The Nineteenth Byte

Zach Gates

04:00

"uneval"? haha what

Aqua Tart

Representation

Zach Gates

I know what repr is. Just never heard "uneval"

Aqua Tart

repr in Python I think

Vihan

javascript uses uneval

Aqua Tart

ninjad

GolfScript calls it uneval in the docs

Alex A.

04:01

How many languages have an equivalent of deparse(substitute(x)) in R? x can be defined or undefined and the result will always be the name of whatever was passed, so in this case it would return "x".

Dennis

@AquaTart It does?

@ZachGates You clearly haven't read Jelly's source code then.

Zach Gates

I have not

Dennis

@Vihan Great, now I feel dirty.

Vihan

@AlexA. what's wrong with writing "x"?

@Dennis ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Alex A.

@Vihan Nothing. But deparse(substitute()) is useful when you're getting the name of a variable passed to a function, for example.

Vihan

04:02

@Dennis are you working on Jelly docs?

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Q: The Bridge and Torch Problem

The inspiration for this code golf puzzle is from the Bridge and Torch problem, in which there are multiple people at the start of a bridge who must all cross it in the least amount of time. The catch is that at most only two people can cross at once, otherwise the bridge will crush under their ...

code-golf

Zach Gates

x for "execute" looks good

Vihan

@AlexA. I don't see how that could be useful though....

Alex A.

It's used all the time in R.

Zach Gates

@Dennis You should start a GitHub Wiki for Jelly. I'd read that

Dennis

04:03

@ZachGates github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/wiki

Aqua Tart

There is one

Alex A.

@Vihan For example, in the plot function, the axes are automatically labeled with the names of the variables passed.

Dennis

Not my work, but it's there.

Vihan

@AlexA. oh okay

Aqua Tart

Yeah Lynn made it

some good stuff in there

Zach Gates

04:04

Whoops

Dennis

@Vihan Lynn's tutorial is quite comprehensive, and there's a list of atoms. I only have to compile a list of quicks, and I'm pretty much done.

Alex A.

Is that level of introspection common in other languages? That is, can you get the name of a variable passed to a function from within the function?

Aqua Tart

Knowing J first helps a lot though

Alex A.

#1 barrier between me and Jelly: I can't type it.

Vihan

@AlexA. JavaScript has Proxy and some new reflection stuff which let you do that with some hacks

Zach Gates

04:06

@AlexA. It's possible with some effort in Python

Alex A.

lel at "hacks" and "effort"

Quill

it's not really necessary to know the "names" of your parameters' source variables in most languages

Zach Gates

@AlexA. lel at you

Aqua Tart

@AlexA. There are two Jelly (software) keyboards that I am aware of

Alex A.

@Quill Sure, I was just wondering which can do it.

@ZachGates I got rekt

Aqua Tart

04:08

@Dennis really should pull a Dyalog and sell physical Jelly keyboards though.

Alex A.

@AquaTart Jell-A and Jell-O?

Vihan

A reason JavaScript is the best: ಠ_ಠ is a valid property name

Alex A.

It is in Julia and R as well

Aqua Tart

and Java

Zach Gates

and Python

Vihan

04:09

@AquaTart just print out the characters and tape it to your keyboard. and set up a key remap thing

@ZachGates wait realy???

Zach Gates

@Vihan ಠ_ಠ = NotImplemented

Try it

Vihan

  File "<stdin>", line 1
    ಠ_ಠ = 1
    ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Zach Gates

Python 3?

Quill

I read this interesting blog post about using hasOwnProperty in objects

Vihan

:|

I am running out of reasons to support JavaScript...

Alex A.

04:10

You had any to begin with?

Vihan

ಠ_ಠ

yes, see above

> "Python" > "JavaScript"
< true

._.

Quill

@AlexA. meh. something something job security

Aqua Tart

JavaScript had some good design ideas. That streak sadly ended when it came time to design scopes

Vihan

@AquaTart that's been fixed with let

Alex A.

> JavaScript had some good design ideas.

hahahahaha

Vihan

04:12

ಠ_ಠ

Aqua Tart

Fun fact: JS was literally created in 2 weeks

Alex A.

It shows

Zach Gates

HA, rekt

Quill

lets not insult languages

Aqua Tart

@AlexA. I kinda like the way they handle functions. Boy, did they screw everything else up though.

Dennis

04:13

Alex A.

@Quill Nah, we totally should.

@Dennis hau

Quill

insulting languages only ends up insulting userbases using those languages, and isolating those who don't fit your outlook of preference

Aqua Tart

> U.S.

Vihan

@AlexA. hau?

Aqua Tart

> guillemet

Alex A.

04:14

@Dennis Wait, this is just the Option key

Dennis

@AlexA. By pressing weird waterslide thingie, apparently.

Or Option key.

Alex A.

Weird waterslide thingy is best waterslide thingy

Aqua Tart

I always wondered what the option key was supposed to look like.

Alex A.

Options

Vihan

@AquaTart see this link

Dennis

04:16

@AquaTart I'm 99% sure it's a waterslide.

Vihan

it looks more like an escalator if anything

Aqua Tart

@Dennis Makes sense now that I look at it

Vihan

Aqua Tart

Oh, cool. TIL Java actually supports cp437 as an encoding.

Doorknob

llama@llama:~$ pyth -c '.(c`rRvh`.!.nZ.MlZ.u+NY@LGjs-vPP`/v.O.Hl^G4yl.dtsP_OZ+syyll.dslllG@ss`M@^St.PF.DlGuyGl`NlNev_`*FhMr.B*F+BTNyyylN_iF.e`W!kb_*BhTtTl.nlCBN.Ey*.n~hZ.nZkCvjk%=hZ*LNS=Nh~tZZ'
Doorknob

WHAT HAVE I DONE

Vihan

04:21

O_o

Dennis

@Doorknob -1 no potato

Vihan

@Doorknob looks like you've written a perl program but you're running it with the pyth interpreter

Dennis

Way too many letters for Perl.

Aqua Tart

I still don't understand why Perl is such a popular target for language bashing

Here that is

Vihan

@AquaTart because it's syntax looks like a half-random assortment of ASCII characters?

Aqua Tart

04:25

@Vihan What about it

OK sure golfed Perl does

Dennis

@AquaTart Because it's utterly unreadable for people that didn't learn it. When you look at Python code, even if you don't know Python, you usually have a pretty good idea what it does. That's not true with Perl.

Doorknob

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 29 at 0:48, by tchrist

@Doorknob Seriously, I enjoy probing questions from talented learners of perl. My company has about two million lines of perl in production.

re: Perl and maintainability

Aqua Tart

I always thought it as decently readable but that's probably because it was burned into my brain at a young age

Zach Gates

@Vihan: You can now execute code blocks on the stack with x

Vihan

@ZachGates :D cool

Alex A.

04:28

@Doorknob I feel so bad for them. I made the mistake of putting Perl code into production at work and ended up translating it to Python once requirements changed and the scripts had to be modified.

Aqua Tart

Python is more readable for sure

Vihan

python is like the most readable language, I don't think it's fair to compare it to perl

Zach Gates

@Vihan I'm going to implement an operator to execute code blocks in a new stack, and then the operator you suggested

Vihan

I don't think you can make python unreadable

Doorknob

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 29 at 0:50, by tchrist

And those are as far removed from what you think of as bad-programmer perl as storm-battered sheaves of wheat are from a luxuriant Viennese pastry, or random paint splatters are from a Renaissance masterpiece.

tchrist has a way with words :P

Alex A.

04:30

I don't know what he means but it was quite poetic

Doorknob

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Feb 29 at 0:39, by tchrist

All great cathedrals have their flying buttresses and their gargouilles, their crypt and their mystery.

Aqua Tart

@AlexA. I guess I can see the issue here. You can do production code in python and get away with only understanding it partially. You have to really really know Perl to use it in production correctly

I don't conider that a bad thing

Alex A.

For a while I really knew Perl. I had been using it in production for a few years. My mistake was choosing it for a new system.

Vihan

@ZachGates you should add a command line option which prints the entire stack, that'd be useful for debugging programs

Aqua Tart

Honestly the only proper way to learn Perl is the Camel Book imo

Vihan

04:34

Camel Book?

Aqua Tart

It's just too intricate to be picked up by SO snippets and bad web tutorials

Zach Gates

You're right. I've been thinking it, but keep getting distracted. :P You're more than welcome to open a PR

Alex A.

I have O'Reilly's Perl in a Nutshell

Is that the camel book?

Aqua Tart

@Vihan O'Reilly's Programming Perl. Larry Wall actually wrote it

Vihan

Larry wall?

Aqua Tart

04:35

It's usually called the camel book or the camel bible

@Vihan creator of Perl

Vihan

oh okay

@ZachGates any idea why {Ø}x doesn't work?

Zach Gates

@Vihan Damn, yes. Will fix

@Vihan It's because of this

Vihan

@ZachGates I'm sorry but I don't know python so I don't know what any of that code does :|

Zach Gates

@Vihan Splits the code at that operator, regardless of whether it's in a string, block, etc. I messed it up; will fix

Vihan

ah, okay.

Zach Gates

04:43

@Vihan Actually, no. I disabled loops within code blocks

Vihan

so I'll have to find a workaround, then :/

Zach Gates

@Vihan I'll re-allow it. I think I just disallowed it for my benefit. I forgot haha

Vihan

What's a GoghObject?

Zach Gates

@Vihan The base class for my custom strings, integers, floats, arrays, and code blocks

Vihan

okay

Zach Gates

04:50

i.e. GoghString, GoghBlock, etc.

Alex A.

GoghPher

Zach Gates

That would be a good pun if "Gogh" were pronounced "Go" ):

Geobits

Classes should be named after subject matter. Sunflowers, etc.

Zach Gates

It's a shame it isn't, really. There's not many "Gah" puns

Alex A.

It isn't? I thought it was like Van Gogh.

Vihan

04:51

am I doing this right?

@Planner.toapprove
def _if_exec(self, ttots, stos, tos):

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Gogh is pronounced "Gah" with a guttural sound

Geobits

@AlexA. Most people pronounce that wrong.

Alex A.

@Vihan Unindent your second line

Vihan

it isn't, I don't know why SE did that

Zach Gates

Is that third-top-of-stack?

Alex A.

04:52

@Geobits My life is a lie

Vihan

@ZachGates yeah, I am getting two code blocks and the TOS

Geobits

@AlexA. We knew that ;)

Zach Gates

@Vihan Yeah, that's right. Don't forget to modify the storage globals

Alex A.

@Geobits ;-;

Vihan

@ZachGates yup, I think I did that right

Zach Gates

04:53

Nice!

Geobits

@AlexA. I know that's supposed to be a cry-face, but I always see a jowly, beady eyed little man instead.

Quill

@ZachGates GoghdDamnIt

2

Vihan

so isinstance(ttos, Frame) checks if the ttos is a code block?

Alex A.

@Geobits Perhaps like how Peter sees ಠ_ಠ as an owl.

Zach Gates

@Vihan Yep. You could also use ttos._is(Frame) (I made a builtin method _is for all GoghObjects)

Geobits

04:54

@AlexA. I see that one as a crying baby, soo... :P

Vihan

okay, I'm taking my reference code from here:

@Planner.toapprove
def _execute_instack(self, tos):
    for block in tos:
        if isinstance(block, Frame):
            self._request(block)
        else:
            self._push(block)

Alex A.

@Geobits Oooooooh, wrecked.

Geobits

Correctly spelled wrecked? Wait, is that good or bad?

Vihan

@ZachGates what does the for block in tos and self._request(block) do?

Quill

for (var block in tos)

that's the js equal

Vihan

04:56

well I know that much

Alex A.

@Geobits Yu deside

Quill

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Q: Worldbuilding Site Design Updates: March 15

Thank you for all of your feedback and patience while we made design updates. Below are a list of updates and planned updates. Logo Based on the community's discussion, we've made some adjustments to the logo: we added a halo, saturated the colors a bit more, and made the world a bit larger...

discussion featured design

Geobits

WB is graduated? And it was in November? Huh.

Vihan

Forget about our design, I'm still waiting for out Community Ads...

Geobits

I know... I want to see how the voting goes on the sandbox bully :D

Quill

05:00

;-;

downvote in advance

Geobits

That's okay. I try not to take downvotes personally ;)

Vihan

Feb 26 at 6:24, by Geobits

that one?

haha

Quill

I just think that isn't really friendly towards new users

Geobits

Not that exact one. Different text.

I have a few versions on my desktop at home.

Doorknob

ohhh, I thought "bully" was an abbreviation for "bulletin," as in "community bulletin," the sidebar thing...

that makes a lot more sense

Quill

05:02

nice work

Geobits

I didn't draw it. PD clipart for life.

Quill

"the community bully is helpful"

I thought it was Police Department clipart

Vihan

(removed)

Mama Fun Roll

github.com/molarmanful/RETURN/blob/gh-pages/README.md

Y'all should learn RETURN!

I updated the README commands and added some examples.

Vihan

@MamaFunRoll does it do basic arithmetic?

Quill

05:22

jsfiddle.net/gsdzc4ov

zyabin101 the Hated

06:32

Thanks anonymous bold text

You're welcome...

After a power outage at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, the new Digital Doomsday Clock is flashing 00:00 and mushroom clouds keep appearing and then retracting once a second.

Mars Ultor

@Quill 0/10 bad cross-browser support. FTFY

Quill

nice

Mars Ultor

IDK what Chrome uses, so put appearance there just in case.

Wait a sec, Chrome uses -webkit, so appearance is there so it still works when it is standardized. (probably never)

zyabin101 the Hated

07:07

We should have a hub with comprehesive info on the builtins and tips for golfing in all golfing languages in the region.

I call it the golfdocs.

Look, a random person - P. Maxime - is pretending to be my Mystery Man avatar's brother. But his avatar is a bit different.

Here is the actual Mystery Man avatar, for reference:

gravatar.com/avatar/…

Mars Ultor

@zyabin101theHated Apparently there's no point/people don't want one, because searching [tips] is a lot easier.

zyabin101 the Hated

@MarsUltor Builtin information is often a bit succinct. Just a command and what it does, with no usage examples. Golfdocs will provide usage examples.

Mars Ultor

@zyabin101theHated Golfdocs = [tips] in PPCG.SE search bar

zyabin101 the Hated

Some languages may also provide transpilations to other languages, and they'll be provided.

@MarsUltor But the tips tag is about tips for golfing, it does not include information about builtins. Golfdocs will provide both tips and builtins.

Mars Ultor

@zyabin101theHated Well, sure, if you can get everyone else to agree.

zyabin101 the Hated

07:21

One positive argument is that everyone can edit the docs, because they will be hosted on GitHub! :)

You just send a pull request, and the review team will check it and possibly merge the pull request!

Mars Ultor

@zyabin101theHated I know, but I tried that a few weeks ago, and everyone said there's no point

Martin Büttner

08:29

@randomra By 2=%, so you mean applying the stage only to the second line? That's an interesting idea but not good it works at the moment. Limits don't interact with per-line mode at this point, so that configuration would mean something like only processing the second match in each line.

trichoplax

08:58

@MartinBüttner Wow - that's comprehensive!

zyabin101 the Hated

09:37

@MarsUltor Link?

Mars Ultor

10:12

Feb 20 at 6:42, by somebody

i have no idea how to make http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tips into a github pages + jekyll repo

Katenkyo

Why would you want to export those tips? They have their place right here ^^

Mars Ultor

I know

Yay, first push in ages

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Still haven't done the first push for my esolang :D (I'm lazy...)

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo Your esolang? (Also, that isn't an esolang)

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor A tape-language using a lua table as a tape (each index can contain either a string/number/table or function ^^) (also, I know, but made me think of esolangs :p)

Mars Ultor

10:21

@Katenkyo Named?

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Taple

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo Taple looks like Staple

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Well, I can't find an other name ^^'

Also, you only can print/play with the tape actually, so it's still a work in progress ^^

Katenkyo

10:35

(also, the tape is self referencing, one more thing I have trouble to make bug-free D:)

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo Then maybe you should use cloud9?

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Wouldn't it be overkill for a simple esolang...?

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo Well, Eridan @ANe is using it for his esolang.

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Didn't know, I think I'll just stick with dev'ing on a my comp/using local git etc until it's done

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo BTW, where do you live? All the Americans are usually asleep now.

Katenkyo

10:45

@MarsUltor I'm living in France, not far from Nice. And you?

(You might already have said it to me, but forgot...)

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo Brisbane, Australia

So that's two people in Europe, two in Australia, and the rest are in America apparently.

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Would love living in Australia for 1/2 years ^^

Mars Ultor

½? Why so specific?

Katenkyo

Because I would also like to do the same thing in America/Canada/Japan and maybe some other places

Oh, found a way to rape the object-part of lua for Taple!

Table, numbers, and string will now inherit each other methods (performing a string.find one a number for instance :D)

randomra

11:16

@MartinBüttner I mean the version, how it works now: e.g. remove from every list the second element, although it is doable with retina 7 too, but I see potential in the way limits and % work now

Quill

@MarsUltor make that three in Australia :D

Mars Ultor

@Quill But I was counting you as the seoncd.

Quill

I smelt the word Australia through TCP/IP

@MarsUltor oh, right

I thought there was someone else in here

Mars Ultor

Also, I'm judging based on activity charts on the info page

Quill

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Q: Query to find users from Australia

After a discussion of which users were from Australia, I wrote my first SQL query to find out: SELECT u.DisplayName'Display Name', u.Reputation'Rep', u.Location'Location' FROM Users u WHERE u.Location LIKE '%Australia%' ORDER BY 'Rep' DESC As always, please tell me the good, the bad, and the u...

sql stackexchange

Mars Ultor

11:27

Query SEDE online!

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Q: Seem to concatenate two strings

I've been having fun obfuscating my code lately, but my tricks are getting old. Your goal is to make a program that takes two strings from STDIN, separated by a newline, or you may take them as function parameters(whichever works best for you) and you have to appear to concatenate them and return...

string popularity-contest underhanded

Mars Ultor

TIL Sp3000 and grc are from Australia, apparently

grc

^ true story

Mars Ultor

Better query, limits minimum rep to 102

@grc You went out of lurk mode just to say that?

grc

I had just got home and was checking tabs

re-enters lurk mode

Quill

12:06

grc is psychic

grc

I have a bot that pings me when I am mentioned on the interwebs

Mars Ultor

@grc Really?

grc

no :(

Stewie Griffin

12:20

I'm working on a challenge here, and I'm trying to come up with a word for a very simple geometric shape: Is there a simple descriptive word for a room made up of two or more rectangles (the simplest being a L-shaped room)? I'm looking for a word you would use in day to day speach, not in a math assignment.

Compound shaped room doesn't have a nice ring to it.

Katenkyo

@StewieGriffin I don't think such a word exists...

Mars Ultor

@StewieGriffin Not sure if polyomino fits the requirements.

grc

I'm sure EL&U will have a word for you

Mars Ultor

^

Stewie Griffin

@grc, good idea =)

Katenkyo

12:31

hum... my regex wasn't working when it was [+-*/%%] (where % is the escape character), but works with [+-/*%%]

grc

\-

Stewie Griffin

@MarsUltor it describes the shape quite well, but it's a bit technical...

Mars Ultor

@Katenkyo @Kat escape the -

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor it is actually working with [+-/*%%], it's just that I don't get what's the difference...

grc

- does character ranges in []

Mars Ultor

12:34

@Katenkyo It's not. It's matching all the characters from + to /. (which is a bad idea.)

@grc Stop golfing your replies ಠ_ಠ

grc

.

Mars Ultor

@grc Matched

Katenkyo

@MarsUltor Oh, forgot that point x).

Corrected in [+%-/*%%] to not have any troubles again :)

Rainbolt

13:01

Quick question for the mods: is this policy described here specific to PPCG, or does it apply to all sites?

orlp

anyone here plays go or willing to learn?

Rainbolt

I'm willing to learn (I hope you don't mean right now because I'm at work)

orlp

I kinda did mean right now :P

but later could be cool too, but might be busy then

Rainbolt

I keep hearing about how intellectual you have to be to play, and so I want to give it a spin. I want to feel superior too.

(I.e., some of the Go players on BCG are kinda arrogant)

I think some people took "Go is harder for a computer to solve than Chess is." and translated that to "Humans who excel at Go are smarter than humans who excel at Chess."

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Q: Repdigit Base Finding

A repdigit is a natural number that can be written solely by repeating the same digit. For example, 777 is a repdigit, since it's solely composed of the digit 7 repeated three times. This isn't limited to simply decimal (base 10) numbers, however: Every Mersenne number (of the form Mn = 2n-1) ...

code-golf base-conversion

Rainbolt

13:09

Oh man...

orlp

@Rainbolt go has a much bigger gametree

both are unfeasibly large to explore for a human

furthermore, someone who excels at something is better than their peers

unless go universally has smarter people, excelling at either should mean the same

New Main Posts

13:25

2

Q: Build a simple room in ASCII-art

A room can be made up of connected rectangles, for instance an L-shaped room. Such a room can be described by a list of dimensions describing the size of each rectangle. Assume you have two input lists. The first contains the width of rectangles stacked vertically over each other. The second co...

code-golf ascii-art

Ashwin Gupta

13:42

anyone in here?

Mars Ultor

Yes

Ashwin Gupta

Oh hi

TimmyD

No

Ashwin Gupta

thanks Timmy.

Don't you guys get bored of ASCII art challenges?

honestly there are SOOOO many its ridiculous..

TimmyD

There have been a significant number this year.

There are more string and math challenges, though.

Ashwin Gupta

13:51

True

But string/math have more room for variation.

TimmyD

14:10

That was their decision procedure. What actually happened was that the 90km astronaut shot the others dead and left them piled the starting point. He then calmly walked off, finishing over 90km away. The size of the asteroid part is a red herring. — Hugh Meyers 23 hours ago

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Reverse an N-Dimensional array code-golf Given an array (or list), containing integers, of n-dimensions, output an n-dimension array with all sub-elements reversed. That is, reverse all elements of the deepest list, then the second deepest, etc. Example: [[[ 1, 2, 3], [ 4, 5, 6], [ 7, 8, 9]],...

Katenkyo

@NewSandboxedPosts Wow, horrible recursion

ETHproductions

14:42

@MartinBüttner I found a 5-byte cat program! \o/ codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/75597/42545

Martin Büttner

15:03

Ah nice job. That was sort of what I was looking for yesterday, but it didn't occur to me to use _ mirror. :)

@i?o_ should also work I guess

TimmyD

Is there historical precedence for using @ as the "terminate execution symbol," or is it just the one that's usually chosen?

It seems to come up often.

Zgarb

@TimmyD Befunge seems to use it.

orlp

@TimmyD usually $ is chosen as termination symbol in various CS contexts

Nathan Merrill

have any of you played pandemic:legacy?

TimmyD

@Zgarb That makes sense. A lot of 2D esolangs take some inspiration from Befunge.

Nathan Merrill

15:11

@TimmyD it looks like a black hole

which existed long before earth

so, yes, quite a bit of historical precedence

TimmyD

:D

Nathan Merrill

15:34

xkcd alert: xkcd.com

there's also a new what-if, but it isn't as good this week :(

Martin Büttner

@TimmyD that's where I took it from for Lab and Hex

Nathan Merrill

although seriously: do any of you play board/card games?

Aqua Tart

@NathanMerrill I play MTG and bridge (though I don't play either as much as I used to).

Never been much of a board game person though.

Nathan Merrill

I don't like MTG, as its PTW

though I do like bridge :)

TimmyD

@NathanMerrill I played MTG quite a lot back in the late 90s, not so much anymore. The wife's family is big into cards, so nearly any sort of family gathering turns into a cribbage or whist or hearts or ... tournament. Friends and I also thoroughly enjoy various board games and routinely play.

Nathan Merrill

15:47

what's tournament?

TimmyD

As in a "hearts tournament" or a "whist tournament"

Nathan Merrill

ah

TimmyD

or a "fill-in-the-blank tournament"

Those seem to be the popular ones, though.

Nathan Merrill

so, hearts plays to 100 points, so play multiple 100 point games?

those are pretty long tourneys :P

TimmyD

Yes. Swapping tables between games. They have a whole system worked out, so that player 3 is partnered with player 7 and sit at table D for game 4, etc.

So, yes, we've played 10-hour whist tournaments over e.g. Christmas.

Aqua Tart

15:52

@NathanMerrill I've always hated Standard, but Modern, Legacy and Commander can be quite a bit of fun

Most of my decks are Legacy decks because most of my cards are pretty old

TimmyD

Recently, I was introduced to 7 Wonders, and have really been enjoying that.

Aqua Tart

I've been trying to branch out into some more modern metas

@TimmyD ooh wus dis

TimmyD

@AquaTart boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/68448/7-wonders

Kevin W.

@AquaTart I'd stay away from modern for now - It's in a truly terrible state

Aqua Tart

@KevinW. I have played Modern.

Nathan Merrill

15:54

@TimmyD I got that game a couple of years ago, but since I stomped the first couple of games, nobody will play me

Aqua Tart

I've been slowly trying to convert all of my decks to Modern

That way I can actually play at FNM instead of just watching

The one thing I can't convert is my Infect deck which sucks

TimmyD

@AquaTart If you've ever done a MTG booster draft, it's that crossed with a civilization-building theme, but you play the cards immediately.

Kevin W.

Infect is a pretty viable modern deck though

Aqua Tart

@KevinW. Mine has Endless Scream which is basically a strictly better Howl From Beyond, but it wasn't reprinted

@TimmyD Hmm

The one deck that I would like to convert but have been too lazy to is Ornithopter

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