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1:04 PM
@Lembik Perhaps not but ironically Seriously is written in Python.
 
@TùxCräftîñg TIL
 
Running apgsearch 0 on root AQ, 10000 soups.
checks running census
2500 soups!
Running at 14 per second.
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 wat
how is it so slow
 
I'm using my old humble computer and Golly and apgsearch 0.
 
i am creating a automated sh file to build asm files
#!/bin/sh

asmfiles=$(find ./src -type f -name '*.asm')
for file in $asmfiles; do
    echo "Assembling $file..."
    nasm -f bin -o obj/$file.os $file
done
but the path is invalid and idk how to split a string in sh
.os is for assembly object
 
1:16 PM
Half way!
 
and the solution and new shell file is?
Running at 13 per second.
 
nope not found
 
@TùxCräftîñg You don't need to split a string for a for loop in sh.
Two thirds!
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 the strings return by find are ./src/<file>, so -o obj/./src/<file>.os is not really valid
i am trying to create a thing with perl
 
1:20 PM
Almost there!
@TùxCräftîñg Okay then, solve that problem somehow, bring the shell file and I can translate it into make!
(make is the industry standard for automated build process.)
Homestretch!
 
make is evil
 
make is not evil.
make is good.
Finish!
 
D:\CaDOS>perl -e "printf((split/\//,<>)[-1])"
./src/hi.asm
hi.asm
sh*t it's ugly
 
@TùxCräftîñg It's not ugly, it's golfy.
Golfiness at the top of all, y'know. ;)
 
codegolf had a bad influence on my style, it's official xD
it's slow but it's work
i am creating a calculator os for x86
so it's why the folder i am in is named CaDOS
 
1:26 PM
@TùxCräftîñg Remember: nothing is evil.
(except viruses, of course)
 
make, vi, nano and ed are evil
 
@TùxCräftîñg ^^^
 
nope, they aren't evil.
 
yes they are evil
 
1:27 PM
WAT
They aren't evil
 
yes they are
 
Let's stop this argument, before <insert Stack Exchange mod here> moves us, non-guilty, to Trash.
 
Dark is more evil
 
First, make is not evil because it's industry standard used by, like, every dev in the world.
 
1:31 PM
ಠ_ಠ
 
Second, vi is not evil because... erm... quickly checks 'vi' in 'evil' it's evil. o_o
 
you see vi is evil
 
Third, nano is possibly the simplest editor. It's obviously not the most evil editor.
Fourth, ed is the standard text editor.
 
ed rhyme with ev, so ed is evil
 
Text edits are disallowed. ;)
@TùxCräftîñg Wolfram|Alpha is another opinion about that. Just search rhymes with ed on wolframalpha.com, and note: NSFW, somehow.
 
1:36 PM
O_O
wat
but this is a proof than ed is evil
 
vi, grep, awk, and more are based on ed
 
so they are evil
 
so all of those and their derivatives are evil
 
including perl and vim i think
 
1:38 PM
You think that every software is evil.
 
By zyabin's logic: vi is a vicious viral villain viper vigilantly viewing visually violent victim videos
 
@Sp3000 TS
 
the alliteration is too much
i can't even
 
#!/bin/sh

asmfiles=$(find ./src -type f -name '*.asm')
for file in $asmfiles; do
    echo "Assembling $file..."
    nasm -f bin -o obj/$(echo $file | perl -e "printf((split/\//,<>)[-1])").o $file
done

echo Linking...
cat obj/*.o /dev/zero | dd bs=512 count=2880 > cados.fd
ಠ_ಠ
 
1:40 PM
(Fun fact: there's a lot of words you could add to that to make the sentence pretty NSFW)
 
@TùxCräftîñg ಠ_ಠ shell script is evil
use make
/sarc
 
make is evil
 
next person to say something is evil... is evil
#rekt
aw
LOL
 
that was good, haha
 
1:47 PM
VGA is evil
 
make is good
@Poke do you use make?
 
make is evil like VGA and vi
 
So, how about building the Coreutils from scratch?
(As an example)
 
Yeah, ._. because you need make to build the Coreutils.
 
1:53 PM
no just to create a shell script to automate this
 
In fact, you need make to build pretty much every *nix app, so make is not evil, as say thousands of *nix apps.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Okay, you create a shell script to automate this.
For this, you need to read the Makefile, used by... guess what?... make.
 
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And realize that you'd better get out with make.
 
1:56 PM
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@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I have used make but it's not part of my current job
 
So make is not evil, as it is easier than shell scripts.
 
i write shell scripts more often than i use make
 
(Also, stop posting very long faces.)
 
1:57 PM
ಠ_ಠ
 
@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ ikr, they only change by like 1 or 2 cells
 
Third item, we could make an entire blog article (or even blog series) of make being not evil.
@TùxCräftîñg now, is make evil to you?
 
@TùxCräftîñg What is QPixel, anyway?
 
a q/a site
where everyone troll
 
2:02 PM
You just created this question to celebrate make being evil? _ _ _
 
there is a mod named Trolly McTrollface anyway ._.
 
It blows my mind that someone would put so much effort into merging 4chan and Stack Exchange
 
But then again, 4chan alone blows my mind
 
2:07 PM
Is make evil?
(Sorry Rainbolt, but I have to prove to TuxCrafting that make is not evil.)
 
Yes
 
I thought make isn't evil...
Time to wake up the Nth Monitor and the Nineteenth Byte to a vote: is make evil?
 
@TùxCräftîñg I shared about this argument and this straw poll in the Nth Monitor. You have got an indirect link with Code Review >:D
 
2:24 PM
> The search may be slow, because indexing is not used. Click to enable indexing...
Actually, the search is sooooo fast, that this message is annoying!
 
welcome to windows
 
Question, how, in Windows Vista, to delete this annoying message?
 
for now it's a tie
no fcking idea
in The Nth Monitor, 14 mins ago, by skiwi
Of course make is evil, there should be superior tools by now but make kills them all
make is evil
 
Operation: make the next feedbot joke say "MAKE IS BEST CHOICE" to make it a tie.
 
> If you thought Pokémon Go spread impressively fast, wait until you see Pokémon Rust.
2
 
2:28 PM
xD
 
Then we can just get someone to say "make is not evil" to make us win! >:D
 
I HAVE A REASON TO QUIT CHAT FOREVER!
 
2 votes for yes
make is evil
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan strawpoll.me/10752482
hi
D:
 
Oh man, I haven't used make in ages.
 
2:34 PM
code golf is really cool, guys
for those of you who weren't aware
 
Is it? I only do it for green points
 
@MitchSchwartz Yay \o/!
 
make is evil
so plz vote yes
 
2:58 PM
@Fatalize I only did it so I could have enough rep to chat, and then I became addicted. First hit is free, man.
 
i am learning jelly
 
user214599
>:(make
 
Actually, that's a lie. I didn't even know about the chat until several months after I joined.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Nope. It's a tool, tools cannot be evil.
 
3:04 PM
And as make isn't evil, I can now convert your shell script to make.
 
3 votes for yes, 3 votes for no
 
make isn't evil
so plz nay
 
user214599
ma__ke
 
R²÷4 vs map(lambda x:(x**2)/4,range(input()+1)) ok Jelly is life
 
user214599
 
@MatthewRoh It's not, but the fad is crazing many.
Including me.
 
pkmn go is not yet in france
 
Nor in Russia.
 
user214599
Out in korea but never working
 
user214599
lol
 
3:24 PM
@MatthewRoh It's not officially released in Korea, only the client is out.
 
like in france
 
user214599
It works in some cities
 
the client is out but not yet the map
 
Pokémon Go is great, it's a video game that MAKES you leave the house and walk around.
As opposed to sitting around as a lump at home
Also pokemans in real life, what's not to like
 
the problem is that pkmn go make go outside
 
user214599
3:26 PM
O <Person playing pokemon go
+    __/""""\__
^    _O______O_< Car
 
The only problem is when people stop traffic on a freeway to catch a Mewtwo
 
@BusinessCat (caution: RawStory is left-slanted) rawstory.com/2016/07/…
2
 
After reading that title, I don't think I even need to read the rest
 
._.
the patterns generated by B3/S45678 look like a brain
 
3:31 PM
That's freaky
It just slowly expands
 
@BusinessCat want to work on MtG cards?
 
0
Q: ChessBoard Walking

Fabio MazzoThe objective is to make a chessboard in art ascii with size through two arguments (height,width) and a start (x,y) and end (x,y) point for a subject walking on the board, each square he step has the inverted color (or symbol), including the initial and final. Example: height = 8, width = 8, w...

 
I'm at 700 rep! :D
 
3:59 PM
wat
 
> You know what's really fun? Chatting with a support technician to resolve a hardware problem. - No one ever
 
I'm continuing on the cgol-search repo. :3
 
942 views on the your-mom repo :D
 
4:25 PM
# The standard for makefiles is do it yourself.
OBJECTS = file1.o file2.o file3.o

all: $(OBJECTS)
	cat $(OBJECTS) /dev/zero | dd bs=512 count=2880 > cados.fd
file1.o: file1.asm
	nasm -f bin -o file1.o file1.asm
file2.o: file2.asm
	nasm -f bin -o file2.o file2.asm
file3.o: file3.asm
	nasm -f bin -o file3.o file3.asm
.PHONY: clean
clean:
	rm cados.fd $(OBJECTS)
^ A Makefile for your CaDOS, also proving trying to prove that make is not evil.
 
make is evil
 
@TùxCräftîñg Tools can't be evil.
 
When you add a new file, for example file4.asm, add a new entry in OBJECTS.
For file4.asm, that would be file4.o.
 
where my shell file do this automagicaly
 
4:29 PM
shell script is evil
 
make is worst
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 when you want to build a project of multiple file.
Alright, returning to making make know a new file.
...
OBJECTS = file1.o file2.o file3.o file4.o
...
Next, add a "rule" for the new file.
 
i am not dumb i know how make work
 
@TùxCräftîñg How exactly? o_O
 
@TùxCräftîñg In germany there was the x-phone back in about 2011
 
4:37 PM
._.
 
@TùxCräftîñg How does make work?
 
bah it's work
 
and work is bad, right?
 
Work is bad
 
@Quill woah
how u do dis?
 
4:41 PM
hi Downgaot
 
@TùxCräftîñg Hello
@TùxCräftîñg y u haet maek ;_;
 
@Doorknob Correlated although I'll admit I haven't found the smoking causality gun yet. It's just a matter of time though
You could make this easier for me by changing your avatar back #bringbackdoorknobofthesnow
 
5:02 PM
brb i restart my computer
 
5:17 PM
@HelkaHomba I just saw one of your old videos about the PPCG server. I think that might have been enough to finally convince me to buy MC. :-D
Although it seemed like everything was already finished. Is there even anything that still needs work on that server?
 
That was the old server
(rip)
 
Speaking of which, @quartata, we've still got a whole mountain to tear down.
Well, 2/3 of a mountain. :P
 
Do we have wither skulls?
 
I don't.
 
removing a mountain with a wither
it's a bad idea
 
5:23 PM
Oh, so there is stuff to do?
 
Wither blows everything up, easy peasy
 
@TùxCräftîñg No, you'd use a wither cage
 
Haha, no, the wither would be killed to get a star for a beacon.
 
No I was going to use it to nuke it
 
5:24 PM
Just use a piston to get it to fire black skullls, ez
 
How do you get it through a portal?
 
Do I need to?
 
Oh, you can create withers in the overworld?
 
Yeah
 
.....I'd rather have a beacon. :P
What about making TNT and laying them in a row, properly spaced, and then igniting them simultaneously with redstone?
 
5:27 PM
Too much effort
A wither would be easier if we did it carefully
 
thats the problem
a wither destroy near everything
 
If you keep it from going idle it'll never shoot blue skulls
It's easier than you might think
 
Would anyone here be interested in a modded PPCG minecraft server? Nothing confirmed, just gaging for interest
 
depends of the mods
 
Not really. The problem with modded servers is that all the standard modpacks are too disorganized for my taste and as I've discovered making a really good modpack is excruciatingly difficult
 
5:30 PM
a modpack like Attack of the B-Team can be cool
 
I started working on one when 1.4 came out and I finally gave up trying to finish it when 1.8 came out
 
@quartata the Curse launcher actually makes it VERY easy
 
Same as Tux, depends which mods
 
@GamrCorps oh haha, I thought you meant "moderated'.
 
Didn't exist back then I don't think. Plus I was making my own mods to go with it
 
5:31 PM
Yeah, that could be a nusance...
 
The main issue was that since no mods use the same electricity system I ended up making my own and trying to cram it down all the mods' throats
Rather annoying
 
Yikes
 
OpenComputer support a lot of electric systems
 
It would have been amazing but it was just too unstable
 
and it's pretty cool to have Unix in MC
 
5:31 PM
I've been thinking of making a Minecraft mod myself
 
@TùxCräftîñg I highly doubt it supported this one. This was based on RotaryCraft :P
The physics nerd in me really liked it
 
Something like Ars Magica but not horribly glitchy
 
I should root around and see if the pack is still there. I think it got lost in the great Hard Drive explosion of 2015
Ohh I think I found an old version of it
Oh dear, this one is ancient. 1.5.
 
:(
Darn.
I swore I had a list of everything around here somewhere. This was an old version with no tech mods
 
5:35 PM
What time are you guys usually on? I could probably hop on around 06 UTC
 
Strawpoll not found
 
@BusinessCat Minecraft mods are actually really easy if you already know some Java. The only problems I found is that they like to change the minecraft api with every version so 1.6 / 1.7-1.8 / 1.9-1.10 are all very different
 
@GamrCorps I would be 100% happy to help you put together a modpack. I don't think the mod scene has changed a whole lot in 2 years :P
 
It hasn't changed much, but depending on which MC version the mods can be very different
 
I think we should shoot for 1.7
I don't think the good tech mods are stable in 1.8 yet
We should maybe make a room for this. I don't know what kind of modpack the MC folks here would like, need some further discussion
 
5:37 PM
Already did

 Possible PPCG Modded Server Discussion

For discussing the details of the *possible* PPCG modded server
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 \o/ \o/ \o/
would of been better if you merged the goat command
>:\
 
@Downgoat shall we meet in the zyabinVI room tomorrow?
 
anyone here know how to control the mouse in python?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 sure
@GamrCorps I don't know how to control a mouse in a python, after all it has been eaten
 
5:58 PM
@GamrCorps First, pull the mouse out of the python.
 
Oh, yeah I didn't think of that. Thanks!
:P
 
Seriously though, I personally don't know, and I presume you've already done the relevant googling?
 
Ive tried, but Ill keep searching, thanks though
 
Might have to use a library for that.
 
@GamrCorps what OS are you targeting?
 
6:06 PM
21
A: Controlling mouse with Python

Al SweigartThe PyAutoGUI module does this and works on win/mac/linux. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/PyAutoGUI import pyautogui pyautogui.click(100, 100) Also has other features: import pyautogui pyautogui.moveTo(100, 150) pyautogui.moveRel(0, 10) # move mouse 10 pixels down pyautogui.dragTo(100, 150) py...

 
@Downgoat windows
 
oh nvm
 
@Dennis Yeah I'm currently looking at that, but I cant seem to install pyautogui correctly
 
Should be just pip install pyautogui (or pip3 for Python 3). I must admit I've never used Python on Windows though.
 
I am running the command correctly, but it is saying ImportError: No module named 'PIL' when running the setup.py. So I did ... pip install Pillow and that didn't help
 
6:14 PM
That's weird. The website says it has no dependencies on Windows...
 
Talk about off-by-one errors!
 
kpdecker.github.io/six-speed <- good reference on speed of babel & co.
 
0
Q: Chessboard Walker

Fabio MazzoThe objective is to draw a chessboard in art ascii with size through two arguments (height,width) and a start (x,y) and end (x,y) point for a subject walking on the board, each square he step has the inverted color (or symbol), including the initial and final. Input: - height and width in squar...

 
@Dennis I got it working, thanks for your help. Turns out I had to ... pip install pillow-pil
 
6:28 PM
@Mego sorry for yesterday. I was tired and probably shouldn't have been here.
 
@TùxCräftîñg o_o
 
@TùxCräftîñg I am resisting to flag that for general "what the hell is this"
 
^
 
6:31 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it's a japan movie
 
@TùxCräftîñg note to self: never watch japanese movies unless they are animes :P
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

dorukayhanThis challenge is highly experimental and it seems to me that everyone can find a way to improve it. That's why I made this post community wiki. Roll a caffeinated bowling ball through the [code-golf] tag Since 5 years, we've been making & solving code golf challenges where there's a specific...

 
THE ABYSS IS LOOKING BACK
6
 
ninja'd
le mod abuse 11 s'il vous plait
4
 
6:42 PM
> I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
wat
597 rep \o/
one upvote and i will be at 600
 
it says here you have 592
nvm
 
@TùxCräftîñg begins serially downvoting
 
N00000000
 
hmm.. I hate to think I have defeated PPCG!
 
@TimmyD knock knock Open the Door! The Mod Police are at your Door!
@Lembik ?
 
6:53 PM
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Good thing he merely has a door.
 
oh, I forgot to implement shoco in Cheddar >_>
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I think he's sorta gloating that one of his challenges is still unanswered. I think.
 
@Lembik Well, when you ask a question that practically requires a degree in Mathematics, I'm not surprised. Not that I'm complaining - I think it's really interesting, just that it's not simple.
Or are you meaning the one you just edited?
 
@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 XD I put in "Downgoat Upgoat Leftgoat Rightgoat Diagonalgoat Sidewaysgoat Goatgoat Doggoat" and I got "Ridewatgoat"
 
6:56 PM
Let's put in the names of PPCG mods (sorry to them):
MartinEnder Dennis Doorknob AlexA
Doorknderkn
 
TuxCrafting CraftingTux TuxGoat GoatTux GoatCrafting
i get Goating
 
•_.
MarknEnoob-
Who put the hyphens in here?
Martinin
:O :D
DortinndexA
 
i am trying to feed a english dictionary
 
@Lembik I mean, you do have 9 deleted non-valid answers. That's just shy of the 12 on Helka's Pristine World challenge, which I think is the highest.
 

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