The Nineteenth Byte

yeah

:30147470 I can't see anything wrong but I refreshed your profile just in case it makes any difference.

I mean obviously I can see something's wrong I just don't know what it is...

@PhiNotPi I visited

Lots of things are squares, is that right?

(Win 10, latest chrome)

@trichoplax thanks!

Oh - don't tell me that actually fixed it??

Was it just affecting TNB or all of chat?

12:31 AM

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell......

It works now, that's all that matters.

I'd kind of assumed that it wasn't you trolling because as much as I credit you with the patience, it didn't quite ring true. Now I'm doubting myself... :P

Well, whatever was causing it, it seems to have stopped.

That's great

So thanks for the refresh, even if that wasn't the fix.

PhiNotPi

@HelkaHomba I'm seeing the same thing....

@HelkaHomba try visiting again?

12:41 AM

@PhiNotPi looks good now (Though making the icons part of the links might be nice)

PhiNotPi

hmm.... I'm trying to figure out why the view count plugin doesn't work with phinotpi.com

Maybe the plugin is doing something sketchy on the back end?

@Geobits Welcome back!

You pronounced me dead :/

1 hour ago, by Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

RIP Geobits.

Minecraft is the best selling game ever after Tetris o.O

@Geobits hey how was I supposed to know the difference?

12:45 AM

So many Wii games near the top is impressive.

Though that list seems dubious. It says Tetris was released in 2006 and Wii Sports is #3 ;)

Wii Sports came bundled with Wiis for a long time (this also improves Tetris numbers).

So that's believable.

They're referring to a specific version of tetris, released in 06.

@HelkaHomba Wow is Tetris that old already?

The year is, but the 500M figure has to be combining them all.

12:48 AM

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ You sure? I mean probably but where does it say that? The links go to generic Tetris

Tetris is just #1 because it's been ported to literally everything:

> and even as an Easter egg on non-media products like oscilloscopes.

6

@HelkaHomba ascii_shrug.txt I had always heard it sold half a million specifically on mobile. Idk for sure though.

@Doorknob C has non-pointers.

shh, it's a joke :P

> What if we took the joke too far?

12:51 AM

@Quill Jelly?

PPCG: What if everything was codegolf?

@Geobits Perl6 from list

> Jelly: What if Dennis could outgolf everyo--oh wait.

wt f dns cld otglf evry1?

evry1 -> all -2 bytes

> wt f

12:55 AM

Oh well if we're seriously golfing it, you can get rid of the "what if"

and the question mark

Serious? Um, no

Your name is blue. You're supposed to be super serious at all times. Look to Alex for inspiration.

@Geobits I try to avoid being serious except where necessary. I'm working up to Alex's level though...

@Doorknob whatthe fuck

Ah, and here comes Alex to show us how it's done :D

12:58 AM

Right on cue :)

@AlexA. context is everything

Grammar!

@bkul Could you put that in a full sentence? :P

Using "grammar" as in interjection seems almost ironic to me >_>

I switched back to this tab and didn't even realize I had been mentioned. I was just doing my duty to inject profanity into otherwise family-friendly scenarios.

damn ninjas

1:00 AM

@Geobits You should have golfed your face down to 2 bytes...

@Geobits stealing all our jobs

@trichoplax :o

1 min ago, by trichoplax

@AlexA. context is everything

Most faces are more than two bites, though.

1:01 AM

@Geobits I realised as I was typing it that it sounds like a weird insult rather than ninja advice...

Just in case we needed more evidence of Geobits being a cannibal

@AlexA. Lots of animals have faces...

You know, aside from him claiming on a disturbing number of occasions to be a cannibal

(some are less than a bite...)

@AlexA. Well it's not like I'm trying to hide the fact or anything.

1:02 AM

in The 2nd Monitor, Jan 25 at 2:46, by Mat's Mug

@Quill there's a special place in Hell for everybody that ever pasted an XKCD comic without the hover text

It's okay, he invented Arcyòu so all is forgiven.

DAGNABBIT I'M SORRY

@Quill Is it next to the lake? If so, that doesn't sound so bad.

Ah, Arcyòu. The language no one can pronounce, type, or use seriously for anything.

That's my spot, @Geobits, don't you dare think of taking it

1:03 AM

I'm sure my spot's already been picked out, no worries.

@bkul I mentally pronounce it like "Ark-yoo." It's easy to type on Mac because I can just hold o and get accent marks. But I concede on #3.

> R: What.if.everything.was.dot.separated_butOnlySometimes?

It's okay, I'm working on a better language that's worse for golfing.

> $whatIfEverythingWasMoney

if(everything instanceof Object) {what();}

Scheme: What if you could program in math?

1:07 AM

octave: what if I could have matlab and food

@Geobits what

if

everything

was

in

1:08 AM

tiny

bitesize

pieces

?

Flawless

ಠ_ಠ

1:08 AM

We've achieved something here today

Stop the presses, we've done it again.

reddit.com/r/onewordeach

PhiNotPi

@Doorknob I'm annoyed by the use of "was" instead of "were" in those sentences.

A fellow pedant!

Everything is singular

Is it not?

1:10 AM

Sometimes

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 12 mins ago, by tchrist

@Quill :%s/if everything was/if everything were/

Everything is wonderful, but what if everything were not?

It's one of those cases where the correct way looks wrong to the majority of people

It's perfect smug food

Well, if it looks wrong to me then it's objectively wrong.

@AlexA. Yep, that's pretty much how objectivity works.

1:11 AM

@trichoplax I think watercress is smug food

It has every right to be

@Geobits It is on the Internet, anyway

@AlexA. Were is also used for conditionals

Were it only that simple...

.-.

1:13 AM

To me that's just shorthand for "if it were" though, so meh.

wereonly werefore were a word

We're not convinced, but we were.

if (x > 3) were

This is a great way to filter the pedants into different categories

I like doStuff() were (x>3)

1:15 AM

There's a line that had aspirations once

It's great typo fodder too. I had to stop myself from typing where.

@Geobits That looks like a typo of doStuff() where (x>3)

:D

Ah, one second too late

Yeah internal autocorrect is almost irresistible

For some reason I find most of my typos are correctly spelled

1:16 AM

@HelkaHomba A solution to your mini challenge in sed (16 bytes): s/$b$/\1its/ig

(The wrong word spelled correctly)

Ok, I should probably get going. Hopefully nobody deletes all my recent messages while I'm gone :/

Time will tell...

New idea: A language where the equality operator is `were`, the beginning of a block is `...`, and the end is `*sigh*`.
    if x were 3...
        doStuff()
    *sigh*

if only x were 3...

1:23 AM

@Geobits That's the assignment operator

funny though

I'll start the crowdfunding with 50 rep.

@bkul end the program with "if wishes were horses..."

But the entire language needs to be as ridiculous as that. Otherwise my pledge is retracted.

I feel like some sufficiently evil sed-ing could translate this to C.

1:27 AM

Ok, I really need to get going. Stop being interesting in here.

I'll get to work.

@Geobits #cantstopwontstop

@AlexA. invalid preprocessing directive

TIL Dennis is hip and loves shoes

@bkul can i help?

this sounds like a good idea

1:29 AM

@Maltysen Absolutely!

How about naming it WistfulC?

haha nice

@AlexA. Cannot reproduce.

@bkul so we just preprocess, then compile as C?

@Maltysen Yes. I'm thinking some of it can be handled by the C preprocessor, like s/were/==

what about reducing some of its features and writing a full interpreter

but that seems like a better idea

1:31 AM

If you want to do that you can, but I'm too lazy.

but how would you, for example replace . . . with () around the block? it would take full regexp

"Hey here's a bizarre idea." "Let's turn it into a programming language. I'll start writing the interpreter." #justppcgthings

9

How about a language where all of the core commands are PPCG usernames?

Only if we use Calvin's Hobbies instead of Helka Homba.

2

what would Helka Homba do

1:33 AM

One at a time, please @HelkaHomba

@bkul codeshare.io/8Ahav

wth how do i run the code?

1/10 would not codeshare again

Copy-paste to an actual editor?

@bkul what language?

python or js has easy regexp

Hmm.. How about Python?

I would suggest Perl but I don't know it

k

coderpad.io/ZW2ET9KZ

1:35 AM

@Maltysen You don't. Codeshare is Pastebin with video chat.

or use Cloud9

@bkul do you wanna compile to C?

I would like to, yes

ok then

@bkul lets start with a list of substitutions

okay

1:38 AM

and our main core can be applying those to re.sub

@bkul wait what about types

Hmm..

Leave them?

For now

so, it would be "int if only x were 3..."

right?

"if only int x were 3..."

2:10 AM

@HelkaHomba I really might do this with the 33 Python 3 keywords. Ping me to reserve the keyword to replace with your name:

['False', 'None', 'True', 'and', 'as', 'assert', 'break', 'class', 'continue', 'def', 'del', 'elif', 'else', 'except', 'finally', 'for', 'from', 'global', 'if', 'import', 'in', 'is', 'lambda', 'nonlocal', 'not', 'or', 'pass', 'raise', 'return', 'try', 'while', 'with', 'yield']

(Final keyword decisions are up to me.)

@HelkaHomba I'll take True for 500.

@HelkaHomba Return an Alex, por favor

@HelkaHomba I'll take def ;)

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba I'd like "Starman" in place of lambda.

ok to all of you

2:17 AM

Maybe Calvin's Hobbies should be if else :P

Calvin's Dennis:
    Alex 1
Hobbies:
    Starman x: x+1

Alex should be False

:/

That's why I reserved early, so I wouldn't be stuck with False

@HelkaHomba it might be better if you did python2, so you could replace print

@HelkaHomba can I be pass?

If you do Python 2 you lose nonlocal, right?

@Geobits we made good on your venture capital:

github.com/Nazek42/wistful-c

2:19 AM

@Maltysen I'll keep it 3 but change print as well. Any other "almost" keywords I should consider?

@HelkaHomba the builtins?

exec and eval?

@Maltysen Oh right, all of those

@HelkaHomba well that's the python2 list, but yeah

@Maltysen Yeah, sure, those are all up for grabs. We have enough users.

New Main Posts

2:22 AM

SOMETIMES I WEAR PAJAMAS TO BED AND SOMETIMES I DON'T?

11

This language needs a name

PPCGython is bland

PPCGlang

blander ._.

haha

Definitely thought that said bladder

Programming Puzzles & User Names Language Extravaganza Forever

2:25 AM

PP&UNLEF/PPaUNLEF

Calvin's Languages

@HelkaHomba you'll have to do a little parsing, cuz the names might be in strings

Release the hounds.

@Maltysen Yeah, what's the easiest way to do that?

@HelkaHomba we had a challenge on that IIRC

2:31 AM

Rule 51: If it exists, there's a PPCG challenge about it.

5

but there are an infinite number of challenges

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Upgoat Yes

@HelkaHomba Make it a mishmash of some names

@HelkaHomba New Main Posts

El'endia Starman

^ Actually not a bad name.

Community

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

2:38 AM

Eleven

-11 not enough mod abuse

PPCG's Lango Supreme

Call the language: "The reason no one loves me"

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Wait I thought Alex is supposed to be False, not return

I specifically requested return so that I wouldn't be stuck with False.

@HelkaHomba The Nineteenth Language

2:42 AM

Keywords Considered Harmful

> (Final keyword decisions are up to me.) - Calvin

He already said okay after I requested it though... ._.

How about a language where the grammar syntax is ned flanders quotes

@Dennis PPCG Considered Harmful

github.com/HelkaHomba/ThePeoplesPython

2:44 AM

Helka Considered Calvin

Brian Tompsett should be memoryview because it exists but who the hell has ever used it?

It just lurks silently

much like our beloved Dr. Tompsett

@AlexA. who?

Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩, Hull, UK

289 3 7

The guy who used to always be in chat but never said anything

oh this guy

__main__ should be TNB

Or Joel Spolsky

2:48 AM

> I was the first timelord and created the tardis.

@AlexA. shit, remember when I made fun of him and posted his picture here in chat without noticing he was here

@HelkaHomba request: for = conor and in = obrien

I don't think he really looks at what's going on in here

Dec 1 '15 at 3:38, by Maltysen

maybe that's geobits' real identity

2:50 AM

@HelkaHomba follows 4 people on GitHub: 3 PPCG moderators and... Sp. .-.

woah your github avatar @AlexA

?

> I'm some guy who likes nouns, does verbs, and is very adjective.

yeah

@Doorknob Hey, it's accurate.

2:52 AM

he picked a random "hot" (I assume sarcasm) face from the interwebs.

@AlexA. it's like 100x cooler than your last one

Mar 10 at 20:03, by Alex A.

Idk, some guy. I use his picture because he's super hot ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@Quill Oh, thanks. Haha

@AlexA. If it helps I never really check what they are up to

@AlexA. you shaved!

2:53 AM

??

on your profile pic

I didn't have any facial hair in the picture prior to the current one...

@AlexA. shrug, blamemymemory

I actually have a tiny bit of chin hair in the current picture, though that's long since gone.

hallo all

2:55 AM

@AlexA. eyy I have more chin hair than an adult because I haven't shaved since school ended

lol

^^.... >_>

Yeah, because I'm clean shaven. :P

@AlexA. What about elif?

wtaf are you guys even talking about

@AlexA.'s facial hair.

2:56 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ school ended? when?

well

@HelkaHomba CalHobbies

@Maltysen a couple weeks ago for him iirc

@Maltysen for me, may 22nd

my birthday was yesterday

2:56 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ D:

@MamaFunRoll HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!

indeed

@Maltysen I started in august.

it was also the founding of abercrombie and fitch

and the day of the tiananmen square revolution

so

yeah happy birthday

to me

Updated list with all requests: github.com/HelkaHomba/ThePeoplesPython/blob/master/…

2:58 AM

@Maltysen why is he so red

@HelkaHomba Tompsett, no r

When did dennis ask for False?

He wanted True

But CH is the supreme overlord of naming

fixed both issues

@HelkaHomba mind if I request a spot as while in the people's python?