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Do X without Y again! Here is an X done with Y: YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYYYYYY YYYYYY YYYYYY YYYYYYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY YYYY As you can see, there are 92 Ys in this ...

zyabin101

Challenge idea: format test cases for a challenge.

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 testcases please

TùxCräftîñg

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A: Things to avoid when writing challenges

Exclamation marks in titles! Quite a lot of questions have exclamation marks at the end of their titles! To me this just seems like a vain attempt to attract more attention with the hope of getting more upvotes! I don't think I've ever seen a challenge with an exclamation mark in the title wher...

Best post ever!

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg D'accord!!

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Q: Draw a Fibonacci Network!

What are Fibonacci networks? In 1202, an Italian mathematician known as Fibonacci posed the following problem: "A male and a female rabbit are born at the beginning of the year. We assume the following conditions: 1.After reaching the age of two months, each pair produces a mixed p...

zyabin101

13:31

@LeakyNun bpaste.net/show/8807f05b3d90

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 jmj" => "`M

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 lambda l:list(map(lambda x:print(x[0],"=>",x[1]),l)) print to stdout and return junk

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg why?

TùxCräftîñg

why what?

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg why print to stdout and return junk?

TùxCräftîñg

13:38

because i think printing to stdout is shorter

and this return a list of None

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

CMC: Write a program that generates a random CMC.

Leaky Nun

I don't think so

zyabin101

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Test cases please

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun lambda l:"\n".join(map(lambda x:"%s => %s"%(x[0],x[1]),l)) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Uh, there's no input, so I don't see how test cases are applicable

Leaky Nun

13:39

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Generated by dice-roll, guaranteed to be random

TùxCräftîñg

.____________.

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg What about " => ".join?

TùxCräftîñg

>>> f=lambda l:"\n".join(map(lambda x:" => ".join(x),l))
>>> f([[1, "1"], [10, "A"], [16, "10"]])
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <lambda>
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <lambda>
TypeError: sequence item 0: expected str instance, int found

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@LeakyNun CMC: 4

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Pyth, 19 bytes: L&>b1hy.lb)y3814280

TùxCräftîñg

13:41

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Jelly, 1 byte 4

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg lambda l:"\n".join(map(" => ".join,(map(str,x)),l))

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun outgolfed by jelly

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg let's generate 4 in interesting langauges

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun dont work

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@LeakyNun that's one of the most ungolfy pyth answers I've ever seen.

Leaky Nun

13:43

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Brainfuck, 14 bytes: -[>+<-----]>+.

TùxCräftîñg

brainfuck is shorter than pyth?

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan That's the super-logarithm of 3814280

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

brain-flak.tryitonline.net/#code=KCgpKCkpKCh7fSl7fSk&input=

Leaky Nun

0000000: 2839                                              (9

Size   : 2 byte(s)

sesos.tryitonline.net/…

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan outgolfed

rekt

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Actually, (()()()()) is shorter but less interesting.

Leaky Nun

13:45

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan try to do the square root of 16

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

In brain-flak? No thanks

That'll probably be like 400 bytes.

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan no shit sherlock

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

The shortest integer division program is over 1000.

Leaky Nun

just square root of perfect squares

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Still.... pass

Leaky Nun

13:47

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan alright

TùxCräftîñg

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan nope, 10: brain-flak.tryitonline.net/#code=KCgpKCkoKSgpKQ&input=

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Boring.

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg ninja'd

3 mins ago, by Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan outgolfed

TùxCräftîñg

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan it process the square root of 16 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@TùxCräftîñg Think you could write multiplication without referring to the existing multiplication program on the github page?

You should try it

Leaky Nun

13:51

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan By the way, the number of valid programs of length 2n is A000108(n)×A000302(n).

TùxCräftîñg

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan seem as easy as BF

if not more

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan (<>)<>({}<>[()])<>{({}[()])<>(({}))<>}<>{({}<>{})<>}<>

Promise I didn't look

wow, it's so much longer than the existing program

Golfed 6 bytes: ({}<>[()])<>{({}[()])<>(({}))<>}<>{({}<>{})<>}<>

TùxCräftîñg

huh nvm

this language COME FROM hell

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan By the way, the last 6 bytes in the program in Github is useless

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Pops the other stack and returns.

@LeakyNun depends. If you just want to multiply, then yes, but if you want multiply without side-effects (add part of a larger program) then they're not.

Leaky Nun

14:03

> Here are some full programs that do interesting things.

trichoplax

This seems like it has at least one golf/fastest-code opportunity in it:

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Q: The Knight and the Maze 2

I've decided to make another knight and maze puzzle. I felt like I rushed the last one here because I thought of the idea right before the end of maze fortnight and wanted to submit something in time. This time I've put a bit more effort in order to try and make the maze a bit more difficult. I...

mazes knight-moves

Martin Ender

There's this really great joke about non-constructive proofs.

Tweeted by qntm on July 29, 2016 at 12:21 AM

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PhiNotPi

Is there a such thing as a destructive proof?

Leaky Nun

@PhiNotPi no, but there are non-constructive proofs

El'endia Starman

@flawr PostgreSQL database of The Nineteenth Byte messages. I want to expand to other rooms eventually, but I'd have to figure out something like SEDE's site selector.

Leaky Nun

14:11

@Poke Actually, I think "conjugation" is when you change a word according to the subject, while "declension" is when you change a word according to its role in the sentence.

And in most of the languages, verbs change according to the subject while nouns and adjectives change according to their role in the sentence, which is why "conjugation" usually refers to verbs and "declension" usually refers to nouns/adjectives.

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman I feel like it might be a bad idea to give most 19th byte messages... more of an internet presence than they already have.

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

Declension is typically for nouns (and adjectives) based on subject/object type

Conjugation applies to verbs based on the subject and tense.

Leaky Nun

@hexafraction For example, in Korean, you actually conjugate an adjective.

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

Is that a terminology difference, or an actual fundamental difference in grammatical structure?

Leaky Nun

@hexafraction scroll up

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

14:13

How far?

Leaky Nun

2 mins ago, by Leaky Nun

@Poke Actually, I think "conjugation" is when you change a word according to the subject, while "declension" is when you change a word according to its role in the sentence.

1 min ago, by Leaky Nun

And in most of the languages, verbs change according to the subject while nouns and adjectives change according to their role in the sentence, which is why "conjugation" usually refers to verbs and "declension" usually refers to nouns/adjectives.

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

So the adjective changes based on subject? Is that only if that adjective directly modifies that subject?

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Why's that? It's all public.

Leaky Nun

@hexafraction In Korean, you don't conjugate based on the person (first-person etc), but instead you conjugate based on the rank of the person (informal casual vs informal polite vs formal polite)

trichoplax

It's protected by a difficult to use search tool

El'endia Starman

14:15

And there's a search functionality already. (Which, admittedly, isn't as powerful as SQL.)

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman It's called "saving face through obscurity"

Leaky Nun

@hexafraction and it's so complicated that I would be lying if I said I understand it fully.

$hexafraction$

hexafraction

Ah.

Leaky Nun

mınxomaτ

Yeah, no.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

14:17

@MartinEnder I love this room so much. If I were to tell that joke with one my friends IRL, nobody would appreciate it.

This whole room is the epitome of nerdy, and it's beautiful.

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mınxomaτ

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A: Did Einstein say "if you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough"?

The quote "An alleged scientific discovery has no merit unless it can be explained to a barmaid." is popularly attributed to Lord Rutherford of Nelson in as stated in Einstein, the Man and His Achievement By G. J. Whitrow, Dover Press 1973. Einstein is unlikely to have said it since his theory o...

Leaky Nun

@mınxomaτ You must be fun at parties

in Mathematics, 1 min ago, by Leaky Nun

People

in Mathematics, 1 min ago, by Leaky Nun

what is the name of this theorem?

in Mathematics, 1 min ago, by Leaky Nun

$\dbinom{kp}{p}\equiv k\mbox{ (mod }p^3\mbox{)}$

trichoplax

That sort of attention to detail makes a party more fun from my point of view

Leaky Nun

in Mathematics, 59 secs ago, by Leaky Nun

I may have recalled it incorrectly

Dennis

@LuisMendo Done.

Leaky Nun

14:20

@Dennis PR sesos

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Would it help if it were password protected?

trichoplax

I love this from the linked question: As Einstein himself once said, "73% of Einstein quotes are misattributed."

Dennis

@LeakyNun Yes, I saw. Still have to test it and figure out a way not to break existing Sesos answers...

Leaky Nun

@Dennis Eh, I tested it a bit, though it may still have other bugs

@Dennis just declare it as v.2

trichoplax

Back compatibility is for other people

PhiNotPi

14:32

@El'endiaStarman It probably doesn't matter too much.

TùxCräftîñg

i am trying to create a lambda calculus esolang with a malbolge-like encoder

Martin Ender

we will pray for your soul.

zyabin101

@MartinEnder For which soul? XD

TùxCräftîñg

the implementation is easy...

but printing a letter is impossible

also the language is called Hellambda

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Whether it's password protected, or the issue of making the contents of TNB more accessible?

Martin Ender

14:39

@TùxCräftîñg I first thought this was some sort of portmanteau of Helka Homba

TùxCräftîñg

>_>

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman Probably both.

TùxCräftîñg

the only way i see to write a letter is ugly bruteforcing ._.

El'endia Starman

@TùxCräftîñg Isn't that how people wrote letters in the days before computers?

TùxCräftîñg

._.

El'endia Starman

14:42

Seriously though, I thought Malbolge programs were essentially found by brute-forcing.

TùxCräftîñg

yes but here the encoder is a 2-state automaton that bitshift and invert

user214599

Hey guys

PhiNotPi

In unrelated news, I did in fact upgrade to Win10 last night, mere hours before the deadline.

user214599

Especially @Tux

TùxCräftîñg

?

user214599

14:45

I found this on Wolfram Alpha:

user214599

:O

user214599

@Tux ^^

TùxCräftîñg

cool

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi How do you like it so far?

LegionMammal978

14:46

^

El'endia Starman

(Also, right-click on the Start button!)

LegionMammal978

@El'endiaStarman What does it do? I have Win10 but never tried that

El'endia Starman

@LegionMammal978 .....TRY IT RIGHT NOW.

user214599

I like the fact I do not need to install ubuntu to get the cool bash thing. because microsoft bashed bash into Win10

PhiNotPi

It seems pretty decent. I spent some time messing around with all the settings (disabling ad tracking, etc.).

user214599

14:51

Oh wait I found this right now

user214599

google.com/maps/d/…

zyabin101

@El'endiaStarman What does it do? :D

user214599

@zyabin101 JUST! DO IT!! YES YOU CAN!!

user214599

;_; I don't have cortana since I am in korea

zyabin101

@MatthewRoh I don't have Windows 10 D:

El'endia Starman

14:52

zyabin101

\o/

TùxCräftîñg

trying to bruteforc a program to write H

user214599

@El'endiaStarman It was there since Win8

El'endia Starman

That's perhaps one of the most useful things for me in Win 10. Quick and easy access to all the useful stuff.

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman How do you not have the search bar on the bottom?

user214599

14:54

@PhiNotPi He have hidden it

PhiNotPi

(It takes up a bunch of screen space and I want to get rid of it). Edit: fixed it

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Right-click task bar > Search > Hidden

TùxCräftîñg

i have removed it but i dont remebember how ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

user214599

@El'endiaStarman Or "Show icon"

zyabin101

@MatthewRoh It keeps the icon.

I think.

El'endia Starman

14:56

I prefer to just hit the Windows key and start typing for search. No search icon needed.

user214599

@TùxCräftîñg TaxCrufting removed it when you were not home

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

Leaky Nun

0

Q: Verify Wolstenholme's theorem

Definition Wolstenholme's theorem states that: where a and b are positive integers and p is prime. Task To verify that, you will be given three inputs: a, b, p, where a and b are positive integers and p is prime. Compute: Specs Since: You can assume that 2b <= a Testcases a b p ...

code-golf number-theory combinatorics

TùxCräftîñg

lambda x: lambda y: lambda z: z(y)(x)

this is the S combinator, right?

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Q: Verify Wolstenholme's theorem

Definition Wolstenholme's theorem states that: where a and b are positive integers and p is prime. Task To verify that, you will be given three inputs: a, b, p, where a and b are positive integers and p is prime. Compute: Specs Since: You can assume that 2b <= a Testcases a b p ...

code-golf number-theory combinatorics

TùxCräftîñg

15:03

@NewMainPosts ninja'd

Zgarb

No, you need z(y(x))(x) IIRC

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Thank you! And good morning!

zyabin101

github.com/catseye/NaNoGenLab/blob/master/generic-corpora/…

Leaky Nun

@Zgarb Ah, you're here

TùxCräftîñg

wikipedia says

Sxyz = xz(yz)

zyabin101

15:04

^^^^ Adventures of a cat napping on a laptop.

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg Can't you use λ?

Zgarb

@TùxCräftîñg Oh ok, I was wrong then

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun i am using python

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg then use coconut

Zgarb

@LeakyNun Sporadically, yes.

Leaky Nun

15:05

@Zgarb alright

TùxCräftîñg

for now the code of the interpreter and the bruteforcer

import random, sys

class Hellambda:
        def __init__(self, code):
                self.state = 0
                self.code = list(map(ord, code))
                self.i = 0
        def next(self):
                c = self.code[self.i]
                self.i += 1
                return c
        def hell(self):
                if self.state == 0:
                        self.code[self.i - 1] >>= 2
                        self.code[self.i - 1] ^= 0xFF
                else:
                        self.code[self.i - 1] <<= 1

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg Firstly you have to make anything callable

TùxCräftîñg

?

Leaky Nun

because IIRC in lambda calculus, 1 2 evaulates to 1

it is effectively 1(2)

where 1 is a constant function

TùxCräftîñg

so

if c == 1:
                        self.i += 1
                        self.hell()
                        self.i -= 1
                        c = self.next()
                        def f(x):
                                print(c, end="")

is better

also it print less garbage in my console.

user214599

15:11

I'm making a challenge about (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

Martin Ender

Procedural generation from a single example by wave function collapse (soon on github). https://t.co/m6mte3Qq9k

Tweeted by ExUtumno on July 29, 2016 at 4:16 PM

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TùxCräftîñg

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

user214599

What happens if the guy flipped the flipped table?

TùxCräftîñg

@MatthewRoh the universe would collapse

user214599

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡=============
^ Firing lasers with a flip of a hand

Leaky Nun

15:16

@MatthewRoh naemunjereul hasipsio

hasipsiyo*

user214599

@Tux How to go to space: attempt to flip yourself

user214599

@Leaky Nope, I can't understand it

user214599

@R.K Hi

user214599

@Downgoat BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Leaky Nun

@MatthewRoh 내문제를 하십시요

TùxCräftîñg

15:20

@Downgoat baaaaaa baaaaaa bleet

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Binomial Coefficient mathcode-golf I didn't find this challenge before but I can't really believe that it hasn't already been posted: Given two nonnegative integers n,k, return the binomial coefficient c(n,k).

TùxCräftîñg

github.com/tuxcrafting/hellambda

just look at the commit message

seriously if someone write a hello world program he is the king of the world

brb (60% of chance this mean in a long time)

quartata

@MartinEnder Niiice

Sherlock9

@Doorknob I have thing to report about your fine black theme for SE. LaTeX looks like carp at the moment. Aliasing all over the place.

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 do my challenge

Sherlock9

15:28

Was looking at it

That's where I saw the LaTeX problem

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 ?

Sherlock9

Doorknob has this custom dark theme for SE

I have been using it

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 lol

Sherlock9

It's not complete yet. I was filing a bug report about how it and LaTeX do not currently mix

@LeakyNun CSS theme, you goof :P

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 just do it already

Sherlock9

15:31

I keep replying to you! Let me read :P

user214599

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Q: Flip a string, not a table

There is a popular Text face meme in the internet. it is (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ The guy changed his mind, he decided not to flip a table, but a string. (idk why, meh) (the fun thing is: the string could be the table itself) Specs The Inputted text will only have characters included in the chart Exam...

code-golf string

user214599

My finished challenge :)

Martin Ender

@MatthewRoh Doesn't the headline "Examples" imply plural? :)

El'endia Starman

@MartinEnder Woooaaahhh....how does this work?!

Martin Ender

@El'endiaStarman no clue. I guess we'll have to monitor that twitter account for the release on github :D

(or the github account)

El'endia Starman

15:36

@MartinEnder I'll be waiting for a blog post. I don't really like learning about algorithms from code...

Martin Ender

well I'm hoping there'll be some info in the readme or whatever

Sherlock9

It looks kind of like a procedural room generator. Like a roguelike game would have

Ah, it is a procedural generator. Should read the tweet as well as watch the video :D

quartata

In a reply tweet he mentioned this:

Belief propagation

Belief propagation, also known as sum-product message passing, is a message passing algorithm for performing inference on graphical models, such as Bayesian networks and Markov random fields. It calculates the marginal distribution for each unobserved node, conditional on any observed nodes. Belief propagation is commonly used in artificial intelligence and information theory and has demonstrated empirical success in numerous applications including low-density parity-check codes, turbo codes, free energy approximation, and satisfiability. The algorithm was first proposed by Judea Pearl in 1982...

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 Do you want to share something with the Remaining Bytes, I'm waiting >_>

Sherlock9

Not at the moment, sorry

Trying to work on golfing answers for Leaky Nun's question

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

15:46

what is that wizardry generation machine

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala what?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Procedural generation from a single example by wave function collapse (soon on github). https://t.co/m6mte3Qq9k

Tweeted by ExUtumno on July 29, 2016 at 4:16 PM

its magical

Sherlock9

@MartinEnder @El'endiaStarman Found the GitHub release: github.com/mxgmn/ConvChain

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Leaky Nun, are you the one with the 500 rep bounty?

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala yes

Sherlock9

15:47

Or one of them, anyway

Martin Ender

@Sherlock9 I don't think that's the same thing

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Leaky Nun are multiple languages being uused in one submission ok?

Martin Ender

the tweet is from yesterday

Sherlock9

Ah, perhaps not

Martin Ender

that github repo is a few months old

Leaky Nun

15:47

@RohanJhunjhunwala why would you need to have multiple languages in one submission when you can submit many times?

Martin Ender

the tweet might be an upcoming update of that repo though

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Leaky Nun the 16 logic gate question

quartata

@LeakyNun He means for the logic gate question

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

like does each function have to be the same language

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala of course

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

15:48

I figured xD

Leaky Nun

why isn't this meta'd already

quartata

Because your question is unique in that regard?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

I was going to use a null submission in C or Javascript for the false question and a Stuck submission for true (empty gprogram prints Hello, World!!)

Martin Ender

because technically your challenge is a multi-part challenge is only borderline acceptable by meta consensus

(and that problem only comes up for multi-part challenge)

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

That would have given me 16 bytes for 14 gates :)

Leaky Nun

15:50

@MartinEnder never mind, ich hab' nichts gesagt

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

and then I could put a cat program in the "cat" languae for the or part (empty program 0 bytes)

16 bytes for 13 gates, and just rob parts of the APL answer xD

:( too bad the loophole is closed

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala why use a loophole knowing that it is a loophole?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Leaky Nun idk, thats why I waited to ask you.

it was worth a shot for even the 1% chance that it was allowed

Sherlock9

@zyabin101 Actually, TRB may work better less as a second chat, and more as a place where PPCG people can share stuff they may not want on the public transcript. Shareable links to Dropbox/Google Drive, their email addresses and so on

Just a thought

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

oh crap xD

i posted a link to g drive on some chat xD

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15:55

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Q: Print a Tabula Recta!

Print a Tabula Recta! The Tabula Recta (sometimes called a 'Vigenere Table'), was created by Johannes Trithemius, and has been used in several ciphers, including all variants of Bellaso's Vigenere cipher and the Trithemius cipher. It looks like this: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQR...

code-golf kolmogorov-complexity cryptography

Sherlock9

@RohanJhunjhunwala Well, as long as that link doesn't go to some sensitive information or something, it should be okay

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 You may share that thought on TRB :3

Sherlock9

Will do

Oh hey guys

I was thinking of making a Gmail account that you guys can send stuff to without my divulging my personal email address

ppcg.sherlock9, ppcgsherlock9, sherlock9.ppcg, or sherlock9ppcg?

Should I make a strawpoll?

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 Sherlock9SE.

Sherlock9

strawpoll.me/10871381

George Gibson

16:01

Sherlock9PPCG

Is winning.

86%

Sherlock9

I should have also put in an "Other" option

Ah well

[email protected] it is

I like the "." as a separator

mınxomaτ

@Sherlock9 slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/08/01/…

Couldn't resist.

TL;DR: GMail is dot-insensitive.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Sherlock9 I actually just recently did the same thing.

LegionMammal978

Some browser ideas:
Google Firefox
Google Explorer
Mozilla Chrome
Mozilla Explorer
Microsoft Chrome
Microsoft Firefox

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Mozilla Chrome sounds awesome

LegionMammal978

16:15

^

Sherlock9

@mınxomaτ Right, but I like the dot for aesthetic reasons

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 Are you going to share the thought on TRB? :3

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@mınxomaτ huh interesting. My personal email has a dot, and now I feel like an idiot.

Sherlock9

Yeah, I was fiddling with Google at the time, but I can do it now

TùxCräftîñg

back

halpmyspacebaris borked

wtf this work some times but other times this dont work

nobody have tried programming in hellambda?

zyabin101

16:28

@TùxCräftîñg How to run it?

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 clone it and run python hellambda.py mycoolfile.hlb

Leaky Nun

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A: Print a Tabula Recta!

J, 15 bytes u:65+26|+/~i.26 Online interpreter. u:65+26|+/~i.26 i.26 creates vector [0 1 2 ... 25] +/~ builds an addition table with itself 26| modulo 26 to every element 65+ add 65 to every element u: convert every element from...

no love for J

zyabin101

@LeakyNun s/no/some/ :D

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun upvote for you

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 благодаря

@TùxCräftîñg merci

TùxCräftîñg

16:32

if anyone is ~~masochist~~ interested here is my new esolang: github.com/tuxcrafting/hellambda

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg example program please

TùxCräftîñg

@LeakyNun its a joke?

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg ??

TùxCräftîñg

just look at the function hell in hellambda.py

Leaky Nun

@TùxCräftîñg I don't get it

TùxCräftîñg

16:37

the encoder is a finite state automaton playing with bitshift and xors

Sherlock9

Tux made a language that is like Malbolge meets lambda calculus

3

I don't believe example programs will be ready any time soon

George Gibson

strawpoll.me/10871656 Should I be more active on PPCG?

Dennis

@LeakyNun Why did you edit your challenge to invalidate answers? There doesn't seem to be a good reason for it...

(Unless I'm missing something.)

Leaky Nun

@Dennis The story is too long

George Gibson

How can Weasel be winning?

Leaky Nun

16:50

forgive me for concealing

Wait, suddenly we can use lowercase instead of uppercase.

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg How the hellifying works?

Leaky Nun

which means... golfing!!

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@GeorgeGibson the answer to that question is always yes

Leaky Nun

Can we use lowercase instead of uppercase? — muddyfish 10 mins ago

@muddyfish Yeah, I guess so. — George Gibson 6 mins ago

zyabin101

(Decoding the program)

Adnan

16:51

@Dennis Which challenge?

Leaky Nun

@Adnan fibonacci-orial

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 it's a 2 state automaton: state 1, the current cell is rightshifted by 2 and inverted and switch to state 2, state 2, the current cell is left-shifted by 1 and inverted and switch to state 1

Adnan

What was the change?

Leaky Nun

@Adnan I originally said programs can overflow

now I said they can't

Adnan

normally, we allow overflow for languages such as javascript

Leaky Nun

16:53

@Adnan not when we need to time it

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg And when that happens?

TùxCräftîñg

@zyabin101 after executing a command

Adnan

I also don't see why you would need a time restriction on that

There aren't really a lot of approaches for that challenge, so it just mostly depends on the language you choose

Leaky Nun

@Adnan to avoid exponential recursion

Adnan

i like recursion

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