The Nineteenth Byte

Martin Büttner

00:00

I don't know, I didn't test them, but no one left a comment

Doorknob 冰

No serial voting, as far as I can see. Could be robo-reviewing, let me check...

Nope, wouldn't make sense since you can't downvote from LQ review queue anyway. Hmm.

Optimizer

ur mod tools do not tell who did ?

githubphagocyte

@MartinBüttner Unless some of the downvotes have been reversed since, they only appear to have 1 downvote each on 2 questions, and zero downvotes on their other 2 questions.

I still can't see why those 2 downvotes were placed...

Martin Büttner

yes I meant those two downvotes

Doorknob 冰

@Optimizer No, we can only see strong voting correlations / patterns, not precisely "who downvoted this?".

githubphagocyte

00:10

For the primes under a million it's a new answer to a very old question - do some people downvote for that??

Doorknob 冰

Ah, perhaps a Late Answers robo-reviewer. Checking...

Optimizer

its not late

Doorknob 冰

Huh

githubphagocyte

One is 2 years late, the other is recent

Doorknob 冰

Nope, no robos in either First Posts or Late Answers

Sp3000

00:15

Rotation-safe at least doesn't work, I'll leave a comment though

githubphagocyte

How has the list of primes question gone 2 years without the most upvoted answer getting more than 1 vote??

58 answers

top answer: one vote

oops I had arrived on page 2...

Sp3000

:P

githubphagocyte

There are many more upvoted answers...

OK make that 59 answers - someone just answered

Martin Büttner

nothing for 7 hours, and then 3 answers in 15 minutes o.O

(on battleblock theater)

githubphagocyte

The 2 year old primes question had nothing for 2 months, and then 3 answers in the last 3 hours

Sp3000

00:33

@MartinBüttner About what you said I did realise that for 4,5,6 blocks you can toggle X..X, X..X. and .X..X. respectively to increment all of them by one

So Jakube's solution is nice but a few bytes can be saved by dividing the number of possibilities by 4 :P

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 are you golfing yours? ;)

Sp3000

I have 171 for Python currently, but might wait a while :) Interested to seeing other approaches

(I like Doorknob's :D )

Martin Büttner

you don't need to add an explanation to yours right away :P

Sp3000

Ahaha k, lemme see if I can get this down further first...

isaacg

01:08

@Optimizer The issue with the Pyth compiler is a security related one, and my site has been suspended.

Optimizer

ah :(

Optimizer

01:37

oh yeah

Doorknob 冰

@Optimizer Fixed :P

Heh, you can see the snowflake if you hover over my reply.

Optimizer

lol

Sp3000

Reminds me of the good old "hide a message in (255, 255, 254) on a (255, 255, 255) background" days

:P

Optimizer

these are nice. now to a quick golfing round before posting

Sp3000

@Optimizer .

Yeah that is nice :D

Optimizer

01:40

and pretty fast too

githubphagocyte

@Optimizer both looking great

@Sp3000 sorry for the false ping...

Sp3000

:P

Optimizer

evil snowflake is evil

githubphagocyte

@Optimizer revealed

(I can't see them until someone reveals them with a reply...)

Optimizer

I name that one SkullFlake

Sp3000

01:43

Why are you doing this on a white background again? XD

Optimizer

its a transparent background

with css black background

so when you save the canvas image, black does not come :(

githubphagocyte

In here the background is white, so it's completely invisible, and when you click on it and it opens in a new tab the background is light grey, so it's only just visible.

It's like trying to see in a snowstorm...

@Optimizer I kind of like SkullFlake. Looks like some kind of stealth clockwork weapon

Optimizer

with a skull face!

githubphagocyte

02:03

@Optimizer are you going to post it as an answer? Mine's trillions of bytes long but yours looks postable

Optimizer

Just about to hit post

githubphagocyte

:)

Optimizer

0

A: Draw A Snowflake

JavaScript, ES6, 788 bytes Not at all golfed, but finally came around to get this done. A lot of todos. I am only counting the two canvas tags and the function f from the snippet below as part of the byte count. Rest of the stuff is for live demo To watch it in action, just run the snippet bel...

now made the flakes pointing up

Sp3000

02:59

@MartinBüttner Fun bonus question, for what inputs might the output look the same (up to modulo 4)? e.g. 4 -> 0 and 123 -> 123

Doorknob 冰

04:39

Whew, just finished a huge organization overhaul on github.com/KeyboardFire/ostrich-lang. Now time to sleep.

Optimizer

is it still longer than JS ?

;)

Sp3000

08:01

@Doorknob冰 Can I have more chars for CnR? :'(

Sp3000

08:34

Hm.

Hmm actually, I see the problem with more chars :/

Hm...

Martin Büttner

09:55

@Sp3000 that's rather trivial though, because you just need to check if the given solution is valid

Sp3000

No I just mean as a general question about general inputs

Not as a coding challenge

e.g. for 100 blocks or something

Martin Büttner

oh okay

Optimizer

@MartinBüttner How do I stack images in smaller size like you did in snowflakes one ?

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer append an s to the file name

Optimizer

meh

Martin Büttner

10:06

why meh?

Optimizer

coz ... meh ?

Martin Büttner

...

Sp3000

I prefer m for medium

I wish s didn't crop so much :/

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 depends on how many you want to get in a row ;)

Sp3000

But I guess it'd need to to be square

Optimizer

10:08

I added some sample renders

5

A: Draw A Snowflake

JavaScript, ES6, 799 740 695 658 668 I am only counting the two canvas tags and the function f from the snippet below as part of the byte count. Rest of the stuff is for live demo To watch it in action, just run the snippet below in a latest Firefox giving the size and ratio via the input box...

Sp3000

@MartinBüttner I just wish it had an option to be as small as s, but still keep the image ratio without cropping :/

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer looks nice

Optimizer

Yeah, I have to perfect the ratio logic, to claim the 50% bonus

Martin Büttner

oh, the built-in loophole is invalid again :D

Sp3000

@MartinBüttner Is no output okay for no solutions for Battleblock? Might want to comment on Jakube's post

Martin Büttner

10:18

@Sp3000 yes, I explicitly mention that as an example in the challenge

Sp3000

Just checking because Jakube's edit1 :P

Martin Büttner

oh I see

New Meta Posts

1

Q: Should answers to fixed-output challenges be written in a programming language?

We have a definition of what we consider a valid programming language for answers on PPCG. (If you disagree with this definition, please do so on that other post, and not here.) The one type of challenge where people regularly tend to ignore this is for challenges with fixed output, i.e. mostly ...

2

Martin Büttner

@Doorknob冰 are there two new private betas?

ah no, never mind... I think it's because Lifehacks and Economics went public beta

("it" being that nominally there are now 134 SE sites)

Sp3000

Tough meta question you have there

(thinking about it)

Martin Büttner

10:29

I wonder if I should self-answer, although the only argument I have for my opinion is "why should these challenges be treated any differently"

Sp3000

Well I thought the emphasis on, say, kolmogorov was more the information compression

But then I guess if you went down that track then why wouldn't you count zip files or something

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer we've finally been beaten by Pyth on rotation-safe numbers

Optimizer

w go tbeaten last night itself

Martin Büttner

by what?

btw, I've got 42 now

Sp3000

Pyth was posted right after you left I think

Martin Büttner

10:41

@ProgramFOX The purpose of that other question is to define which programming languages are allowed for posts on PPCG (it sort of makes the assumption that posts on PPCG have to be written in a programming language in the first sentence)

Sp3000

I think I might ask the OP about the newline thing. I'm confused whether it means you're allowed to separate by newline (as one of the choices for whitespace) or you have to separate by newline (plus a single whitespace character?)

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 I thought it meant any whitespace, which may be a newline

ProgramFOX

@MartinBüttner Oh, ok. Then I'll delete my answer on your question and repost it on the other.

Sp3000

Oh right CJam doesn't print with spaces normally, that's why you're pushing N

facepalm

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX well the part about raw files is still applicable

ProgramFOX

10:46

Answer moved.

@MartinBüttner Right, then I'll keep that part.

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX regex is already included in Peter's definition

as is SQL

I don't think HTML and CSS count as declarative languages at all. HTML is a markup language and CSS well... a stylesheet.

ProgramFOX

oh, indeed. removed regex.

@MartinBüttner They do fit in the definition.

Martin Büttner

do they really describe the logic of "computation"? or just some sort of structure and layout?

Markup language

A (document) markup language is a modern system for annotating a document in a way that is syntactically distinguishable from the text. The idea and terminology evolved from the "marking up" of paper manuscripts, i.e., the revision instructions by editors, traditionally written with a blue pencil on authors' manuscripts. In digital media this "blue pencil instruction text" was replaced by tags, that is, instructions are expressed directly by tags or "instruction text encapsulated by tags." Examples include typesetting instructions such as those found in troff, TeX and LaTeX, or structural markers...

Style sheet language

A style sheet language, or style language, is a computer language that expresses the presentation of structured documents. One attractive feature of structured documents is that the content can be reused in many contexts and presented in various ways. Different style sheets can be attached to the logical structure to produce different presentations. One modern style sheet language with widespread use is Cascading Style Sheets (CSS), which is used to style documents written in HTML, XHTML, SVG, XUL, and other markup languages. For content in structured documents to be presented, a set of stylistic...

ProgramFOX

@MartinBüttner Structure and markup. But they can be both markup and declarative languages:

> Many markup languages such as HTML, MXML, XAML, XSLT or other user-interface markup languages are often declarative. HTML, for example, only describes what should appear on a webpage - it does not specify the possible interactions with that webpage.

Martin Büttner

okay, fair point

I always took declarative languages to be a class of languages that could actually solve problems like functional or imperative languages :D

Martin Büttner

11:03

@Sp3000 grrr... why can't we come up with something decent for audio processing?

Sp3000

I guess it's not an area people are familiar with - I mean, I don't even know how to process audio files in Python (external library, probably)

I think if all else doesn't go to plan, then sine wave/chord seems okay. It can be a sort of intro to how-to-audio-process for peoples' language of choice

Martin Büttner

lol I just ninja'd you in the weekly challenge chat

Sp3000

I said the same thing 7 hours ago :P

Martin Büttner

you didn't mention further challenges then :P

Sp3000

Now I have :P

Martin Büttner

11:07

heh

Sp3000

I wish I knew more about FFT to comment on that post of yours

(In other news, I'm playing Battleblock's story mode and it's insane)

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 haha, I know, right? :D

it's got quite a lot of content

it also has like 8 different arena modes

Sp3000

I was really confused at first because I somehow ended up on a hard platforming level and kept dying

Martin Büttner

(each with 12 arenas I think)

Sp3000

But this story level's easy so I think I've got the right place

Sounds like I won't be finishing this game any time soon then :P

Martin Büttner

11:17

well, it doesn't take ages (unless you want to go for 100%)

but in the story mode there are 8 chapters, with 10 (+3) levels each, which should keep you busy for like 8 hours or so.

Martin Büttner

12:04

I swear I talked to someone about this recently here in chat: youtube.com/… @Geobits? @Doorknob冰?

Sp3000

12:24

@MartinBüttner I think I get what you mean by not liking merely replacing builtins/superfluous syntax with single chars now...

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 how come? :D

Sp3000

Battleblock. I could beat by porting to Pyth (fyi it's 33) but that's not very fun :/

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 well as long as you shorten/port your own solution...

Sp3000

It is, but I'm just not sure I'd be willing to Pyth every Python solution I write :P

Optimizer

13:04

@ProgramFOX +1

ProgramFOX

Thanks!

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX I don't understand this comment of yours meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/3610/…

@Sp3000 how is BBT going? :P

Sp3000

Well I've paused on the game and started writing my explanation

So how's it going? Long.

Martin Büttner

heh

let me know when you're done with the story mode... there are some achievements you can only get with co-op/online play ;)

Sp3000

Oh? Ahaha k :P

ProgramFOX

13:10

@MartinBüttner I might have misunderstood KennyTM's comment; because I'm not sure why requesting a newyear.png would change what I said in my answer.

So I replied to what I thought he meant. Might be a wrong reply though.

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX I think he meant that if the question asks for a PNG, answers should be allowed to just be that PNG (using PNG's compression)

ProgramFOX

oh, perhaps

I'll just delete my reply and ask for clarification.

Optimizer

@Sp3000 dammit your bounty is ending in 27 hrs.

Sp3000

Yeah :/ Get your submission in for me? puppy dog eyes

There's still the grace period

Optimizer

what grace period ?

Martin Büttner

13:21

@Optimizer you've got 24 hours after the bounty ends to award it

Optimizer

oh

is there a limitation at that point on to who all you can award it to ?

Martin Büttner

no

although I don't think I ever got an answer that was posted within the grace period. but I'm sure you could award it to that as well

Sp3000

Trying to check

Meta post

Optimizer

cool

Geobits

@githubphagocyte I hadn't thought of it that way, but I guess you're right. Since "longest sequence" needs an end, an infinite one wouldn't be valid. That would make it more of a challenge to find the slowest growing sequence, since you wouldn't want to waste time trying to factor really large numbers and could bail on them.

I'd still probably bounty anyone who could show a provably infinite one though, even if that's not the point of the challenge.

Martin Büttner

13:37

@Optimizer why don't you turn your comments into an answer :P

Optimizer

too sleep deprived for that

githubphagocyte

@Geobits Either that or you could make the score the length that can be found ("I've found the first 50 members of this sequence, so my score is 50")

Geobits

True. That would be more in the spirit of things, but it'd probably still be smart to bail on big numbers (since it's timed).

githubphagocyte

I guess that would make terminated sequences desirable as a sequence without a found terminal member would be open to everyone else searching for the next member to claim a sequence one longer

Martin Büttner

Weird secret Windows UI feature #5: Double clicking the icon in the top left corner of a window closes the window. (For extra fun, this also works with windows that don't even have an icon there, like Chrome.)

ProgramFOX

13:45

huh, indeed

Optimizer

firefox is safe

Geobits

Yet another non-intuitive behavior from Windows :D

Optimizer

talk about non intuitive behavior

all those mac gestures!

Geobits

triple swipe in a pentagram for an easter egg

Martin Büttner

@Geobits that's why I'm at #5 :D

undergroundmonorail

13:47

when you click the first time nothing happens, but the second time clippy wakes up and says "someone's having trouble! let's see... clicking in top left corner? they probably meant right"

Martin Büttner

actually when you click the first time, you should get a context menu

(which sort of makes sense...)

undergroundmonorail

shh you're ruining my joke with your facts

Geobits

That only makes sense because there used to be an icon there. Most windows now don't seem to have them.

Martin Büttner

;)

@Geobits yes, which makes it even worse :D

Optimizer

left click context menu does not make any sense

Martin Büttner

13:48

@Geobits are you on 7 or 8?

undergroundmonorail

when you click the first time a context menu opens, but if you click again instead of selecting an option clippy wakes up and says "someone's having trouble! let's see... clicking in top left corner? they probably meant right"

look how much worse that joke is now

Geobits

7, thankfully.

Martin Büttner

ah right, because in 8 I think some more windows have the icon again (including the windows explorer)

but I think I first discovered this in 7 which made it even weirder

Geobits

@undergroundmonorail The joke gets even worse when you have to include that "Close" is the bolded default option and it actually makes sense :P

undergroundmonorail

fine.

new joke: "the windows ui is helpful and intuitive"

look what you did

Geobits

13:50

Ha!

It's funny again :D

undergroundmonorail

;)

Martin Büttner

did Windows 7 still have a desktop icon in the bottom right corner? or was that added in 8.1, I don't remember.

undergroundmonorail

that was in 7

Geobits

Yep, a weird transparent box area that doesn't look like anything.

Martin Büttner

@Geobits ah yeah that's the same in 8, so I think they added the icon in 8.1

undergroundmonorail

13:51

do you guys have a spinning circle for a favicon right now? and "Waiting for chat.stackexchange.com..." at the bottom?

Martin Büttner

yeah, why include a (rather useful) button in the UI, that isn't even visible until you click it o.O

undergroundmonorail

this page refuses to finish loading but i can chat

Geobits

At least it gives a tooltip (and preview on hover if enabled). Still...

Unihedro

@undergroundmonorail Ha!

Martin Büttner

@Geobits it does neither for me ^^

Geobits

13:52

Ouch

undergroundmonorail

i have a tooltip but i accidentally disabled the hover behaviour the other day when i was trying to disable something else and i don't care enough to fix it

Martin Büttner

the other thing I really love is arrow-key controls in the windows explorer

open a folder by hitting Enter, and then try selecting the first item in the opened folder with a single key press

now try that again in a folder which contains only a single item

Sp3000

@MartinBüttner Posted a long and slightly patchy explanation, but I tried to keep it intuitive

Optimizer

but some combinations are really nice, like Windows key + arrows

Windows + P

etc

Geobits

OMG WHY?

Windows + arrow is just plain weird.

Martin Büttner

13:55

@Geobits I actually use that quite a lot

undergroundmonorail

i use windows + arrows all the time

Optimizer

its moving the windows around

intuitive

Martin Büttner

as well as windows + shift + arrow

undergroundmonorail

ide on the left console window on the right or whatever

moving stuff between monitors

etc

Geobits

Okay, windows+shift+arrow makes more sense to me.

ProgramFOX

13:55

@MartinBüttner What does that do? It seems to do nothing here.

Optimizer

not just moving across windows, but to dock them

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX do you have more than one monitor?

Optimizer

like if you want two views side by side

undergroundmonorail

@ProgramFOX get more monitors scrub

ProgramFOX

@MartinBüttner nope

Martin Büttner

13:56

@ProgramFOX it moves between monitors ;)

Geobits

I'm too used to having multiple desktops and multiple monitors. This "moving windows around" concept is basically foreign to me.

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer Windows + number is really nice too

Optimizer

yup

Martin Büttner

or mouse wheel click on a program in the quick launch bar

ProgramFOX

And Ctrl+Alt+Arrow.

Optimizer

13:56

really nice accessibility support

Unihedro

@MartinBüttner OMG

undergroundmonorail

B) B) B) B) B)

Unihedro

You almost gave me a heart attack

Optimizer

@ProgramFOX Ctrl Alt Arrow is not windows shortcut

Martin Büttner

@ProgramFOX ah yeah, that's lovely :D

Sp3000

13:57

@undergroundmonorail I see Neopets

Optimizer

@ProgramFOX it only is present when certain graphics drivers are installed

undergroundmonorail

@Sp3000 yooo

Martin Büttner

@undergroundmonorail my dream setup is four screens... two horizontal above each other in the centre, and two vertical ones on the sides... some day...

undergroundmonorail

@Sp3000 do you play?

ProgramFOX

@Optimizer Yes, I know, but I wanted to post it anyway :P

Sp3000

13:58

About ... er... 10 years ago? I think.

Good times.

Optimizer

ha

also, Windows + F9 is awesome

Martin Büttner

at one point in this discussion I'll try a shortcut that I will regret

Unihedro

I love this

Optimizer

in firefox debugger, Ctrl Alt UP/DOWN is assigned to switching up and down the sources list

:D

Martin Büttner

oh and Alt+Esc is a nice companion to the more well-known Alt+Tab

undergroundmonorail

14:00

you know what bugs me about regex? there are so many things where ("\\" + some_letter).lower() does the opposite of ("\\" + some_letter).upper(). is \w a word character or is that \W? i have to look it up every time

Geobits

@Unihedro Did your crab snip an n from the end of your name? I swear it was Unihedron last I saw.

Unihedro

@Geobits Winter!

Optimizer

Ctrl Shift Esc

undergroundmonorail

oh also, 90% of the time you do ctrl-alt-delete you're looking for

yeah what optimizer said

ProgramFOX

@Geobits He changed his name.

Martin Büttner

14:01

@Optimizer for some reason it usually takes longer on my machine to bring up procexp with that, than with using Ctrl+Alt+Del and clicking on Task Manager

Sp3000

@undergroundmonorail In Python \w is [a-zA-Z0-9_] and \W is the opposite. Just checked the docs

Geobits

@ProgramFOX Joke killer :P

Sp3000

I never use them though :/

undergroundmonorail

@Sp3000 thank you but that was just an example, i'm actually looking for \d or \D right now :P

Martin Büttner

@undergroundmonorail the upper case ones are always the negated classes (which match everything except some stuff)

Optimizer

14:02

@MartinBüttner I just use my thumb to press Ctrl and Shift at the same time and then middle finger to the Escape

undergroundmonorail

@MartinBüttner oh, i didn't make that connection. thanks :)

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 I use s and d quite a lot... w not so much

Sp3000

Oh \s, yes I do use that one

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer no I mean, it takes longer for the PC to bring it up after I pressed it. I don't mean it's harder to reach or anything.

Optimizer

oh

I bet anyone will ever star this message

ProgramFOX

14:04

@Optimizer No, I will not give you that hat! :P

Optimizer

So rude. and that to a llama. Calls PETA

undergroundmonorail

what hat?

2

Optimizer

and Doorknob

@undergroundmonorail wait and see

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 nice explanation for the BBT solver

undergroundmonorail

i mean i got stars yesterday and nothing happened

Optimizer

14:06

today is a magical day

Sp3000

I think that makes sense, right? I get the feeling there's a few gaps to fill but that's the general idea :P

githubphagocyte

@undergroundmonorail Yes but yesterday wasn't new year's eve's eve

Sp3000

@Optimizer Waiting for hats?

undergroundmonorail

@githubphagocyte oh

Optimizer

@Sp3000 only if.

oh, and 10K snowflake takes only around a minute for me :D

githubphagocyte

14:07

@undergroundmonorail don't let that fool you into thinking that I know what they're talking about...

Martin Büttner

@githubphagocyte they're talking about Tam o' Shanter

Optimizer

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer that's actually really nice

undergroundmonorail

man, my workflow for writing userscripts is the worst. i don't like the tampermonkey editor because it tries to indent things weird without my permission, so i have to write it somewhere else and paste it in >:(

Optimizer

oh wait. thats 1K :/ starts on a 10K

Martin Büttner

14:09

@Optimizer lol...

githubphagocyte

@Optimizer That's beautiful. A nicely balanced one

And with a black background... ;)

Optimizer

@githubphagocyte that is because I took a screen capture (print screen) and cropped :P

undergroundmonorail

"post a chat message on 12/31 that gets starred"

i uh

have not done that

Optimizer

and I can give a ratio to tell how balanced it should be

githubphagocyte

@undergroundmonorail It's only the 30th where I am

undergroundmonorail

14:14

same

Martin Büttner

@undergroundmonorail all hats have 12/13 hours leeway

Optimizer

oh, so maybe I will not get the hat if someone stars this

give it a try ?

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer you would

githubphagocyte

lol

undergroundmonorail

no i got the hat

Optimizer

14:14

no

I bet

Martin Büttner

lol

undergroundmonorail

i copypasted from the description it gave me

Martin Büttner

first section:

43

A: Why didn't (or did) I or some other user get a hat although the requirements were (or weren't) fulfilled?

Leeway on date-based hats Unless the requirement mentions a specific timezone, hats that are date-based are often awarded for 12 hours before and 13 hours after the specified date in UTC, to accomodate people everywhere in the world. This means you can earn such a hat even though for you it's no...

undergroundmonorail

oooh UTC, that would explain it

because i was thinking "in 12 hours it's still the 30th here..."

Martin Büttner

ah yeah

githubphagocyte

14:16

I live in UTC so it all made sense to me

Optimizer

u guys are so mean

winter holidays are all about giving , you know !

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer don't complain, you're already leading :P

Optimizer

not anymore

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer but you've got a hat that's basically impossible for me to get ;)

undergroundmonorail

which one is that?

Martin Büttner

14:18

red baron

@Sp3000 did you see my new suggestion for the weekly challenge?

Optimizer

doesn't mean I should let go of easy ones

Martin Büttner

heh

I'm sure you'll say something funny within the next 48 hours :P

Optimizer

Do I ever say funny things ?

Martin Büttner

we'll see

Sp3000

@MartinBüttner Not yet, gimme a sec

Optimizer

14:20

oh wait. I am a Llama!

ok 10K is not possible in JS

gives some unknown NS_ERROR

Doorknob 冰

@MartinBüttner Umm, no, not that I recall

Martin Büttner

@Doorknob冰 hm, who knows... :D

Optimizer

trying 6K

@MartinBüttner @undergroundmonorail not all hats have that leeway. Only the ones in which timezone is not mentioned. For example Bill Lumbergh can only be achieved on a UTC Saturday and Mistletoe, only on +/- 5 min of UTC new year

3K ^

Martin Büttner

14:41

@Optimizer interesting... as for my code, 1k particles seems to be somewhat of a sweet spot for nice snowflakes

@Optimizer yes, that's why I linked the meta post for exact details

Optimizer

15:25

@MartinBüttner what do you mean by that ?

Martin Büttner

@Optimizer I think that the 3k don't look better than any of your 1k results

same for my code... 10k looked much worse than the 1k results

Optimizer

oh yeah

but I can tweak all properties

let me see

also, the result is different most of the times

as its... random..

Martin Büttner

well yeah, but with the same parameters you'll probably always get structures on the same scales, and I think the length scale of the structures for 3k is just too fine

Optimizer

length scale ?

Martin Büttner

well most of the subbranches of the snowflake are all roughly the same size

and I think they are too small, which leads to the snowflake looking to homogeneous in the end

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