The Nineteenth Byte

@DLosc I think the "stars engender messages" part is what I was getting hung up on. It doesn't really make sense to me.

10:17 PM

(Messages (stars (complaints (people stars annoy) make) encourage) engender ) proliferate.

engender
verb (used with object)
1.
to produce, cause, or give rise to:
Hatred engenders violence.
2.
to beget; procreate.

That's why. Stars don't actually produce messages, or cause them.

Dang. I just edited something to realize it had already been rolled back from the version I suggested, and now I can't retract it. -.-

Stars cause messages.

But they don't!

Counter target message, then proliferate

10:19 PM

People make messages because of stars.

Messages cause stars.

It's a feedback loop

Several better words here.

Waait. I actually got approved? O.o

@VTCAKAVSMoACE: What for?

I guess I could replace all the verbs with "arouse".

10:21 PM

Bring about, foment, incite, induce, instigate, lead to, provoke... I think I like instigate the best.

...

I made an obvious edit suggestion on the "Alex is sometimes right" question. c; I added a relevant tag for later searches.

Aw. Rejected. :c

Oh well. I should've seen that one coming. :D

Confusion attention stars terse descriptions people stars posts people like get inspire create get attract to the messages creates leads to debates.

Reading the Irregular Webcomic bonus strips on Pyramid

@VoteToClose If you tried to add the alex-is-wrong tag @Doorknob will whack you with a trout

10:23 PM

@quartata I rejected it as vandalism

@DLosc Not even gonna try. :P

@Doorknob !slap

go go go

gets popcorn

And on the next page:

Awh come on you aren't going to whack him with a trout?

I'm disappointed in you.

@SuperJedi224 Ha! "Don't confuse me with the facts."

10:26 PM

Sorry. There were just two particularly good ones in a row.

Why are moderators "pro tempore" (for the time being) on PPCG?

Death is inevitable.

I mean aside from that...

@quartata because PPCG is a beta site

@Doorknob So..?

10:28 PM

so there's no elections

So mods aren't elected on beta sites

Ninja'd

So when we graduate, we'll have elections and kick them out of office?

I NINJA'D @AlexA.

Yeah

I thought this day would never come

10:28 PM

That explanation makes less sense. Graduation is not inevitable.

@Doorknob Really?

So you guys won't be mods after we graduate?

sob

@quartata you can re-elect us :P

@quartata We will be if you elect us.

God damn

Re-ninja'd

I vote for change

10:29 PM

@AlexA. HA

@Doorknob Ok good.

I like you guys but I want to destroy tips so I have to beat you.

@Rainbolt Even if you don't vote for me, I do recommend at least keeping Doorknob, Martin, and Dennis around.

@Rainbolt You mean make tips questions off topic?

@AlexA. Why wouldn't we vote for you?

@AlexA. I mean silently destroy all of them and then see how long it takes for the community to even notice.

10:30 PM

@Rainbolt I'd notice.

@quartata I feel like I perform somewhat satisfactorily as a moderator, but I'm notoriously trollish.

I wouldn't notice, honestly.

I'd notice the next time I tried to answer in Ruby or Perl.

Or tried to link to the Python tips to explain something I did, or for someone else's benefit.

@Doorknob I feel like this is the point where @Geobits comes in and points out that we're graduating next week anyways.

Geobits

Well we are, so why would I need to say it?

WE AREN'T STOP

10:37 PM

What's the date again, @Geobits?

@Doorknob November 1st, 2^31

Geobits

I've heard both the 1st and the 27th, so I guess we'll know which it is pretty soon.

I just know it's November for sure.

Yep, he's right

geobits-is-not-alex

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@quartata We can hope for Nov 1st, 2^11, can't we?

At this point, we should just make wrong and alex synonyms.

10:39 PM

@Doorknob geobits-likes-java according-to-you-java-is-wrong therefore geobits-is-wrong and-so geobits-is-alex qed

No, it's November 1st, 13*5*31 (a palindrome).

doorknob-is-wrong

>:O

Calvin's Hobbies

You guys have got to stop joke tagging Alex is sometimes right

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^

10:43 PM

Bye guys

> and Stallman created the Church of Emacs

> wat
> ...what do they do there?
> pinky exercises?

lal

emacs-is-wrong

alex-is-right

oh-hell-yeah

alex-is-wrriognhgt

10:44 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Sorry. :c

or whatever it was

@AlexA. I used to like Emacs. Then I tried vim. :wq

haha

vi-is-right

@quartata Append an m and you've got yourself a decent editor.

10:44 PM

mvi? vmi?

@AlexA. vi=vim nowadays

But yes

Calvin's Hobbies

Do we need logic? I would've added it to the alex question (and @aditsu eventually did) but only 2 other questions is pretty weak

Virtual Machine Indenter?

@quartata no it's not

@Doorknob append

Calvin's Hobbies

10:45 PM

I feel a lot of challenge could be tagged logic though.

@Doorknob Installing vim on ubuntu will auto-alias vi to vim.

ubuntu-is-wrong

@Doorknob You used to love Ubuntu.

</3

@quartata try having to use vanilla vi instead of vim and then say that again

@Doorknob I have used vanilla vi.

I didn't like it.

10:46 PM

linux-is-right-as-a-concept-but-fails-on-many-levels-and-is-therefore-occasionally-alex

@VoteToClose What

@VoteToClose ಠ_ಠ

votetoclose-is-wrong

@Calvin'sHobbies Worth taking it to meta I think. I'm kind of on the fence about it. It could be useful for symbolic logic challenges but I think it may get improperly used quite a bit as most challenges require some logic.

> occasionally

ಠ______________________________ಠ

10:47 PM

> fails on many levels

@VoteToClose On what levels does it fail? Keep in mind that if you're a Mac user (like me), OS X is built on FreeBSD.

@VoteToClose ಠ________________________________ಠ

@AlexA. osx-is-wrong

@Doorknob hush you

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. ;)

I have used OS X

10:48 PM

Oh

And obviously you loved it.

@Doorknob I was waiting for that rejoinder ^__^

alex-is-wrong

D:

boolean-logic would be more descriptive that 'logic'.

^

10:50 PM

@Doorknob I have also used OS X.

or possibly formal-logic

osx-is-very-wrong

@Doorknob Yes! I like this one.

os9-is-right

@quartata What OS do you use, again?

oh

10:50 PM

@Doorknob Linux

Which

Ubuntu Studio

no you obviously use OS 9

@Doorknob Not on a regular basis.

I do use IRIX occasionally.

... wait, have you actually? O_o (used OS 9)

10:51 PM

@Doorknob Yeah

I've used them all brah

@quartata /me has never heard of this

Is there any /me equivalent aside of *?

He explained it in here once

@VoteToClose no

Dang.

10:52 PM

unless there's a PPCG IRC channel that I"m unaware of :P

Ubuntu Studio

Ubuntu Studio is an officially recognized derivative of the Ubuntu Linux distribution, which is explicitly geared to general multimedia production. The original version, based on Ubuntu 7.04, was released on 10 May 2007. == FeaturesEdit == === Real-time kernelEdit === The real-time kernel, first included with Ubuntu Studio 8.04, was modified for intensive audio, video or graphics work. The 8.10 Ubuntu Studio release lacks this real-time kernel. It has been reimplemented in the 9.04 Ubuntu Studio release and stabilized with the release of 9.10. 10.04 Ubuntu Studio, in contrast, does not ...

@Doorknob There should be

No

Yes

... we could make one. :P

@Doorknob !

10:54 PM

No

Oui

hey look #ppcg isn't taken on Freenode! \o/

Maybe

I oppose this for absolutely no reason

@Doorknob já

10:55 PM

/me registers it

Did you really?

awww, never mind, I lied. Someone else already did :P

Awh

Who?

doorknob-lied

but I still managed to become an op somehow

10:56 PM

@quartata Me

17:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in fn with ChanServ
17:55 <KeyboardFire> register #ppcg
17:55 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- #ppcg is already registered to Karql.

/me is Karql

suuure :P

I chose it because it sounds like "gargle" and hence amuses me

okay, well ##ppcg wasn't taken. So I registered that

10:58 PM

Really

Really really

18:02 -!- mode/##ppcg [+qr +o!*@*] by KeyboardFire
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> oops
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> did I just op everyone
18:02 -!- mode/##ppcg [+q -o!*@*] by KeyboardFire
18:02 <@KeyboardFire> I'm not very good at this IRC op thing

help I have no idea what I'm doing

DanTheMan

Is there a list of all the moderators on PPCG?

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators

DanTheMan

:)

11:11 PM

@Doorknob how does join

@AlexA. /join ##ppcg

I'm trying to get my old bot working again :P

@Doorknob Just at the command line? Idk how to IRC at all.

@AlexA. no, you have to connect to Freenode first

@Doorknob How

google.com

11:15 PM

> ##ppcg Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services

you need an account

because I set the +r flag in mlock

18:14 <@KeyboardFire> !group add KeyboardFire op
18:14 < kfibot> KeyboardFire: user op successfully added to group KeyboardFire
18:15 <@KeyboardFire> oops

I can't figure out my own bot

I forgot my IRC password ;(

did someone revoke my stars?

Thomas Kwa

> revoke my stars

Mods can cancel stars

Thomas Kwa

that's a thing?

11:25 PM

I haven't canceled any stars today.

I don't know about revoking one's privilege to star.

No idea if that's a thing.

But if it is, Doorknob probably did it to TheDoctor. :P

I can't star anything :<

Have you run out of stars?

not since last night

Hm

and it should've reset recently

New Main Posts

11:28 PM

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Q: An elementary challenge

This challenge is inspired by this Oliver Sacks quote: “At 11, I could say ‘I am sodium’ (Element 11), and now at 79, I am gold.” ― Oliver Sacks I want you you find numbers in a string and replace them with their corresponding elements' symbols. (1 is H, 2 is He, 3 is Li, etc.) There are ...

I'm currently in the process of making a series of questions that have a shared scoring system. Does anyone know of an easy way (or a version I can copy) to make a stack snippet leaderboard for a multi-question series of challenges??

@GamrCorps Nope.

Hey everyone, I have a strange question.

Ok

@Adam Shoot.

11:31 PM

^

Take a look at this bookmark.

What esolang is that closest to?

hahaha

??????

XD

It's certainly the sexiest language I've ever seen.

11:32 PM

^

So do you mean enderland's "pseudocode"?

@AlexA. What about MindF***

Moreso the string I suggested: "XYYXZ"

Ah. Perhaps take a look at Pyth

An esolang that only uses maybe three characters X, Y, and Z to perform basic tasks.

11:33 PM

@AlienG I'm not familiar with MindF***. Perhaps you mean Brainfuck?

@Adam oh, never mind then

@Adam TinyBF

Deadfish?

(although it's not Turing-complete, obviously)

@AlexA. Close enough.

@Adam Well, If you haven't seen this website yet, there is probably one on here: esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page

11:35 PM

@Alex Ah, that might've been the language I was trying to remember.

@GamrCorps I've searched through that a few times and I wasn't able to find anything.

But TinyBF could be one of the closest.

In this challenge, you will write two programs. One of them is the encryptor program. It will be publicly posted on PPCG in this thread, for the cops to see. It can be as obfuscated as possible, but must be reverse-engineerable. You must also write a decryptor program that can decrypt the output of said encryptor. You will keep the decryptor secret for the time being, however, you must post it to a private file hosting site (TBD) that I will use to make sure everyone's submissions are valid.

start of a cops & robbers challenge ^

what does the encryptor program encrypt?

strings

Ah, I see

Looks good, just not sure on the file hosting site

@GamrCorps Get on Skype.

11:42 PM

18:41 < KeyboardFire> !alex
18:41 <@kfibot> KeyboardFire: [alex-is-wrong]

noooooo

@Doorknob It's perfect.

@Doorknob did you revoke my stars??

did I what now

I can't star anything

11:45 PM

there's a daily limit

they reset though

right?

they reset later today

im out too

:<

at 0:00 UTC, I would assume

i ran out last night lol

11:46 PM

I think they reset at midnight UTC, which is usually about 8:00 EST.

6:00 mst? or 5:00?

MST?

Mountain Standard Time?

It's 5pm PST.

@El'endiaStarman Yes

Okay. IIRC, MST is PST + 0:30.

So 5:30 MST.

Or, to put it more simply, in about 12 minutes from now. :P

i am ready

11:49 PM

You're not ready.

rolls up sleeves

O_O

@AlienG Take a close look at my avatar.

@El'endiaStarman XD

nvm