The Nineteenth Byte

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12:19 AM

@DLosc fetch(...).then(x => x.text()).then(eval)

It actually worked

12:31 AM

Ok wtf is fontawesome doing?

They're making people pay money... for icons.

12:45 AM

Is there a difference between O(1) and O(0)?

Doesn't O(1) mean that, for a constant k, it's the same as O(k)? Seems like that'd fail for O(0), as it'd always be O(0) for any constant?

i'd imagine that O(0) would describe only operations which literally do not take any time at all yeah

Seems like O(0) would mean it takes zero time

What about O(-1)?

That undoes time

12:51 AM

Kinda want to put that on the Jon Skeet memes paeg

It's locked

Oh true lol

In fact, it's been locked for over 10 years :P

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A: Jon Skeet Facts

When Jon Skeet programs in Forth, it automatically becomes First.

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Count the ways to transform (3), Count the ways to transform (2)

1:01 AM

What about Count the ways to transform (1)?

Presumably got edited more or less recently

pretty sure it's on main

or not?

Nah, I blame the frogs

Q: Count the ways to transform

could have sworn i saw a challenge titled count the ways to transform on main like a day or two ago

wait yeah no here it is

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A rigid transformation of a square array is a mapping from square arrays of a certain size to square arrays of the same size, which rearranges the elements of the array such that the distance to each other element remains the same. If you printed out the matrix on a sheet of paper these are the t...

There's not much point in having a sock if everyone knows who it is

Do y'all think Glorfindel has a fanatic userscript?

(Because he has it on every site)

1:07 AM

The only real point of having a sock is to test things as a new user

And confusing people

@allxy IIRC, he does, but as a side effect of an actual user script. Can't remember what the main thing it does is, but, as a consequence, it logs him in to sites daily

Smokey autoflag maybe?

user

1:20 AM

@allxy Speaking of which, when are you going to stop using this sock? It's kinda confusing

After a bit of pain, I've got Risky working on DSO

nice

Time to add dotcomma / ultrarisky

Oh, and setup the custom bytecount interface

Anyone got any (JS-based) languages you want on there?

not that this actually affects what i can suggest but does it have to strictly be js-based or would something in like wasm also work

Probably not

I don't think surge.sh supports hosting .wasm files

1:24 AM

sad

If they're hosted somewhere else I might be able to do something

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code-golfdecision-problemarraygrid (undecided title, will update when I think of one) Background In a 2d game that I play, each screen is a 2d grid of tiles with walls and walkable tiles, with the player only able to travel on walkable tiles, and being stopped by walls. When the player walks past...

1:43 AM

@user btw thain't me

my alt has an actual chat bio

There are two allxys (allxi? allxus?) in town now

oh hey we need a new LoTM

@WheatWizard looks like Curry is language of the month

We do

@emanresuA Nice!

It's on my end only though

The custom bytecounter interface is also working

user

1:53 AM

@lyxal I know, that's what makes it confusing

current DSO is barely usable

user

@emanresuA Is it possible for you to run languages written in Python using a Python-to-JS transpiler or a Python interpreter written in JS?

@emanresuA Barely usable >> unusabl

Looks pretty good right now

You can interpret deadfish

@user Possibly, but those are generally a bit hacky

Lyxal's tried getting Vyxal into JS

There's empythoned

pyjs

that's what I've heard exists

2:01 AM

pyjs is python 2

medium.com/swlh/…

Looks like it was translated to Python then back to English.

Vyxal 2.6+ is probably impossible

Because sympy

And I think 2.4.1 uses numpy a bit?

Wrong way round :(

Razetime

it is Curry time, I think?

no nvm there are 4 different langauges at the top of the LotM thread

Tiebreak is date

Wait no, looks like it's tinylisp @DLosc

2:24 AM

Power series = pain

They're somewhat elegant and somewhat annoying

2:59 AM

I think I've got ultrarisky working but I'm having difficulty testing it.

I figured out how to add two numbers in one byte

And I'll post it once I've deployed DSO

Ugh 1 bytes

3:26 AM

f

Easy fix though

<span id="s">s</span>

would certainly hope so

...

Got to love a +28 rep change, and it's from 3 different sites :P

classic

+10 here, +10 MSE, +8 Puzzling

3:32 AM

+3 here

Oops wrong account

+3 on emanresu

Find it very interesting this: it's 3:30am here, and my room overlooks a courtyard in my accom, and, being on the top floor, I can basically see all the windows of the other flats around the courtyard. A surprisingly large number still have lights on

I wonder, at what time does "light is on" switch from "still awake" to "just woke up"? :P

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I find it very interesting that code golf is more important than sleep to you

No, I just can't sleep :P

Because goddamn screen time limits, DSO will be deploying at some point tomorrow.

Public swimming pools are an interesting thing - you have a sort of organised chaos consisting of individual groups of order.

And I never know how best to conduct my own individual group of order amongst the masses

Like seriously though how tf you meant to swim by yourself and not be awkward af?

3:45 AM

you don't

You declare war on the eight-year-olds on the inflatables

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@UnrelatedString too late, I already did

Spend 3 minutes continuously peeing to establish dominance

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@emanresuA I'm seeing a very distinct lack of 8 year olds and inflatables right now

@lyxal :(

3:46 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing you do that?

Yikes.

@lyxal Only in pools I've never been in. Every other pool already knows my place as Supreme Chlorine Ruler

guys can i post a (tips for golfing in seriously?) post?

I think that exists?

@cairdcoinheringaahing see now that's the problem. You're assuming I'm at a chlorine pool

This is a salt water pool

Yuck.

3:48 AM

i think there was a seriously tips but i guess mego was the one who posted it

@lyxal niiiiice

@UnrelatedString it's very convenient that it's right next to an ocean lol

lmao

@UnrelatedString Nope, can't find either a seriously or an actually tips

@cairdcoinheringaahing Seriously?

Yeah, Actually

3:50 AM

come to think of it i'm pretty sure there was a unified tips post for seriously and actually

I kinda want to make a fork of unsure with only adverbs

er so i dont post it?

An interesting pattern I've observed about the pool I'm at is that kids pushing other kids off a centralised bridge is an inevitable occurrence

@DialFrost does anyone still use it?

sometimes

but not much at all

...

which is part of the problem

3:52 AM

if you want to pick it up you should probably wait until you have tips to post yourself before making a tips post

thats kinda tru

because aside from stuff that generally applies to stack languages you probably won't get other people pitching in

tru

Who's want a picture of the pool I'm ay?

considering not only does nobody currently use it but most of the old answers have ceased to exist

3:53 AM

*at

Sure

i would like one

i see

It's looked like that for several decades

3:54 AM

@emanresuA Imagine needing 16 bytes, when it can be done in 10

It hasn't changed much since I was a kid

so it's less a saltwater pool and more just a not-a-beach on the ocean

Not exactly

It's more of a bathe

a bathe

Well, it _is_a bathe

@UnrelatedString it's called the Newcastle bathes

Although I might be spelling that wrong

3:56 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I see. In a future version of Vyxal it'll be 10 as well

Relevant issue

@emanresuA Imagine having future versions, instead of just forks that may one day be pulled into the language, but probably not, and it's likely to never change :(

If it's any consolation, Jelly (fork) is slightly golfier than Vyxal

@emanresuA Do you not have a "primes to N" builtin?

@lyxal wikipedia seems to call this a "sea bath"

Nope. Infinite lists work though

3:58 AM

Cause a,b,c can never exceed N, so you don't need an infinite list

@UnrelatedString that's not it.

i'd assume it's a related sort of thing

newcastle.nsw.gov.au/explore/recreation/beaches-and-baths/…

@cairdcoinheringaahing AFAIK we don't have that builtin

definitely does not look like the picture you sent lol

3:58 AM

@UnrelatedString Two different places

@emanresuA How about "take first N"?

I think that should work

so i can post it if i alr know some stuff?

like ways to golf e.g.

@UnrelatedString The baths are a public swimming pool that gets cleaned every Wednesday and is actively funded by the government. The bogey hole is a little hole that has stairs and railing but no lifeguards and you swim at your own risk.

ah

@DialFrost If you have tips already, yeah, its fine to post. The problem is when people like a language but don't have tips, so just post something that's never going to get answered

4:00 AM

:(

and good tips can be few and far between

@UnrelatedString also, they're about a kilometre or so away from each other

no, tips are usually further apart than 1km

Imagine TNB without replies

@cairdcoinheringaahing dumbass I meant the place I'm at and the place unrelatedstring linked to

4:02 AM

ah, my brain packets haven't updated yet, I just get raw HTML contentappear in my brain and nothing else ofr each message

my bad

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nerd. I get bitstreams.

i thought it was deliberately ignoring the reply for comic effect

@cairdcoinheringaahing You should be able to read the reply indicator at the start of the message though and access the message cache

So it sounds like a you problem

@UnrelatedString (it was, but these nerds don't undertsand humor :P)

😔

4:03 AM

shaking smh my head

Q: Tips for golfing in Seriously

Y'all want a beach picture too? Because I've got one

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4:29 AM

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I am looking for tips to code in this golfing language Seriously, and was wondering what some of the ways for golfing this language is. "Remove comments" is not a tip. Thx in advance!

tips seriously

4:44 AM

my tips arent very good lol

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Risky, ultrarisky, in floop and unsure are on my version of DSO

1 hour ago, by emanresu A

Because goddamn screen time limits, DSO will be deploying at some point tomorrow.

@allxy =o

@emanresuA Nice! I think you're better at remembering that my esolangs exist than I am

You have a thing called github.

Oh yeah, that thing

4:47 AM

Hey so remember those beach pictures I sent and how they were sunny?

Ooh is it has clouds/

It ain't sunny no more

You probablt stole our clouds

I twas has rain when I walked home and the top of my hair was wet and the rest of my was dry

4:48 AM

Heavy rain now

@taRadvylfsriksushilani ParseError

See y'all in the morning

o/

I had a dream about some sort of thing last tnight and I forgor ir

It had to with xkcd a bunch of rocks

And possibly a homemade lightsaber

Anyway o/

Hello, World!

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A: "Hello, World!"

Seriously, 1 byte H Try it online!

4:50 AM

WR; miao (intj): "meow"

miao

I dreamed about playing Age of Empires II last night. I think I dreamed I played part of the game in my sleep or something, because I don't remember most of it, but somehow when I came to I was winning.

Wrong room

@Hello,World! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

wait was user45941 mego
i thought all of their posts were deleted by request

...

4:53 AM

Apparently not

Their network profile still exists too

... it is. not sure what happened

:|

according to https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/admin/posts-by-deleted-user/45941 actually the majority of their answers aren't deleted

oh wait i forgot

they can't have all of their content deleted i think

they requested it but i don't think it went through. granted, i believe they reverted their licensing change (or at least didn't retroactively apply the licensing change, because i am 99% sure that is literally illegal)

Are there any licenses that allow you to change the license

but the main issue is their network profile still hasn't been deleted

@emanresuA probably the wtfpl

4:56 AM

I gues that kidna undermines the point of licensing though

should i get my copyright and licensing nerd friend in on this convo

@hyper-neutrino Please unfreeze the tinylisp room :D

he should have just submitted several college applications like half a minute ago so it might be a good way for him to relax :P

@DLosc done :D

tyty

5:09 AM

Today was the first time in my life I've seen steam coming off a road

Like actual steam coming from water evaporation

Because it's that hot

So that rain I mentioned? It stopped.

The sun's back and it's back in full force

Q: Language of the Month for February 2022: tinylisp

Here comes the sun... doodoodoo

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In accordance with our meta agreement, since one candidate received more votes than the others, we have a new featured language! Throughout February 2022, our Language of the Month will be: tinylisp What's a Language of the Month? See the meta post for nominations. In short, during February, th...

discussion language-of-the-month

5:25 AM

@lyxal wow

@NewPosts oh boy a new grind

bruh hyper neutrion deleted my post

Seems like you've accidentally posted the same thing twice. I'll delete this one for you (the other one is this post).

he said this

although theyre 2 diff posts

Ugh dotcomma's surprisingly hard to steal

5:43 AM

@DialFrost yeah that's my bad, sorry

the bot flagged them as identical and i'm tired so i didn't notice they were one character off

(well, if I were paying attention, they're not under the same question but the N and H aren't different enough that i noticed lol)

BTW, you should flag it so i'm more likely to notice. or just ping me here

@hyper-neutrino Bad mod. Go to sleep.

@hyper-neutrino no, you're hyper-neutrino

goddammit

just when i forgot about that

it is what it is

Milk

6:18 AM

someone made BF in TPT O_o

Wow

6:33 AM

guys how do u solve this

You must print the location of point # in a Cartesian plane of h height and w width composed of * as normal points, | as the y-axis, - as the x-axis and + as the origin in "(x, y)" format ( ex. (1,2) ).

NOTE the direction of axes is (x to right, y to top)

Milk

yeah, someone should make A BF interpreter in minecraft

Input
7 16
*****#******|***
************|***
************|***
************|***
************|***
------------+---
************|***
Output
(-7, 5)

Minecraft: Redstone Brainfuck Computer

TIL the Times bought Wordle

Milk

►

ok wow really cool

@allxy who are you??

6:56 AM

please stop using socks. they're fine to have a bit of fun but every time i've checked this room there have been socks on my page and I don't even have to backread and it's getting to be annoying to keep track of, so since none of you have a legitimate reason to be using a sock, i'm going to just ask that everyone stops

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sorry to ruin the fun but it's getting a bit out of hand

7:33 AM

CMQ: Is vectorising range a good idea? I want to make it so that I in flax on lists does the same thing as APL's iota.

7:45 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Vyxal vectorises ranges

@hyper-neutrino Fine, I'll see myself out.

Frick, I thought I left

there you go

...never mind

I'm instant-rejoining...

How do you log out again?

can you log out?

Ok I'm logged out on all sites but still there

@ROs can someone kick allxy?

@emanresuA is it useful?

7:57 AM

Sometimes

@emanresuA whose sock is allxy?

does leave room not work?

@emanresuA example?

im pretty sure im the only person below 1k to have top 30 month reps

well it's only been a few hours

also this user has gotten all of their rep within this UTC day, so you're not

8:02 AM

awwww

sad

@hyper-neutrino does jelly vectorise ranges?

yes

@hyper-neutrino yeah, it just rejoined

hm. well i don't see it on the list anymore

Wait… it’s gone now?

Ninja’d

8:09 AM

yes

and what about the xkcd countdown?

It’s over

and...?

oh its what if 2

i have the paperback versions of how to and what if

Same

9:40 AM

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Solve Rubik's Clock Another Rubik's challenge! But this one is different. From the hand of Erno Rubik - the cube guy - there is another puzzle. In fact, there are many more. In this challenge, your task is to solve Rubik's Clock. Rubik's Clock is a round(ish) puzzle with two flat sides. On each s...

10:28 AM

Hello, would a challenge asking to make a Steiner quadruple system be OK?

One of fixed size, but it could be any system (not a fixed one)

So long as it isn't a duplicate of anything already asked here, and that it's well specified, it should be fine

Searching for Steiner Quadruple System on the site doesn't seem to return any existing challenges so you're fine on that front

If you end up writing a challenge make sure to put it in the sandbox first

10:45 AM

CMC: Model APL's monadic iota primitive for scalars and vectors.

@PyGamer0 Nice challenge, but you should either describe it or link to a spec. APLs differ.

11:16 AM

@Adám Dyalog APL

or NARS

OK, so the spec is basically:
If argument is number or 1-element list: range for that number
Else: outer product of ranges for each number

yes

I think I wrote one in JS once.

> outer product of ranges for each number

i dont understand this part

{⊃∘.,/⍳¨⍵}

11:33 AM

oh

thanks

11:57 AM

Fun fact: log2(~x&-~x) gives the xth term of the infinite ABACABA... sequence

12:07 PM

@Adám I don't know how to convert that to BQN. ↕¨ does not produce a simple list, so I can't fold over it D:

I did it in Jelly though

@PyGamer0 ∾⌜´↕¨

@pxeger log2(x&-x) also gives the xth term, but 1-indexed

@Adám mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/…

i think in flax it should be I¨,⌜´

@PyGamer0 I only gave you the translation of {⊃∘.,/⍳¨⍵} to BQN, not an implementation of APL's ⍳

@Adám wdym

12:26 PM

@PyGamer0 You said you didn't understand the outer product part, so I explained it in APL. Then you said you didn't know how to convert that to BQN, so I did.

ö

12:41 PM

@hyper-neutrino ootl: wtf is a sock in that context?

Sock = sock puppet account = alternate account

Chungus

For example, this is a sock account

@lyxal nah its the socks you wear on your feet

so they’re just alts then

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Output a Steiner quadruple system Background A Steiner quadruple system $SQS(n)$ is a collection of subsets (or blocks) $Q_1,\dots,Q_k$ of size 4 of a set $S$ of size $n$ such that every subset of size 3 is in exactly one of the $Q_i$. It is easy to show that an $SQS(n)$ can exist only for $n\equ...

12:44 PM

→ 3 support call phone numbers moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

whew, made my proposal up there

@Fatalize yes

@ParclyTaxel Welcome, and thank you for using the sandbox.

How do I flag a user?

@ParclyTaxel Is it me or does the math not render in your proposal?

(only the very last line does)

Well it works on Puzzling and MSE, I don't know

12:46 PM

@Adám I don't think you can, other than raising a Moderator Intervention flag on one of their posts

I have already flagged

@pxeger OK, done.

pretty sure mods can nuke accounts rightl?

Of course they can. But where are the mods?

idk

12:49 PM

@hyper-neutrino Are you up?

@Adám thanks

He’s busy spamming coinbase customer care

Wanted to try investing in crypto, but not so hot now

Whoa, even re-editing. They are actually monitoring their posts!

ThisFieldIsRequired

I really hope google didn't index this phone number...

12:53 PM

> It's Okay bro I never post on this website:)

??

ThisFieldIsRequired

better keep it that way

is this the worst spammer you have experienced?

can mods ip ban?

@ThisFieldIsRequired I think it's just there seems not to be a mod online this instant

otherwise they'd be banned already

Maybe I should have run for mod…

> So nice to litsen?

what

12:57 PM

I asked for help in Charcoal HQ

ThisFieldIsRequired

Looks like the damage has subsided.

Oh well. Guess that means I can close the tab of copypasta I have ready to do a little trolling with

→ more spam moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

well that was interesting

What is the Bakery for?

1:00 PM

trash

It's a trash room that doesn't ping you if you happen to have any of your messages moved there

I don't actually know why it's called the bakery

Which is weird because I usually know the origins of cgcc memes after 2020

Q: if the way to create custom control is good

Dec 22 '15 at 22:34, by New Sandboxed Posts

HELLO I AM BOT FEED ME BUTTER

May 21 '21 at 14:58, by caird coinheringaahing

→ 1 stick of butter moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

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I'm trying to create custom control, all what I need is check if that good way to create it: using Syncfusion.Windows.Forms.Tools; using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.ComponentModel; using System.Data; using System.Drawing; using System.Linq; using System.Text; using Syst...

c#

Ginger Industries

👋

@NewPosts well I don't know, is the the the is the is the good the is the the?

1:20 PM

@NewPosts strange they are on SO for an year

1:32 PM

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