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2:08 PM
My proposal is somewhat related to this MSE question
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Q: Proving that $81$ $K_4^3$'s cannot be packed in a doubled $K_{11}^3$

Parcly TaxelThe sequence $T_{2,m}$ in Guy's 1967 paper A problem of Zarankiewicz describes the maximum size of a collection of $4$-subsets of $\{1,\dots,m\}$ such that every $3$-subset is in at most two of the $4$-subsets. It had not been added to the OEIS until the time of my work on Zarankiewicz's problem,...

The only salient difference is that there is no doubling in my proposal and the latter is exact
 
@lyxal Public pools are disgusting imho. The floors in the locker rooms are always wet with unidentifiable objects everywhere, the bathrooms are always dirty because some idiot was never toilet trained, the smell of chlorine is everywhere, and people are walking around naked. And in the pool itself, you've got people sweating and peeing and spitting right in that same water. There are bugs and random unidentifiable things in it, and the things out of which water comes are dirty and rusty
 
@user I went in such a pool last month and it wasn't unpleasant at all
 
@ParclyTaxel Which proposal is that? The Sandbox draft that came up just now?
@ParclyTaxel Really? I envy you
@user (well, above your comment, not just now)
 
@user The one I put in the sandbox, yes
@user I am a Singaporean and the pool was at the local yacht club
 
@ParclyTaxel Ah, I was confused because the username there is ThisFieldIsRequired
 
2:21 PM
I mean the pool is not quite public, since it is in a yacht club
 
@ParclyTaxel Wait, you swim at yacht clubs? I thought you'd yacht there
The absence of screaming kids would probably make it much more pleasant
 
What happened was my mother booked a trip for the family to that yacht club, which did include a little boat trip to Pulau Hantau
(The RSYC or Republic of Singapore Yacht Club, which happens to be not far from my university NUS)
The yacht club has a hotel which we also checked into
and the hotel comes with a pool, which is the one I waded into (besides the actual sea)
 
@hyper-neutrino Yeah, they now show the license beside the post in all sorts of places
They made quite a few changes after the licensing backlash
@emanresuA Licenses don't let you do anything. They let other people.
You can license something under as many licenses as you want.
The problem here was that SE was changing the licensing on our behalf, and no longer showed that the posts had been licensed under CC 3.0 (since anyone using an old post under that license is still legally allowed to do so)
 
@user There were some screaming kids, but I didn't get bothered by that
Also let me introduce myself stack-wise
You might have noticed that my MathsSE rep is within the top 100 all-time. That is my "home" stack
Then in mid-2021 I joined Puzzling Stack, and I have a good deal of puzzles there
 
@user Where do you live?!...that sounds considerably worse than any public pool I've seen
 
2:35 PM
And now I am in this PPCG SE
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Maryland now
@ParclyTaxel Welcome to CGCC! (it was renamed from PPCG to Code Golf and Coding Challenges)
 
I'm old enough to remember the old name, but I do acknowledge the new one
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Although I wouldn't describe any of them as being particularly nice
And I hate pools in the first place lol
 
It doesn't help that I really, really dislike walking on wet surfaces, so it's probably not as bad for some other people
 
All of my math teachers have said that they hate when students do math homework in pen.
Wonder how they'd react to paint and a paintbrush.
 
2:47 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I finally understand your pain.
 
D:
I hate how few test cases they give you
I think I got that exact same set of fails on one of them, too
CMQ: Worst writing instrument to do math homework with
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Chisel and stone
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Handleless lightsaber
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Only an absolutely overconfident madlad would do math homework in pen
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani a compass but without the pencil part
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani blood.
@AaroneousMiller its not that bad
 
2:56 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani blank paper.
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@thejonymyster now that you all are here im curious, what do you think of this mini meta?
 
@AaroneousMiller some man just chiseled down an entire mountain, without anyone's help
 
@AaroneousMiller I also tried for an hour to solve a desmos program
and always only 3 out of 4 tests were working
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I'm an expert in this field.
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani pencil
 
So 2% of the time I forget the Checkered paper at school
and have to use lined paper
and it's worse than drawing maths homework on a computer with a mouse
 
3:02 PM
@mathcat yall use checkered paper?
 
yup
@PyGamer0 what d'you use?
 
well here we use ruled paper, (we stop using checkered paper from 3rd grade)
 
WHAT?
for maths???
well you have experience
 
@mathcat do you mean graph paper? or do you use a paper covered in black and white squares
 
@thejonymyster like a chessboard?
@mathcat i mean for me its better
 
3:05 PM
@thejonymyster well idk what's it called in English
 
@PyGamer0 of course, that is what checkered means, i thought
 
yea, we call that graph paper where im from
because we use it when we need to graph
 
Oh, ok
@thejonymyster I can't remember if we used that in primary school too
 
i google "checkered" and chessboards show up
 
3:08 PM
but we're still using it now for everything in maths
or maybe
 
but "checkered paper" does show graph paper
 
I'm the only one
 
@AaroneousMiller I realized that my algorithm was flawed, and would only work for certain numbers, so I came up with a better algorithm, and got exactly 1 more testcase correct :/
 
@thejonymyster it just seems like a bad use of the word, but it's probably normal where you are
 
@thejonymyster probably not
because we don't speak english in germany
I just thought it might mean checkered paper
 
3:10 PM
that's fair, i can see how you might think that
i think that languages are confusing :)
 
I think JS is confusing
 
JS is a language, therefore it is confusing :p
 
i couldnt agree more. and so i wont
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@mathcat Wait I know why I said it
"kariert" means checkered in english
 
does anyone know what you call the gel you have to take off pens before you write
 
3:17 PM
A stopper ball
 
to the one who thought of this epic name that actually makes sense: legend
 
i guess it is a ball, and it does stop
theyre on my mind because i just saw one, i didnt mean to suddenly derail
and now i have to go to work. goodbye! o/
 
@thejonymyster I see no need to
 
o/
 
I would give a bounty to outgolf me in Covfefify a string if I had more reps
 
3:37 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani for some reason it bothers me i guess
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani piece of cheese
 
@null im willing to assist you with some rep
 
noice
Because I'm frustrated
I'm going to add explanation
 
I can't think properly this morning
should i say choose the one you least hate the most?
or choose the one you least hate the least?
 
3:54 PM
wait
 
@SurpriseDog the second one makes more sense in english
 
> I'm going to add explanation
Now I'm not
 
@SurpriseDog it should be "choose the one you hate the least"
you only need one "least" to make your point
 
isn't the second one a double negative?
 
it is, i assumed it was a mistake
 
4:00 PM
exiting.
 
Well this is a first...
 
A scene from the film:
 
we got spam on meta?
 
@DLosc are they linked or is it coincidence
 
4:07 PM
that's almost a first. also i take it the issue is over now?
 
@hyper-neutrino no, but close
 
lmao how are they not qblocked
aight imma just destroy their account and if we get hit by a spam wave like that again i'll ask chq to turn up the autoflag on our site
 
Meanwhile, I challenge everyone to: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/242162/87986
 
@thejonymyster They're sort of related: the messages all have to do with tinylisp being LotM (most of them are edit notifications on the list of tinylisp answers); the rep is an upvote on one of my old tinylisp answers.
 
Anyone have feedback on this challenge?
How can I make it more clear?
 
4:16 PM
@hyper-neutrino Wait really? An answer, presumably?
(Since NP didn't pick it up)
 
NP did pick it up
all 5 times, in fact
 
adam's trashed them already lol
 
?
 
Quote of the century: "?"
 
4:18 PM
Was it a new user
 
@Adám you moved spam out of this room lol
 
Not sure if the +5 is still required for posting questions
 
@hyper-neutrino Just doin' my duty as RO.
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani i can't remember
i don't think they had rep tho
 
Ah, ok. If it was someone with like, +20 or something, I'd be worried they just left their account logged in in a library or something
 
4:20 PM
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Q: Coding Puzzle to simulate theatre ticket booking experience

user3383301I have a requirement, this is simulating theatre ticket booking experience. Requirement: Input given will be in form of a 2D array Second input will be no of tickets to be filled Fill People front row to back, starting from left to right. Fill the aisle first, then the corners of the theatre the...

 
Does anyone actually like that the SO blog exists?
 
I know that it exists
But I haven't read anything
 
I feel like it's basically 90% product placement at this point
 
really?
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani they visited one IP 6 times and no other IPs so i'm pretty confident it wasn't that
actually now that i recall, before i destroyed them i checked and they had no other (undeleted) content so ye probably a new user
 
4:25 PM
This is basically just an ad for Teams and Progressive Insurance
 
@NewPosts this user already has an SO account with 1.8k rep
why would they ask it here?
 
Probably because it's a "coding puzzle" and not a real-world problem.
 
@NewPosts Oops, this doesn't have a single close vote
 
4:40 PM
It looks like a nice puzzle, but it probably has to be reframed
 
4:56 PM
> If python3 example.py takes more than 1 hour (86'400 seconds), ...
 
Can I use Markdown in bounty messages?
 
Yes, some
 
I know you can use links, not sure about other stuff
 
I know links at least work
 
5:11 PM
Thanks. I always get nervous when there's no preview option and no ability to edit after clicking OK. :)
 
imgref
What's the 12167 under my name?
 
your network-wide reputation
 
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Q: Reversed Multiple Pair

Bgil MidolIntro Two numbers are a reversed multiple pair if they satisfy the following property: $$ a\times b = reversed( (a-1)\times b ) $$ Here, \$reversed()\$ means to reverse the digits of a number (e. g 123 becomes 321.) Example $$ a=6, b=9, 6\times9=54,5\times9=45 $$ As you can see, \$45\$ is the rev...

 
sum of reputations?
 
sum of reputations across all sites, but not including association bonuses (boni?), I think
 
why is there suddenly so much spam
 
someone (with higher rep than me) should post a challenge which at first looks like a bot
 
@GingerIndustries i think we're in a global spam wave right now
 
5:24 PM
and they say global warming isnt real
 
My direct sum is 12590, 600 of which is association
 
@hyper-neutrino ???
 
@user ??? for the ???
 
What's a global spam wave?
 
as in SE is experiencing increased amounts of spam everywhere
 
5:25 PM
A bunch of additional spam all across the world (or SE in this case)?
 
well by global i mean all SE sites, not quite literally the whole world, lmao
 
Oh
That doesn't make sense, why would spammers like coordinate or something?
 
@user Cans of SPAM are washing up on beaches worldwide
 
There was a spamvolcano, which led to spamquakes, leading to massive spamtidalwaves that are washing up on our spamcoasts
 
5:26 PM
@user it is probably just one spam service turning on an array of bots to spam
 
Oh
@DLosc The fish are rising up!
They've had enough of oil spills and trash
 
@l4m2 That message is part of a conversation about how votes and views work, and therefore is not spam, even though the conversation was inspired by a spam post. However, I'm sure a room owner would be happy to trash it if you want them to. :)
 
@l4m2 at first glance, it doesn't appear to be related to the spam bot messages
so probably it was an accident
 
theyre drilling underneath my office. cringe
 
5:32 PM
They're gonna fill the tunnel with diseased pigs and light them on fire to collapse your office's outer walls
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Classic siege tactic
 
okay, that message caught me way off guard
but now im not sure which one i should star
i'm off to fight the horde then. wish me luck
 
pour boiling oil on them
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani ಠ_ಠ
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani ಠ____ಠ
 
Y'know the shared back-end code for RTO that AviFS and I are writing?
We've given it a name now: OISB (Online Interpreter Shared Back-end)
And I'm about to write last few parts of OISB 0.0.1 and test it
 
5:38 PM
OEIS: Online Environment for Interpreter Systems.
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my phone keeps buzzing from Smokey while in class ಠ_ಠ
This is not a convenient time for spam
Speak of the devil
 
On the bright side, it looks like we'll have cookies pretty shortly :P
 
Does anyone know where to get the fkey on main?
Aha: StackExchange.options.user.fkey
 
should we block unregistered users from posting?
 
No, we've been nuking these in seconds. I don't think it's needed.
These cookies should be done in no time :p
 
5:51 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani i always wondered what you were baking
honestly i was just about to ask
i thought it might have been a userscript that automatically changes the text
 
Finished a userscript that should allow me to spam flag with a keyboard shortcut
Don't want to test it though for obvious reasons lol
 
Do you guys know a good Scala tutorial?
 
ive never seen a chat cc before
 
It's not really a cc, the message just pings user and then when they look at their pings they'll realize Redwolf was drawing their attention to the message above it.
 
6:06 PM
@mathcat I've used Learn X in Y Minutes for a few different languages, and I've found it to be pretty good. I haven't checked out their Scala tutorial, but I would assume that it is of similar quality
 
Thanks Redwolf
@mathcat The Scala site's got quite a few pages, hang on one sec
 
And of course the spam wave has subsided as soon as I finish my script and sit here for half an hour waiting for spam to try it on
 
It's a bit incomplete, but it'll give you the basics
 
tried, but didn't understand
 
If you have specific questions, you can ask in the Scala chatroom too
 
6:08 PM
nice
 
Oh yeah
 
found it, thanks
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani lets make a bunch of socks to test your script
that probably wouldnt backfire at all
 
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Q: Should trusted close/reopen voters and reviewers have their votes weighted more than others'?

CatijaIn Q3 2021 I finalized my research around three vote close/reopen and I was pretty happy with the outcomes - as were the sites that got to test it out. While the benefit to each site was different, the most important thing was that there were no negative impacts of that test and all of the sites ...

 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani This already exists I believe
 
6:10 PM
I'm sure it does yeah
But for stuff this simple it's easier to write it myself
Ctrl + Shift + Backslash just sends a request to /add/PostSpam
 
For starters, SE has integrated keyboard shortcuts
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Q: Keyboard shortcuts are now integrated into the site

balphaOriginally we had implemented keyboard shortcuts as a user script. We have now finally made the change to have them integrated into the site. When you go to the Edit Profile & Settings page on your profile, and then select the Preferences submenu, you’ll find a new checkbox labeled Enable keyboa...

 
I don't like the shortcuts though
 
dont reinvent the wheel... Unless, of course, the wheel is bad and needs to be replaced...
 
@hyper-neutrino guess I'll go murder OSP :P
 
is that an acronym or username
 
6:14 PM
Yes :P
 
ninja'd
 
"This is getting out of hand. Now there are way more than two of them!"
- hyper-neutrino, probably
 
OSP stands for OldSandboxPosts, a bot that posts week-old Sandbox answers once a day :P
 
I never got to use my sock :(
I made one called xally but never got around to writing answers with it
 
6:15 PM
but yeah, it was getting a little out of hand
 
Got to love spam waves
 
It keeps saying "questions with new activity" but then no additional questions are added. Anyone know what's going on?
 
We're deleting them almost instantly
 
What kind of questions were they?
 
6:16 PM
Microsoft support scam spam
 
oh
not coinwave?
 
Or, if you want the full things, the MS reports in the Mod Office: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/129590/cgcc-mod-office
 
interesting
 
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Q: Using resource exhaustion with a semi-deciding algorithm

AnttiPLet's say that there is a standard code-golf question where you: Have to find a solution that satisfies some constraints (eg. a math equation, etc.) Or, if a solution doesn't exist, output the nonexistence of a solution (by erroring, returning -1, etc.) There are no explicitly stated limits to the

 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Nice, Catija finally posted this!
Personally, I agree that as people get better at closing, they should get a little extra power/weight on their vote, but I'm not sure about a metric to measure "getting better at closing"
Also:
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Q: Changes to answer sorting menu: moving menu, "Newest" sort option, renaming sort options

Anita TaylorOver the coming weeks, we will be making some changes to the menu that allows you to sort the answers to a given question. We are making these changes based on a user survey that indicates that the names on the current sorting menu are confusing. This work is also part of the Outdated Answers pro...

 
6:27 PM
Higher rate of questions that they voted to close and actually remained closed?
 
Newest sort should be really nice for this site - too often answers get buried when sorting by score, and bumps/explanation edits can push them down when sorting by active as well
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Mods: :( we're not special anymore
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, and
 
Absolutely
 
We haven't had any good in a while
 
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Q: Inverted ragged list

AnttiPGiven a ragged list of positive integers, where the maximum depth is \$d_\text{max}\$, return the same list, except for every element \$e\$, its depth is \$d_\text{max}+1-d_e\$ (where \$d_e\$ is the depth of that element). Your output should contain the minimal number of brackets, and you can ass...

 
6:36 PM
WW and I were thinking about rehashing Add a Language to a Polyglot with better rules about having easily-usable interpreters.
Sure, the old one's still alive, but
 
@emanresuA on request i don't even use my close hammer here much; having more weight given to people who are more trustworthy and experienced is a change i greatly welcome
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

JustiniscodingPrime Number Fibonacci In this challenge, you will make a program that calculates the Fibonacci sequence with a twist. Instead of it starting with 0 and 1, it starts with the nth prime number determined by input by the user. The second number is the nth+1 prime number. The sequence should also st...

 
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A: Things to avoid when writing challenges

LynnThe prime numbers We have 226 questions about prime numbers at the time of writing. Almost every single one of these involves some adaptation of the “canonical prime checking code” or the “canonical prime generator”. Primes are notorious for not really conforming to any mathematical symmetry in ...

I try not to abuse my dupe hammer - I generally wait until someone agrees with me.
 
Yeah, it does feel like a dupe of the normal fib challenge tbh
 
@NewPosts I wonder if this is regexable
 
6:42 PM
It's also either extremely trivial or extremely painful, depending on which language you choose
 
@emanresuA i really hope it is, that would be cool. i think i see the trick for it as well
 
If you get a gold tag badge before 3000 rep, do you still get a hammer?
(It is possible to do so, as far as I can tell: Post one answer and get thousands of upvotes on the same day, so you're capped at 200 rep. Then post a ton of 0-score answers)
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that... is an interesting question
i doubt it; i feel like you wouldn't be able to cast a close vote
or you could just bounty away all your rep
brb making a sock and bringing it up to a gold tag badge just to bounty away all the rep for science
 
I wonder if it would not show the button, but still allow you to do it with a POST request
 
i hope not but knowing SE that wouldn't be too surprising
 
6:52 PM
Wait could you suspend someone with a gold tag badge to get their rep to 1 so they can try that out?
 
no because suspended users can't do anything
unless they're a mod
 
suspend yourself
 
mith says that <3k users with a gold tag badge can hammer
@user been there, done that
 
@user They did that already
 
6:53 PM
ninja'd
 
Well, if I get a gold code golf badge some day and get hit by a bus, y'all have permission to bounty away all my rep and try it
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brb going to Texas and throwing USBs at everyone I see :P
 
!!/spam-prevent
 
7:22 PM
have yall heard of LOLCODE?
I'm working on learning it for code golf, but imo it's missing some important stuff.
 
I've heard of it yeah
 
lol
 
So I'm going to pull a Redwolf and completely overcomplicate things by making an entire new language
 
LOLCODE is an esoteric programming language inspired by lolspeak, the language expressed in examples of the lolcat Internet meme. The language was created in 2007 by Adam Lindsay, researcher at the Computing Department of Lancaster University.The language is not clearly defined in terms of operator priorities and correct syntax, but several functioning interpreters and compilers exist. One interpretation of the language has been proven Turing-complete. == Language structure and examples == LOLCODE's keywords are drawn from the heavily compressed (shortened) patois of the lolcat Internet meme. Here...
It's got a wikipedia page
 
@GingerIndustries noice
 
7:24 PM
Which is rare for esolangs
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani TECHNICALLY it's a weirdlang
but anyway
what shall I call this new LOLCODE
 
You should make a katlani-based esolang
Call it katlalcode
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani If Redwolf gets hit by the college bus, we all get our tuition paid for by his rep :P
 
I will call it PXLCODE after my cat
(prounounced pixelcode)
 
i was gonna say "LMAOCODE"
 
7:26 PM
@Fmbalbuena ?
Foot?
 
step 1: find python LOLCODE interpreter
step 2: hack it
 
Are you a foot who exclusively speaks in lolcode?
 
lemme just make a new room rq

 The Pinnacle of Amusment

A room to learn about PXLCODE, GingerIndustries' updated LOLCO...
 
i can haz updated lolcode?
 
7:30 PM
@GingerIndustries kthxbai
 
@DLosc o/
 
@GingerIndustries im in yr comptr, watchin you code
 
Any feedback? Now that tinylisp is Language of the Month, I'm gonna finally post this challenge soon.
 
> I like golfing in tinylisp
Are you sure? I've never seen you use it before :P
@DLosc Have you considered including the "super parenthesis" (I think that'd it's name?) as something to include?
@DLosc Can we take input as a nested ragged array? e.g. ['d', 'E', ['q', [['n'], ['i', ['l', 'n', '2'], ['s', '1', 'n'], ['E', ['s', 'n', '2']]]]]]?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Tinylisp is old
 
7:42 PM
I suspect this is going to gather downvotes fairly quickly :/
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing hey look it's already at -1
 
*-4
 
You're behind the times, it's now at -4
 
What now it's at -1 again
 
@emanresuA black magick
 
7:45 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing obligatory link to this again
 
I've upvoted it, not necessarily cause I agree with not rolling it back (I'm indifferent either way), but because I'm happy it shows clear evidence that SE is listening and reacting to feedback on changes
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing No, because tinylisp doesn't have that feature.
 
> 9
> 20
> 11
> 12
clearly, much care went in to writing this answer
 
i did the markdown backwards like a dunce -_-
 
@pxeger Aka, they mistyped a 2 as a 1?
 
7:47 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Hmm. I'm inclined to say no, because a significant part of the challenge is , but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yes
doesn't seem like it was proofread very well
which is emblematic of the fact it wasn't written very well (because it's the wrong answer)
 
Fixed, happy?
 
@pxeger This isn't a legal document wtf do you expect
 
@pxeger That's unfair
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing But fixing it makes my snarky comment invalid
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7:48 PM
Good
 
> This update has been carefully written by Ben Kelly and reviewed by the CM Team
I wouldn't ordinarily complain
 
SE: Updates thing
Users: This sucks, talk to us next time
SE: Let's discuss this new thing
Users: You made a typo don't even talk to me
 
but if you're describing your post as "carefully written and reviewed", it'd better be
 
You may disagree with the change all you want, i don't really care. But, it's clear that they've gone over the feedback provided, and have shown real effort in balancing their attempts to fix their code debt and add responsiveness, while being yelled at by hundreds of users. To ignore that because "oh look, a 1 got typed as a 2, pff", nah, stop with that bs
 
what I want is for them to not describe their post as carefully written as though it matters
I don't actually care about the typo
 
7:50 PM
What problem do you have with them describing it as carefully written?
They were almost certainly talking about the content itself, not playing a game of spell-check-with-friends
 
Yeah, the "carefully written" means "We're trying to write this as fairly as possible, showing that we really do respect your feedback, and that it isn't flippantly telling you no"
Different understandings of the work "carefully" I guess
 

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