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10:07 PM
@HelkaHomba You are right. Even if we find situations where the relativity doesn't work, the new theory explaining the new observations would probably be an amended version of relativity. After all, relativity has worked in most of our experiments, so it can't be absolutely incorrect.
 
My challenge has so many edits that were not done by me
 
I don't think the universe is even TC anyway
 
It has to be
 
no it doesn't
 
It made TC languages and TC tarpit
 
10:09 PM
yes, but there are no perfect implementations of them
that's like saying foo is TC because it can output a spec to a TC language
 
A True TC language has not been built, none have infinite memory, and it can be assumed that none have infinite processing time.
 
@fergusq do you also go chasing after perpetual motion machines? Thermodynamics might be wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@ConorO'Brien No that is not a typo that is a brainfart
 
@ASCII-only same diff :P
 
@DJMcMayhem permanent
@DownChristopher hm, ok
 
10:12 PM
@DestructibleLemon I'd say that it would be Really Cool to have a perpetual motion machine.
 
> Really Cool™
@DownChristopher sorry if they're bad ones, I think me and albert were both just trying to clarify
 
@ATaco Yeah, plus it is not possible to have infinite memory
 
@ATaco I mean, it's possible to do so, if the universe is infinite. Make a physical turing machine that, when it needs more space, it requests it, and robots harvest materials to add to the machine. It would pause until it had the materials. Given infinite time, the robots could spend a long time looking for the right materials (or any) and return
 
Unless the universe is infinite.
 
ninja'd
 
10:14 PM
@ConorO'Brien when people say the universe is infinite I don't think that means there are infinite planets
I think it means you just don't hit a wall
 
still infinite space
 
well, they can't make infinite space into memory
you need stuff to be in there
 
Even if it's possible to head in one direction finitely, (ignoring obstructions), it's possible that the universe loops in a sort of 3 dimensional Möbius strip, or it could just go on forever.
 
@ATaco No it doesn't
 
I was thinking it was hopeless to use matter, as there is a finite amount of it. I did think, however, you could use energy
because you can subdivide it
but then you got the plank energy and thermodynamics to worry about
 
10:17 PM
Plus there's a finite amount of energy as well
 
@Riker I don't care it all helps I was just thinking it a bit funny
 
@ASCII-only yeah, the plan is you make the numbers out of really insignificant digits
like for example you have two atoms, which every time you increment a counter it halves the energy of the atom
 
@Riker I have a permanent one and I can barely notice it at all.
 
Ugh, pp::Var doesn't have a move constructor. Why has Google abandoned PNaCl
 
but yeah thermodynamics and plank energy
hmmmm, actually, could you use the distance between atoms?
or just a bunch of atoms, anyway
I think measurement is the way to go for a TC machine
in the universe
just the whole issue of moving yourself around and stuff
hmmm, yeah that won't work either will it...
 
10:32 PM
 
10:52 PM
omfg that's amazing
@DJMcMayhem ;-; i just got mine on and owwwwwww
@DJMcMayhem can you chew gum with your retainers on?
@flawr random thought: I wonder how many messages that are of the form "(@flawr|@Riker) <link>" get starred
and what the cumulative star count and average star count are for all messages of that type
 
@Riker @Riker very low, @flawr also very low
 
@Riker Haha, I think that would be a task for mr starman's database:)
 
@ASCII-only 2 things: that doesn't ønly have messages with links, and that doens't show either of what I wanted :P
I think the average would be pretty low, but I'd expect around 10-15 cumulative for @riker vs @flawr
 
@Riker oh brb
 
@flawr I'll leave it to a better SQLer than I :p
@DJMcMayhem nvm found out the hard way gum is a ridiculously bad idea
 
11:00 PM
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Q: Pandigital Pi Proximation

SparrHow accurately can you approximate π in an arithmetic expression using the digits 0-9 once each, and as many operators and punctuation as you need from ()+-*/.^? ^ represents exponentiation . represents a decimal point that does not require a leading zero Example solutions, from this PI Compet...

 
:o nj
lol average of 0.15 stars per message
flawr (i.e. "@Riker" pings) has 2x as many stars per message on average, but I ("@ flawr") pings have twice as many stars total (and around 4x as many messages total)
 
@Riker I can. Maybe mine is just a smaller retainer
 
sticks pretty badly to my retainer
taht's why
 
@Riker uh but you're no the only person that pings flawr
 
11:11 PM
oh true
1 sec
I've pinged flawr 45 times, 6 stars total, average of 0.13333 stars each
he's pinged me 20 times with 8 stars total, average of 0.4 stars each
thanks for the query @ASCII-only :D
 
yah, pretty much what I came up with
 
I have Registered to the CodeJam~
Let's hope they give bonus points for Golfiness.
 
@ATaco spoiler: they don't ;P
 
11:53 PM
@ATaco what is... the CodeJam~?
 
@DestructibleLemon Google Code Jam
 

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