The Nineteenth Byte

Ok well thanks people! Thats why I came here. Much quicker and less painful then SO. I got like 4 people who knew the answer immediately. Without being marked as a duplicate 100 times.

Conor O'Brien

2:31 AM

@LeakyNun ? you mean in my original attempt? I don't >_>

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien in the new one

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Conor O'Brien

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What's wrong with your copy of J :/

Maltysen

@LeakyNun you too.

nice to be back at TNB

Leaky Nun

@Maltysen If you don't mind, where did you go?

Maltysen

@LeakyNun india, and then band camp

Leaky Nun

2:34 AM

@Maltysen I see

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@ConorO'Brien This is what's wrong

Conor O'Brien

Are you using &.?

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien no, because I'm testing each component individually

Conor O'Brien

do you know how &. works?

Leaky Nun

~:/&.#: is just #:^:_1@~:/@#:

Dennis

@LeakyNun That won't do. &. is magic.

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Leaky Nun

2:36 AM

@Dennis but it's failing me anyway

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun uh.. @&.@?

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien fixed

Conor O'Brien

weird things happen with @ and insert

I don't quite understand it myself

Geobits

ok, one last try to get Dennis on board with this. I'm fairly sure this one won't work either...

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Downgoat

@Geobits SUCH CELEBRATION, VERY OUTGOLF

Dennis

2:38 AM

Happy New Year!

quartata

Coal miner

Leaky Nun

On an unrelated note:

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quartata

but with colored coal

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien @Dennis ^^

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

All aboard the deap dreams hype train?

Dennis

2:39 AM

I'm not following. How is that betters than ~:/&.#:@,?

Conor O'Brien

he's trying to understand it

Dennis

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Rohan Jhunjhunwala

what's the goal?

Bitwise xor?

Leaky Nun

@Dennis Because it doesn't work for me

@RohanJhunjhunwala in J.

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Ok

Dennis

2:40 AM

@LeakyNun When/how does it fail?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

What exactly is the inspiration behind j?

Is it a golfing esolang?

Conor O'Brien

APL, arrays, functional, glory

Helka Homba

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Such Martender much wow

Geobits

SpEnder?

Leaky Nun

2:41 AM

@RohanJhunjhunwala it isn't an esolang

Conor O'Brien

@RohanJhunjhunwala no. ಠ_ಠ it's a functional, practical language geared towards mathematics.

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun @ConorO'Brien so sort of like APL?

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yes

Like this

2:41 AM

@LeakyNun Which interpreter?

Maltysen

@RohanJhunjhunwala like APL but ascii

Leaky Nun

@Dennis tryj.tk

Conor O'Brien

It works fine on my console

Dennis

@LeakyNun Stop using that and download the real one. J.js is crap.

Conor O'Brien

@LeakyNun maybe it's another tryj.tk bug

^^

Nathan Merrill

2:42 AM

...my KoTH suddenly died. I was getting tons of comments/activity for like an hour...then it suddenly all stopped oO

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@NathanMerrill it seems like an interesting concept

Dennis

First language I'll add to TIO v2 will be J.

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@NathanMerrill the introduction of subpar bots to "scam" makes it playable. (Don't worry I don't rob shut up and take my money

@Dennis what are some of the features of TIO v2?

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala code saving like Ideone

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Will programs be interactive?

@LeakyNun oooh code saving. So I can can paste permalinks to long code on tnb?

Leaky Nun

2:44 AM

@RohanJhunjhunwala REPL? graphics? define interactive

@RohanJhunjhunwala yes, and edit them without editing your post

Geobits

deepstyle protip: don't use quartata's pichu avatar with a colorful pikachu face. Just... don't.

Leaky Nun

(though you still need to edit your post to update the code)

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun in terms of an interface

Input received during the running of the code

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala REPL then, it would be hard to implement

Dennis

@RohanJhunjhunwala The most important difference is proper sandboxing, which means I should be able to host pretty much any language on TIO. REPL/interactive may be introduced at some point, but I don't think it will happen soon.

quartata

2:45 AM

@Geobits lemme see

Maltysen

@Geobits post plz

Geobits

Eh, it didn't work at all:

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Dennis so are there currently languages you had to reject because they are unsafe?

quartata

Perfect

Maltysen

it looks like someone put pikachu in a blender

Geobits

2:46 AM

On the plus side, it doesn't look like a coal miner.

Conor O'Brien

@Geobits what the heck is taht

quartata

Abstract art coal miner

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun I found a bug and squashed it. Missing semicolon must have gotten somewhere caught in the merge process

Geobits

It's quartata. You don't see the resemblance? :P

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala alright

Conor O'Brien

2:48 AM

oh, I see

Dennis

@RohanJhunjhunwala I'm not really confident in the current sandboxing method, and I'd have to enable it individually for each interpreter since it's a bit quirky. Notably, for Python 3.5 which I wanted to add to TIO, the v1's sandbox just segfaults.

Leaky Nun

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@ConorO'Brien @Dennis done

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Dennis oh ok.

Conor O'Brien

Nice job!

Dennis

\o/

I assume J.js doesn't have &.. It ought to be rather painful to implement.

Conor O'Brien

2:49 AM

@Dennis it does, actually, at least for u&.>

Geobits

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Aaaaaaand I'm done.

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien It isn't loading at all for me right now, so I can't check. What does that do?

Downgoat

@Geobits @HelkaHomba chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/31961914#31961914

Dennis

@Geobits OK, that's actually quite beautiful.

Geobits

It looks like he's drowning :/

Conor O'Brien

2:50 AM

@Dennis Basically, on a boxed list, performs u to the members. E.g., *:&.> ;/1 2 3 => 1;4;9

quartata

That's Andesite as the guide right

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun your update didn't seem to reverse bork anything. I'll commit the fixed semicolon, but in order to verify the bitshift I'll have to do math which wont work out well for me at 11 pm my time.

Geobits

@quartata No, I used a macro dewdrop image I found: s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/eu-ddream-style/…

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun I'll ping you if I find any issues with the bitshift

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien Right. I guess it works for some verbs, but not all of them.

Conor O'Brien

2:52 AM

yeah, probably has something to do with ill-defined inverses

Maltysen

@Geobits ooooooh prettttyyyy

Helka Homba