The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

12:00 AM

Disapproving bird

PhiNotPi

@AlexA. Using this (free for non-profit use)

minxomat

"highcharts" sound like a statistics site for weed.

Alex A.

@PhiNotPi You should profit from it. Abuse the license.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

PhiNotPi

Here's the demo that I based mine off of.

Alex A.

12:02 AM

You can do chat strikes with three dashes on either side.

PhiNotPi

~~okaay~~

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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Justin

Why doesn't it work on the main site @AlexA. ?

~~--- ---~~

Whoa. What just happened?

Alex A.

@Justin Your guess is as good as mine.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Were you able to successfully test this?

I'm still super proud of that answer :D

quartata

I need to think of 5 more good string printers... ugh

Hmm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:08 AM

@AlexA. Yes, with a lot of poring over the docs at 0300 XD

Alex A.

@quartata With a 3D printer you could make your own string.

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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What is 0300?

Did I provide insufficient instructions for running and/or testing the code?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Army time - equivalent to 3 oclock

@AlexA. No, I was just tired and my mind needed a 'cane'

Alex A.

Haha

Are you in the army? Why 0300?

quartata

Ah! I thought of one.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

midi

quartata

12:10 AM

It's okay to reuse a language if the program is in a different size range right?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yeah.

Alex A.

@quartata Were you thinking of a number between 1 and 10 and thought of one?

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

quartata

@AlexA. No, I thought of another string printer.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

A printer that prints yarn?

quartata

12:11 AM

A TI-BASIC one that's so strange that maybe just maybe @ThomasKwa won't crack it in thirty seconds

Alex A.

I've read that one of the terms of using some 3D printers is you can't print more 3D printers.

quartata

Mwahahaha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

quartata

Nevermind I just realized why it doesn't work

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Why?

quartata

12:16 AM

Or at least why there is a really easy way to crack it

I might still use the base concept so I don't want to give it away.

Hmm hmm hmm

Just sorting through my esolang directory to see if anything jumps out at me

Sadly Stuck has removed its scipy module...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

quartata

Otherwise I'd do something with determinants

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Want to try simplex? :3

quartata

Maybe

But you'd probably crack anything I made

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I won't answer. crosses heart

Alex A.

12:23 AM

Did you also hope to die and then proceed to stick your finger in your eye?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD Not yet

Alex A.

That's coming soon though, I bet.

quartata

I wish I understood Pyth

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Alex A.

I've written some stuff in it but it's never optimal.

quartata

12:26 AM

It's not stack based...

Very confusing to me

Alex A.

Stacks are confusing to me.

That's why I can't seem to wrap my head around CJam.

quartata

Write it out on paper

Like draw the stack

Then it is easy

Wait people do that?

I love stacks

I do.....

12:27 AM

No

Justin

They don't just keep a mental stack?

quartata

Maybe I'm just a freak

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata I do that too

Doing it now for the cops challenge with ><>

quartata

@Justin I keep a mental stack but if I get confused I start over and write it out on paper

Alex A.

I just avoid stacks, which means I never have to do that. ^

Justin

12:28 AM

Is something wrong with me? I don't get confused....

quartata

No

Alex A.

@Justin If anything that means something's right with you.

quartata

You're just more visual spatial most likely

Justin

But I can handle stacks that are around 8 deep in my mind...

While going through the operations and stuff.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ You are amazing

Justin

12:33 AM

^_^ @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Thank you.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Justin | My pleasure :D

Alex A.

Conor's pleasure

We should really change the acronym in our identicon; PCG stands for the Pentecostal Church of God.

Justin

How about PCoG?

For Programming (puzzles and) Code Golf?

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What's wrong with PPCG?

Maybe P2CG?

Justin

12:38 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Wouldn't that be the "Post-Pentecostal Church of God"?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

...

Listen.

PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPCG

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's the acronym we use but it's not what's in our identicon.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Ahhhh

1 &01 .
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/l?~ \ ! &:& /&! 1 ! +! &! /

Justin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Perfect Permanent Purple Platypus Potatoes Purposely Purported to Prettify Perfectly Priced Planets as Per Planetary Perfectionist's Ported Protocol of Planed Porous Pumice Propelled to Pressurize Prior Panels Posthumously Perfected Pertaining to Pomegranate Pulp Pulverized into Pieces for the Post-Pentecostal Church of God

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Justin

12:50 AM

O.o . I don't think I've ever had +6 on a first-answer within an hour of posting before.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

You spent a lot of time on that, didn't you? :3 @AlexA.

Justin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Look at the timestamps. Says it took 8 minutes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What did?

Justin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Justin What took 8 minutes? :/

Alex A.

12:51 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ On what?

Justin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that was my response

Alex A.

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. The acronym

DAMN

I visually identified your avatars as the same >_<

so sorry

Justin

Hahaha

Thomas Kwa

@quartata If you ever find a good one, I'll spend a day on cracking it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:54 AM

@ThomasKwa TI-BASIC, <=4 bytes, output: 1.3332386.

Just for fun ;)

Thomas Kwa

@Justin I am amazed at your mental ability

hmm

I think that number looks familiar; I'm not sure from where

is it ln pi?

no, that's too small

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Nope, nice try

Thomas Kwa

does it have a two-byte token?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

erm lemme check

Justin

I tried the cbrt(e) but it doesn't work.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:00 AM

@ThomasKwa No, it doesn't.

Thomas Kwa

I tried ISC, it's giving me 1+F(13/25;2/5;1)

I have no idea what F(13/25;2/5;1) is

wait, is it cbrt 2?

no, it isn't

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Nope.

Thomas Kwa

Oh, it sounded familiar to me because there's another number I know close to 4/3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ahhh

Thomas Kwa

That's 2^(5/12)=1.33483985

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:04 AM

You're on the right track with ^

Status

what would be more challenging? checking the time based on the computers local time, or UTC time?

I'm thinking its UTC, but I'm not sure

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Computers

imho

GamrCorps

I have officially done it!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ nice

Alex A.

@GamrCorps Double it and you'll be super metal. \m/

GamrCorps

1:08 AM

thx

@AlexA. lol

next goal

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

s/3/6/g

Thomas Kwa

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I give up

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cool! It's e^(sin^-1(cos(5

Thomas Kwa

I could have coded up a brute forcer, I guess

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Thomas Kwa

1:14 AM

By the way, my 8-byte TI-BASIC cop has 10^11 entropy

It's possible to make one with over 10^12, if my calculations are correct

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o___________o

I already spent an hour using all the commands in CATALOG that have a binary arity.

No cigar.

And now you tell me it has 10^11 entropy. :P

Geobits

@AlexA. What's super metal about 26 badges? ;)

Alex A.

@Geobits It's the... uhh... number of the beast's uncle.

Geobits

I thought maybe 666.26 had some kind of significance :P

It's an awful strange looking decimal point, though.

Alex A.

It's when the beast visits his uncle.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:17 AM

It does. When floored, it is
|
|
|__666.26__

GamrCorps

Does anyone know where 666 actually came from besides me?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I do. It's in the Bible.

Thomas Kwa

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Now that I think about it, it has less, because there are only ten digits

GamrCorps

Revelation 13:18

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ThomasKwa Oh. :P

@GamrCorps Oh, not the exact verse reference :P

Thomas Kwa

1:19 AM

So a brute forcer would probably find a different solution first

GamrCorps

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ lol

Geobits

Two thirds is an evil fraction, so 666 being the mark of the beast thing always made sense to me :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits XD

Alex A.

Why is 2/3 evil?

Thomas Kwa

I salute you @GamrCorps for knowing your slightly obscure verse numbers

GamrCorps

1:20 AM

@ThomasKwa thank you

Geobits

@AlexA. Have you ever tried to cut two thirds of something? It sucks.

Alex A.

Eh, could be worse.

quartata

please tell me you have not already cracked my latest ti basic answer @ThomasKwa

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yeah, like into 1/pi ths

Geobits

Plus, taking two thirds of something could be considered gluttony, when you should be sharing more equally. I hear gluttony is one of those bad things.

Thomas Kwa

1:22 AM

Did you know the Egyptians had a special fraction for 2/3?

GamrCorps

did this chat just turn into numberphile?

Alex A.

Was it represented by a drawing of someone holding a jar on their head?

Geobits

Egyptians were weird in a lot of ways :)

One of my highest scoring SO answers is related to Egyptian fractions.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps I love numberphile :D

GamrCorps

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ me too

quartata

1:24 AM

Please... I will be so sad if you have cracked it already

Alex A.

Quarto is desparado.

quartata

Give me peace of mind

@quartata I have.

XD

Noooooo

1:25 AM

quartata falls dramatically down

quartata

How? Was it the fresh ti 84 that gave it away?

Alex A.

It was so fresh you could smell it just out of the oven.

Thomas Kwa

To prove it, the SHA-256 of it, expressed as hex digits, starts with 0fa1

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

So fresh it would want to make a woman slap you

Alex A.

?

quartata

1:26 AM

I swore this was going to fool you

Alex A.

Thomas is no fool.

Thomas Kwa

@quartata I'll tell you in a day, unless you want to reveal now

I'm a fool sometimes, but generally not in matters of the TI-84

quartata

Go ahead
*sigh*

Thomas Kwa

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A: Tips for golfing in TI-BASIC

Skip unnecessary variable initialization Current consensus is to allow all code to be run on a fresh interpreter. We can take advantage of this—all uninitialized real variables start at 0 in TI-BASIC, and Xmin starts as the possibly useful value -10. So if you ever need to take a running total i...

:D

Alex A.

Little known fact: TI-84 stands for Thomas Is 84.

quartata

1:28 AM

I thought Xmin was so damn clever

^

^

^

^

↓

1:29 AM

←

Thomas Kwa

⇵

Alex A.

↑

GamrCorps

void p(){while(true){System.out.println("^");}}

Thomas Kwa

⤪

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

⇡

quartata

1:32 AM

v p{wh(tr){Sy.o.`7('^

Thomas Kwa

⟲

@quartata ?

Alex A.

That's his golfed Java

Downshaft or something

⍋

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

He took every other character ish

quartata

Same code in Downdraft

which is gonna be great if i finish it emphasis on the word if

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Interesting: det(Nidentity(M = N^M

New Sandboxed Posts

1:35 AM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is Marty McFly here yet? Inspired by this post Back to the Future day is almost upon us. That is, the day that Marty McFly travels thirty years into the future thirty years ago is almost here. So your job is to make some code that informs the user when that is. For this, your code when run sh...

Thomas Kwa

I propose that all uses of ^ to refer to the previous post be replaced with ☝

GamrCorps

^

wait

☝

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

☝☝

Sven The Surfer

@quartata It's fooling me that's for sure

quartata

My Ti answer?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:39 AM

Good night y'all

'night

Y'all

yes

@SvenTheSurfer There are at least four solutions.

Sven The Surfer

I'm still unsure what constitutes as a byte

quartata

1:39 AM

$;"Night!

Alex A.

@SvenTheSurfer Regular ASCII characters are 1 byte each. That's a start.

Some characters consist of multiple bytes, like fancy Unicode stuff.

Thomas Kwa

No, lowercase letters and most symbols are two bytes in TI-BASIC

quartata

Wait four? There should be only one

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa This is why you shouldn't use TI-BASIC. :P

Sven The Surfer

Thomas Kwa

1:41 AM

And LinReg(ax+b) is one byte

quartata

You can count bytes by going to memory management

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa wat i call shenanigoats on that

GamrCorps

or you can just use TI-CONNECT to code and count bytes from there

Thomas Kwa

tibasicdev.wikidot.com/one-byte-tokens

@AlexA. it's 0xFF

Sven The Surfer

oh yeah this is the table I was looking for

Alex A.

1:42 AM

@ThomasKwa No, that's ÿ.

quartata

So wait what are the other solutions

GamrCorps

@ThomasKwa thanks for this, will come in handy

Thomas Kwa

Ymin ZXmin ZYmin

I think those all work

@GamrCorps np

quartata

Oh ok. So still the same idea.

sigh I was so hopeful
Now i have to make anotjer one to replace it...

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. TI's encoding is nonstandard, as you can see

Alex A.

1:45 AM

ಠ_ಠ

Well, so is APL's, so whatevs.

Thomas Kwa

@quartata I was planning on answering to claim rep from the awesome act of posting the solution before you'd composed the challenge

but if you want to change it it's cool

quartata

Mm? What challenge is this?

Thomas Kwa

hm? the Xmin

didn't you say you would edit the post to replace it?

quartata

Oh

No.

Sven The Surfer

I figured it out lol

Thomas Kwa

1:53 AM

Okay, I'll post about it now since chat already knows.

quartata

Go ahead and crack it. I meant i need o make a new printer so I have 3 open

Sven The Surfer

I now realize that's what you were talking about, but that wasn't as clever as I was promised. I just saw -10 from window

quartata

I am trying to win the cops challenge

:P

Sven The Surfer

if a ti-basic code is longer than 2 bytes it's literally over for me

Thomas Kwa

I have four 8s and a 4 out

GamrCorps

1:55 AM

Does anyone know of a way to count ti-basic bytes?

Alex A.

Carefully

Sven The Surfer

I know I spent quite a while doing nothing on the 4 byte one, but I will push on!

quartata

I have a 32 and a 8. But I have a lot more in the pipeline

Thomas Kwa

@GamrCorps Either count them manually (these are one, and all others are two)

quartata

Or use the mem menu

Thomas Kwa

1:56 AM

or type into your calculator, go to the [2nd][MEM] screen, count the bytes there, and subtract 9 plus the length of the program's name.

GamrCorps

@ThomasKwa Ok thx, I was wondering why the length was really high

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