Wow, what chat room am I in again?

You guys really confused me

hahahaha

This is the one where the beta blue is bluer

@Rainbolt Programming Puzzles and Board Games

Danny Jessup took Infect to a first place finish at a StartCityGames tournament about a month ago: sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/…

No new sets have been released since then, so I imagine that the deck is still top tier.

that video is great

his password is 1234

"very simple"

I did a stupid.

@NathanMerrill If I could sum it up in one word, it would have to be "charisma"

@Rainbolt I'm not one of those "Detective Netdeck" people

You can tell because my Infect deck is blue/black

@DigitalTrauma What even is that end credits?

I thought someone was screaming in my house at first.

@MartinBüttner So, does retina.tryitonline.net automatically get the new version, meaning that old links won't work anymore?

Also, do we need to edit old Retina answers clarifying the specific version, since the might not work in the current version?

One thing, in the changelog, there's a grammatical mistake: "Transliteration: _ can now be used to deleted individual characters from matches."

Probably should split it up into retina.tryitonline and retina-new.tryitonline or something.

And in the wiki for the + option, it still says "see below" about Turing-Completeness, even though that's no longer at the bottom of the page.

@AquaTart Or retina.tryitonline/0-7-0 and retina.tryitonline/0-8-0

Version numbers help the user know which is which

idk

Up to @Dennis

@Vihan Since the TOS is a GoghBlock (which is a subclass on an array), it loops over each token in the block. If the block is a Frame (that's what operators are called in Gogh), it requests the operation, if it isn't a Frame, it just pushes the element to the stack.

@Vihan Fixed it.

g'dafternoon m8s

Hello

Are you australian?

no

lol

but i did see an australian 747 yesterday as we were taking off from the airport

//close enough

Where are you now?

And anymore feedback here?

am in florida

dupe

thanks @Doorknob

Why did he call it a "fingerprint"? 0_0

The older challenge seems to be more about string formatting than prime factorization.

Well there's also codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/667/3808

dupe-of-a-dupe seemed excessively roundabout though

@AquaTart I guess technically it does uniquely identify the given number >_>

True.

@Doorknob Which, unfortunately, also got closed as a dupe of that challenge.

Maybe a prime-factorization-catalog is in order? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nah

@MartinBüttner Also, "noce the entire group is completed." should say "once the entire group is completed."

@Dennis: That new answer to "Factorize me!!" ... *facepalm*

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll give him a few minutes to self-delete, then I'll nuke it from orbit.

Ah, the third delete vote may as well be mine. poof

Haha, nuke'd

@mbomb007 TIO is already updated (but not automatically. Dennis does that). there is versioning on TIO yet, but creating a new subdomain for every new version seems overkill. I guess once Dennis does add versioning he could let URLs without a version default to 0.7.3 so that the old links will then all work again.

retinb.tryitonline.net

Then the next version can be retinc.

...

For Japt, I used an optional ?v=<commit SHA> in the permalink

@TimmyD I say advance all the letters: sfujoc.tryitonline.net

retina.uszjupomjof.net

^

But registering 26 domain names would be a pain.

retina.tryitonline.ofu

@Nbsujo Cvuuofs Hi

@HelkaHomba Why not ... it worked for Microsoft with Exchange.

blogs.technet.com/b/exchange/archive/2006/08/08/3394690.aspx

Efoojt
Tq3000
Bmfy B.
Nbsujo Cvuuofs
Eppslopc
UjnnzE
FUIqspevdujpot
Ifmlb Ipncb
Dbmwjo't Ipccjft
Hfpcjut

Hehe. ^ find yourself

@HelkaHomba working on your rubiks cube challenge right now

I'm #7 on the list

Or #6, depending on if it's 0-indexed or not

s/Tq3000/Tq4111/

I'm not on the list, am I? ;-;

Sorry QijOpuQj

@HelkaHomba Looks like I'm not on there :P

@AquaTart Rvbsubub :D

@HelkaHomba ?pp???p? was a dead giveaway. :P

@HelkaHomba Now he goes by Brvb Ubsu

Ifmlb Ipncb

fml...

Hello @Gbubmjaf

brb, changing my name to UjnnzE

Hi @Gbubmjaf

Finally someone with a z in their username

It could be Gbubmj{f instead

I think I'll change my vtfsobnf to Dbftbs't Djqifsfs

@HelkaHomba Then you'd be Ifmlb!Ipncb

irb(main):001:0> 'Martin Büttner'.chars.map(&:next).join
=> "Nbsujo!Cýuuofs"

Works with the ü :P

I was trying to find U+xxxxxx LATIN SMALL LETTER V WITH DIAERESIS

I still don't understand why no one has yet answered this challenge by @HelkaHomba with the classic CJam/Pyth/Jelly

@Fatalize Nf ofjuifs. Tvsfmz fwfo b nfttz botxfs xpvme cf tipsufs uibo uif dvssfou poft.

hmmm... ok :x

Ɯɐɹtiu Bᴞtʇnəɻ

@Fatalize (Me neither. Surely even a messy answer would be shorter than the current ones.)

@HelkaHomba And it's not like this challenge was not viewed by most, it has almost 30 freaking upvotes

Wait, it does? That's not what I'm seeing.

I only see almost 30 regular upvotes. :P

Who knew there was such thing as U+1D1E Latin Small Letter Sideways Diaeresized U?

ᴞ

"Diaeresized" sounds like something different

@Doorknob When could ᴞ possibly be used? It's not like there's an entire sideways alphabet.

Oh right, as part of an emote. >:ᴞ

is that two pairs of eyes?

eyes, nostrils

then duck beak (maybe)

Oatmeal cookies, chocolate chip, or both?

both

My decision-making shortcut: if you can do both, do both.

Oatmeal Chocolate Chip cookies

@ETHproductions Spend 4 years in school or spend 4 years in prison?

There's not much of a difference in some places ...

@HelkaHomba 1) Check to see which option looks better. Choose that option. 2) If neither option looks better, do both.

In this case, my logic cuts out at step 1) with 4 years in school.

But with cookies, it's a much harder decision...

Oatmeal cookies made with some powdered peanut butter and chocolate chips

@HelkaHomba Hello, I'm [hbsc

@Zgarb Someone with a ~ in their name is going to have a rough time.

@TimmyD idk, in many places round the world people yearn for schools that don't exist

That's true, too

Though I know you were just making a joke :P

@Zgarb Ahbsc

Using letters makes it more pronounceable /s

Is running a brute-forcer that will freeze up my browser an acceptable way to force myself to work on something else? :P

@HelkaHomba It's pronounced "Brackethbsc".

@ETHproductions This message id has 666 in it. Maybe that will scare you off

...

TIL -- The ASCII digits 0-9 were arranged so they correspond to values in binary prefixed with 011

^^ now ASCII-Caesar-cipher that by 8

&&& ?

When we properly graduate will this room become The Twentieth Byte?

@TimmyD try -8 then

@ETHproductions Half-Life 3 confirmed.

@HelkaHomba that room might or might not already exist

Oh yeah. I vaguely recall that's the mod room or something.

Where I expect you guys all make fun of us ;-;

ha, look at that Helka Homba guy, all diamondless and stuff

oops wrong room

ಠ_ಠ

@Doorknob Hey. I bet I could have been voted a mod. The thing is I'd only want to try to prove it, not for the undoubted joy of moderating.

"Thanks for showing that you're all slaves to my whim by voting me moderator. Now screw it, I resign."

@flawr Whoa, synchronicity. The printer just next to me had some percussive maintenance done on it by a fellow engineer.

@Doorknob Just give us a taste. What's the most starred message in that room?

@HelkaHomba "Stop abusing stars!"

@MartinBüttner I wrote a five-char brute-forcer for the cat program, and it's come up with three: @_i?o (what I'm using), @i?o_ (a slight variation), and ?i^o@

Now to add more operators to the command list

caching ಠ_ಠ

How does the background on my website look? zachgates.com

Bad for people with slow internet

It's a bit noisy for my tastes, but I'm not a hiring manager

@HelkaHomba Just shrunk the image to 25% the size. Should load significantly faster

If I were a hiring manager I'd think you were vain

According to the current version of the brute-forcer, there's 84 possible 6-byte cat programs, but a bunch of these are identical except for one char that doesn't get run.

Feedback on a page I might use soon? (this isn't the real domain, just using c9 as a temporary host) (it's very short, I know, but future ideas will stem from this...)

I just wrote If they're there, then they're on their server and now I feel dirty.

wat

I was referencing a file-copy automated task.

That was a lot of their homonyms.

@CoolestVeto The first plus that I see is obvious: beautiful flower pics.

Yes.

my kind of book

Wow... I don't even understand how some of the programs that the brute forcer is coming up with actually work... O_o

The second plus is responsive design.

\o/

Now there's 5 5-byters

@CoolestVeto Scrolling in IE11 is very jittery. Nice and smooth in Chrome and Firefox, though.

@TimmyD IE is jittery anyway, though.

Heh.

@HelkaHomba haha

@HelkaHomba Better?

Well whaddaya know, there's 5-byte programs that use the input-everything-at-once command, otherwise known as A.

When people are political, just show them this:

kek

"SEMI-PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION"

When people downplay SQL-injection, just show them this:

hmm, now it's coming up with a couple programs that don't actually work...

@ETHproductions Perhaps somebody used SQL-injection on the Stack Exchange site, and it's broken all the answers.

@ETHproductions for example? :)

@MartinBüttner @Ao;?

Forever outputs U+FFFF on null bytes.

only works if input is non-empty

and that

yup

Brute-forcing again with the most recent version of the interpreter now...

Should I include the fact that I'm 16 in my CV?

16 lbs!

8.4 lbs to go

@ZachGates It depends on what you're applying for. You'll probably want to include it though, as still being in high school will affect the times that you can work.

It honestly depends on where you work. I worked at Subway for three years, and we had highschool students who worked well outside of the legally allowed times.

@ZachGates There are a lot of stricter laws regarding employing a minor, so it's definitely an area of concern.

Beyond that, age is a protected class, meaning that employers cannot discriminate your employment based on it ... but ... a lot of those discrimination scenarios don't apply or are applied differently when you're a minor.

@Martin The updated brute-forcer has disproved all 4 of the 5-byte solutions involving A.

The YMCA that I worked at before Subway, on the other hand, was very strict about hours for minors (during the school year). Maximum three hour shifts, maximum 18 hours per day, absolutely no later than 8:00 PM Sunday through Thursday.

@TimmyD Ah good point; hadn't thought about it from a legal standpoint

@Rainbolt 18 hours a day? Really?

whoops

18 hours per week*

Oh, OK

@ETHproductions One of his responsibilities was maintenance of the time machine

haha

Now I'm going to try a 6-byte program brute-forcer, which probably means I won't be responding to anything in here for 15 minutes

I may as well have been a lifeguard for 18 hours a day. I just stayed at the pool when I clocked out.

@Rainbolt When I worked at Kroger, they would schedule me for anywhere from 35-50 hours a week

@ZachGates Yeah. And a lot of those laws vary from state to state, and even between counties or cities. There are examples like Rainbolt said, but also possibly curfew laws, etc. It also depends upon the industry you're going into, as e.g., farming and hospitality tend to have different restrictions.

The thing is, what employee is going to complain to the labor board that they are getting too many hours? Probably not very many, unless you want to make yourself unhirable.

Hourly employee I mean. Of course salaried employees would complain about overtime.

Well, not that the employee would complain, but if The Authorities found out, there could be some hefty fines to the employer.

It's like serving beer to a 20-year-old in that regard.

That one doesn't onebox.

@AlphaGo: Don't become part of Randall's situation.

> Apparently investigating Pyth bugs improves golf scores.

@TimmyD Apparently investigating Pyth bugs makes it harder to parse the language.

^

Apparently getting braces hurts your teeth like fuck.

@Vihan: Merged PR

PR?

Pull Request

Pull Request

ninja'd

@ZachGates thanks, also, is there a reverse stack operator yet?

@Vihan Nope; not yet

For what langauge?

@EasterlyIrk Gogh

@Vihan: I created a room for Gogh discussion

Darn, Japt room is frozen :( Oh well, no one uses Japt anyway

Bruce Forte isn't done bruce-forting yet, so I switched browsers

@ETHproductions I used Japt

@Vihan Do you still use it?

@ETHproductions I said the same thing for Brachylog until @AquaTart started trying it a few days ago

Not really, but I barely post at all

I use Japt occasionally, but my focus is on other things right now (such as Cubix)

@Fatalize Yeah, I guess you never know

@ETHproductions @Doork or another mod would unfreeze it I bet

Yeah... I guess it would be nice to have it thawed, just in case someone needs it

.-.

@MartinBüttner thanks :)

@HelkaHomba you only need toe first 3 characters to ping right?

@Vih yes

yes, but he wants to call me dork :P

@Hel okay

My name works out nicely as @ETH

And Marky as @UNK

rofl

@Easy sometimes pings me.

Who's Easy?

Really? @Easy? I would think the y messes it up.

@EasterlyIrk At least you're not lyao anymore.

does anyone use Git Plus & Atom?

@ETH what is Bruce Forte brute forcing?

@Doorknob oh

ಠ_ಠ

@Vihan no.

@Vihan define use

i have it installed

use meaning know how to use

Atom yes, Git plus no.

And I don't use Atom much.

@Maltysen All possible 6-byte cat programs in my new language, Cubix. It's been running for about half an hour now.

cool

didcha find any?

It found 5 5-byte programs, but it waits until it's done to display the results, so I don't know how many 6-byte ones it has so far

Probably around 80.

is there a reason why you need all of the cat programs as opposed to one?

Not really, just looking for interesting techniques.

oh. how many commands are there?

Atom: Made by Github but no git support ._.

@Vihan it does auto diffs

yeah but it about ends there

and colors the tree for you

Git Plus doesn't seem to work

@Maltysen it's brute-forcing about 18 different commands

so 18^6 = roughly 32e6 programs.

nevermind it was, I forgot to fetch upstream...

@ETHproductions how quick does it do them? 1k/sec?

that's still 9 hrs

@Maltysen It did 20^5 in somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes

oh that's fast

So it should take... an hour or two, I guess.

45 minutes minimum

how do you check validity?

@ETHproductions Have a link to Cubix?

@Maltysen Run it with input H\0! and check that the output is the same

what about looping things?

or did u not include those commands

Wolfram is doing golfing

@TimmyD That's been around for quite a while.

Some cool stuff there though

Well, then I'm one of today's 10,000.

@TimmyD i think martin used one of those for "his tell us about your language" answer

wolfram has a pokedex o_O