The Nineteenth Byte

Anonymous

00:00

HQ9+ would be writing "Hello World!" on the walls in crayon over and over and over...

flawr

Uhm no.

It would sing.

Zgarb

Malbolge made a deal with the devil long ago, and has only spoken in tongues ever since.

2

undergroundmonorail

golfscript: "did you know pyth has a variable that just holds the entire alphabet? these fuuUUucking kids don't appreciate the spirit of golfing anymore. why, back in my day..."

4

flawr

A goddamn annoying song.

Alex A.

> fuuUUucking

flawr

00:01

@undergroundmonorail ... before golfing was cool.

undergroundmonorail

i said it as a joke but now that i'm thinking about it i really like drunk bitter uncle golfscript

2

Cyoce

@undergroundmonorail that's how platypar lost the pangram challenge. I had to type all 5 characters of 'a'z_

undergroundmonorail

@AlexA. i meant it as a rick-from-rick-and-morty-style belch

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm for sure doing Jelly, MATL, Pyth, CJam, Hexagony, Javagony, Vitsy, Minkolang, Jolf, Japt, Teascript 1 2 and 3 (triplets), Seriously, HQ9+, ><>, and Befunge, maybe Simplex.

Alex A.

@undergroundmonorail Oh jeez, Rick.

flawr

00:01

What is MATL?

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ simplex? nepotism

undergroundmonorail

pyth is to python as matl is to matlab, i believe

matl is much younger though

Alex A.

@flawr Matriarchal Animal Town Land

undergroundmonorail

it hasn't had as much time to mature

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Cyoce :3

Eridan

00:02

Java is that old grandmother who keeps talking on and on before finally getting to the point and saying something of importance

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What do you have against Seriously? :P

undergroundmonorail

@Eridan my favourite esoteric language: java

4

flawr

@Mego Too serious.

Alex A.

At this point I think Pyth has diverged from Python far more than MATL has diverged from Matlab.

Anonymous

It predates over half of the langs on that list :P

flawr

00:03

@AlexA. Not sure.

undergroundmonorail

@AlexA. that's why i made sure to point out how much younger matl is. when pyth was matl's age is was a lot more python-like

Alex A.

Right.

Since Matlab is already such a capable language, I personally don't envision MATL diverging that much from it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Order by length of divergence from parent language, ascending: MATL, Pyth, Jolf, (Timtechs TI-BASIC golfing lang)

undergroundmonorail

oh man for the esoteric language family i just had a good idea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

tell me :D

flawr

00:06

There should be some kind of esotheric genealogy.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@flawr Also coming.

Eridan

In the beginning, there was binary

undergroundmonorail

a character who always brags about how good they are at stuff but is always "too busy" to prove it. people ask them to show that they can do something, anything, but they always have an excuse to get out of it

GTB

Eridan

Everything changed when the programming languages attacked

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Eridan AVATAR FOR THE WIN

@undergroundmonorail ??

Alex A.

00:07

Great The Britain

Eridan

That is literally the only thing I know about Avatar :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh. :(

flawr

@AlexA. Matlab is not really that capable, it is just good for one thing...=)

Cyoce

avatar is amazing

if you haven't watched it-

Eridan

There's a better quote from the first episode of SnK, let me find it...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:07

^^

Cyoce

drop everything and watch it now

Alex A.

@Cyoce The movie? The special effects were nice but the story was absolute trash.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

The new one sucks though

Cyoce

@AlexA. the show obviously. we don't talk about the movie....

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Avatar the last airbender

Alex A.

00:08

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh. I don't know what that is.

Eridan

What Avatar movie?

Alex A.

The one with the blue people

trichoplax

@Eridan Pretend you didn't hear there was one

Alex A.

James Cameron or someone like that directed it

@flawr It's super capable for scientific applications. Though I would see no other reason to use it. :P

Eridan

(I watched the movie on a school field trip and it was the second-worst movie field trip I'd ever had - The Lightning Thief in case you're wondering)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:09

The Lightning Thief was okay.

Eridan

The premise was stupid

undergroundmonorail

there's a user on this site who used to post a lot of answers in a language called GTB. in theory, it was a literal translation of TI-BASIC. it just did some text substitutions and became TI-BASIC. the problem was that there was no compiler anywhere on the internet, the spec was inconsistent, when the user did mention the TI-BASIC that it was equivalent to it was invariably a wrong answer for the challenge, and they once said "here's the source code for the compiler"... in another language no one could ever find a compiler for.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yeah.

Cyoce

@Eridan yeah lightning thief was trash. It didn't do justice to the books at all. the sequel movie wasn't all that bad though

flawr

@AlexA. Super capable as a playground for people who have no idea about programming.

It isn't really fast.

Eridan

00:10

The whole thing was about Percy's mom sacrificing herself, not Grover getting left behind to have sex with Persephone

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail XD

flawr

Well then, good night everyone

undergroundmonorail

'night

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@flawr bai!

Eridan

The end fight also has about a dozen physics breaks in a minute, including and especially the survival of a fall of the top of the motherfrickfracking Empire State Building onto water

That movie upset me greatly

Alex A.

00:12

@flawr Good night!

undergroundmonorail

@Eridan i agree that the movie was hot trash but it's not like a:tla was hard scifi

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Eridan Poseidon protected him?¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Did you read the books?

undergroundmonorail

wait

flawr

Bo & Matthew Sneak into a Movie Theatre

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Eridan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Luke, not Percy

undergroundmonorail

00:13

i don't think we're talking about avatar any more

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Eridan Oh, I forgot.

Eridan

Percy's monumental fall came in the 4th book from the volcano.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Eridan oh yeah

RikerW

Anybody know how to set up SPL?

Like install it or whatever is needed to make it work.

ie I can do spl2c file.spl

Oh @Eridan you changed your name back? cool.

undergroundmonorail

didn't they change it back a month ago today

RikerW

00:20

what?

undergroundmonorail

maybe i'm thinking of someone else

RikerW

what????

I am totally confused.

BTW, you have a lot of ranty monologues @undergroundmonorail on the starboard right now...

undergroundmonorail

;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

3

Cyoce

umm

undergroundmonorail

00:25

that's what happens when you try to enthusiastically say a very very swedish greeting

i don't know how popular that video is so if even one of you gets that reference i'll be happy

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Sorry, I don't know it.

undergroundmonorail

Programming - Why Haskell is Great - 10 minutes

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funny video but also pretty interesting. it inspired my first attempt to learn haskell

wait, hold on. i took a closer look at that gif

conor, how would you say you feel about

capture the flag games

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

LOVE IT

Why?

undergroundmonorail

i can't think of another context for "Alright, we need re"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

X3 you got it

Except re is a python module

undergroundmonorail

00:30

ahh i get it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Double-meanings ftw tho right?

undergroundmonorail

^

did you ever do *LTP

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail I don't think so?

undergroundmonorail

i just meant

NLTP, MLTP, OLTP if you're in europe

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, I'm american.

undergroundmonorail

00:32

but you would have had to sign up so i guess not :P

wait, OLTP is australia region

europe is ELTP

it's been a while

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

so what is it?

undergroundmonorail

competitive leagues for tagpro

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o sounds cool

undergroundmonorail

MLTP is major league, they're the bigshot players who are like

actually good

i did a couple seasons of NLTP which is "novice league tagpro". it's not impressive at all because if you sign up for the NLTP draft you are guaranteed to get onto a team :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh lol

undergroundmonorail

00:37

i found some footage of me playing but it's footage of me during a game when i played poorly so i'm finding a different one

RikerW

Paste this into your console: window.open("http://bit.ly/IqT6zt","_parent")

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

No.

RikerW

Aw.

Pls?

undergroundmonorail

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ look i was okay at tagpro two years ago youtu.be/JqQIeAGI-n8

RikerW

This?

TagPro

TagPro is a free-to-play online multiplayer capture the flag video game originally designed and programmed by Nick Riggs. The first version was released in February 2013, after Riggs began experimenting with software platform Node.js. The game is named after one of its three obtainable power-ups. It follows the basic rules of capture the flag, along with some modifications, including power-ups, spikes, and other map elements. == Gameplay == Players spawn in red and blue teams on opposite sides of a map. Each team consists of up to four players, for a maximum total of eight players per game. The...

undergroundmonorail

00:43

^

RikerW

Cool.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@undergroundmonorail whoa!

Alright, we need re.
Start a function hello_world.
Breathe.
Return "Hello, World!".
Backtracking.
Listen.
Invoke hello_world.
That's the point.

Hello, World, ish.

undergroundmonorail

there used to be a video of me defending base solo for like 15 seconds while my defensive partner was off getting a powerup or something but i think it's been deleted

RikerW

Okay.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ New esolang?

undergroundmonorail

it was sick though the commentators were like "wooah monorail n1"

RikerW

00:44

About paranoid people?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW Yeah!

@RikerW "Oration"

RikerW

About paranoid cowardly people?

undergroundmonorail

oh shit i forgot about this

watch our flag carrier thirsty at 9:05 or so

RikerW

What?

undergroundmonorail

haha

RikerW

00:45

This?

This then?

What about this?

undergroundmonorail

er, not thirsty

RikerW

GIMME THE VIDEO pls.

undergroundmonorail

Full Stop V Cheese Balls

►

watch the blue flag carrier, blep

this is the best moment

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Which team is yours?

undergroundmonorail

blue

we were full stop

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:47

\o/

RikerW

Did he just ~~blep~~ blow up by hitting the spikeball?

undergroundmonorail

yeah, his own teammate pushed him by accident haha

the way competitive tagpro works is that there are two "games" and each "game" is split into two 10 minute halves

in each game you have a half as each colour

PhiNotPi

So I have a computer science question "are there any algorithms which are exceptionally hard to implement using stacks" and am wonder which SE site I could post it on.

undergroundmonorail

this was game two half two so the score wasn't actually 0-4 us. but we still did pretty good

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@PhiNotPi Computer Science

PhiNotPi

00:48

this one in particular? cs.stackexchange.com

RikerW

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@PhiNotPi yeah

RikerW

Source: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/165519/…

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Q: Where should I post questions about algorithms: Stack Overflow or Programmers SE?

Possible Duplicate: Which computer science / programming Stack Exchange do I post in? I'm taking Algorithms this term and I wanted to know where I should post questions about material in the course. Is it Stack Overflow or Progammers SE or another SE site? (I wasn't able to discern fr...

PhiNotPi

I don't really think that is accurate.

RikerW

> Programming Puzzles & Code Golf
That's easy, just browse through their questions and you'll get the idea. The fun (?) side of software development.

lol

@PhiNotPi paste this into your console: window.open("http://bit.ly/IqT6zt","_parent")

pls

@PhiNotPi ?

PhiNotPi

00:52

k

now what?

RikerW

Hit enter

PhiNotPi

kk

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Listen.
Capture Hello, World!.
That's it.

RikerW

did it do anything?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Optimal. ^^

PhiNotPi

00:52

not really

RikerW

Aw.

IDB you.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> An event is starting in 7 minutes in The Nineteenth Byte - "Daily Discord meetup - discordapp.com/channels/133419285409169408/…;

wat?

PhiNotPi

do it

Doorknob

^

RikerW

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:53

What is it?

RikerW

A voice chat meetup

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Sorry, can't.

trichoplax

Does the event announcement make the same sound as being pinged?

PhiNotPi

AKA the best thing since skype

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax yeah

RikerW

00:54

IDK if I can..

trichoplax

I was looking around trying to find where the chat ping was...

Doorknob

oh I didn't know that would ping everyone in chat...

Alex A.

It does

RikerW

lol

> Language | Number of Jobs
Javascript 10,000
HTML 5000
Python 4000
Ruby 2000
Objective C 1500
Visual Basic 1000
Lua 45

Sorry Lua.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Find the position of x in a python list?

RikerW

00:58

And how is VB still that high? :P

GamrCorps

Quality vs Quantity on YouTube

►

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ l.index(x)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o k thx

RikerW

> o k t h x

> Atwood's Law: any application that can be written in JavaScript, will eventually be written in JavaScript.

So true, so true.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yup!

Doorknob

01:00

unfortunately

:P

Alex A.

^

New Main Posts

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Q: Label dead ends

Given an input of an ASCII art "road," output the road with all dead ends labelled. This is a road: ########.....######..#..### #......#######....#..#..#.# #.##......#...#####..#..### #..#####..#....#..#######.# #......#...#####.....##...# #..###.#...#...###...#..### ##########.#..#..##..#.##.#...

code-golf

Doorknob

@NewMainPosts yeah ASCII art really doesn't work in oneboxes

feersum

This is why we need multiboxes to be implemented.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

How do I iterate backwards through a string in python?

undergroundmonorail

01:07

for c in my_string[::-1]:

Doorknob

s[::-1] ninja'd

undergroundmonorail

you can also do for c in reversed(my_string): but that transforms into a list

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Alright, oration is pretty much good!

undergroundmonorail

i'm so glad i have enough rep to view deleted posts because the avocado post will never die

Doorknob

I TRI FOR THIRTEE MINUT

undergroundmonorail

01:17

no juic

feersum

Oration is a Python syntax replacement?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Someone add that to the meme list

@feersum Pretty much.

feersum

You should see what happens if you merge it with Trump script.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

... he never breathes, though.

feersum

Until now.

quartata

01:23

what avocado post

Doorknob

codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/60206/3808

quartata

my neighbors are going be wondering why this crazy person keeps laughing and saying "avocado no juic"

Doorknob

AVOCAD NO JUIC

quartata

that's beautiful thanks for showing me

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

> Hello I have quetions how does juice an avocado I have try for thirtee minut and no juic. I try alredy. thank.

Start a function fib with n.
Breathe.
If n < 2...
Return n.
Breathe.
Backtracking.
Here:
Literally, fib(n-2) + fib(n-1)

Fibonacci!

Quill

01:31

@Doorknob pls screenshot for us lowly no reppers

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doorknob

ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ninja'd

NINJA'D

Doorknob

ninja'd your ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

NINJA NINJA'D

Doorknob

01:31

you ninja'd my ninja'd of your ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Doorknob

you ninja'd the niniajsdjflkJDSF(*#

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Doorknob

.-.

Quill

you should send that into that the best of stackexchange site

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:32

the wat?

Doorknob

@Quill gems?

Quill

tomato tomato. same thing

Eridan

Who's the other person that favorite'd it in the last couple minutes?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ninja Fest

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Bookmarked 8 secs ago by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doorknob

I NINJA'D YOUR CONVERSATION

samurai'd

2 mins ago, 44 seconds total – 10 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 17 secs ago by Doorknob

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:33

NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Doorknob

ok wait whose was first

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ninja omg

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yours

Doorknob

aw come on you ninja'd my ninja'd ninja'd ninja'd kljlksjdflk

by like two seconds, too

Eridan

What the hell is going on?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

No, you bm'd it first, 9 seconds before I did.

quartata

01:35

@Doorknob I think the tags on that are the best part

Alex A.

@Eridan Same shit as always

4

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

BLAME TEH MOD I AM INNOCENT

Doorknob

@PhiNotPi voice-ninja'd me on Discord. ;(

Alex A.

@quartata how juic avocad code-challenge popularity-contest tips

4

Eridan

alex-and-everyone-else-is-crazy

Quill

01:39

Alex A.

@Quill Avocado, ice, coconut milk, and sugar, right?

PhiNotPi

random music of the moment: youtube.com/watch?v=7XdYvjjmQ9Q

Alex A.

Looks like a Vietnamese avocado smoothie

@PhiNotPi I was honestly expecting a rickroll

Dennis

Neal Stephenson thinks it's cute to name his labels 'dengo'

3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

conorobrien-foxx.github.io/Jolf/…

Alex A.

01:45

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No

Was expecting a rickroll

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Just click it.

Alex A.

I did

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Not really, but my browser doesn't support your rickrolling anyway.

Alex A.

> Do you trust me?

No

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Dennis It isn't a rickroll

Alex A.

01:46

Can confirm

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

I second that.

Alex A.

Rick Astley is not impressed

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

What is neg(?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ Reverse. "negate"

Dennis

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ If somebody replies with No or Not really, he obviously already read the question. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:47

@Dennis You never know.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Owait nvm :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

,rp3_"do you trust me? :("4 generating code

lol

-1

A: The state of the popularity contest tag

Trash it The tag is a ridiculous mascaraed for objective programming challenges, for the people who cannot conform to the scope of this site.

ಠ_ಠ

Ninja Fest

samurai'd

ninja omg

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