The Nineteenth Byte

Maltysen

07:00

@El'endiaStarman that's cool

El'endia Starman

Different pattern.

Okay, back to work on Spacewar!...

Alex A.

07:15

@Doorknob冰 The only problem with scrolling in vim using j and k is that if I forget that I'm in insert mode, I just get a line of jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj

El'endia Starman

Do question-askers get a notification when an answer is edited? I don't think they do...

Khaled A Khunaifer

sup lounge

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman No they don't

Calvin's Hobbies

I'd have like 1000000 more notifications

Alex A.

^ probably for that reason

FlagAsSpam

07:22

I might be an idiot, but can subclasses call a parent's private methods in Java? I'm almost sure they can, but eclipse says I should change it to public.

Alex A.

Does Java have protected?

Private methods are not inherited by subclasses

(AFAIK)

Maltysen

yeah, you have to use protected

FlagAsSpam

It does, but I'm asking for future knowledge reasons.

@Maltysen Coolio. Thanks.

Maltysen

2687

A: Difference between public, default, protected, and private?

The official tutorial may be of some use to you. | Class | Package | Subclass | World ————————————+———————+—————————+——————————+——————— public | y | y | y | y ————————————+———————+—————————+——————————+——————— protected | y | y | y | n ———...

undergroundmonorail

for ages and ages i thought the line in uptown funk was "coolio, get the stretch!"

Alex A.

07:27

@Maltysen This is excellent

FlagAsSpam

For ages and ages I thought the line in uptown funk was "Stop, wait a minute; here's my cup, hock a loogie in it."

undergroundmonorail

jeezy creezy

Khaled A Khunaifer

@AlexA. have you noticed the "no modifier", you get access inside the package, but not in the subclass or anywhere outside its package.

Alex A.

I don't know enough Java to know what that means

Khaled A Khunaifer

@AlexA. the package is like a library of classes (just a folder of java files for the classes), you can inherit a class from it outside that library

Alex A.

07:31

Oh, okay. That makes sense.

dorothy

hi all

Khaled A Khunaifer

@AlexA. class MyThread extends java.lang.Thread { /** cannot access private or no-modifier methods of Thread in here **/ }

Alex A.

@dorothy Hello!

dorothy

how things in ppcg world?

FlagAsSpam

@dorothy We're not in Kansas anymore, are we? (I'm so sorry)

dorothy

07:33

:)

@FlagAsSpam it's funny because I am the only person called dorothy left on Earth

otherwise it wouldn't be funny

FlagAsSpam

Side note: I can't follow the link to your profile.

Alex A.

Things in the world of PPCG are pretty good now that we've melted the Wicked Witch of the West.

dorothy

@AlexA. I don't know what it means but well done

Alex A.

Have you not seen The Wizard of Oz?

dorothy

not recently

I have mathematical code-golf idea however

FlagAsSpam

07:35

Water + Wicked Green Witch Lady = melted Wicked Witch of the West

Alex A.

^

dorothy

which might take you 2 minutes..or not

FlagAsSpam

Ooh, fancy. :D

Do tell.

Alex A.

@dorothy That's great!

dorothy

Consider a matrix M with 2 rows and n columns over integers given as the inpput. Now consider a fully random vector x whose values are either -1 or 1. The task is to compute the base 2 Shannon entropy of Mx

I will set my clock now :)

FlagAsSpam

07:37

Wait.

dorothy

ok

Khaled A Khunaifer

@AlexA. is this room family-friendly, should I avoid specific words or topics ? my first time here

Maltysen

@dorothy :O

dorothy

@KhaledAKhunaifer yes

FlagAsSpam

@KhaledAKhunaifer This room is very not family-friendly - kid tested, mother disapproved.

Alex A.

07:38

@KhaledAKhunaifer We're a generally tolerant bunch in here. That said, best to keep things at least a bit in check. ;)

FlagAsSpam

@dorothy Gotta look up Shannon entropy. :D

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam right but I find if a chat room descends into obscenity then quickly all interesting topics of conversation disappear

@FlagAsSpam so it's just not a good idea

Khaled A Khunaifer

ask one, get triple shot

FlagAsSpam

@dorothy We're friendly - just not family friendly.

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam :)

Alex A.

07:39

The Nineteenth Byte is actually one of the friendlist chat rooms in the network that I've seen.

Despite the amount of profanity that ends up in here :P

dorothy

@AlexA. true

Maltysen

oh, I see how Shannon Entropy works

dorothy

@AlexA. but that's because they are horrible elsewhere :)

Alex A.

The profanity just isn't aimed at anyone, which is the important distinction.

Khaled A Khunaifer

if you are referring to the name, this goes in a different way

dorothy

07:40

@AlexA. I slightly disagree. That is important for friendliness. But I have also observed that there is a slippery slope where everything just becomes puerile then no one likes to discuss interesting problems any more

Maltysen

@dorothy does base2 refer to the log being base 2, or the output being in base 2?

Khaled A Khunaifer

The nineteenth byte .. you know the nineteenth circle of hell

dorothy

@Maltysen log being base 2

the output is not base 2

Maltysen

do you have a test case?

Khaled A Khunaifer

Log is an ability that can let you walk on exponents like a ladder

dorothy

07:42

@Maltysen yes :) take the 2 by 2 identity matrix

@Maltysen the output should be 2

Maltysen

I'm assuming x is two tall?

dorothy

@Maltysen yes

Alex A.

@dorothy Heh, "puerile" is a pretty good word to describe how things go in here sometimes, with or without profanity. It's often been observed that this room rarely stays on the topic of code golf (or even vaguely related matters), though most are usually willing to engage in a good relevant discussion. :)

Maltysen

so I have to calculate all four permutations for Mx, and use that to find the shannon entropy?

dorothy

@Maltysen well that is one way to do it, yes

Khaled A Khunaifer

07:44

@AlexA. so it's okay to discuss anything, while keeping the discussion scientific?

dorothy

@Maltysen when n = 2

Maltysen

but n can be anything, right?

dorothy

@Maltysen yes.. but let's say < 30 to make life easy

@KhaledAKhunaifer that would be my vote

Maltysen

but there will always only be 4 permuations right?

is x a row or column vector?

dorothy

@Maltysen of Mx? No. The two elements of Mx will be in the range -n to n

Alex A.

07:45

@KhaledAKhunaifer The discussion doesn't have to stay scientific. As I said, this room rarely stays on the topic of the site it's dedicated to.

dorothy

@Maltysen column

one great thing about this room as that people are willing to talk to new people

Khaled A Khunaifer

@dorothy you realize how big is "anything", if the universe is infinite, so is "anything" domain.

dorothy

unlike many other chat room

@KhaledAKhunaifer I said < 30 :)

Khaled A Khunaifer

@dorothy what does 30 refer to ?

Maltysen

I HAVE KUBUNTU!!!!! AFTER ONLY ~7 HOURS OF DEDICATED WORK!!!!!

Alex A.

07:47

@Maltysen Congrats! \o/

FlagAsSpam

@KhaledAKhunaifer Likely 30 base 10

Alex A.

@KhaledAKhunaifer Dorothy was referring to a bound on n in the problem she discussed, whereas I think you were talking about the topic of the room being anything.

Maltysen

and it was worth it! Kubuntu is awesome

undergroundmonorail

when someone says "NB" followed by a comment, what does NB mean in that context

Khaled A Khunaifer

@FlagAsSpam I wanted to ask, what is on the left side when you said, < 30

undergroundmonorail

07:48

example codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3897/…

Alex A.

@Maltysen So what differentiates Kubuntu from Ubuntu? Or any other flavor of Linux?

@undergroundmonorail I think it just means "the following is a comment"

undergroundmonorail

weird how none of those words begin with N or B though

Alex A.

I think (think) it's Latin

undergroundmonorail

can we make it into advertising for chat

Ninteenth Byte

i almost had a joke but i couldn't land it

Alex A.

Nota bene

Nota bene (/ˈnoʊtə ˈbɛneɪ/, /ˈnoʊtə ˈbɛni/ or /ˈnoʊtə ˈbiːni/; plural form notate bene) is a Latin phrase meaning "note well". The phrase first appeared in English writing circa 1711. Often abbreviated as "N.B.", "N.b." or "n.b.", nota bene comes from the Latin roots notāre ("to note") and bene ("well"). It is in the singular imperative mood, instructing one individual to note well the matter at hand. In present-day English, it is used, particularly in legal papers, to draw the attention of the reader to a certain (side) aspect or detail of the subject on hand, translating it as "pay attention...

undergroundmonorail

07:50

cool, ty

Alex A.

My pleasure

Maltysen

@AlexA. Kubuntu = ubuntu + KDE

Alex A.

@Maltysen So KDE in place of the Unity interface?

I rather like Unity, but I don't spend enough time in the world of Linux to have too much of a preference.

Khaled A Khunaifer

this is funny .. Ubuntu can switch to KDE without having to install Kubuntu distro

dorothy

@KhaledAKhunaifer the max size of n

@Maltysen to be clear.. x has n elements

it's been minutes and no one has produced an answer yet! :)

FlagAsSpam

07:53

@dorothy Why do I get a Page Not Found error when I try to go to your page on Math.SE?

Alex A.

@dorothy Did you know that you can reply directly to a message? When you hover over a message, a downward arrow will appear on the left side of it. Clicking that brings up a menu from which you can select "reply to this message." Similarly, the little arrow button on the right side of the message replies.

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam no idea .. I am not a .se dev :)

@AlexA. ah yes.. thanks

Alex A.

:)

dorothy

@AlexA. it's just slightly more annoying as I have to use the mouse each time

undergroundmonorail

there's a userscript for that!!

i'll find it real quick

doorknob made it

github.com/KeyboardFire/sevichat

dorothy

07:55

great!

Alex A.

Note that they're Vim style shortcuts though. Consider yourself warned. :P

dorothy

although if @@username just replied to the last comment of person username that would be better

undergroundmonorail

that would be sick actually

dorothy

where sick == good?

Alex A.

It does, but it doesn't show it as a linked reply.

undergroundmonorail

07:56

yeah

Alex A.

For example:

@undergroundmonorail Hi

undergroundmonorail

@AlexA. hello

Alex A.

When you hover over my message it highlights monorail's last message

dorothy

@AlexA. that's what I meant.. if double @@ made it a linked reply

Alex A.

@@ is reserved for moderator "super pings."

dorothy

07:57

@AlexA. well ok.. some other simple sequence of symbols :)

undergroundmonorail

is @ a legal character in usernames

if not: @alexa@

i never realized that if you don't capitalize the second a it just looks like "alexa"

dorothy

@undergroundmonorail the problem with using "sick" like that is that it locates you at a certain date and location :)

these slang terms for good don't last long

Alex A.

Early 2000s US, perhaps?

undergroundmonorail

i also say "rad"

i don't even think i was alive when rad was cool

Alex A.

Haha

When was "rad" cool? The 80s?

undergroundmonorail

08:00

sounds right to me

i was born in 1996 for the record

Alex A.

I spend my entire life feeling young until I enter The Nineteenth Byte and am surrounded by people several years my junior.

(1990)

undergroundmonorail

my chrome dev tools are frozen but the page itself is running fine

oh, there we go, it fixed itself

FlagAsSpam

Frank Sinatra- You make me feel so young

►

El'endia Starman

@Maltysen Yay!

undergroundmonorail

what do i do if i want to use code from an MIT licensed project

FlagAsSpam

08:09

@undergroundmonorail Cite.

undergroundmonorail

okay ty

FlagAsSpam

Waitno. I actually have no clue. xD

'Twas mostly a joke.

It should work though. c:

Alex A.

@undergroundmonorail You have to include the MIT license from that project with your project IIRC

undergroundmonorail

okay that's easy enough

Alex A.

The MIT license requires attribution in the form of a fully reproduced license

undergroundmonorail

08:11

i'll look up specifics though

Alex A.

Good idea

FlagAsSpam

How does the sandbox have 5 rep?

Alex A.

No one knows

Except probably Doorknob

Read: I don't know, ask Doorknob

FlagAsSpam

@Doorknob冰 ^

chat goes silent as we await the mighty doorknob

undergroundmonorail

hey doorknob i'm stealing code from you but it's okay because i'll include the MIT licence with it

ty

$('#input').val

fuck

this is not my javascript console

New Main Posts

08:27

0

Q: Boxed character regions

Given an input string, determine the number of regions that a page will be split into. Consider the letter P. It has one enclosed region within the letter. Assume that each letter splits the page by one or more regions (i.e. a box is drawn around the character). Input A string of 0 or more cha...

undergroundmonorail

// i don't know what this means but doorknob's code has it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

my comments are helpful

test

that didn't work

curse you, unmatched parens

test post please ignore

^ that one worked!

i wrote a userscript that changes anything you send to SE chat into "test post please ignore"

El'endia Starman

So, uh, I wrote some additional code that runs the Spacewar! KotH as fast as possible. 20 games now take a whopping 8 seconds, instead of 30 minutes. :D :D

Khaled A Khunaifer

The Nineteenth Byte

undergroundmonorail

test

test test

@test@ test

that does not work. okay.

Khaled A Khunaifer

The 64-bit name of God

undergroundmonorail

08:37

oh shit i'm not very smart

i wrote old.split(" ");

i meant old.split(" ")[0];

test

@test@ test

that still does not work

Khaled A Khunaifer

The many are one, the one are many

undergroundmonorail

@test@ test

nice

El'endia Starman

So...what is it doing?

undergroundmonorail

currently?

console.log("FIXME");

El'endia Starman

lol

I mean, what did you see on success?

undergroundmonorail

08:41

that is the success condition

El'endia Starman

(And what is it supposed to do when you finish?)

oh, lolz

undergroundmonorail

i was just checking to see if it would notice what i was doing.

El'endia Starman

ahh, gotcha

undergroundmonorail

eventually i'll be able to say "@El'endiaStarman@ hello" and it will become ":26496581 hello"

or whatever your most recent message's id was

El'endia Starman

Cool.

That actually did not ping me. Interesting. ...or rather, it did, but it's not highlighted.

Test "@undergroundmonorail@ hi".

undergroundmonorail

08:43

huh

weird

undergroundmonorail

08:57

jquery is hard

FlagAsSpam

What's hard is having a conversation with a 12-year-old who's trying to lecture you on why IQ makes you inherently smarter than everyone else whilst trying to point out that there's no way in hell that it guarantees anything and it's an outdated test that proves nothing. ಠ_ಠ

undergroundmonorail

function messageAuthor(message) {
    return message.parent().parent().children('.signature').children('.username').text().replace(/ /g, '');
}

am i good at code yet

FlagAsSpam

Yes, of course. c:

undergroundmonorail

:D

Sherlock9

@FlagAsSpam Tell that 12-year-old that the original point, and basically the only thing it's good for, is to test for mental disabilities, and as a test for measuring intelligence, it's about as good as a meter stick for measuring parsecs.

Despite my opinion on this, I did become a member of Mensa anyway, so take that with a grain of salt

FlagAsSpam

09:11

@Sherlock9 Said it already.

I told him to go to bed.

@Sherlock9 GG. :D

Sherlock9

I could be wrong on the point of IQ test. Doing some research to correct myself, if needed.

dorothy

what was the view about my challenge?

too mathsey?

Sherlock9

@FlagAsSpam Yeah, a friend invited me and I was interested in the community at the time, but I haven't had any time to attend any gatherings in the two months since I signed up.

@dorothy Test cases, please

dorothy

@Sherlock9 I gave one :) I can give more though

how do you typeset a matrix in ppcg? I don't think latex works

Sherlock9

Must have missed that when I was reading through chat. Let me look again

FlagAsSpam

09:18

@dorothy Pictures.

undergroundmonorail

@undergroundmonorail test

i can't believe that actually worked

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam Pictures??

Sherlock9

@dorothy I am going to guess 1 or 0

FlagAsSpam

We don't have MathJax/Latex writing in PPCG.

undergroundmonorail

@FlagAsSpam but we do on meta

which is weird

Sherlock9

09:23

Because the end result is a 2xn x nx1= 2x1 matrix and the Shannon entropy of two symbols is 1 or 0, depending on whether the two integers in the 2x1 matrix are different or the same.

undergroundmonorail

@El'endiaStarman you have a space in your username so i'm using you as a test subject. sorry.

i cannot believe that this is working

dorothy

@Sherlock9 meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/7851/21585

@Sherlock9 please let me know if anything is unclear

Sherlock9

Are all the members of M from {-1,1} as well?

dorothy

@Sherlock9 hmm... I don't mind. What do you think?

does it make it easier?

undergroundmonorail

i found a bug

hooray

dorothy

09:32

@Sherlock9 changed it to +-1

undergroundmonorail

if the user you're trying to reply to doesn't have a message on the page, it loops forever and gets stuck

dorothy

could people please take a look at meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/7851/21585 and tell if you see any problems

@undergroundmonorail are you implementing the idea we discussed before?

undergroundmonorail

@dorothy yeah!

github.com/undergroundmonorail/easyreply

i don't recommend using it yet

1 min ago, by undergroundmonorail

if the user you're trying to reply to doesn't have a message on the page, it loops forever and gets stuck

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Title Computing the entropy Input A matrix M represented as two space separated lines of integers. Each line will have the same number of integers and each integer will be either -1 or 1. The number of integers per line will be at most 20. Output The binary Shannon entropy of Mx where the el...

Sherlock9

@dorothy No, I was just wondering since your test cases only use that

I'm still a little confused, but I think I'm getting somewhere towards an answer

undergroundmonorail

09:36

i think i found the bug

@test@

hooray!

FlagAsSpam

Turns out that waifu is now real.

undergroundmonorail

@@newsandboxedposts@@ hello

dorothy

@Sherlock9 great!

undergroundmonorail

@@NewSandboxedPosts@@ hello

dorothy

@undergroundmonorail that's awesome!

undergroundmonorail

09:39

hm

@@dorothy@@ i might have broken it

FlagAsSpam

@undergroundmonorail I don't know what you're doing here.

undergroundmonorail

...no wait

hang on

everything still works i just forgot the syntax

i defined

like a minute ago

@dorothy this should work

dorothy

and it does

undergroundmonorail

\o/

@NewSandboxedPosts hello

FlagAsSpam

So... you're doing regex fixes?

undergroundmonorail

09:42

there's only one regex in the whole thing

.replace(/ /g, '')

FlagAsSpam

Oh.

Alrighty then.

Sherlock9

@dorothy Never mind. Brain shut down. I don't get how to calculate Shannon entropy for a matrix

FlagAsSpam

It is 4 AM now.

I'm sleeping.

Night all.

undergroundmonorail

you can look at the code here if you want but keep in mind that i do not know how to use javascript well haha

@FlagAsSpam 'night!

dorothy

@undergroundmonorail nor do I!

Sherlock9

09:43

Night @FlagAsSpam

undergroundmonorail

o/

it's almost five in the morning

New Main Posts

10:03

0

Q: Computing the entropy

Input A matrix M represented as two space separated lines of integers. Each line will have the same number of integers and each integer will be either -1 or 1. The number of integers per line will be at most 20. Output The binary Shannon entropy of Mx where the elements of x are uniformly and...

code-golf math

undergroundmonorail

i just realized that all the ==s in my code should probably be ===

oh well who gives a hoot

wizzwizz4

10:16

@undergroundmonorail That would use more characters.

Does anyone here have a powerful computer I could 'borrow' for a day?

I've written some C code for generating a Seed for Hello, World!, but it will take ~24 days on my budget laptop.

And I can't leave my laptop on too long or system processes steal my clock cycles.

-1

Q: What are best practices for compile-time variables?

I have written a program in C to generate Seed programs from a Befunge program. It is a very long, brute force calculation. So that it can be heavily optimised, the input variables are hardcoded using Macros. However, I was wondering if there was a better way to do this. Here's the Mersenne Twis...

c macros

dorothy

you can tell it is holiday season... 1 upvote, no downvotes and no answers and > 20 minutes has passed :)

wizzwizz4

10:37

Does anyone have a spare computer that could run some code for a day?

It doesn't have to be really powerful...

dorothy

@wizzwizz4 amazon?

wizzwizz4

Does amazon run executables?

Guys. This code will find a Hello, World program in Seed in a reasonable amount of time. I've just got a really rubbish laptop. If anyone has a gaming Desktop, it should only take a few hours.

yeti

@wizzwizz4 in which language?

wizzwizz4

@yeti C

yeti

i could try to run it at SDF

2,4GHz octa-core netbsd7

Memory: 11M Act, 1095M Inact, 4K Wired, 13M Exec, 1087M File, 13G Free
Swap: 8197M Total, 61M Used, 8135M Free

wizzwizz4

10:51

My program hardly uses any memory.

The source code is in the question I asked on codereview. It's currently set up for the Hello, World program.

yeti

@home the fastest box is an old 32bit-dual-xeon with 2.8GHz

but i'd need to dedust ist and update debian

wizzwizz4

I've only got 2.16GHz / 2159MHz on a Windows 10.

And Windows / Norton hog most of the CPU if I leave it on for more than 15mins.

Here's a gist containing all the source:

gist.github.com/wizzwizz4/dfff7af8ce943a3be064

yeti

I'll ive it a try on SDF (netbsd)

wizzwizz4

Thank you!

yeti

dedusting the xeon probably will take longer than the speed gain is worth

wizzwizz4

10:58

Well... I did a rough calculation and on my machine it was to take at most 24 days.

However, I used the wrong figures.

I recommend running it for 1 min then pressing ^C.

Then you know it's approx. speed.

yeti

not a single warning when compiling

fine!

wizzwizz4

That's what I hoped.

Wait...

There isn't meant to be room for the null at the end of the program string.

That usually throws a warning...

yeti

running:

~/wizwiz$ date ; time ./seed ; date
Wed Dec 30 11:04:29 UTC 2015

wizzwizz4

Have you got its speed? Or are you just going to run it.

Because there is a small possibility that it might run forever if it doesn't find the right seed after going through all the possible values of the unsigned long.

But that failure probably won't happen; people have said that it is probably possible for a Hello, World program to exist.

And I've set that program up with the smallest known, and probably smallest possible, Hello, World program in Befunge.

yeti

i just started it

I'm waiting increasingly faster

:-D

need some distration to prevent me looking every other minute for results

:-\

wizzwizz4

11:14

Here's a distraction:

11

Q: Analyse your Chair

This challenge is based on Downgoat's Adjust your chair. Challenge You just adjusted your new chair! It fits you perfectly. However, the wheel is squeaky and you know the repair people will change the adjustment. Problem is, you don't have a ruler, so you'll have to write a program to measure i...

code-golf ascii-art

yeti

search hello world in PI?

not the chair...

wizzwizz4

If you don't want the chair, you could try

23

Q: Map string to Hilbert curve

Let's map some strings to 2d space, fractal style. Your task is to compute a Hilbert curve and lay a string along it. Task The task is to take the single-line input string, and lay it out along a Hilbert curve big enough to contain it, but no bigger. Try to make the byte count as low as possi...

code-golf string fractal

yeti

I'm regularily frustrated by code-golf challenges

wizzwizz4

So am I actually. But people seem to like them.

yeti

in most cases optimising for speed or small size yields ugly code... and I like beautifull algorithms or code...

wizzwizz4

11:21

People often take the approach of code-golf unless that wouldn't work, in which case some form of code-challenge, probably popularity-contest. And then they criticize people when they don't.

yeti

less golfing and more of the other types of challenge would be good... definitely

wizzwizz4

Yes. Yes it would.

mınxomaτ

> optimising for speed [...] yields ugly code

You're doing it wrong then.

yeti

maybe I should switch to rosetta code... coding for fun and beauty without competition would be ok for me...

wizzwizz4

But there aren't many challenges like that :-(

yeti

11:24

@mınxomaτ no... optimizing for speed trashed the beauty of an algorithm...

mınxomaτ

@yeti No it doesn't. You select a language that fit's the task and optimize only hotspots. Speed optimizations only yield ugly code if you use the wrong language and tools.

wizzwizz4

I use Pyth for everything golfy and JavaScript for everything pretty. C is for Speed.

yeti

@mınxomaτ your opinion... mine differs

can we end this discussion now?

wizzwizz4

BROWSER WARS!!! (But seriously, no.)

wizzwizz4

11:38

@yeti Is it still running? Has it finished yet?

No. Don't answer that.

~~Please answer it!!!~~ No, I know what the answer will be. It can't have finished yet.

yeti

@wizzwizz4 It is running on 2 different machines at SDF

just in case of somethin weird happening...

why not search hello world in pi?

wizzwizz4

@yeti Because Seed is fun. And I already have a digit extraction algorithm for pi.

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