The Nineteenth Byte

PhiNotPi

00:04

You can call me "PheNotyPe"

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@PhiNotPi oic

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

phenotype

that one google search

El'endia Starman

Why does PostgreSQL have to be so friggin' hard to get started with?</whine>

Helka Homba

strawpoll.me/10867400

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba One of my high school teachers liked to say "Who is my favorite band.".

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

00:12

@HelkaHomba CCR hands down, no contest.

Helka Homba

I really can't decide

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Pink floyd, close second.

Dennis

I don't think I know a song of any if them but The Who.

And that's only because of CSI.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Aren't the Beatles 60's? Or would they be 70's?

Quill

I prefer the SVU theme song

Helka Homba

00:14

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I omitted them since I figured everyone would choose them

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I guess that's fair.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I wouldn't be able to pick between LZ and beatles :/

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan They broke up in 70

@HelkaHomba Pink Floyd, ez

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

CCR makes me think of vacations with my family growing up. Along with, van Morrison, the Beatles, Billy Joel, Tom pretty, and John Mellencamp.

Oh, and Johnny cash.

Helka Homba

Johnny Cash = good road trip music

Dennis

00:21

OK, I do know The Beatles.

quartata

You've never heard of Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

or Led Zeppelin?

Dennis

Of course I've heard of them, but I don't know which songs they play.

Quill

sounds like it's time for an emergency best of playlist

Dennis

But I had honestly never heard of CCR. I found the full name on Google, but it didn't help.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:32

I knew of them, but not the acronym :/

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Yeah, the acronym took me a little while to figure out also. I almost picked pink floyd because of it.

Dennis

OK, went through the list of songs. I've never heard of nor heard a song of CCR.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

You should listen to "bad moon rising". That's their best.

Dennis

I doubt I'd appreciate it. Rock isn't really my cup of tea.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What music do you like?

El'endia Starman

00:38

...for anyone (like me) who still doesn't know what CCR stands for: Creedence Clearwater Revival.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

image-processingcode-challenge Autonomous Vehicle I need a brain for my self-driving car. Something that will take still frames from the front-facing camera and give the navigation system commands. Obviously, if my car is driving me somewhere, I don't want to stop. However, I also don't want to...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan golfing music

Dennis

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Hard to say. I guess most songs I like would fall under pop, which is a rather broad spectrum.

Leaky Nun

I prefer to explain the "already" in "do it already" as "why haven't you done that already", while some asserts that it means "right now" as in "do it right now".

Dennis

After a bit of gooling, it turns out that I knew 4 or 5 songs from The Rolling Stones, just not that they were their songs.

Leaky Nun

00:43

Question: if a pop music isnt popular is it still pop music?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun if it pops, yes

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I thought pop is a short form of popular

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

it is, I'm just messing around :P

Helka Homba

@Dennis Chances are you kinda know the other bands too if you know Stairway to Heaven or Bad Moon Rising or Baba O'Riley

Dennis

Don't ring a bell.

Helka Homba

00:47

Complete the lyric: I'm pickin' up ____ __________. She's giving me ___________.

@Dennis :|

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba I'm pickin' up "bad alcohol". She's giving me "alcohol"

alternatively, "good vibrations"

I do know some of the pseudo-beatles songs

Helka Homba

That's Beach Boys..

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yup.

pseudo beatles.

Helka Homba

Beach Boys != Beatles. D: I'm going to go gently weep...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"Party in the USA" "Party in the USSR"

Helka Homba

00:51

Back in the USSR

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm bad at names

I only know you guys' names because they're always next to your face >_>

Helka Homba

Surfin' USA

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

49 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm bad at names

I'm more of a 90s guy anyhow :p

Helka Homba

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Smells like teen spirit...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ahaha

Helka Homba

00:56

I just don't get how VEVO managed to brand that song long after Kurt died

@PhiNotPi (and others) Name your favorite piece of orchestral music.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba define classical?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I love the third movement of moonlight sonata. It's a shame how it gets ignored because of the first one.

I don't like the second one at all though.

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Q: Random character from a string

Your goal in this code-golf is to pick a random character from a string. If a character appears X times, and there are Y characters, then the chance of that character being picked will be X/Y. Input The program takes a string as an input. Output Your program outputs a character. Examples x...

Helka Homba

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ er, orchestral. Modern is fine

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It can't be very MUCH money ... they apparently can't even afford a sampler. I mean, with a little remixing, some of this could be kinda good!

Helka Homba

01:00

Mine is probably Bolero

- Maurice Ravel BOLERO - Wiener Philharmonic

►

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Oh. Lame. I don't know anything about orchestral. I have a lot more opinions about classical.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I am making a bit construction system based off of technologic lyrics

change it scroll it scroll it scroll it change it scroll it print it
surf it tune it check it turn it change it scroll it change it scroll it print it
break it surf it surf it surf it scroll it burn it turn it change it scroll it print it print it
scroll it scroll it change it turn it change it turn it print it

"Hello"

Leaky Nun

01:15

5-answer streak completed

my life is now complete

LegionMammal978

01:31

Chat mini-challenge: Find a Linux distro that can be run with 32kB of RAM.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

code-golf string Move platforms! The Challenge Given either a string, multiline string, or a two dimensional array, and a positive integer n, output the position of the platforms n turns after the initial position. U, D, R, L are platforms. ^, v, >, < are arrows that change the directio...

El'endia Starman

@LeakyNun I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think there's something wrong or dishonest with what you did. I mean, really, five answers in golfing languages, three of which are 1-byte built-ins. It's like you just want to win and don't really care about anything else.

Leaky Nun

@El'endiaStarman eh, wut?

El'endia Starman

It's like you're just taking the cheap and easy way out.

Leaky Nun

What should I do instead?

El'endia Starman

01:37

Post one answer and let others get the other ones? Not answer the question?

Leaky Nun

I see

El'endia Starman

I may be the only one that feels this way.

Leaky Nun

@El'endiaStarman Should I post one with java?

DerpfacePython

Hello

El'endia Starman

@LeakyNun Sure, and post one in C# too. And maybe Python and Ruby while you're at it. Just hog all the answers.

Dennis

01:46

I don't think there's something wrong with posting more than one answer to the same question.

That question really hits the sweet spot between impossible in some languages and boring in most of the others though...

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

Is a golfing language that converts the source input into a less terse program in a different language, then simply invokes tools that compile/run the translated program, an acceptable golfing language (assuming that otherwise it's valid, no standard loopholes, etc?)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@hexafraction yes, that's fine. It's almost what my language does (not quite)

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Thanks. I'd like to make a terser Verilog someday.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@El'endiaStarman You're not. I was thinking the same thing. I almost downvoted, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Dennis

That's downvoting because of the poster instead of the post, which is never a good idea.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

01:50

True. I didn't though.

DerpfacePython

Uhh I don't know how to say this but...

I made a new language IDE

based off StackyLogic

Dennis

I think you just did. :P

DerpfacePython

And it's kinda buggy

El'endia Starman

@Dennis Surely not; plenty of people have posted at least two answers to a challenge. Five out of six answers is pushing it though (and they're all trivial).

DerpfacePython

Can someone help?

El'endia Starman

01:51

Well, the J answer doesn't seem to be trivial.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I don't have any problem with multiple answers from the same user, but when it's a challenge that isn't even worth answering, it kinda bugs me.

El'endia Starman

(And for what it's worth, I didn't downvote any answers, though I was tempted to.)

Leaky Nun

@LeakyNun do you permit the use of different languages within one submission? — Rohan Jhunjhunwala 4 hours ago

Any meta for this?

Helka Homba

@DerpfacePython Oh?

DerpfacePython

@HelkaHomba Yeah.

I added some new things

New commands and such

To (try to?) make it semi-ish Turing Complete

Helka Homba

01:58

@Dennis I agree. As long as the answers are correct and everything there's no need to stifle the answerer's fun. If lots of trivial answers are possible the problem probably lies in the question.

Leaky Nun

So when I do it, it is hardcoding.

But when @Dennis does it, then it is alright.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@hexafraction Yes, that's what MATL/most JS-based ones/Brachylog do

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Hence why I downvoted the question. But still, you have no problem with the same user posting 7 of 9 answers?

DerpfacePython

So... help with debugging my compiler for SL+?

LegionMammal978

02:13

@DerpfacePython SL+?

PhiNotPi

Soo.... I'm trying to make a last second decision on whether to update my Windows 7 / linux dual-boot to Win 10 / linux.

DerpfacePython

It's a language inspired by StackyLogic

PhiNotPi

opinions?

DerpfacePython

But now it's better (and closer - if not already - Turing-Complete).

LegionMammal978

@PhiNotPi I did it, worked fine, just don't try to change the Windows boot partition

PhiNotPi

02:15

okay

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@PhiNotPi I'd go with win 10 unless you are paranoid about privacy.

Helka Homba

@PhiNotPi idk about linux but Windows 10 is far better than 7 in my experience

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I think 10 is fantastic compared to 7 but lots of people dislike the privacy settings.

PhiNotPi

I'll try to do some customization to fix the privacy thing. I'll try updating it.

LegionMammal978

I mean, I don't see much of a difference with 10 other than different graphics

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

02:17

Sure the graphics are better, but it also feels faster, more keyboard shortcuts, virtual desktops, dx12

El'endia Starman

There are also UI improvements in Win 10.

LegionMammal978

Fun fact: I actually had more trouble with my Ubuntu 16.04 upgrade than my Win10 one (Microsoft did something correctly for once! :O)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

And that ^^

El'endia Starman

Windows 10 is great. Except for being insanely pushy and trampling all over users' wishes.

5

LegionMammal978

But then again, I barely ever use Win10, too lazy to reboot...

El'endia Starman

02:18

But that doesn't happen too often. I don't care enough to really be annoyed by it.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Like <ctrl+bs> at the login screen. That irked me for years with 7.

LegionMammal978

^^

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ?

PhiNotPi

Well.... an update might not happen if Microsoft's servers are acting up.

LegionMammal978

^, I hear that the free upgrade won't be available for much longer

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

<ctrl-bs> is supposed to be "delete to beginning of line" but stupid Microsoft thinks I want to insert an unprintable character into my password login screen.

That's my #1 favorite win 10 improvement.

Helka Homba

02:22

@El'endiaStarman No. I can see how it might be rude in a way to use up languages others wanted. But I wouldn't call it "spam" or anything if the answers are all unique and valid. Discouraging people from contributing to the site when they get excited about a challenge is also rude in a way.

Though, take what I say with a grain of salt since I'm not an experienced answerer

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan @Microsoft what a ctrl-BS thing to think! :P

El'endia Starman

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Isn't Ctrl+Backspace "delete word"? Which would be the line on a password entry screen.

(You can do Ctrl+Backspace in SE chat at least, or that might be Chrome's doing.)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@El'endiaStarman actually, I'm not sure. I think it's line.

I'm really more of a vim guy myself, so I just prefer cc

LegionMammal978

You know, I've never really used keyboard shortcuts much for text editing

All I really use often is the standard cut, copy, paste, Alt-Tab, etc.

PhiNotPi

@LegionMammal978 7 and a half hours

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

02:36

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan It's normally delete word

@LegionMammal978 I use those and select all/navigate to start/end of word/document

LegionMammal978

Yeah, I can never remember which buttons do which (4 buttons * 2 for Ctrl * 2 for Shift = 16 potential permutations to remember)

wat

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

ctrl+ left/right is navigate word, ctrl + home/end is navigate to start of document, shift if you want to select

@LegionMammal978 ?

LegionMammal978

I clicked on an image in Wikipedia and it logged me out ._.

Dennis

@LeakyNun Since you pinged me about this (for whatever reason), I'll chip in. My answer takes advantage of the fact that the pattern of prime Wednesdays repeats every 28 years, not counting non-leap years that are a multiple of 4. While I would have to add some logic to extend the answer outside the range specified in the question, it could still use the same approach.

In contrast, your answer hardcoded 4 integers (which happen to be the only ones that can be represented by a double-precision float), and there is absolutely no way to extend this approach to arbitrarily large input.

LegionMammal978

^^ and ^

Leaky Nun

02:40

@Dennis Exactly. "not counting non-leap years that are a multiple of 4".

Quill

So I went to a "wildlife and farm"-style theme park with the family today :3

They have goats

Dennis

@LeakyNun That's what the ((y-22)/99-y/2002)*16 takes care of.

Leaky Nun

@Dennis alright.

Why is this a duplicate of this?

Quill

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ whatever could you be talking about

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Quill no idea

LegionMammal978

02:45

@LeakyNun Answers can be reused with little to no modification. (literally the definition of a dupe on this site)

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 Define "little to no".

Dennis

@LeakyNun Presumably because the nth to mth challenge is just up to nth-drop m.

LegionMammal978

^

Leaky Nun

@Dennis and sum

Dennis

And the restriction that / * % may not be used... I really don't know where that comes from. It would be harder if we had to use those operators...

Leaky Nun

02:47

So if I asked them to generate this sequence: oeis.org/A003266

It would be closed as duplicate?

Even if it is another sequence in oeis?

Dennis

I would say no, since there are other ways to calculate the result than multiplying the involved Fibonacci numbers, but others may disagree.

Having an OEIS entry is completely irrelevant.

Leaky Nun

@Dennis eh

LegionMammal978

Well, say you have a Fibonacci function F. Then, the challenge is as simple as taking F (m + 2) - F (n + 1) - 2.

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 what is n and m?

LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun The numbers from the linked question.

Leaky Nun

02:50

@LegionMammal978 oh, I'm talking about oeis.org/A003266 now

Dennis

@LeakyNun completely irrelevant

LegionMammal978

disappears(!?!?) in a puff of HTML tags

Leaky Nun

@Dennis alright

PhiNotPi

@LegionMammal978 <blink>

LegionMammal978

@PhiNotPi CAN'T... STAND... </blink>

Leaky Nun

02:53

@Dennis so... should i post?

Dennis

I'd post it in the sandbox first to see what some of our code-golf-gold-badge users think. It only takes one of them to close the challenge.

DerpfacePython

Is the name "Pyramid" taken as a language?

LegionMammal978

@DerpfacePython There's the Pyramid Web Framework

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LegionMammal978 </marquee>

CMC: find shortest comma-separated list of numbers that yield no entry in OEIS. Tiebreaker is sum of the absolute values of the list.

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

STACK OVERFLOW EXCEPTION: HTML DEPTH AT 18,446,744,073,709,551,615: COLLECTING ERROR LOGS..........SHUTTING DOWN IN (5) MINUTES, PLEASE SAVE ALL WORK

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

03:02

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's easy if no entry means doesn't come up when you search

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Define shortest

LegionMammal978

^

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ One entry, absolute value 192837466: 192837466

Leaky Nun

397,82

absolute value: 479

LegionMammal978

I guess mine is technically shorter in list length

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Define shortest

Helka Homba

03:08

6 hours ago, by Helka Homba

@Optimizer Challenge idea: Draw random non-intersecting line path on blank image. In every step choose a random length from a to b and random angle from c to d respective to the last angle. Draw a black line with that length at that angle stemming from endpoint of last line (or origin if it is first). Exception is that if new line intersects with path, backtrack and retry with new randoms. Repeat until N segments are drawn.

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 979441

LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun 979439

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 604950

@LegionMammal978 336910

@LegionMammal978 285672

LegionMammal978

@LeakyNun 275490

@LeakyNun -97934

I gtg now

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 -64053

@LegionMammal978 -55993

@LegionMammal978 What is your algorithm?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

03:19

Shortest as in length. Its not a difficult concept...

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ length of the list? length of the string representation of the list?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

List

Helka Homba

njohns01home.webfactional.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/… is outdated but may help

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@HelkaHomba That's what I'm using

Leaky Nun

Would anyone care to elaborate what exactly constitutes as a duplicate?

El'endia Starman

03:25

Huzzah, I have my script working with PostgreSQL! Urgh...that took so much work...

Helka Homba

@LeakyNun Urg. Rabbit hole

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Q: Fibonacci-orial

Definition Fibonacci sequence F(n), on the positive integers, are defined as such: 1. F(1) = 1 2. F(2) = 1 3. F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2), where n is an integer and n > 2 The Fibonacci-orial of a positive integer is the product of [F(1), F(2), ..., F(n)]. Task Given positive integer n, find the ...

code-golf arithmetic fibonacci

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

03:38

D: just realized 1 result = sequence with n as sequence number

but: [20819](oeis.org/search?q=20819) is pretty low

Leaky Nun

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ that's exactly why we put the negative sign

Helka Homba

03:56

Finally the livestream

Gigafactory Grand Opening

►

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LeakyNun Changed to automatic search, should give the actual smallest positive value

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ For tiebreaker, does that mean a really large negative number would win?

Leaky Nun

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ absolute.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan What should I do?

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan that closes window

El'endia Starman

Alright, I've figured out how to run arbitrary SQL queries from a file through a user that cannot make any changes to the database!

Tomorrow: online user interface!

Now: bed! :P

DerpfacePython

04:12

I've uploaded Pyramid to Github! Yay!

Is anyone on right now?

Helka Homba

TIL 50 Billion hamsters would fit on the floor of the Gigafactory

DerpfacePython

What is the gigafactory?

Downgoat

@DerpfacePython Tesla's new battery making factory

it's supposed to be pretty big

Helka Homba

Tesla's burgeoning battery factory. Its grand opening is happening right this moment

DerpfacePython

What?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

04:16

@LeakyNun @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 17843

DerpfacePython

Oh yeah, and also @HelkaHomba, you know how I was asking you about how I can make an IDE for SL, right?

I called it Pyramid, and it's on Github now.

Helka Homba

Cool. Link?

DerpfacePython

github.com/DerpfacePython/Pyramid

It's kinda buggy though - might need help with the code.

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Q: C program for even sum

A number is even if it is divisible by 2, but in this case a number is even if the active bits (1s in its binary representation) of a given number are 2. So your task is to find the sum of first N even numbers. Input Format: First line of the input contains an integer T denoting the number of...

binary optimized-output

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@DerpfacePython IDE? Does it have autocomplete? :P

DerpfacePython

04:24

Nope, just a compiler right now.

That's precisely why I said I need help.

TBH, I'm still patching up the compiler.

Downgoat

how is A internally is B to check if A and B refer to same object?

or perhaps A really is B

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat reference comparison?

Downgoat

yeah

is 1 whatever 1 will return false but var a = 1; a whatever a will return true

Leaky Nun

@Downgoat what about A actually is B?

Downgoat

@LeakyNun that's good too

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

04:31

@Downgoat just use JS' ===

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ew no :P

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat I mean for implementation

Downgoat

yeah

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

is/as should be same as C#

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@LeakyNun idk it's up to you. In the future, avoid mixing mandatory features (run-time) with optional features. (Supporting gigantic integers)

Leaky Nun

04:34

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan yes, thanks

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat That should be default equality check behavior btw

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Feel free to ping me if you change the rules to where my answer is valid and I'll undelete.

Which you don't have to do

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ you're saying 1 == 1 should return false????

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ A is B checks if a is instanceof b

as will become alias of ::

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat no, neither of those have a reference

Downgoat

1 as String -> "1"

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

04:36

I think generally challenges with gigantic integers always cause problems like this.

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan question: can i go to end of line in insert mode?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I suppose you could do <C-o>A

Downgoat

i just added:

imap <C-e> <C-o>$

to vimrc

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

That won't work without virtualedit.

Use A instead of $

Downgoat

virtualedit?

works for me?

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan difference?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

04:43

Oh you're right. Nvmd.

I thought <C-o>$ would put you one before the end

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

A same B

@Downgoat

Alternatively, have A isof B for instance checking and have A is B for equality

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ looks weird

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Which? (On mobile rn)

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

A same B

maybe have a __ref__ property?

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ halp how golf:

    return LHS && RHS.WHICH_CLASS ? LHS === RHS.WHICH_CLASS : CheddarError.NO_OP_BEHAVIOR;

Helka Homba

04:56

use if

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Why are you trying to golf production code

Besides, it's probably optimal

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ golfing as in reducing operations/complexity is always a good thing. Making one-char long var names and obfuscation is what yu don't want to do

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

A && B ? A === B : C

Has four operations

A && B && A === B || C

Should also work?

If not, then the current form is optimal

Downgoat

cheddar> 1 actually is 1
false
cheddar> var a = 1
cheddar> a actually is a
true

\o/ \o/ \o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

No offense but that's ugly af

Downgoat

05:03

;_;

alternative suggestion?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Scroll up

Downgoat

A same A is not valid english :S

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Anything but an operator composed of multiple words

Downgoat

too late what is A is already a thing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Tell me a -> a * 3 Is valid English :p

Oh heavens why

Too make the what is love joke

*to

Downgoat

05:07

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :|

and to avoid word mashups

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Whatevs

Downgoat

i don't think it's that bad

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Just my two cents :p

Downgoat

you're not going to use actually is and what is very often.

They are more of reflection ops. not too important

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What if I have a variable named what? And I want to see if it's an instance of something

Downgoat

05:09

what is reserved

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

😶

Downgoat

?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But why

Downgoat

what is so bad anout that

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Nothing objectively

I just think it looks weird/bad/alien

I'd much rather use whats than what is

Downgoat

05:12

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :(

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But if you want to avoid word mashups, that's fine

It's incredible that the parser supports them, anyhow .-.

What does the what is operator say

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ meaning?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

*do

Downgoat

returns the constructor

what is 1 -> Number

btw adjusted coverage testing so now you should start seeing green checkmarks next to commits again! \o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yay!

Btw let's take to cheddar room

New Meta Posts

05:16

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Q: Computability of esolangs

Are there any esoteric programming languages whose computability have not yet been well-classified? For instance, languages which are not yet known to be Turing-complete.

discussion

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ good idea

Quill

05:56

@NewMetaPosts ....wat?

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