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@muddyfish Oh, somehow I completely failed to connect the dots. Oops.
 
(sorry for the pings)
 
Anonymous
It's alright
 
So that means they are working on it, since those posts weren't active for some time.
 
Anyone needs ideas for new questions?
 
10:11 AM
Hype
 
Ideas out for giveaway:
1. Teach alphabet to children
2. Fizz, Buzz, FizzFizz?
 
@Fatalize It's possible that they saw one, and now that they have a precedent, they're asking multiple such that when the site design does come on November 1st, it comes out to our specifications.
 
As long as upvotes and downvotes are not goats, I'm fine with any design
 
So.. our site is finally graduating?
 
It has already graduated
 
10:13 AM
Site design is just taking a very very long time.
 
Everything we agree: memes
 
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Q: Congratulations, you're graduating!

Grace NoteIt's a big day, and I know you folks have been waiting a reeeaaal long while. Double waiting, you might even say, since unfortunately we made you wait even longer after initial news. But, let's make it official! You've been cleared for graduation by the Stack Exchange Community Team! Programming ...

(not posted by geobits)
 
Everything we dont agree: swapping the upvote button with the flag button
 
Just so we're clear.
 
Welcome, me, to my increasingly not forever leaving from TNB. :P
Anyway, I got nothing to do. :(
 
10:18 AM
@zyabin101 would you use one of my question ideas
 
@MatthewRoh Which ideas? :3
 
"Programmatically teach children the alphabet"
 
(I've left the main s--- DA FORGET THAT YOUR HATE)
@MatthewRoh Okay. :3
 
Hello!
 
I need a lang where there are 26 reserved words corresponding to each of the 26 letters.
 
10:20 AM
šŸ‘
 
I clearly have the best site design anyway
 
the only one who claps like šŸ‘ <= this is kim jong un
 
@VoteToClose question closed for being too vague
 
@VoteToClose Dont forget changing those 'o's into eyes
 
@VoteToClose You are a mod with a mod inbox in your SuperCollider? :O
for i in list("ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"):
    print(i + " is for " + i)
 
10:28 AM
can hyperlinks contain javascript scripts?
 
A is for A
B is for B
C is for C
@MatthewRoh javascript:alert(1) yes
 
That's how bookmarklets are made.
 
I mean can hyperlinks contain those
 
@MatthewRoh Yes.
 
10:30 AM
[alert urself lmao?](javascript:alert(1) )
I mean like this format
 
@MatthewRoh In chatdown, js links don't work.
[See for yourself](javascript:alert(1))
 
ahh.
Then what about comments?
 
Idea: conduct a Scalatron Koth, using either PPCG or chat.
 
@orlp Let my function f be defined by the function described by this challenge. My sequence is defined such that term n is defined by f(n), where the sequence is one-indexed.
I have no idea how to describe this.
 
@zyabin101 like codingame?
 
10:38 AM
The sequence whose members are defined by interpreting n's representation for the sum of distinct elements of a 1-1-2-tribonacci sequence as binary?
 
@MatthewRoh It's a bot war, like CodinGame, but it's all of cross-platform (Java and Scala, duh), FOSS and easy to get running in.
At least, kinda easy.
You must go through the Tutorial first.
 
meh
 
@VoteToClose Make the sequences apart.
 
@zyabin101 What do you mean by this
 
Wait...
Not much sequences are used in the challenge. :/
 
10:43 AM
@zyabin101 Uh, it's defined by summing distinct members of the tribonacci sequence.
 
@VoteToClose Decimal value of n in the Tribonacci base
 
Ah, sum distinct members!
Like a[1], a[1] + a[2], sum(a[1..3]), ...?
 
@Fatalize Not accurate, I don't think. It's the decimal value of the tribonacci base interpreted as binary.
And "base" is not the correct term for this, I think.
@zyabin101 Please read the challenge. xD
That's just the tribonacci sequence.
 
I've got a game KoTH idea :)
 
@VoteToClose Oh k....
 
10:45 AM
@Qwerp-Derp Sandbox away!
 
Uhh so you're a player on a grid with a "producer" that spawns 1 soldier/turn
You can either: make/upgrade producers (which in turn creates more soldiers), or move soldiers around
Or you can conquer surrounding lands
With your produced soldiers
 
@Qwerp-Derp How?
 
Uhh you can move your soldiers to the land, and it will be conquered
 
I assume "attack".
 
@Qwerp-Derp What does the former cost?
 
10:47 AM
@zyabin101 Thinking about it
 
Someone here with an Intel GPU and Windows 8.1 or 10?
 
Probs starts off with 5 to make, and then 10 for upgrade (2 soldiers/turn), 15 for 3 soldiers etc.
 
@mınxomaĻ„ I'm here with ATI Mobility Radeon and Win7!
So no.
 
@mınxomaĻ„ How do I find out what GPU I have
 
@Qwerp-Derp RTD.
 
10:49 AM
How do you not know?!
 
@mınxomaĻ„ Shut up i'm bad with hardware stuffs :(
Uhh I have an intel processor
 
@Qwerp-Derp Look in the "Computer" dialog and find the specs for your device.
I don't use Windows often, but iirc that's how you get to it.
 
Open the device manager and look under "display adapters"
 
@VoteToClose I know how to do it in Win7 but Im not sure if it's different in Win10
 
I did not remember correctly.
 
10:51 AM
@Qwerp-Derp ^^
 
@mınxomaĻ„ Yup it's Intel
What havoc do you plan to wreak on my innocent laptop? (jk)
 
@Qwerp-Derp Can you try this: workupload.com/file/aWzW7dG? It should just show a fullscreen grey window (exit-able with ESC).
 
Experiment: choose five random letters
Any letters.
 
Well if that isn't sketch I don't know what is
@zyabin101 sktch
 
@mınxomaĻ„ I'm half scared
@zyabin101 qwerp
@mınxomaĻ„ Do you have source for the thing I'm pretty scared :(
What is it meant to be even?
Uhh nothing happened I'm really scared :( :( :(
My mouse just moved up diagonally to the left
 
10:54 AM
That's good. Nothing displayed?
 
Yeah, I don't think so
 
@mınxomaĻ„ What is the program meant to be for? What did you write it in?
 
C++. It's a simple GLSL renderer.
 
Oh.
 
11:06 AM
@VoteToClose sequence already exists
only thing different is the indexing offset
they start at 0, 0, 1
you start at 1, 1, 2
no, the hardest part of submitting an OEIS sequence is finding an interesting sequence that doesn't already exist in OEIS ;)
 
@orlp That's not what I'm doing. :I
I know that the Tribonacci sequence is already in OEIS.
Basically: Take the 1-2-3-tribonacci sequence representation of a number, interpret it as binary and the interpreted value is the member of the sequence.
The sequence looks more like the asymptotic density of the zeta(2) - 1.
@orlp I start at 1, 2, 3, by the way. ;P
 
Scalatron is super dumb.
It wants to die.
It doesn't know what is "Build" at all.
So pro tip: Don't use Scalatron. If I must use that sometime, I'd QUIT programming if that were the case.
 
12:02 PM
WarriorJS is super dumb when things come to level 4.
So pro tip: Don't use WarriorJS. If I must use that sometime, I'd QUIT programming if that were the case. (Hey, that's too much hate from programming games.)
 
Bro, even games hate you now?
You should stop all the drama.
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and leave the Internet forever. well played.
 
what?
 
12:17 PM
The hate and drama have grown to an uncontrollable level.
It ends only abruptly, with me leaving chat or being forced to leave chat. This effectively cuts me from my right to be able to contribute to the Internet.
All chats should have been private from the beginning.
 
...
 
...... ...... ...... This could continue forever. I can only do one thing.
 
@zyabin101 No it doesn't. We gave you many chances to improve yourself which you ignored. You didn't make any effort to change. Until you do, we'll keep showing you the door if things get to excessive.
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@mınxomaĻ„ Today I read an article in a swiss consumer magazine about insecam.org but it seems they (the magazine) did not have any clue what they are talking about...
 
Yeah, that's a neat site.
They at least claim to check the content before publishing a new link.
 
12:32 PM
@VoteToClose ah
 
12:59 PM
Is anyone here interested in Magic: the Gathering?
 
1:09 PM
@zyabin101 Do you have a bot asking this question at a regular interval?
 
No.
 
I was interested in MTG for about 5 minutes, before I saw the price of cards
 
@VoteToClose That is the name of a school I used to go to :D
 
Realized what you said. nvm :P
 
1:35 PM
in Minecraft and Minetest, 10 secs ago, by zyabin101
I have two ideas: one at a large scale, and one a not-so-large scale.
Which to start with?
 
The medium scale.
 
There's no point in creating chat rooms for specific topics if you then copy paste messages from that chat room in here...
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@VoteToClose can you elaborate on this?
@VoteToClose maybe this sequence can inspire you a bit? oeis.org/A005351
@VoteToClose also why don't you start your sequence with 1, 1, 2?
 
1:58 PM
I think because starting with 1,1,2 doesn't quite fit with the sort of binary like representation due to repetition
 
@LliwTelracs that doesn't really mean anything as there already isn't an unique representation if we drop the 'bigger numbers first' rule
for example 6 could be 6 or 1+2+3
 
@LliwTelracs There will always be a binary-like sequence for any given member sum that abides by the conditions.
@orlp That would also be valid, but it would have different outputs.
There are 4 tribonacci sequences which are valid in this way.
No 4-term or more fibonacci sequences exist that satisfy this.
 
@VoteToClose no, infinitely many
 
@orlp It must start with 1, and must always be positive.
 
e.g. 0, 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 6, ...
oh no, not infinitely
you do need 1
but 0, 0, 1 also works
(0, 0, 1 is the same as 1, 2, 3, just the first three digits in tribonary will always be 0)
 
2:14 PM
And also, the ratios between must always be 2 (with a few exceptions: see Exceptions to Brown's Criterion)
@orlp It's the same as 1, 1, 2. :P
 
oh wait, I thought 3 would come after 1,1,2
>.<
but obviously it's 4
 
Yeah, it's still a valid sequence, but different outputs.
 
@VoteToClose but can you elaborate on the zeta thing
 
@orlp Oh, it just happens to be accurate to this sequence for 30 members, then it differs every once in a while.
This isn't the tribonacci sequence I'm referring to, but the sequence whose members are each a binary interpretation of the tribonacci representation as the number represented by the tribonacci representation increases.
I'll make a spreadsheet for you.
 
2:35 PM
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Q: Is today a real weekday?

Joachim WeißFeb. 6 was a real weekday. Because it lies in the 6th week of the year. So a real weekday is a day with a a day number that equals the week number. But not all country have the same counting of weeks. in Germany a week starts with Monday and ends on Saturday in the US they start on Sunday. Writ...

 
for the unique binary-like possible ones would it be 1,2,4 1,2,3 1,2,2 1,1,3
 
3:08 PM
in Germany a week starts with Monday and ends on Saturday
 
Can confirm.
 
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Q: Decimal to Tribonacci to Binary to Decimal

VoteToCloseBackground The Tribonacci Sequence Imagine for a second that you could make a fibonacci sequence by replacing the standard iteration formula with the following: Basically, instead of summing the last two to get the next, you sum the last three. This is the basis for the Tribonacci sequence. ...

 
So Sunday doesn't exist?
 
What's a "sunday"?
 
It's a day when the sun is out and shining
 
3:11 PM
You are not supposed to look at the sun. You must concentrate on your work.
 
wait. There are places where the start of the week isn't Monday?
 
yes and they are very nice places
 
why is Sunday a logical start of week?
 
@muddyfish It isn't.
 
'Murica
 
3:20 PM
Sunday is supposed to be the closure. We even have a saying for that: Erst die Arbeit, dann das Vergnügen (work before joy basically).
 
Because people decided to call saturday and sunday weekends and therefore there is one at either side of the week
 
I think colloquially, most people in the US treat Monday as the start of the week. It would seem odd phrasing if someone said "Next week I'm going to do X" and meant Sunday.
 
@LliwTelracs You are abusing a plural of a word rarely if ever used in this context.
 
@LliwTelracs But if both end a week, why should they be at a weeks beginning?
 
@AdmBorkBork When I say I'm doing something next week, I don't have a day in mind
 
3:25 PM
Very true. But suppose I say that I'm going fishing next week. It would be very odd for that to mean "Sunday."
Almost assuredly, that would be "this weekend" instead.
So Monday is the start of the week.
 
@flawr The start and the finish of something are the two ends of it. @mınxomaĻ„ I wasn't really serious about that.
 
@flawr Right? Because as we all know, only sausages have two ends(source).
 
@AdmBorkBork If I were to hear that, I'd assume you're doing it this weekend
 
Finished by next week = realize Sunday night, panic, and finish 4am on Monday.
 
@mınxomaĻ„ I did not want to mention that XD
 
3:40 PM
The relative size of our sun compared to VY Canis Majoris is roughly equivalent to a donut compared to the London Eye [via]
 
user165474
Our sun is very tiny...
 
@AlexL. compared to you, it's rather large
 
user165474
@muddyfish Well, yes... I was talking relatively to other stars. You know what I mean -.- :P
 
No one caught on the hook, so re-asking. Is anyone interested in Magic: the Gathering? :D
 
@zyabin101 If nobody answers then probably nobody is interested.
 
3:45 PM
if nobody answered, and you've asked a bunch of times, maybe it's not such a great idea to re-ask
 
As it was for the last 1000 times you asked.
 
3 hours ago, by flawr
@zyabin101 Do you have a bot asking this question at a regular interval?
 
@muddyfish NO!!!
 
it was a rhetorical question I think
he's trying to show that people are getting somewhat frustrated
 
@Dennis The third step is the main point of the problem. o.o It's not to generate the tribonacci sequence, or describe a number using the tribonacci "base". It's to generate an output that comes from interpreting a number in the tribonacci base as a binary number.
It makes an interesting sequence that looks similar to this sequence.
 
3:49 PM
Your challenge, your call. I just think converting a number to Tribonacci base is more interesting that converting from binary to decimal.
 
@Riker So where do I search for people with interest in MtG that don't hate (somewhat frustrated is already hate, and enough hate and drama already!)?
 
listen
we're not the ones causing drama
everybody needs to shut up about drama, both sides
 
I actually liked drama at school
 
Aha. :(
Now, where do I search for people with interest in MtG?
Nowhere, is it?
 
@zyabin101 your local game shop?
 
3:56 PM
and it's not about posting that/searching for people, it's about the fact that you've repeatedly posted it in here, got no response and apparently decided "oh nobody responded imma post it again"
 
@PeterTaylor Good
 
@VoteToClose so if you use the default tribonacci sequence
(1, 1, 2)
 
r = sqrt(33)
c = cbrt(102*r + 586)
d = (1 + cbrt(19 - 3*r) + cbrt(19 + 3*r))/3
p = 1/log(d)
q = -log(3*c/(c**2 - 2*c + 4))/log(d)
log(n) * p + q
 
Of course.
BCG.SE.
 
3:57 PM
then integer part of the final expression gives you the tribonacci index for that number
 
@zyabin101 just make sure that if you don't get a response, don't keep asking, all it's going to do is frustrate people
 
Aha. :(
 
4:13 PM
@orlp Yup, I've seen this. Still not as short as iteration, I think. ;)
 
Wow, salty.
It seems that you mistakenly posted your homework here rather than on your own computer where you can take a stab at solving it yourself. — Suever 3 mins ago
 
What is it with certain fonts having the intersection symbol but not union ą² _ą² 
 
Use a capital U?
Kinda like how old typewriters used lowercase L and numeral 1 as the same character.
 
That's probably why they don't have it
 
@AdmBorkBork oh snap
 
4:18 PM
@AdmBorkBork oh snap indeed
 
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Q: Loading from SYS in SmileBASIC

12Me21(SmileBASIC is a BASIC interpreter for the Nintendo 3DS) SmileBASIC has a special "folder" named SYS that contains built in resources, such as the default sprite sheets, font, and sample programs. It cannot be modified, since it's not actually a folder; it's stored in the game's ROM. (It's jus...

 
@Riker linkify plz
 
I don't always not source my gifs, but when I do, they're always from the FP of imgur
 
Given the recent votes I've been casting, my name is kind of a misnomer. In reality, to make it accurate, I should make it "VoteToDelete".
 
lol
 
4:31 PM
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Q: Tips for golfing in SmileBASIC

snail'SmileBASIC deserves more attention. I've only seen 3 users here (including myself!) providing SB answers, and while that doesn't surprise me, it disappoints me. It being a paid lang as well as being a BASIC dialect certainly turns people off, but for those who own it it's actually pretty flexible...

 
@Riker O_O oh my
 
yes
this is why goats are cool, they just eat the octopus
whereas cats somehow manage to get everything stuck on their face
I know this because one of mine is currently trying to remove honey from hers
 
XD but what about dogs
 
90% of dogs are dumb
often cute, but dumb
 
@Riker depends on the type of dog
 
4:40 PM
@Riker s/often/always
 
not necessarily always cute
 
IMO the cuteness of a dog is directly proportional to it's intelligence
 
THE?
 
caps lock and backspace had an argument with me
 
the last 21 messages have all been noise
cmon guys
 
4:42 PM
what else is going on though
it's not drowning out anything
 
I was only being involved in a conversation about how dumb dogs are
 
@muddyfish yeah and I would consider that noise as well as it has no relevance to ppcg, math, programming, or anything similar to that
@Riker that doesn't matter
or rather, that doesn't make it ok
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AdmBorkBorkDivisors Table (title suggestions welcome) code-golf ascii-art primes Something I've played around with in recreational mathematics has been construction of a divisor table to compare/contrast the prime divisors of a set of numbers. The set of input numbers are across the top as column labels,...

 
@Riker :D goats are best
 
5:10 PM
 
I need a rubber duck.
 
@mınxomaĻ„ I misread this at first
 
@mınxomaĻ„ Do you mean something you can talk with about your code? Or something else entirely random?
 
@orlp Eh, still not as bad as betseg's inquiry about the size of our disks.
@KritixiLithos The former.
Here's the problem anyway: stackoverflow.com/questions/42095938/…
 
5:14 PM
Woah, ninja downvote. I hate it when that happens
@mınxomaĻ„ Have you tried talking to yourself? :P
 
@DJMcMayhem tfw you are so bored you made it to the 6th page of imgur
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

J843136028Sum of a Geometric Series Create a program/function that takes three numbers (p, q and n) as input/parameters and outputs the sum of the values of pq^x where x ranges from one to n. Make your code as short as possible. Inbuilt 'sum(list)' functions are not allowed, so that people think of creati...

 
5:30 PM
Did cat/squid gif get flagged?
 
5:44 PM
@KritixiLithos Hmm... meta codegolf doesn't have https, while codegolf has http.
 
Using https for chat is kind of a bad idea, as it will break all links to per-site metas.
 
@Riker accurate
 
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Q: Output numbers up to 2^n-1, "sorted"

Stewie GriffinTake a positive integer n as input, and output all decimal numbers that can be created using n bits, ordered in the following way: First list all the numbers that can be created with only one 1, and the rest 0 in the binary representation (sorted), then all the numbers that can be created with t...

 
@Downgoat idts I think a mod just nuked it
 
6:01 PM
@muddyfish, sorry...
 
@StewieGriffin don't worry
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

carusocomputingDivinacci Perform the Fibonacci sequence but instead of using: f(n) = f(n-1)+f(n-2) Use: f(n) = sum(divisors(f(n-1))) + sum(divisors(f(n-2))) First 13 terms (0-indexed, you may 1-index; state which you used): 0 | 0 # Initial | [] 1 | 1 # Initial | [1] =>

 
This might be a really dumb question, so forgive me if the answer is obvious, but how can I optionally display an HTML item depending on the value of a JavaScript variable?
FWIW, it's a <tr> item
 
the hidden property
object.style.visibility = hidden or object.style.visibility = visible
@DJMcMayhem
 
I think JQuery has a .hide()(or something like that) method for hiding elements
 
6:06 PM
@Riker Ah, perfect thanks
@KritixiLithos No jQuery for me.
I'm actually doing something very obscure/strange/funny. I'm writing a website in C that runs a little dev-board
 
wat
@DJMcMayhem C?
 
Yessir
That includes all the TCP-stuff you need to be able to send stuff over Ethernet
 
@DJMcMayhem object.style.display = "none" and object.style.display = "inline"
Or maybe block instead of inline
 
6:28 PM
20(!) bytes saved just by reusing registers...
 
@DJMcMayhem If that is true, I am a-m-a-z-e-d. My opinion: PHP is much easier and much happier than C.
 
Use NodeJS. c:>
 
@VoteToClose make sure it's serverside though
 
Node is serverside js.
 
yeah
serverside serverside js
 
wat
6:37 PM
I really hate node.js
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Maybe, but PHP isn't really capable of running firmware haha
 
wat
First you need to use JS on the browser. If that wasn't bad enough now people are using JS on the server.
Have some sense people
 
C:\javascript> gets you both C and JS ...
4
 
@wat Actually, I really like NodeJS. Not for the language specifics, but because of the backend stuff that comes packaged with it. Like, a simple static HTTP server is 300 odd bytes.
Without trying to golf it.
 
wat
@VoteToClose THat's true I guess, however the HTTP server thing is true for other languages like Python and Ruby
 
6:41 PM
And bash, C#, many scripting languages etc. pp.
 
@wat I also learned how to program first in Java, so it's easier for me. ;)
 
wat
@VoteToClose Then use Java. how does Javascript relate to Java?
It was originally called Livescript and then the name got changed to attract Java developers. No common history whatsoever
 
@wat Similar syntax. JS is better for scripting though. In Java, HTTP servers are hard. :I
 
> Similar syntax.
 
It is similar syntax. Don't know why you quoted that.
 
wat
6:44 PM
@VoteToClose OK I guess. For scripting I prefer Ruby but that's your choice/preference
 
Ruby scares me. :P I can't handle :: syntax.
 
@VoteToClose The problem is that if you want to use anything other than the built in server it is almost impossible
You might be interested in Flask by the way
 
@quartata Flask?
@quartata Very true - but that doesn't bother me, since I like the built in one. ;)
 
PHP is web server agnostic more or less which is great
 
@VoteToClose I think the syntax is visibly different enough to consider it different. No main classes, no public static void main, uses var` for all types of variables, way less verbose, function f(){} instead of <datatype> f(){}, Java can't be used on the web as effectively as JS, etc...
 
6:46 PM
@VoteToClose Can't use it in production. Poor scaling.
 
Been slowly drifting from PHP to Hack lately.
 
Flask is a Python library that provides a little web server like what you're describing
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah, but most of what you've mentioned is just scripting vs. OOP programming. I refer to the symbols for definition, comparison, manipulation, and separation.
@quartata Good thing I don't write production code. ;)
 
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Q: Twisting Sentences

LliwTelracsRules The program should receive a string/array of words as input. For each word in the string/array, it will reconstruct the word by taking characters in alternating fashion from the front and back of the word. For example 12345 -> 15243. It will then print words alternating between the earli...

 
@NewMainPosts Didn't we just have this exact same challenge a few days ago?
 
6:51 PM
@DJMcMayhem the other challenge was swapping between pairs of capitalized and lowercase letters.
 
Yeah, I don't remember a dupe.
 
@LliwTelracs No, there was a different one I think
I can't remember where though
 
There was another similar challenge posted in sandbox after mine in this past week
 

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