The Nineteenth Byte

Sp3000

15:00

SyntaxError: not a chance

zyabin101

pip install plug

Daaaaarn!

yes | pip uninstall plug

@Sp3000 from plugs import shameless

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nice! From middle/secondary school?

zyabin101

HAI @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Mego lol okay

@zyabin101 HAI

@QPaysTaxes okay

oh wait, you probably already graduated. Well, nice!

zyabin101

Welcome to The Nineteenth Byte chat @weatherman115!

Kenny Lau

15:07

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ try the challenge

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

?

Kenny Lau

Given positive integer n, find integers a and b such that a**2 * b = n

and b is square-free

zyabin101

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Challenge: Given N, find two numbers X and Y such that X**2 * Y = N holds true, and Y is square-free

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol ninj'aed

zyabin101

Dardi dardi doh!

El'endia Starman

15:09

> ... you should probably know that a Turing machine to test whether all perfect squares are less than 5, produced using Laconic, needed to run for more than an hour before it found the first counterexample (namely, 32=9) and halted. Laconic Turing machines are optimized only for the number of states, not for speed, to put it mildly.

zyabin101

struck by gods

weatherman115

What does the ** bit mean?

Kenny Lau

power

x**2 just means x squared

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

exponentiation.

x to the 2nd power.

El'endia Starman

@El'endiaStarman The very essence of code-golf.

weatherman115

15:10

You mean x^2?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

El'endia Starman

It's Python syntax.

Fatalize

x^2 is 1 byte shorter

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

but some places use ^ for XOR, so ** is often used.

Kenny Lau

I personally dislike ^ for power

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:10

^

:P

Fatalize

makes more sense than **

Kenny Lau

:D

Sp3000

I personally prefer ^ for power, as a mathematician, but given the need for something to be xor the decision is tough

Kenny Lau

treat ** as "hyper-multiplication"

orlp

@Fatalize no?

weatherman115

15:12

I looooove math.

El'endia Starman

Pytek will have ^ for exponentiation because bitwise operators won't be given their own symbolic operators. (They'll be words.)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@weatherman115 good

weatherman115

It's the best subject

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

Do you code?

Kenny Lau

Although I do use ^ when talking about maths

weatherman115

15:12

Yeah

orlp

@Fatalize nothing about ^ makes sense, you're only used to it.

weatherman115

I do Scratch

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay

learn Julia

orlp

no, learn Python if anything

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no, learn Julia if anything

Fatalize

15:13

@orlp lol, yeah it's not like ^ looks like an arrow pointing upwards that indicates that it should be an exponent

whereas * is not even the symbol for multiplication in the first place

Sp3000

Learn both, cos why not

orlp

@Fatalize it is

all of math uses the centre dot

Fatalize

* is not a dot

weatherman115

There's actually a thing for Scratch users to ease the transition to Python

Fatalize

but ok

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:13

Actually, the best operator for exponentiation is (behold): x<sup>y</sup>

weatherman115

It's called Slither

orlp

@Fatalize ^ is not an arrow

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Bracket the y with <sup> and </sup> aaaand you're done!

Fatalize

I didn't say it is

orlp

and exponentiation doesn't use arrows

it uses superscripts

zyabin101

15:14

@weatherman115 Where?

Fatalize

which ^ indicates graphically

weatherman115

I'm looking, but all I see is slither.io clones

Fatalize

It's almost as if things like LaTeX use ^ for superscripts, almost as if it made sense

FryAmTheEggman

Usually I've seen the * character used for convolution in written mathematics, which I'm sure Luis et al would approve of replacing this silly multiplication operator ;)

orlp

^ is a notational approximation, ** is a logical approximation (repeated multiplication)

weatherman115

15:15

Here it is

github.com/PySlither/Slither

Fatalize

** is both

since * is not multiplication

orlp

as I said before, it is

it's the closest thing we have in ASCII to the centre dot

Fatalize

you're just used to * being multiplication ;)

weatherman115

Me too

I always use it when doing multiplication

trichoplax

Knuth's up-arrow notation

In mathematics, Knuth's up-arrow notation is a method of notation for very large integers, introduced by Donald Knuth in 1976. It is closely related to the Ackermann function and especially to the hyperoperation sequence. The idea is based on the fact that multiplication can be viewed as iterated addition and exponentiation as iterated multiplication. Continuing in this manner leads to iterated exponentiation (tetration) and to the remainder of the hyperoperation sequence, which is commonly denoted using Knuth arrow notation. == Introduction == The ordinary arithmetical operations of addition,...

orlp

15:17

now we just need notation for repeated up-arrow notation

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax I wonder if it's possible for me to define an operator that can be chained endlessly in Pytek...

orlp

and notation for repeated repeated up-arrow notation :D

@El'endiaStarman your lexer can do that

El'endia Starman

@orlp Simple! One up arrow is equivalent to exponentiation, so it's easy enough to do ^^ for two up arrows, ^^^ for three, etc.

orlp

you can have a lexer translate *** to (*, 3), **** to (*, 4)

weatherman115

I hate my slow typing

Fatalize

15:19

anyway, reserving ^ for xor is stupid, this operator is a lot less used than power

orlp

@El'endiaStarman no, you miss my point

weatherman115

Case in point

FryAmTheEggman

@orlp en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway_chained_arrow_notation#Properties

weatherman115

Well, I've got to go read Fahrenheit 451

orlp

a ^ b, a ^^ b, a ^^^ b, ..... a {n times ^ } b

then repeated-up-arrow is a | n, which is a {n times ^} a

then we can repeat that!

Fatalize

15:20

Knuth's up-arrow notation

In mathematics, Knuth's up-arrow notation is a method of notation for very large integers, introduced by Donald Knuth in 1976. It is closely related to the Ackermann function and especially to the hyperoperation sequence. The idea is based on the fact that multiplication can be viewed as iterated addition and exponentiation as iterated multiplication. Continuing in this manner leads to iterated exponentiation (tetration) and to the remainder of the hyperoperation sequence, which is commonly denoted using Knuth arrow notation. == Introduction == The ordinary arithmetical operations of addition,...

a ^² b

orlp

@Fatalize yes, you see, but now we've just deferred the problem

what if I want to do that n times?

conway's chain notation solves that... until we want to repeat chains!

2 -> 2 -> 2 -> 2 -> ... (n times) ... -> 2

then what if we want to repeat that?

it's a never ending cycle of repetition

El'endia Starman

This reminds me of Vsauce's recent video on orders of infinity...

Kenny Lau

meta-meta-meta-uparrow

meta*n-uparrow

Fatalize

"what if we want to repeat that?" no point in inventing notations for things you don't use anyway

orlp

@KennyLau that's good, but what if I want to repeatedly use meta*n-uparrow?

Kenny Lau

15:23

well

meta^n-uparrow

orlp

@Fatalize you've come to the wrong place if you wanted useful things :P

@KennyLau same question :P

Kenny Lau

well

meta(meta^n)-uparrow

FryAmTheEggman

Couldn't it just be triadic? f (base, value, meta-arrow-ness)

orlp

@KennyLau what if I want to repeat n metas?

meta(meta(meta(meta(meta...

@FryAmTheEggman ah, but what if I want to repeatedly do f(f(f(f(f(f(f(f(base, value, ...?

Kenny Lau

@orlp I ran out of notation

or not

meta(^n

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:25

f^2(.........)?

trichoplax

@KennyLau I believe that was the goal :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I've alway seen f o f = f^2(x)

El'endia Starman

f^f(n)

FryAmTheEggman

Hmm, variadic? f(base, value, first-meta-ness, second-meta-ness, ...)

Kenny Lau

@FryAmTheEggman And then repeat that?

FryAmTheEggman

15:26

Couldn't you just add one more argument if you wanted to repeat it?

Fatalize

Continuing that xor discussion, ^ isn't even a used symbol for xor in math

Kenny Lau

and then if I want to have n arguments?

trichoplax

@Fatalize I'd like to see a symbol which reflects the symmetry of repeated operation

FryAmTheEggman

What do you mean by n arguments? A different argument for each meta level?

Sp3000

For xor they probably looked at ⊻ and went "Hmm, ^ is close enough, right?" "No, wouldn't everyone confuse that with AND?" "Well, do YOU have any better ideas?"

orlp

15:28

regardless of what operation you come up with, I can always come up with a function that grows faster by repeated application

⊕ is what cryptography papers use for XOR

the logic behind it is that it's addition without carry

so it's a plus sign with a circle around it

(\oplus)

trichoplax

Does anyone use multiplication without carry?

orlp

you thought BB(n) grew fast? try BB(BB(n))

Kenny Lau

It's called and @trichoplax

orlp

@trichoplax yes

@KennyLau no

it's multiplication of polynomials over GF(2)

(XOR is addition of polynomials over GF(2))

trichoplax

For bitwise?

orlp

15:32

@trichoplax can you rephrase?

trichoplax

Well, "phrase" since I didn't bother phrasing it the first time :)

orlp

I don't know what you mean with "for bitwise?"

trichoplax

I mean is the (2) because we're talking about bitwise and?

orlp

sorry I apologize (partly)

GF(2) addition is XOR, multiplication is AND

but that's only for a single bit

(hence field size 2)

trichoplax

Ah I see

orlp

15:34

however, for larger fields

e.g. GF(2^64) for 64 bits

addition is still XOR

but multiplication becomes polynomial multiplication, and it's no longer simple AND

trichoplax

Right

orlp

it's also not unambiguous

you have to choose your multiplication operation

because you need to reduce the polynomial multiplication modulo some irreducible polynomial

this is for example why there's multiple flavours of CRC (cyclic redundancy check)

you have CRC-32, CRC-32C (Castagnoli), CRC-32K
(Koopman {1,3,28}), CRC-32K2
(Koopman {1,1,30}), which differ by choice of irreducable polynomial

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

15:53

@Downgoat :D I got the cheddar install script!

zyabin101

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ \o/ Where?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}" )" && pwd )"
command="git clone github.com/cheddar-lang/Cheddar.git; cd Cheddar; eval npm install;echo 'alias cheddarrepl=\"node $DIR/Cheddar/dist/interpreter/tests/t_repl.js\"' >> ~/.bash_profile"

if [ -f ~/.bash_profile ];
then
   if grep -q 'cheddarrepl' ~/.bash_profile
	then
		echo "Script already ran, or remove the any mentions of `cheddarrepl` from your .bash_profile."
	else
		if [ ! -d ~/Cheddar ];
		then
			eval $command
		else
			echo "Please delete the Cheddar directory before retrying."

bash only right now

i need to upload

Quill

that should all be a node script inside package.json

zyabin101

@Quill Then we can't use the script easily.

Quill

well you can save it as a .sh file in the repo

zyabin101

15:58

@Quill ^^

It must be available using a curl command

Something like

Quill

and then add "dowhatever": "bash whatever.sh" to the package.json

zyabin101

curl install.cheddar.vihan.org

And it has to be in a command such as

bash -c `curl install.cheddar.vihan.org`

Also, some people don't have npm. :P

Welp, apparently, all Node users have npm.

But it must be available at ease.

Someone has also to create cpm install cheddar :P

orlp

16:18

now it's day 2 of typing on the new keyboard, back to 40 wpm

But it can go down to 20 when I have to type multiple words in a row with letters that I struggle with.

I struggle with the right hand and 'b' because I always had my right hand on hjkl instead of jkl;.

Bald Bantha

q=k=>{u=k;l='';for(x=0;x<k+1;x++){if(k%x==0){y=k/x;p=Math.abs(x-y);if(p<u){u=p;l‌=[x,y];}}}for(t=k;t<u+k;t++){o=Math.sqrt(t);l=o%1==0?[o,o]:l;}return l; }

working on codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/80106/… any tips?

FryAmTheEggman

multiline code blocks won't work in chat

Sp3000

Or, rather, you can't mix multiline code with a clickable hyperlink

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I like this form of operator.

1138

Q: What does the C ??!??! operator do?

I saw a line of C that looked like this: !ErrorHasOccured() ??!??! HandleError(); It compiled correctly and seems to run ok. It seems like it's checking if an error has occurred, and if it has, it handles it. But I'm not really sure what it's actually doing or how it's doing it. It does look l...

FryAmTheEggman

I still don't think you can actually turn on any markdown when multiline, can you?

Sp3000

16:27

I think that's true too

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes I liked that line too. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@QPaysTaxes no, Conor.

lol

@FryAmTheEggman yeah they will.

just you need 4 spaces, not the single backtick

test
test
taco

yep

blockquotes are funness

@QPaysTaxes do you use linux?

Bald Bantha

16:46

0

A: Flatten the Array!

JavaScript 33 bytes i=x=>'['+x.join().split(',')+']'; see this: http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/2711/47019

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

okay

Any linux users?

I need somebody to test something.

Bald Bantha

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I can pop onto my raspberry pi

what do you need

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

..

@BaldBantha can you run bash <(curl -s cheddar.vihan.org/install.sh) in the terminal?

Bald Bantha

um i guess

i'd have to boot up the pi and all

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

it should build cheddar and alias cheddarrepl to the repl.

@BaldBantha that's fine, you don't have to.

@QPaysTaxes can you run it easily? (in less then 5 minutes)

otherwise I'll wait for somebody else.

Bald Bantha

16:49

Won't work on mac?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

it does

but I need to test with linux also.

It plain won't with windows, unless windows 10 with bash.

Bald Bantha

k booted pi

JAS

how do I check if it worked

npm WARN package.json [email protected] No repository field.
npm WARN package.json [email protected] No license field.

yeah

still loading for me

I probably do my rpi has like everything

i never uninstall anything and I have so many projects that I installed the dependancies and then the project didn't work out

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I can try windows with bash if you want

nvm I don't have npm installed

pi is still loading

sh: 1: grunt: not found

npm ERR! Linux 4.1.13-v7+
npm ERR! argv "/usr/local/bin/node" "/usr/local/bin/npm" "install"
npm ERR! node v0.12.6
npm ERR! npm  v2.11.2
npm ERR! file sh
npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno ENOENT
npm ERR! syscall spawn
npm ERR! [email protected] postinstall: `grunt`
npm ERR! spawn ENOENT
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Failed at the [email protected] postinstall script 'grunt'.
npm ERR! This is most likely a problem with the Cheddar package,
npm ERR! not with npm itself.
npm ERR! Tell the author that this fails on your system:

I did not have grunt

bbl I'll install grunt sometime for you @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ

El'endia Starman

17:06

Scott Aaronson: Who Can Name the Bigger Number? I think I'm gonna binge-read this guy's essays. :P

Poke

@El'endiaStarman protip, change the width of that table column so the essay isn't 400px wide

El'endia Starman

@Poke It's from 1999.

And I can't do a thing about it. Deal with it. :P

Poke

well that explains the table formatting

i mean for ease of reading

mınxomaτ

I made the only valid submission: N McNface.

El'endia Starman

I think it's perfectly easy to read, especially because there's nothing else around the text that distracts.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:12

@BaldBantha okay.

I need to do that. :(

Poke

yeah but imagine if you had 1500px of width

Bald Bantha

OMG I got Pinged!!!

Poke

making much better use of screen real estate

and you don't have to scroll nearly as much

El'endia Starman

Your eyes would have to move a lot more though.

Poke

eye exercise!

El'endia Starman

17:13

Our eyes already get plenty of exercise. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@BaldBantha ...

El'endia Starman

Well, if you're not staring at a TV screen, that is.

Poke

does a computer monitor count

FryAmTheEggman

@Poke btw you know you can right click -> inspect element and just change the width yourself, right?

Bald Bantha

@mınxomaτ Move the curor to the left side of the N with the arrow keys and then type, it breaks. :DD

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:13

@BaldBantha can you try it again, but use <(curl -s cheddar.vihan.org/bashinstall.sh)

Poke

@FryAmTheEggman That is in fact what I did

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

note the bashinstall, not install.

Poke

i was offering a suggestion to other potential readers

El'endia Starman

Oh hey, @Poke, do you know about Spritz?

Poke

negative

FryAmTheEggman

17:14

Alright, just making sure :P

orlp

4 hours ago, by orlp

gorilla warfare

El'endia Starman

@Poke Spritz

@orlp Yes, I saw that earlier.

Poke

ahh maybe i have seen this

I feel like reading that fast is less enjoyable

Bald Bantha

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ trying

Poke

Then there's the problem where you get distracted and have to go back to all the bits you missed

Bald Bantha

17:17

npm ERR! tar.unpack untar error /home/pi/.npm/grunt-cli/1.2.0/package.tgz
npm ERR! Linux 4.1.13-v7+
npm ERR! argv "/usr/local/bin/node" "/usr/local/bin/npm" "install" "-g" "grunt-cli"
npm ERR! node v0.12.6
npm ERR! npm  v2.11.2
npm ERR! path /usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli
npm ERR! code EACCES
npm ERR! errno -13

npm ERR! Error: EACCES, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli'
npm ERR!     at Error (native)
npm ERR!  { [Error: EACCES, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli']
npm ERR!   errno: -13,

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

damnit

oh, try sudo

sudo <(curl -s cheddar.vihan.org/install.sh)

Poke

>.>

Bald Bantha

fixed the bash profile, trying sudo as well ("Script already ran, or remove the any mentions of 'cheddarrepl' from your .bash_profile.")

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

thanks for testing this

and hi @xnor

Bald Bantha

bash: /dev/fd/63: No such file or directory

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:19

wiat what?

Bald Bantha

trying not sudo now

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

is that the full error message?

Bald Bantha

Please delete the Cheddar directory before retrying.

fixing that now

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

every run remove the stuff from .bash_profile and rm -rf Cheddar/

Bald Bantha

npm ERR! tar.unpack untar error /home/pi/.npm/grunt-cli/1.2.0/package.tgz
npm ERR! Linux 4.1.13-v7+
npm ERR! argv "/usr/local/bin/node" "/usr/local/bin/npm" "install" "-g" "grunt-cli"
npm ERR! node v0.12.6
npm ERR! npm  v2.11.2
npm ERR! path /usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli
npm ERR! code EACCES
npm ERR! errno -13

npm ERR! Error: EACCES, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli'
npm ERR!     at Error (native)
npm ERR!  { [Error: EACCES, mkdir '/usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli']
npm ERR!   errno: -13,

i'll try sudo next it says try as admin... UG

what is concat? a lang?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:21

@BaldBantha admin normally = sudo... :(

idk what's wrong, i'll try to fix.

@BaldBantha @QPaysTaxes thanks for helping.

@QPaysTaxes D:

Bald Bantha

logged in as admin and trying again

Cyoce

What kinds of higher-order builtins can I implement to make recursion shorter? Right now I have to use the conditional operator and that gets really long really quickly. (Pretzel)

Bald Bantha

might be working!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

wait

oh yeah!!!

Bald Bantha

NO WARNINGS

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:23

also, if it doesn't work try running npm install grunt--save-dev and trying again.

@BaldBantha :DDDD

New Main Posts

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Q: Will the beam hit?

A laser shoots a straight beam in one of the four orthogonal directions, indicated by <>^v. Determine whether it will hit the target O on a rectangular grid. Each of these will hit (True): ..... ...O. ..... ...^. ..... >O. ... v.... O.... ........... ........... O.........< ........... T...

code-golf ascii-art

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

wait did it finish?

Bald Bantha

still loading though but it got through the part that gave warnings last time

you should get a raspberry pi

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I have one, but it's really old and doesn't really work anymore.

I learned python on it.

#randomactsofstarring

Bald Bantha

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ um get a new OS and it is fixed?

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I could take that wrong

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

17:26

?

@BaldBantha oh, cool.

Bald Bantha

taking forever, should I control C and see if it works?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no.

can you copy the current output?

Bald Bantha

/usr/local/bin/grunt -> /usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli/bin/grunt
[email protected] /usr/local/lib/node_modules/grunt-cli
├── [email protected]
├── [email protected] ([email protected])
├── [email protected]
└── [email protected] ([email protected])
Cloning into '/root/Cheddar'...
remote: Counting objects: 1203, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (69/69), done.
remote: Total 1203 (delta 23), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 1130
Receiving objects: 100% (1203/1203), 294.82 KiB, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (566/566), done.

mınxomaτ

@El'endiaStarman Spritz parses HTML with RegEx. Here's an excerpt from the source: pastebin.com/qmApN87s :D

Bald Bantha

still loading....

El'endia Starman

17:31

@mınxomaτ Ah-haha, nice. They're not trying to fully parse HTML in all its arbitrarily-nested glory though.

mınxomaτ

As far as I can tell they are trying to score the readability of the page by evaluating it's elements.

FryAmTheEggman

When you're so caught up in code golf you forget that ^ is a regex metacharacter...

Bálint

Hi

zyabin101

Hi

I'm puzzled over thinking of a dessert starting with N for the #NameAndroidN program.

@mınxomaτ N McNFace is not a dessert.

Geobits

It could be something nutty ;)

zyabin101

17:48

Nut Butter?

Poke

nougat

zyabin101

Good idea!

Optimizer

It can be Butnutty ;)

zyabin101

Submitted.

Optimizer

or Buttner

zyabin101

17:51

@Optimizer It can't.

@Optimizer ^

It must be a dessert, and it must start with N.

Optimizer

nutella

zyabin101

Can't use names of trade marks.

Optimizer

nice cream

Poke

KitKat isn't trade marked?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@BaldBantha huh...

It hits there, and pauses for 5 seconds on my machine. :(

Bald Bantha

17:54

still loading

zyabin101

@Poke It is, but I think people from Android signed a contract with Nestle.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ctrl-c, npm install grunt--save-dev, and try again?

Bald Bantha

kk

Optimizer

ohhh

Poke

ah yes they did

Optimizer

17:54

android N?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Android No.

Optimizer

Android Never

Poke

KitKat is weird though since in the US it's owned by Hershey but it's Nestle everywhere else

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