The Nineteenth Byte

Maltysen

6:00 PM

@Downgoat none of them make sense but ^^^ is the best

Anonymous

Nah, he needs to reserve -> for the best language feature of all

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat It should be "foo = lambda arg1, arg2: arg1 + arg2" :P

quartata

Oh, I didn't notice foo = (arg1, arg2) => arg1 + arg2

That's all right I suppose

Downgoat

@Maltysen if non of them make sense then what should it be?

Business Cat

I get the sense that Mego hates C

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

6:00 PM

So basically, none of these make sense at all.

Downgoat

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 ಠ_________________________________________________ಠ

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

:P

Downgoat

that is disgusting

brb flagging as offensive

Anonymous

@BusinessCat Can't imagine why you would think that

TùxCräftîñg

.___. i have missclick i have voted for foo = (x, y) => x + y .____.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:00 PM

@BusinessCat We all hate a lot of things

Maltysen

@Downgoat i'm just saying that the whitespace ones make no sense at all, and neither do the = ones

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat Please don't have fun with flags.

Maltysen

and for some reason you have none without either

Anonymous

@TùxCräftîñg No see there you voted correctly

Downgoat

@Maltysen sorry, what?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:01 PM

I like => because it looks nicer in my text editor >_>

Downgoat

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 i was joking

Anonymous

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I'm one of the biggest fans of Python and even I'll admit that Python's lambda syntax is ugly

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Downgoat Ah k :)

TùxCräftîñg

Python lambdas is shit. Really.

orlp

11

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

6:02 PM

I was joking, too.

Anonymous

@orlp I too browse /r/programminghorror

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@orlp oh my sweet lord

orlp

@Mego not from there

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg s/lambdas are/is/

Maltysen

@Downgoat half of them are (args) <space> expr which doesn't make sense, and the other half are foo = something, which is stupid. there aren't any options without either

quartata

6:03 PM

@Mego I like it actually. Reminds me of Scheme's syntax

Downgoat

pls halp i hav no idea what's happening anymore:

=== TEST CASE 1: -> (a = "default", b?) { 1 + 1 } ===
[Function: CheddarLexer]
CheddarFunctionToken {
  Code: '-> (a = "default", b?) { 1 + 1 }',
  Index: 0,
  _Tokens: [] }
=== OUTPUT START === 0
->
[ CheddarLexer {
    Code: undefined,
    Index: undefined,
    _Tokens: [],
    exec: [Function] } ]
[Function: CheddarTypedVariableToken]
[ [ [Function: CheddarLiteral], ':' ] ]
[Function: CheddarLiteral]
:
[Function: CheddarVariableToken]
[ '?' ]
[ [ '=', [Function: CheddarExpressionToken] ] ]
[Function: CheddarTypedVariableToken]

TùxCräftîñg

._________________________. tl; dr

Downgoat

@Maltysen whitespace is not needed. the foo = is not part of the lambda syntax

@TùxCräftîñg same

Anonymous

@orlp I remember seeing that on one of the bad code subreddits. At this point they all blend together.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

what would you suggest?

Maltysen

6:04 PM

@Downgoat ohhhhhhh

in that case foo = (arg1, arg2) -> arg1 + arg2

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman i dunno if I asked this before but what grammar parser generator thing are you using for pytek?

@Maltysen ok

TùxCräftîñg

THIS is the new disaproving look: 흫_흫

Maltysen

es6 syntax

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_O

TùxCräftîñg

@Downgoat i think homemade parsers are the best

Downgoat

6:05 PM

@TùxCräftîñg no they are not

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

5 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

chat mini challenge: given two numbers M and N, find the smallest number K > 0 such that KM and KN are integers

Downgoat

they are nightmares

source

TùxCräftîñg

no, homemade parsers are life

Maltysen

@TùxCräftîñg its even better if they are soft baked

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg then pls tell me how to decode this else I'm dead

mınxomaτ

6:05 PM

@TùxCräftîñg They are if you're doing it right :-)

TùxCräftîñg

@Downgoat ._______________. even Superman cannot read this

Downgoat

;_;

orlp

don't mind me

just buying spices and... drain cleaner?

TùxCräftîñg

.________________________.

mınxomaτ

@TùxCräftîñg Except people who can read Korean are likely going to be confused by this.

TùxCräftîñg

6:08 PM

@mınxomaτ gmg_gmg

FryAmTheEggman

^^ s/ who.*Korean//

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Actually, 14 bytes: ╗2`╜*;♂≈=`╓d@X

mınxomaτ

4

Downgoat

@mınxomaτ and kanarese will be confused by ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ I love lemon-scented carcinogenic pancakes!

mınxomaτ

6:09 PM

@Downgoat Though much less likely.

Maltysen

@Mego and it won't even be non-stick!

mınxomaτ

@Mego Some men just want to watch the world choke on their breakfast.

TùxCräftîñg

and undefined will be confused by 句_句

mınxomaτ

At least my furniture isn't sticky anymore.

Anonymous

Less ugly, still 14 bytes: ╗1`u╜*;♂≈=`╓iu

TùxCräftîñg

6:11 PM

xahlee.info/comp/unicode_common_symbols.html and paste 句 in the unicode search ._.

orlp

why use a calender

FryAmTheEggman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Pyth: f*FmsI*dTQ barring FP inaccuracy

orlp

if you could use a bar graph?

Maltysen

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ f*FmsI*TdQ

TùxCräftîñg

.__________________________________________________________________________________________.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:12 PM

I think you just got ninja'd

Maltysen

._. shit

Downgoat

OH MY GOD YES IT WORKED

=== TEST CASE 1: (a = "default", b?) -> { 1 + 1 } ===
[Function: CheddarLexer]
CheddarFunctionToken {
  Code: '(a = "default", b?) -> { 1 + 1 }',
  Index: 0,
  _Tokens: [] }
=== OUTPUT START === 0
=== OUTPUT LOG ===
CheddarFunctionToken {
  Code: '(a = "default", b?) -> { 1 + 1 }',
  Index: 32,
  _Tokens:
   [ CheddarArrayToken {
       Code: '(a = "default", b?) -> { 1 + 1 }',
       Index: 19,
       _Tokens:
        [ CheddarArgumentToken {
            Code: '(a = "default", b?) -> { 1 + 1 }',

TùxCräftîñg

@Downgoat O_O

Business Cat

@orlp And not even sort the states in any logical way

Downgoat

\o/ \o /\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/

TùxCräftîñg

6:13 PM

s/\o //\o//

흫_흫

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego @FryAmTheEggman How do these work? :3

Anonymous

There is a Comic Sans monospace font. Sort of https://github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans http://t.co/Gk1X1WeNMa

Tweeted by codinghorror on May 10, 2015 at 12:05 AM

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ First value starting from 0 where [(k+1)*m,(k+1)*n]==[int((k+1)*m),int((k+1)*n)], plus 1

Maltysen

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ filters from 1..∞ for something such that both of the input is invariant under flooring when multiplied by the iter var.

Helka Homba

Backyard aspirations: strawpoll.me/10690070

Anonymous

6:16 PM

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego @Malty nice and nice

TùxCräftîñg

@HelkaHomba a dirt bike course, obviously

Anonymous

I like how the requisite backyard sizes for the options range from "moderate suburban" to "I own 3 acres of land"

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba pls add option for goat barn

Maltysen

@Mego and the gardens can probably be done with just a balcony

@Downgoat wouldn't that be your house? :P

Anonymous

6:19 PM

@Downgoat That would be a baaaaad idea

3

Downgoat

@Maltysen exactly, who wouldn't want two homes

TùxCräftîñg

strawpoll.me/10690120

Helka Homba

@Downgoat Option 7: tin can grazing area

quartata

@HelkaHomba I would grow carnivorous plants if they would grow here

I'll just have to settle for reading tons of books about them I suppose

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba that sounds cool

Anonymous

6:22 PM

@TùxCräftîñg Please don't spam

Downgoat

^

TùxCräftîñg

.________________________.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I wouldn't quite call that spamming.

Sherlock9

More like grasping at strawpolls

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ahahaha

TùxCräftîñg

6:23 PM

for now it's a ~~pie~~ tie

Downgoat

@Mego ;_; y u haet gaot sheltr

chat.stackexchange.com/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TùxCräftîñg ---pie---

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg 10/10 goats

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

nope

TùxCräftîñg

~~(removed)~~

LegionMammal978

6:25 PM

@Mego So basically the Ubuntu Monospace font?

(demoved)

TùxCräftîñg

@Downgoat y u are the only who use y u with Upgoat ._.

Sherlock9

@orlp So, uh, this is incredibly bad, but how would you make it less so? I haven't worked with dropdowns before and now seems as good a time as any to learn

Downgoat

@TùxCräftîñg i am upgaot

and that was a filtr

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@TùxCräftîñg it was removed

orlp

@Sherlock9 don't use a dropdown

it's called numbers on you keyboard + a textfield

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

6:27 PM

This (removed) thing might become a meme

Sherlock9

Duly noted o7

TùxCräftîñg

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC (removed)

Downgoat

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC can't, memes have been killed by mods

Sherlock9

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Nah, they (removed) that meme already

orlp

waterslides are fun for the whole family

FUCK OFF REDDIT IMAGES NO ONEBOX ARGHHHHH

Downgoat

6:29 PM

@orlp is this supposed to be a gif?

@orlp ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

if I display rationals as NrD, what should imaginary look like? ArB + CrDi, or ArB + CrD * i

LegionMammal978

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ArB + CirD ;)

FryAmTheEggman

^^ Might be worth considering j, i is pretty overloaded in CS and related fields.

TùxCräftîñg

now this allow more trolling: strawpoll.me/10690250

Downgoat

TIL you should compile your code before testing >_>

@TùxCräftîñg please stop spamming

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:33 PM

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@FryAmTheEggman I've heard that, but idk how it is overloaded

should I do it like J, and have ArBjCrD? (J doesn't actually allow extended irrational numbers)

FryAmTheEggman

i is commonly used in loop counters (esp. matrices) (although j isn't much less common here) but it is also used for things like identity vectors and current, moment of inertia, etc

Downgoat

Should function defaults be evaluated at initialization or when run

FryAmTheEggman

I don't really know what format I would prefer since I don't really know the whole paradigm of your language, but anything clear (like that is) is fine

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm writing a library for javascript

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what's new?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:38 PM

working on a stringifying function

@Downgoat what's new about it? or "what else is knew"

Downgoat

what does it stringify?

FryAmTheEggman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Then I'd use whatever javascript usually uses with as little modification as possible.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@FryAmTheEggman javascript doesn't have irrational numbers or extended integers.

@Downgoat extended irrational integer

FryAmTheEggman

I thought you meant for the complex variable? (Unless it doesn't have that, too)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

nope, not that either.

just floats.

FryAmTheEggman

6:42 PM

Then I'd personally use the notation with an explicit + as I'd say it's easier to read, and I would prefer j but I think at that point it's mostly opinion :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

alright, sounds good.

So something like CrDj wouldn't be unreadable?

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FryAmTheEggman

No, but I would personally use something other than r, like / or rational(C, D) j

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hmm, good point

FryAmTheEggman

Actually in the second example I think I'd prefer if the j were with the C, same with negatives, etc

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:46 PM

Like Cj/D?

FryAmTheEggman

No I meant the one with rational like: rational(-Cj, D)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, I see

Maltysen

would that automatically rationalize the denominator?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Yes, you've asked that before. :P I don't use a grammar per se; I define the language elements in a different way.

Maltysen

like rational(1,2)/raitonal(j,1)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:47 PM

I haven't figured that part out yet.

TùxCräftîñg

i want to create a Shwa keyboard layout but MSKLC is broken .___.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

should 5/1 be displayed as 5?

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman so you're not using a LALR?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg You can't create a Shwa keyboard layout.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

E.g., 7/2 + 5/1j or 7/2 + 5j

FryAmTheEggman

6:50 PM

Not if rational types are meaningfully different from integer types.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

You need a special keyboard for that.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@FryAmTheEggman nope. it's just a way of displaying. I can display it as a decimal number (so with a decimal point + trailing things) or as a rational.

FryAmTheEggman

Also note 5/1j == -5j/1 != (5/1)j

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh true. that needs to be fixed

Downgoat

cheddar> (a,b)->a+b
< Unprintable object of class "CheddarFunction" with literal value undefined >

oh my god yes

TùxCräftîñg

6:52 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 a standard keyboard have 104 keys, with the alt-gr and shift modifiers the number of typable characters is INSANE

Anonymous

@Downgoat That's some description gore there

TùxCräftîñg

312 exactly

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

JNum.of(3.5, 5)
7/2 + 5j/1 // rational
3.5 + 5j   // decimal

TùxCräftîñg

and with dead keys...

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@TùxCräftîñg You need to map the 6 x 4 or 12 x 4 keys to the standard keyboard.

TùxCräftîñg

6:54 PM

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 48 keys ? easy.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Also, the keyboard must be special.

TùxCräftîñg

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 why ?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

A 6 x 4 or 12 x 4 rectangle of keys.

TùxCräftîñg

12 × 4 = 48

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

mınxomaτ

6:55 PM

There have been some massive android malware issues in the past few weeks. That's what you get when you license an OS to OEMs and tell them to issue security patches. They won't.

Anonymous

Standard US keyboards have 46 text input keys just on the main portion. The 15 additional numpad keys present on some keyboards are recognized separately for a total of 61. Factor in ALT, CTRL, SHIFT, and combinations, and you can easily reach 256+ key combos.

Maltysen

@Mego also caps lock as a modifier

TùxCräftîñg

(rm ed)

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

But a standard keyboard doesn't even seem to look like a 6 x 4 or 12 x 4 rectangle of keys.

mınxomaτ

What?

TùxCräftîñg

6:57 PM

yup, but you can map the keys with this rectangle rotated 90deg

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