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03:00
as molarmanful
should I be worried what kind of image I give off when my colleague asks me if I know any good illegal download sites <_<
@Quill redirect them to Github
anyone have a good idea for file suffixes for wistful-c?
everybody knows how shady github is
03:01
@Quill Hey, they asked :P
@Maltysen WC.... haha
@Maltysen Waffles?
Like a file extension!
If so, .sigh
@AlexA. what you talking about
@AlexA. oooh nice one
@Maltysen What are you talking about?
@AlexA. pancackes
03:03
also I got an apple magic mouse
@Doorknob @MartinEnder @Sp3000 @Geobits Want to request something before the good ones are taken?
and i think i'm completely misusing it
@HelkaHomba I'll be map :P
@MamaFunRoll Well, for one it isn't actually magic. It also isn't a thermometer. If you're using it in either of those scenarios then it's likely that you're misusing it.
well I'm activating trap cards with it
so
idk
🃏YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD.🃏
03:04
@HelkaHomba I want to be __future__ (or else IDK)
As somebody? XD
from somebody import print_function ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Mars, probably
from Mars import antigravity
@MamaFunRoll Good luck trying to play games with it
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ That's a module name, I'm not changing those. You could be __import__
@HelkaHomba It's not a module name
03:05
@Quill you never know
Future statements are not import statements
one of these days they'll ban me from mcctf for "hacking"
you should be clsas
@HelkaHomba can I have a thing?
but I'll be using my magic mouse
03:06
is lambda / def already taken?
🃏YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD.🃏
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Both are
Quill is def and El'endia Starman is lambda
03:07
also, @HelkaHomba does the people's python support unicode? if so, stylize my name plz
Once the interpreter is done, I expect @HelkaHomba to be the first to post in the language.
@HelkaHomba Easterly and Irk for Try and Except?
and riker for raise?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ok
:30149790 Taken by Doorknoib
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ doorknob.
ninjuic'ed
03:07
@MamaFunRoll ehh, we'll see
@HelkaHomba I'll be waiting
hasn't updated yet
@HelkaHomba can I make a request for the feed bots?
03:09
Wait, we can be builtins as well?
are we allowed to do multiple name requests?
@HelkaHomba tuple for NewSandboxedPosts, list for NewMainPosts, and int for NewProposedLoopholes.
it's going to be hell golfing in this language
@MamaFunRoll Kinda. If your name easily splits into multiple parts.
Upgoat should probably be raise due to the name implications
03:10
Also dict for NewMetaPosts
and NewMetaPosts for str and NewlyFeaturedQuestions for ascii, because nobody even uses that.
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ hm
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Let's wait until more real users have a chance
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ the other two are array-ish (?) types
I think I need to change my username first
Somebody deal with this please
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A: Build an ASCII Fibonacci Clock

Chuck MireI wanted an accurate 24-hour Fibonacci clock that included hours, minutes, and seconds. Since no one had done this, I coded it myself in QB64 as a standalone Windows executable. The red square is hours, the green square is minutes, and the blue square is seconds. At the links below, there are Zi...

03:11
@HelkaHomba maybe use mama for ascii, fun for not, and roll for break?
you don't have to do all 3
I am mostly brain ded right now, so I can't really.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ wtf are you doing up at 23:12.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@MamaFunRoll I'm going to try and limit to max of 2 per person. So @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I didn't give you raise
@HelkaHomba alrighty, just choose one of them then
@MamaFunRoll And I'm thinking no. Printable ascii is just so much more convenient
03:13
It's too bad Python doesn't have end, since that would be perfect for Martin Ender.
@Everyone what keyword would be suitable for 'Eleven'?
what should Minibits be
@AlexA. Well, there's finally
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ idk bout him, but i'm avoiding doing my english essay
@AlexA. time to make a TI-BASIC relex
03:15
@MamaFunRoll molarmanful is already while. Including anagrams seems borderline :/
@Dennis question bout TIO, can interpreters call gcc?
actually, no that would allow arbitrary execution
i'll just write my own interpreter
@HelkaHomba your choice
@Maltysen Yeah I think they can since things are sandboxed now
@HelkaHomba you should also do some operators, like + and %
It's not possible for us to do something like a series of Project Euler questions for code golf, right? A sketchier version would be to create questions based, but not matching, on them except with arbitrary values to use as input.
03:16
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nah
@AlexA. but it still won't work, cuz i call Popen myself, and don't use print
@Maltysen Oh okay
hi there @miles
hello
03:17
def run(x):
	result = []
	while x > 5:
		result.add(x)
		x -= 1

	n_result = []
	for s in result:
		if (s % 2 and s % 3) or s % 5:
			n_result.add(s)
		else:
			n_result.add(s ** 2)

	return n_result

Quill run(x):
	result = []
	molarmanful x > 5:
		result.add(x)
		x -= 1

	n_result = []
	conor s obrien result:
		Calvins (s % 2 Helka s % 3) Homba s % 5:
			n_result.add(s)
		Hobbies:
			n_result.add(s ** 2)

	Alex n_result
and now I will sleep. g'night
@HelkaHomba sure
@Maltysen I hate english.
Esolangs are much better languages.
.i xo'o ru'e ko cilre fi la jbobau .i .ui
"I'm going to talk in Foo"
"@Doorknob ಠ_ಠ"
.i'e nai dai
@AlexA. exit? Ender Wiggin became more of an "end from life i.e. exit life" dude
03:23
are we tlaking conlangs here now?
I haz one
oooh pretty getmailbird.com
@Maltysen That depends. My brainfuck "interpreter" on TIO calls gcc, but the C code it can generate is very limited.
@Quill @AlexA. found your secret project.
@Quill It'd be prettier if it wasn't on Windows
still better than Outlook
03:29
Granted, that's not saying much
Mac's mail app isn't all that pretty either
it's fine though
better than all other I know of
I also dislike Mail.app. I use Postbox.
how much is it?
I use Mail.app but I need to change that when/if I get my mac back ;-;
Quick EOI: Would anyone be interested in a native chat client for computers?
03:36
I refuse to use anything that's not open source. :P mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird
the mozilla tab style makes me want to cry
I refuse to use anything that's not on a webserver gmail.com
I find the gmail website with desktop notifications to be great
@Quill this chat? Yes.
@HelkaHomba relavent:
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Q: Can you add new statements to Python's syntax?

dbrCan you add new statements (like print, raise, with) to Python's syntax? Say, to allow.. mystatement "Something" Or, new_if True: print "example" Not so much if you should, but rather if it's possible (short of modifying the python interpreters code)

@Doorknob Postbox is based on Thunderbird. So it's open source core with proprietary components, akin to Chromium/Chrome.
@Quill You mean IRC?
03:44
Mailbird is a Thunderbird fork as well
@AlexA. like a native chat client for SE (not in terminal)
10/10 would support
what language would it be in?
For anybody who is interested, somebody doing the pacifist route for nethack, on NAO as Eldrak, active right now.
Level 1 wizard with pet archon.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ JavaScript, CSS and HTML of course
@Quill would it be an electron thing to get it native?
03:51
@Maltysen yup
@Helka Sounds like terrible idea, but I'll take nonlocal
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

milesCompute the Discrete Fourier Transform code-golf Implement the Discrete Fourier Transform for a sequence of any length. This may implemented as either a function or a program and the sequence can be given as either an argument or using standard input. The algorithm will compute a result based ...

@Sp3000 :(
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ thx
04:06
@HelkaHomba ?
> terrible idea
Oh well, code reading-wise :P
True Homba False
If I can make it slightly golfier than normal Python it might catch on ;)
04:13
@HelkaHomba ;_; for no Downgoat
> Ping HelkaHomba to request yours.
@Upgoat FWIW I suggested Upgoat (your current name) for raise since up -> raise.
@Quill that was my way of requesting :P
Raise teh goats
04:17
@Upgoat I might use you for min and max. Calvin's and Hobbies can go elsewhere
what about set and frozenset?
or set and list?
or list and tuple
@Upgoat (cc @HelkaHomba) would list and tuple work for Up and Goat?
Maybe list/set/tuple for up/down/goat, but @HelkaHomba said only 2 to start.
@Himarm2017 10/10 nice username
thank you
Helping @Himarm (the original) run for mod
even if there is no election rn
What site?
04:26
Arqade has an election right now
@AlexA. I"m guessing scifi
@AlexA. scifi
Latest XKCD
Ah. I'm not familiar with Himarm the user.
04:26
Not a election rn though
oh my ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the hover text
in Mos Eisley, 44 mins ago, by Himarm
i wanted to be a mod and yall chose rand
@Quill 10/10
G'night guys!
@Himarm2017 10/10 for capitalization
@Himarm2017 bai
04:47
@Quill Damnit, I was literally just about to post that.
@HelkaHomba Can one of my username(s) be in the peoples python?
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Sure. Plenty of open space. Have a request?
Hmmm. Let me think about it.
I feel like I need to pick the best one.
What's been reserved so far?
04:53
^ though I'm about to update it
Aww, dammit I was going to take in.
How about if = dj
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ that's going to be calvins actually :3
wait one min for the update
Aww, drat.
You went with calvin, not helka?
@HelkaHomba I thought min would be Calvins.
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I've been back and forth. I just added a lot of names without requests but things can still change
04:59
@HelkaHomba Can I take range = ham ?
What word is most recognizable as me? Ham? DJ? DR?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You've been demoted from for...in to import...from in deference to Peter Taylor. Nothing personal, he's just has more rep
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ it can be long
DrGreenEggsandHamDJ for range would be funny
Haha, yeah it would be.
Idk, I don't want it to be too long. Maybe just DRHamDJ?
I am trying to keep cases similar, so drhamdj?
05:04
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @Himarm2017 @MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ if any of you want to work on Cheddar docs, there's a gitbooks here: gitbook.com/book/cheddar/docs/details. If you login to gitbooks with your Github, you should already have access to edit the docs. You can edit them, with markdown
@HelkaHomba Okay, sure.
Or, if you want to be super obnoxious, you can do small uppercase for riker and conor.
:P
I don't :p
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ ham and DJ
Haha, I love min=downgoat, max=upgoat.
05:07
@HelkaHomba why is False not alex ಠ_ಠ
@Upgoat He requested Return
@HelkaHomba :/
False=Alex is too perfect to pass up on. How about both?
@HelkaHomba Ohh, I want zyabin for bin, please.
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I explicitly requested return so that I wouldn't get False.
05:08
the joke is getting old...
@AlexA. Does the meme bother you at all?
Bother? Nah. It's just really, really old at this point.
> Cultural Height: Ongoing...
Older than Scala
should it be changed?
05:11
@Upgoat Ok. Fixed this and thinned it out a bit. I'm open to suggestions enjoyed by the community
While we're retiring memes, can we retire Avocad?
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@AlexA. overruled
Man, we need some new memes.
@HelkaHomba :/
@ThoseWhoWerentElected you shoulda promised to get rid of Avocad
05:13
@HelkaHomba s/buy/by
@Quill @Himarm2017
@HelkaHomba I'd really like to not be False please
@AlexA. What should be false then? (I do like buttner for return)
It's almost an anagram.
His name isn't even Büttner anymore...
05:14
@AlexA. martin and ender have their spots too
So Martin gets three spots? Favoritism? ;P
I mean, he's essentially our sites Jon Skeet.
It's not that unreasonable.
@AlexA. So do I :4
@HelkaHomba how will you transpile Python code to this? Will you modify python interpreter source or just do find&replace
@HelkaHomba Well, it's your project ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
05:15
@Upgoat not sure yet, I'll worry later
Will old users be included? Maybe False = chrisJY?
@HelkaHomba isTheAlexMemeFunnyStill
@HelkaHomba every programmer ever?
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I don't think chris is that old to be considered "old"
@El'endiaStarman Have a place for elendia in mind? How about enumerate?
05:17
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Oh I should add him somewhere
^ CJY = class
10/10 descriptive commit messages
thank you
@HelkaHomba While you're at it, you should also get gnibbler and the other former mod whose name I can't remember.
@HelkaHomba If you aren't using the Unicode then you should use the transliteration Buettner
@HelkaHomba Maybe cky, his not married initials? :3
05:19
"And" should be "Adnan".
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Maybe. I was trying to put DigitalTrauma on two related things
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 > Learning to breathe...
you should see a doctor about that
@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ a weird way to spell 2
@Upgoat ^_^
oh no i borked cheddar bad
assignment is reborked
halp how unbork
05:22
I kinda forgot fron where I got it.
oh no i even pushed borked version to GH
;_;
Where should @Rainbolt go?
@HelkaHomba None is as good as anything. FML
@Geobits This thing might make me some enemies :I
05:34
Oh, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just kicking my ass over a poor decision I made a few minutes ago.
Was that poor decision reopening your TNB tab?
Uh, let's just say I just got home from a movie date and leave it at that. Oh, and I'm an idiot. That's a big factor.
ouch... sorry buddy
@Geobits You gotta be suave
@AlexA. Oh, that wasn't the issue. Like I said, I'm an idiot is all.
So now I'm here.
>_>
05:41
goddamn it @AlexA.
:30151302 Such a mature mod...
But, since I'm here, who wants rum? I know I do :)
they're all doing shots of something here at work
@Upgoat halp i need a minimalistic/svg picture of juic
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ try my avocad blog post
idk AvocadOS?
like any juice or just avocado juice
05:55
avocad juic
k brb making
nvm, I don't have time. Try tracing this in illustrator, change the color, and put the avocad from avocadOS
did you just try and link a local image
@Quill idk what you're talking about
> Upgoat said: nvm, I don't have time. Try tracing [this in illustrator](/Users/vihan/Downloads/39299090-Glass-of-juice-Flat-icon-with-shad‌​ow-Vector-illustration--Stock-Vector.jpg)
@mod pls purge history so i dont look like an idiot
06:00
@Upgoat -1 Tried link, didn't work
@Geobits well it's not like I expected a +1 from you anyway :P
Good to know I'm meeting your expectations.
@Upgoat There are more idiotic things than silly typos
^ true :/
@HelkaHomba true, like using JavaScript for a big project
@mod pls delete all messages releating to cheddar and javasacript
06:03
I can actually +1 this ^
@Upgoat do you mind doing it sometime later? i'm bad at tracing and don't have illustrator, and also it's not urgent
I don't know whether to ಠ_ಠ or :D
@Upgoat But that's a not a bad idea
It's just that you're not approaching it like a big project
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ idk, JavaScript was never ment for big projects and having to compile every change is kinda annoying
0/10 no unit tests
06:04
@Upgoat Wow. The first TNB mention of cheddar was your language chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/28536711#28536711
@Upgoat Only because you're using babel
Surely we've talked about cheese before that ._.
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I tri juic mocha fo thritee dai but no work
Also maybe it's not a good idea after all
JS is a lot better for modular projects
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ if you can get mocha working that would be great :3
Just run ./interpreter/cli/cheddar < input.cdr
and test if console output is correct
idk how to do it with mocha and all though
06:07
you don't just use assert.equal?
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ idk
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ do you want bubbles in the juic?
@Upgoat Don't mind
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ btw are you using this for any commercial stuff? Removing the watermark will probably get copyright people mda
@Upgoat I want to use it for my profile picture
Nice
06:12
So juic can be filter in ThePeoplesPython
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Juic is not a display name I know.
Hello
06:27
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ got the watermark removed will finish tomorrow
@Upgoat thanks
07:14
I think I've broken my MySQL Server... again... Nevermind found the mistake
07:28
yay I got my mac back.... time to code all of the stuffs
@Quill why just code on mac? code on all of the platforms
uh wat
@levanth But Quill only has a mac
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I didn't knew that ^^
Is it possible to use a less than(<=) operator in the ON condition of a mysql join? I really should just try these things first ^^
07:46
@Upgoat halp can i install non-cheddar stuff to the cheddar c9? i need a project that changes pretty often to test something
08:45
Anyone here?
Anonymous
Who do I have to bribe around here to get some feedback? 0/0 votes isn't very helpful or encouraging.
Anonymous
It's hard to continue advocating the use of the Sandbox when so few challenges get substantial feedback in there...
@HelkaHomba I feel like @Geobits should be something representing decrement or down* . Also, any particular reason behind me being as ?
@HelkaHomba @Upgoat should be some type of exception
@Mego It's gr8, 11/10, post it
Anonymous
@Bálint The last several challenges I have posted have gone relatively unnoticed (< 15 vote total, < 1k views). In case it's an issue with challenge quality, I'd rather wait and get more feedback in the Sandbox before posting.
08:54
Beta decay should be instant -15
Anonymous
But at this rate, it doesn't look like that's going to work, since only ~5 people regularly look at the Sandbox and give feedback (unless people poke and prod at chat), so what the hell. To main it goes. 2 days should be plenty of time for any problems to be found and ironed out.
Anonymous
Gonna generate some test cases and throw it up on main
@Mego Same with area 51

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