The Nineteenth Byte

VTCAKAVSMoACE

22:00

> Randall was a sentient bottle of apple juice created by Penwar Lockis by accident while using Nisovin's Wand of Limited Possibilities.

Alex A.

36 secs ago, by Doorknob

what

quartata

quartata (Tou Hum Neu Mal) wished for an uncursed sentient bottle of apple juice on turn 1459

SuperJedi224

Hi monorail

TheDoctor

WHY IS THERE A JAR NAMED RANDALL???

Alex A.

@quartata Is "Tou Hum Neu Mal" Vietnamese for something?

Doorknob

22:01

@TheDoctor hi

quartata

@AlexA. Tourist Human Neutral Male

TheDoctor

hi

quartata

NetHack

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@TheDoctor Not a jar. Sentient Apple Juice.

Calvin's Hobbies

Mini-challenge: Whose avatar has the most distinct rgb colors?

Doorknob

22:02

Feb 24 at 23:03, by Doorknob

Are we going to start starring "hi" now?

TheDoctor

^ would star

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies Probably @VoteToClosesomethingsomething

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Calvin'sHobbies I'm very red.

SuperJedi224

@Calvin'sHobbies I'll guess VTCAKAVSMoAC or Doorknob

Calvin's Hobbies

Not Peter?

Alex A.

22:02

@quartata Definitely read that as "neutered male" >.>

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies Peter's avatar is more... flat?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

quartata

Doorknob didn't notice my NetHack reference I'm so sad

Doorknob

@quartata I did :P

quartata

@Doorknob You feel somewhat better.

I did it wrong

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Doorknob Is this a better name? :P

Wait. Scratch that.

It hasn't updated. o-o

Doorknob

22:04

refreshes chat profile

TheDoctor

I think there's a reason why nobody is starring things: everyone ran out

Doorknob

This room was placed in timeout for 1 second; the topic of this room is "ANYTHING BUT STARS"

TheDoctor

> 1 second

VoteToClose

snorts Accurate.

SuperJedi224

I'm reasonably certain I have yet to run out.

quartata

22:06

@VoteToClose lmao

Calvin's Hobbies

I have not starred anything in the last 48 hours

feersum

Messages stars complaints people stars annoy make encourage engender proliferate.

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VoteToClose

Uh. Markov chain?

TheDoctor

@feersum um

Doorknob

no I think that's actually grammatically correct

TheDoctor

22:06

^

Beta Decay

I'm back :)

Doorknob

Messages that stars [...] engender proliferate.

Stars that complaints [...] encourage [...]

Complaints that people [...] make [...]

VoteToClose

> Stars that complaints

SuperJedi224

@DLosc Hi

Doorknob

People that stars annoy [...]

DLosc

22:08

@SuperJedi224 Hi--just realized that my speakers are turned up way too loud :P

feersum

I was trying to silence the chatroom by causing a stack overflow in everyone's parsers. Didn't work apparently.

TheDoctor

@DLosc :P

@feersum P:

SuperJedi224

Currently listening to:

Waterflame - Hexagon Force

►

VoteToClose

Hold on - @Doorknob Would it be perfectly acceptable to create a chat room to test if chat can do something, then delete it right afterwards?

Doorknob

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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VoteToClose

22:10

Ooh, fancy. Never mind.

Oh, it works so good.

TheDoctor

@SuperJedi224 iz gud

Alex A.

@VoteToClose So well.

Doorknob

\o/

VoteToClose

@AlexA. I wordsed it as that on purposefully.

Alex A.

@Doorknob Despite my occasionally incorrect spelling or grammar, once upon a time I wanted to be a book editor. (This was a long time ago.)

@VoteToClose twitches

quartata

22:12

nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bad_Idea

Doorknob

> occasionally incorrect spelling

quartata

I wonder if someone has done a Dumb ways to Die in NetHack

Alex A.

@Doorknob ?

Doorknob

20 hours ago, by Alex A.

no wai 0 with space r gud

Alex A.

Oh right

VoteToClose

22:13

> ocasionaly uncorect speling

TheDoctor

^wsb

El'endia Starman

@feersum I'm not sure if there's one too many verbs.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman there's not

DLosc

"Some people are annoyed by stars. These people make complaints. These complaints encourage stars. These stars engender messages. These messages proliferate."

@feersum (No stack overflow :D)

El'endia Starman

@DLosc I think the "stars engender messages" part is what I was getting hung up on. It doesn't really make sense to me.

feersum

22:17

(Messages (stars (complaints (people stars annoy) make) encourage) engender ) proliferate.

El'endia Starman

engender
verb (used with object)
1.
to produce, cause, or give rise to:
Hatred engenders violence.
2.
to beget; procreate.

That's why. Stars don't actually produce messages, or cause them.

VoteToClose

Dang. I just edited something to realize it had already been rolled back from the version I suggested, and now I can't retract it. -.-

feersum

Stars cause messages.

El'endia Starman

But they don't!

Rainbolt

Counter target message, then proliferate

El'endia Starman

22:19

People make messages because of stars.

feersum

Messages cause stars.

It's a feedback loop

El'endia Starman

Several better words here.

VoteToClose

Waait. I actually got approved? O.o

SuperJedi224

@VTCAKAVSMoACE: What for?

feersum

I guess I could replace all the verbs with "arouse".

El'endia Starman

22:21

Bring about, foment, incite, induce, instigate, lead to, provoke... I think I like instigate the best.

...

VoteToClose

I made an obvious edit suggestion on the "Alex is sometimes right" question. c; I added a relevant tag for later searches.

Aw. Rejected. :c

Oh well. I should've seen that one coming. :D

DLosc

Confusion attention stars terse descriptions people stars posts people like get inspire create get attract to the messages creates leads to debates.

SuperJedi224

Reading the Irregular Webcomic bonus strips on Pyramid

quartata

@VoteToClose If you tried to add the alex-is-wrong tag @Doorknob will whack you with a trout

SuperJedi224

Doorknob

22:23

@quartata I rejected it as vandalism

El'endia Starman

@DLosc Not even gonna try. :P

quartata

@Doorknob !slap

go go go

gets popcorn

SuperJedi224

And on the next page:

quartata

Awh come on you aren't going to whack him with a trout?

I'm disappointed in you.

DLosc

@SuperJedi224 Ha! "Don't confuse me with the facts."

SuperJedi224

22:26

Sorry. There were just two particularly good ones in a row.

quartata

Why are moderators "pro tempore" (for the time being) on PPCG?

feersum

Death is inevitable.

quartata

I mean aside from that...

Doorknob

@quartata because PPCG is a beta site

quartata

@Doorknob So..?

Doorknob

22:28

so there's no elections

Alex A.

So mods aren't elected on beta sites

Ninja'd

Rainbolt

So when we graduate, we'll have elections and kick them out of office?

Doorknob

I NINJA'D @AlexA.

Alex A.

Yeah

Doorknob

I thought this day would never come

feersum

22:28

That explanation makes less sense. Graduation is not inevitable.

Alex A.

@Doorknob Really?

quartata

So you guys won't be mods after we graduate?

sob

Doorknob

@quartata you can re-elect us :P

Alex A.

@quartata We will be if you elect us.

God damn

Re-ninja'd

Rainbolt

I vote for change

Doorknob

22:29

@AlexA. HA

quartata

@Doorknob Ok good.

Rainbolt

I like you guys but I want to destroy tips so I have to beat you.

Alex A.

@Rainbolt Even if you don't vote for me, I do recommend at least keeping Doorknob, Martin, and Dennis around.

@Rainbolt You mean make tips questions off topic?

quartata

@AlexA. Why wouldn't we vote for you?

Rainbolt

@AlexA. I mean silently destroy all of them and then see how long it takes for the community to even notice.

quartata

22:30

@Rainbolt I'd notice.

Alex A.

@quartata I feel like I perform somewhat satisfactorily as a moderator, but I'm notoriously trollish.

I wouldn't notice, honestly.

DLosc

I'd notice the next time I tried to answer in Ruby or Perl.

Or tried to link to the Python tips to explain something I did, or for someone else's benefit.

VoteToClose

@Doorknob I feel like this is the point where @Geobits comes in and points out that we're graduating next week anyways.

Geobits

Well we are, so why would I need to say it?

quartata

WE AREN'T STOP

Doorknob

22:37

What's the date again, @Geobits?

quartata

@Doorknob November 1st, 2^31

Geobits

I've heard both the 1st and the 27th, so I guess we'll know which it is pretty soon.

I just know it's November for sure.

Doorknob

Yep, he's right

geobits-is-not-alex

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DLosc

@quartata We can hope for Nov 1st, 2^11, can't we?

VoteToClose

At this point, we should just make wrong and alex synonyms.

quartata

22:39

@Doorknob geobits-likes-java according-to-you-java-is-wrong therefore geobits-is-wrong and-so geobits-is-alex qed

Doorknob

No, it's November 1st, 13*5*31 (a palindrome).

quartata

doorknob-is-wrong

Doorknob

>:O

Calvin's Hobbies

You guys have got to stop joke tagging Alex is sometimes right

2

Doorknob

^

SuperJedi224

22:43

Bye guys

Doorknob

> and Stallman created the Church of Emacs

> wat
> ...what do they do there?
> pinky exercises?

Alex A.

lal

emacs-is-wrong

Doorknob

alex-is-right

Alex A.

oh-hell-yeah

Doorknob

alex-is-wrriognhgt

VoteToClose

22:44

@Calvin'sHobbies Sorry. :c

Doorknob

or whatever it was

quartata

@AlexA. I used to like Emacs. Then I tried vim. :wq

Alex A.

haha

quartata

vi-is-right

Alex A.

@quartata Append an m and you've got yourself a decent editor.

Doorknob

22:44

mvi? vmi?

quartata

@AlexA. vi=vim nowadays

But yes

Calvin's Hobbies

Do we need logic? I would've added it to the alex question (and @aditsu eventually did) but only 2 other questions is pretty weak

VoteToClose

Virtual Machine Indenter?

Doorknob

@quartata no it's not

Alex A.

@Doorknob append

Calvin's Hobbies

22:45

I feel a lot of challenge could be tagged logic though.

quartata

@Doorknob Installing vim on ubuntu will auto-alias vi to vim.

Doorknob

ubuntu-is-wrong

Alex A.

@Doorknob You used to love Ubuntu.

</3

Doorknob

@quartata try having to use vanilla vi instead of vim and then say that again

quartata

@Doorknob I have used vanilla vi.

I didn't like it.

VoteToClose

22:46

linux-is-right-as-a-concept-but-fails-on-many-levels-and-is-therefore-occasionally-alex

quartata

@VoteToClose What

@VoteToClose ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

votetoclose-is-wrong

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Worth taking it to meta I think. I'm kind of on the fence about it. It could be useful for symbolic logic challenges but I think it may get improperly used quite a bit as most challenges require some logic.

VoteToClose

> occasionally

quartata

ಠ______________________________ಠ

Doorknob

22:47

> fails on many levels

Alex A.

@VoteToClose On what levels does it fail? Keep in mind that if you're a Mac user (like me), OS X is built on FreeBSD.

quartata

@VoteToClose ಠ________________________________ಠ

Doorknob

@AlexA. osx-is-wrong

Alex A.

@Doorknob hush you

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. ;)

Doorknob

I have used OS X

Alex A.

22:48

Oh

And obviously you loved it.

DLosc

@Doorknob I was waiting for that rejoinder ^__^

Doorknob

alex-is-wrong

Alex A.

D:

feersum

boolean-logic would be more descriptive that 'logic'.

Alex A.

^

quartata

22:50

@Doorknob I have also used OS X.

Doorknob

or possibly formal-logic

quartata

osx-is-very-wrong

Alex A.

@Doorknob Yes! I like this one.

quartata

os9-is-right

Doorknob

@quartata What OS do you use, again?

oh

quartata

22:50

@Doorknob Linux

Alex A.

Which

quartata

Ubuntu Studio

Doorknob

no you obviously use OS 9

quartata

@Doorknob Not on a regular basis.

I do use IRIX occasionally.

Doorknob

... wait, have you actually? O_o (used OS 9)

quartata

22:51

@Doorknob Yeah

I've used them all brah

Doorknob

@quartata /me has never heard of this

VoteToClose

Is there any /me equivalent aside of *?

Alex A.

He explained it in here once

Doorknob

@VoteToClose no

VoteToClose

Dang.

Doorknob

22:52

unless there's a PPCG IRC channel that I"m unaware of :P

quartata

Ubuntu Studio

Ubuntu Studio is an officially recognized derivative of the Ubuntu Linux distribution, which is explicitly geared to general multimedia production. The original version, based on Ubuntu 7.04, was released on 10 May 2007. == FeaturesEdit == === Real-time kernelEdit === The real-time kernel, first included with Ubuntu Studio 8.04, was modified for intensive audio, video or graphics work. The 8.10 Ubuntu Studio release lacks this real-time kernel. It has been reimplemented in the 9.04 Ubuntu Studio release and stabilized with the release of 9.10. 10.04 Ubuntu Studio, in contrast, does not ...

@Doorknob There should be

Alex A.

No

quartata

Yes

Doorknob

... we could make one. :P

quartata

@Doorknob !

Alex A.

22:54

No

quartata

Oui

Doorknob

hey look #ppcg isn't taken on Freenode! \o/

DLosc

Maybe

Alex A.

I oppose this for absolutely no reason

quartata

@Doorknob já

Doorknob

22:55

/me registers it

quartata

Did you really?

Doorknob

awww, never mind, I lied. Someone else already did :P

quartata

Awh

Who?

Alex A.

doorknob-lied

Doorknob

but I still managed to become an op somehow

Alex A.

22:56

@quartata Me

Doorknob

17:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in fn with ChanServ
17:55 <KeyboardFire> register #ppcg
17:55 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- #ppcg is already registered to Karql.

Alex A.

/me is Karql

Doorknob

suuure :P

Alex A.

I chose it because it sounds like "gargle" and hence amuses me

Doorknob

okay, well ##ppcg wasn't taken. So I registered that

quartata

22:58

Really

Alex A.

Really really

Doorknob

18:02 -!- mode/##ppcg [+qr +o!*@*] by KeyboardFire
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> oops
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> did I just op everyone
18:02 -!- mode/##ppcg [+q -o!*@*] by KeyboardFire
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> I'm not very good at this IRC op thing

help I have no idea what I'm doing

DanTheMan

Is there a list of all the moderators on PPCG?

Doorknob

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators

DanTheMan

:)

Alex A.

23:11

@Doorknob how does join

Doorknob

@AlexA. /join ##ppcg

I'm trying to get my old bot working again :P

Alex A.

@Doorknob Just at the command line? Idk how to IRC at all.

Doorknob

@AlexA. no, you have to connect to Freenode first

Alex A.

@Doorknob How

Doorknob

google.com

Alex A.

23:15

> ##ppcg Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services

Doorknob

you need an account

because I set the +r flag in mlock

18:14 <@KeyboardFire> !group add KeyboardFire op
18:14 < kfibot> KeyboardFire: user op successfully added to group KeyboardFire
18:15 <@KeyboardFire> oops

I can't figure out my own bot

TheDoctor

I forgot my IRC password ;(

did someone revoke my stars?

Thomas Kwa

> revoke my stars

Alex A.

Mods can cancel stars

Thomas Kwa

that's a thing?

Alex A.

23:25

I haven't canceled any stars today.

I don't know about revoking one's privilege to star.

No idea if that's a thing.

But if it is, Doorknob probably did it to TheDoctor. :P

TheDoctor

I can't star anything :<

Alex A.

Have you run out of stars?

TheDoctor

not since last night

Alex A.

Hm

TheDoctor

and it should've reset recently

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23:28

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Q: An elementary challenge

This challenge is inspired by this Oliver Sacks quote: “At 11, I could say ‘I am sodium’ (Element 11), and now at 79, I am gold.” ― Oliver Sacks I want you you find numbers in a string and replace them with their corresponding elements' symbols. (1 is H, 2 is He, 3 is Li, etc.) There are ...

GamrCorps

I'm currently in the process of making a series of questions that have a shared scoring system. Does anyone know of an easy way (or a version I can copy) to make a stack snippet leaderboard for a multi-question series of challenges??

Alien G

@GamrCorps Nope.

Adam

Hey everyone, I have a strange question.

Alex A.

Ok

Alien G

@Adam Shoot.

TheDoctor

23:31

^

Adam

Take a look at this bookmark.

What esolang is that closest to?

Doorknob

hahaha

TheDoctor

??????

Alien G

XD

Alex A.

It's certainly the sexiest language I've ever seen.

GamrCorps

23:32

^

Doorknob

So do you mean enderland's "pseudocode"?

Alien G

@AlexA. What about MindF***

Adam

Moreso the string I suggested: "XYYXZ"

Doorknob

Ah. Perhaps take a look at Pyth

Adam

An esolang that only uses maybe three characters X, Y, and Z to perform basic tasks.

Alex A.

23:33

@AlienG I'm not familiar with MindF***. Perhaps you mean Brainfuck?

Doorknob

@Adam oh, never mind then

Alex A.

@Adam TinyBF

Doorknob

Deadfish?

(although it's not Turing-complete, obviously)

Alien G

@AlexA. Close enough.

GamrCorps

@Adam Well, If you haven't seen this website yet, there is probably one on here: esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page

Adam

23:35

@Alex Ah, that might've been the language I was trying to remember.

@GamrCorps I've searched through that a few times and I wasn't able to find anything.

But TinyBF could be one of the closest.

TheDoctor

In this challenge, you will write two programs. One of them is the encryptor program. It will be publicly posted on PPCG in this thread, for the cops to see. It can be as obfuscated as possible, but must be reverse-engineerable. You must also write a decryptor program that can decrypt the output of said encryptor. You will keep the decryptor secret for the time being, however, you must post it to a private file hosting site (TBD) that I will use to make sure everyone's submissions are valid.

start of a cops & robbers challenge ^

GamrCorps

what does the encryptor program encrypt?

TheDoctor

strings

GamrCorps

Ah, I see

Looks good, just not sure on the file hosting site

Alien G

@GamrCorps Get on Skype.

Doorknob

23:42

18:41 < KeyboardFire> !alex
18:41 <@kfibot> KeyboardFire: [alex-is-wrong]

Alex A.

noooooo

Alien G

@Doorknob It's perfect.

TheDoctor

@Doorknob did you revoke my stars??

Doorknob

did I what now

TheDoctor

I can't star anything

Doorknob

23:45

there's a daily limit

TheDoctor

they reset though

right?

GamrCorps

they reset later today

im out too

TheDoctor

:<

Doorknob

at 0:00 UTC, I would assume

TheDoctor

i ran out last night lol

El'endia Starman

23:46

I think they reset at midnight UTC, which is usually about 8:00 EST.

TheDoctor

6:00 mst? or 5:00?

El'endia Starman

MST?

Mountain Standard Time?

Alex A.

It's 5pm PST.

@El'endiaStarman Yes

El'endia Starman

Okay. IIRC, MST is PST + 0:30.

So 5:30 MST.

Or, to put it more simply, in about 12 minutes from now. :P

TheDoctor

i am ready

Alex A.

23:49

You're not ready.

TheDoctor

rolls up sleeves

Alien G

O_O

El'endia Starman

@AlienG Take a close look at my avatar.

Alien G

@El'endiaStarman XD

TheDoctor

nvm

Doorknob

23:53

uh look like two messages above you

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