You know, I am wondering whether this site is for enjoying arguing about what belongs on this site or for enjoying programming challenges, stupid or not.
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@ProgramFOX Though please do confirm that it's actually me on Klout first, and not one of my friends trying to get me punched. The great thing about this douchebag deadman switch is that I will never dare trigger it.
@ProgramFOX Ma'am, I admit that wasn't in the best taste, but you have to admire my delivery! Ha ha, get it? Oh God, don't throw those syringes! Your baby's fine!
@mniip It's really only restricted-source. So far all three attempts have been popcons, but in principle there's nothing stopping you from creating a code-golf, code-challenge, fastest-code, hell even KotH using the duct-tape concept.
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@m.buettner Hmm. That sounds like a very good way to determine whether it's the challenge type that makes a post interesting, or the actual content (which is what we want).
Unfortunately we don't have a close reason for "not interesting enough."
@Doorknob yes, but then again, the "hello mom" one was a good challenge, because of the novelty of the duct-taping thing. that one was more about the general idea of duct-taping than about the underlying problem, so it's fine. is it fine to shift those criteria for follow up posts now?
@m.buettner Hmm. I suppose the challenge type could have some effect on how interesting the challenge is (by restricting the code in some way), but then we'll be flooded with "print 'potato'" duct-tape-coding "print 'pickle'" duct-tape-coding "print 'pie'" duct-tape-coding
@m.buettner But then how will we close them? Downvotes don't prevent answers to a question.
I think we should leave this one open for now, because it has additional value over "hello mom" because the goal is much harder to accomplish with duct-taping. but if the next one is "multiply two numbers", I'd suggest closing as duplicate because the challenge adds nothing new over the first two and the challenge is just posted for the sake of duct-taping itself (and we had that).
@m.buettner Perfect. So the first post in a new and interesting category will be fine, but further trivial posts in this category (even if they're not really related to the previous one) can be closed as a dup, unless they add something new. Duplicates don't have to be carbon copies.
yes, exactly. if the challenge adds no new value over existing ones, it's a duplicate. once two or three have been posted and it's becoming apparent that the new challenge type is becoming a recurring thing the underlying algorithmic problem has to be held to the same standards as any code golf challenge would.
and I think it's a more general question of how we can deal with new challenge types in a controlled manner without code trolling happening all over again. the danger of people using simple problems to reuse the challenge type is just one aspect of that.
don't have time to edit in a proper sentence into the doc, but in the answer, please don't focus on "print x, print y" stuff. the real question is how do we argue that "multiply two numbers" is a duplicate of "hello mom".
@TheDoctor The way out is to use the marker you have to add a box that says 'get a marker' to the line between you and 'start', then add a 'no' line from the trap box to 'end'.
@ProgramFOX This image stays roughly in sync with the day (assuming the Earth continues spinning). Shortcut: xkcd.com/now
"By long-standing tradition, I take this opportunity to savage other designers in the thin disguise of good, clean fun." -- P. J. Plauger, from his April Fool's column in April 88's "Computer Language"
@Trimsty Let me look away and type 'guy who's just jealous that I beat all his MarioKart times' and turn back, and ... yup, there you are again!
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