school started for you already?

also, lel

Downgoat

22:24

it started a while ago :/

@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@Maltysen it started a month and a day ago for me :/

Fatalize

@Downgoat A movie about goats...?

Downgoat

idk its a french movie

Fatalize

wat

Maltysen

@Downgoat did the goat get eaten by snek?

Downgoat

22:31

no

Maltysen

also, how are doing on using snek?

Downgoat

a guy shot it

and another guy got bad

@Maltysen i tri but snek bit me :(

Maltysen

@Downgoat :O

@Downgoat did namedtuple work for you?

Downgoat

idk. I left python program on school computer

Maltysen

o

Conor O'Brien

22:52

CMC: given a number as a string, convert to scientific notation without eval

Maltysen

@ConorO'Brien +cQ^TKs.lQT+\eK

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@Maltysen what lang

Maltysen

pyth

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@ConorO'Brien Mathematica, 29 bytes: ScientificForm@*N@*FromDigits

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@Maltysen pyth.tryitonline.net/… lel

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

22:57

^

Maltysen

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei ah damn forgot about negative exponents

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

CMC: Leave this room for at least 5 minutes

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ will do 10 minutes later – will start right before i fall asleep

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ already done

I think

Destructible Watermelon

Yo!

Conor O'Brien

22:59

salut

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Heyyyy

Maltysen

CMC: find out the significance of the series: [1, 14641, 104060401, 1004006004001, 10004000600040001, 100004000060000400001, ...]

Destructible Watermelon

well, I can see the pattern, but not the significance...

Optimizer

its not long enough is the significance

its a short series

ughh

Destructible Watermelon

fourth powers that are palindromes in base 10

Conor O'Brien

23:02

a row in pascal's triangle separated by N-1 zeroes, or something

Optimizer

y u do dis ;_;

Maltysen

@DestructibleWatermelon yup

Destructible Watermelon

oeis ftw

Maltysen

@DestructibleWatermelon wait seriously?

Destructible Watermelon

yup

El'endia Starman

23:03

I immediately recognized them as fourth powers of 10^n+1.

Pascal's Triangle FTW!

Maltysen

@El'endiaStarman those turn out to be the only fourth powers that are palindromes

Conor O'Brien

^

El'endia Starman

@Maltysen That's pretty cool.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

(sum_1^n(10^n))^2 is nice too

Things like 12345678987654321

Destructible Watermelon

if any([any(' 'in i[0:1]+i[~0:~1] for i in program),any(any(not i in "| " for i in j)for j in program)]):

why

Releasing Helium Nuclei

23:07

Oh u haz 1010 repz?!?!

Destructible Watermelon

yes!

for too long though...

Releasing Helium Nuclei

And i haz 896

El'endia Starman

Am I right in thinking that the only palindromic (n>4)-th powers in base 10 are all 1?

Destructible Watermelon

hmmmm

let's check oeis!

El'endia Starman

I'm not sure how OEIS would help here.

Destructible Watermelon

23:10

ok, I couldn't find one for any...

I'll try bruteforcing with python!

El'endia Starman

Brute force is not a proof. :P

Releasing Helium Nuclei

What if 483228428818238482827^73 is palindrome? How would you know?

Maltysen

do we not have any challenge which is give an equation of a line from two points?

Destructible Watermelon

@El'endiaStarman if I find something, you can't refute?

it seems like i found one, but I think it may be bug

Conor O'Brien

lol

give it to us anyhow

Destructible Watermelon

23:14

x=int(input())
print(any(str(i**x)==(str(i**x)[::-1])for i in range(int(input()))))

prints true

Maltysen

...did you print the actual answer?

Destructible Watermelon

I'll figure out which it is

nope, I haven't yet

Maltysen

@DestructibleWatermelon its 1

Destructible Watermelon

... oh right

Maltysen

you didn't exclude 1 or 0 from your range

Releasing Helium Nuclei

23:15

Lol

Destructible Watermelon

let me try that again then

(told you it was bug)

Releasing Helium Nuclei

chat mini..... thing: n^m=n^(m+4) n=?

El'endia Starman

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Uh, 0, 1, or +/- i? Unless there's some other weird in-between value.

Eamon Olive

gi

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@El'endiaStarman also -1

El'endia Starman

23:18

Oh yeah, that too.

Destructible Watermelon

ok, probably not a fifth power palindrome

probs not sixth, either

Releasing Helium Nuclei

WA doesn't say 0, probably because 0^0 is undefined m.wolframalpha.com/input/…

quartata

Steam has probably the worst uptime of any major service I know

El'endia Starman

@quartata What about Imgur and/or Reddit?

quartata

It feels like every time I click on a Steam link something is broken

@El'endiaStarman Definitely worse

Geobits

23:25

So amazingly bored :/

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Saem

Geobits

There's just only so much I can do about it with power being out.

DJMcMayhem

You could golf code from your phone!

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Wow power was out here too

Yesterday

@DJMcMayhem more than Half of my answers were golfed on my phone ._.

DJMcMayhem

Try writing vim answers with unprintable characters from your phone.

I do that all the time

Downgoat

23:31

@DJMcMayhem o_o

wat

Geobits

Haha, yea it's been out for 20 hrs or so now. Trying to conserve the phone at least a little :)

Downgoat

i cant even golf make JS answer on phone

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat I wrote the vim "tabs vs spaces" answer from my phone while I was at the gym rock climbing.

I might have an addiction

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem ._____.

how u do dis ._.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

> while I was at the gym rock climbing

El'endia Starman

23:34

Presumably not while actually on the wall. :P

quartata

I'd hope, at least.

Geobits

Pfft, who needs two hands for that?

DJMcMayhem

You never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That would be atleast 20 times more impressive if I did that while on the wall

Releasing Helium Nuclei

You remember that?

Aug 27 at 22:22, by Releasing Helium Nuclei

@DJMcMayhem in the toilet?

That's how i golf

Geobits

I can't golf Java on the phone though. That would take foreeeeever

Releasing Helium Nuclei

23:36

Don't code Java anyways

DJMcMayhem

@Geobits s/on.*//

3

Geobits

Pfft

Downgoat

12

@DJMcMayhem am i undestanding you correct .___.

Geobits

Jealousy doesn't look good on you guys.

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat If he's top-roping, yes.

Could be bouldering (which is what I like).

DJMcMayhem

23:38

@Downgoat That was beautiful.

Thankyou for making me actually lol

Downgoat

np

@DJMcMayhem XD

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman I usually do bouldering, but I just got a harness recently, so I was top-roping

Downgoat

:O I got it right!!!!

DJMcMayhem

fwiw, I had both legs on the ground while I was golfing.

Downgoat

8

@DJMcMayhem fixed

DJMcMayhem

23:41

bwahaha

Releasing Helium Nuclei

10/10 drawing, would look again - ign

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@MartinEnder Currently finding a new large number with my 17 remaining bytes after your golf, best I can come up with right now is Nest[#!,9,9^9^9!]

(And I see no way of figuring its value out with HyperCalc...)

Wait, it's 18 bytes...

ASCII-only

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ wait what is this for

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

3

A: The longest period iterating quine

Mathematica, period 1010108.567841344 9999! ≈ 101010102.192984439 Print[StringJoin[ToString[#0, InputForm], "[", ToString[#1 - 1 /. 0 -> "9^9^99!"], "]"]] & [9^9^99!] The iterations replace the final 9^9^99! with the literal numbers 9999! - 1, 9999! - 2, 9999! - 3, ..., 3, 2, 1, and back to 9^...

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

@ConorO'Brien When are you going to post the fragile Quine challenge? I've just come up with a great solution to it

Conor O'Brien

23:54

@βετѧΛєҫαγ idk

working on hw

sometime tomorrow or tonight

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

Oh haha alright

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@ConorO'Brien on what time zone

Conor O'Brien

zyabin has a timezone sheet

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Oh yeah it should be on Drive history

Is it 18:58 there?

ASCII-only

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Wouldn't 9^9^9 be good enough?

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