The Nineteenth Byte

This year's UEFA Euro 2016 is over and besides a couple of negative headlines there has been a very positive surprise as well – the Iceland national football team. Let's draw their national flag. Input Well, obviously this challenge has no input. Output Draw the flag of Iceland in any applic...

Downgoat

though items can have their own iterators

Blind

Do you like my flag .svg?

Nathan Merrill

what if I want to map a function to an array?

Anonymous

@Downgoat In the most convoluted way possible. Usually it converts to the lhs's type, unless there's not a valid conversion. Then, it tries converting to the rhs's type. If that also fails, the types are coerced into a common type - usually String or Number. And if that still doesn't work, it fails completely.

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill meaning?

Nathan Merrill

12:08 AM

or filter an array?

Downgoat

ar.map(func)

Helka Homba

@Downgoat Like pythons itertools - permutations, combinations, etc.

Nathan Merrill

yeah, like those

Quill

@Downgoat btw @all if you want to learn this, you should totally read that Quill guy's blog post article on it, I hear it was pretty good

Doorknob

Who?

Nathan Merrill

12:08 AM

@Downgoat zipping two arrays?

Blind

guys

How to is possible create a language?

Quill

@Doorknob He's this weird reviewer of code from new zealand

Nathan Merrill

@Blind first learn some languages, then worry about making your own

seriously, its a huge undertaking

Blind

Ok

trichoplax

@Quill You wrote a whole blog post about an esoteric language?

Anonymous

12:09 AM

In reality, implicit type coercion shouldn't happen at all - explicit is better than implicit.

Helka Homba

@Quill Does that make you a kiwi?

Blind

I'm confused if study python or C

Downgoat

@Mego considering how long it took you to answer that i feel you googled it but you're a bit off. It calls the item's toString() which is inherited all the way down the prototype chain. You can see it like:

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill I see what you did there

Downgoat

class A{toString(){return "hello"}}

> new A()+''
< "hello"

Nathan Merrill

12:10 AM

@Mego lol, that was not intentional

Quill

@trichoplax YOU WIN AT INTERNETS (I physically facepalmed)

Blind

last question off topic: I should study python or c?

Anonymous

@Downgoat Or I went to the bathroom.

trichoplax

@Blind Study both in parallel, and you'll learn a lot from the differences

Downgoat

and if I do:

trichoplax

12:10 AM

@Quill Sorry :P

Downgoat

> class A extends Number{}
> new A()+""
< "0"

it's really not convoluted at all and it's dead simple if you understand it

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Q: Thwart Lepton compression

Dropbox recently released Lepton, a method that losslessly compresses JPEG images round-trip, saving an average of 22%. Because of the pigeonhole principle, any general compression algorithm cannot be guaranteed to result in a smaller file (general because this might not apply to input files t...

image-processing compression

Helka Homba

@Blind Both. If you want to be a "programmer", knowing many diverse languages, no matter what exactly they are, will help.

Blind

OOk

Doorknob

@NewMainPosts Is this technically "code" golf?

Nathan Merrill

12:11 AM

@Downgoat if I wanted to zip two functions, how do you do it?

quartata

@Downgoat interglacial.com/javascript_spec/a-9.html

read 9.8 and tell me it's simple

Anonymous

@Downgoat That's still in line with what I said. Having a toString method means that it can be coerced into a String implicitly. A + String doesn't work, so it tries to coerce the String into an A, but that's upcasting, which isn't allowed. So, the alternative is to cast A to a String - which it does via the toString method.

Downgoat

@quartata XD name one language specification that's "simple"

trichoplax

GoL

Nathan Merrill

@Doorknob The byte size of the Lepton image divided by the source JPEG image (i.e. the compression ratio). Higher is better

Anonymous

12:13 AM

@Downgoat Same with that - "" can't be converted into an A or a Number, but A can be converted into a String (by way of downcasting it to a Number, whose default constructor returns 0).

Helka Homba

@Blind Try some coding at every level. Circuitry, MIPS, C, Java, Python, JS, Pyth, hand waving

Nathan Merrill

interesting scoring mechanism

Anonymous

@Downgoat Brainfuck

Blind

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/85443/… cool

quartata

> it's dead simple

Nathan Merrill

12:13 AM

@HelkaHomba I'm really good at the last

Blind

@HelkaHomba I must learn it in same time? O.o

quartata

But there's a difference here

Downgoat

@Mego yeah, how is this convoluted?

quartata

@Downgoat You're trolling at this point, right?

Downgoat

@Mego yeah, my point was the toString() propagates down the prototype chain

Nathan Merrill

12:13 AM

@Blind no. Start with a often-used language, like Python, JS, Java, or C

Doorknob

@HelkaHomba Don't forget BF

Nathan Merrill

it really doesn't matter which one

Downgoat

@quartata what's so confusing about it?

Blind

Ok

Nathan Merrill

actually, that challenge is off topic

trichoplax

12:14 AM

@NathanMerrill I use the last for real world practical problems

Anonymous

@Downgoat Let me show you with a constrasting example of not-convoluted: "a" + 5 should error, because strings and ints don't add. You have to explicitly cast one or both in order to get a legal expression. The language should do exactly what I say, not what it thinks I mean.

Nathan Merrill

because it doesn't require code

Doorknob

@NathanMerrill That's what I meant by "'code' golf"

quartata

@Downgoat Three steps of logic to casting something as simple as that example is two steps too many

trichoplax

@Mego But then you can only program things on purpose...

Anonymous

12:16 AM

Addition is commutative: a + b == b + a. If "5" + 4 != 4 + "5", then there's a deeper problem - you're trying to add two things that it doesn't make sense to add, and so problems arise when you try to hack together a system that allows that.

Downgoat

@Mego Whether or not it should error os a matter of opinion.

@Mego Addition is not concatenation

Doorknob

@Downgoat Opinion is literally the entire basis of the discussion here

Anonymous

Then maybe don't overload the operator to mean both?

quartata

^

Perl:

Anonymous

Or allow the operator to mean both addition and concatenation, but only when the types match - when there's ambiguity, don't try to guess.

quartata

12:17 AM

"5" + 4 == 9 and "5" . 4== "45"

Blind

4 + "5" = 45

4 + 5 = 9

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata ew.

Doorknob

Or at least make it easy to tell which is happening. When I see 1 +, I expect addition to always happen. If I give it 1 plus bananas, it shouldn't try to guess what that means; it should throw an error.

Anonymous

@Doorknob Exactly this.

Downgoat

@quartata that's what PHP does and I'm pretty sure most people dislike it

quartata

12:18 AM

> pretty sure most people dislike it

trichoplax

@Downgoat Doesn't it borrow the "always show something if at all possible" philosophy from html? To me it makes a lot more sense for broken html to still display some incorrectly formatted text, than for broken JS to perform some action completely unrelated to what the programmer was hoping for...

Anonymous

When a language tries to guess what you mean, it loses power.

quartata

> literally the most popular server side scripting language

k

Blind

Python give error with 4 + "5", JS doesn't

quartata

Anyways, that's not the point. You can do cool string casting stuff while still being unambiguous

Downgoat

12:19 AM

@trichoplax well yeah, that's part of the reason JS is so reluctant with throwing errors.

Anonymous

@Downgoat I dislike PHP, but for other reasons. The fact that addition and concatenation are different operators is a good thing.

Blind

Node > PHP

Downgoat

People don't want a giant error when they load a website, they'd rather have at least half of it working

Anonymous

@Downgoat Blame the crappy programmer who can't be bothered to use sane type checks, then.

Downgoat

@quartata please explain mysql_real_escape_string pls if PHP is good

quartata

12:20 AM

@Doorknob Just a few hours ago he posted an "error" where he did string + getChar instead of string + getChar() and got "stringfunction getChar() { ... }"

Doorknob

@Downgoat That... has nothing to do with the topic

quartata

If that isn't infuriating then I don't know what is

trichoplax

@Blind That's a reason to learn Python first - you can learn so much from error messages. Then when you've learned enough, you can move on to JS

Doorknob

@quartata Yep, string plus bananas.

Blind

Ok :)

quartata

12:21 AM

@Downgoat That's a MySQL library function, PHP didn't pick the name

Downgoat

@quartata no because i instantly knew what the error was. If I got "Cannot use + with types: "string" and "function"" I'd be spending an hour figuring out what's going wrong

Doorknob

Uh, what?

quartata

@Downgoat If that's the case then you're mad. That former error + line and column would immediately tell me what's wrong and where it was

Doorknob

How would that error message be remotely confusing? Especially with a line number?

Geobits

@Mego I only end up using PHP once a year or so, but it never fails that I forget about the concat operator at first.

quartata

12:21 AM

Even better would be a little something like this:

Blind

Last question: Can I start programming from "kids" (I'm not sure this word is right)? (I'm just 13)

Nathan Merrill

why are we debating which languages are better

trichoplax

@Downgoat I do see that point. I just would prefer if the non-erroring involved just not performing part of the program, rather than guessing and performing something almost at random

Blind

@NathanMerrill Because It's cool lo

Doorknob

@Blind Never too early, go for it :)

Nathan Merrill

12:22 AM

@Blind I think this is the third time you've said "Last question". and yes

quartata

error on line x col y:

  string + getChar
           ^

Can't add function and string

Anonymous

@Geobits Even better, string interpolation!

Blind

Ok sorry nathan

Downgoat

@Mego you can still use type checks and explicit casting with JS to avoid type casting problems. It just fails more gracefully

quartata

That even shows me where it is. All I have to do is jump into vi and jump to the line. I could even do it with sed if I wanted to

The former would at minimum require figuring out where it is

Anonymous

12:22 AM

@NathanMerrill Because Downgoat keeps using the same arguments for why JS isn't bad, despite us tearing them apart time and time again

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Blind there are other users on here who are 13 (easterly irk). Most of the current users you're talking to are <20 (including me).

Nathan Merrill

all of the arguments are debatable (on both sides)

Downgoat

@quartata node's stack traces are shit so i would have no idea what the line number was anyway

Doorknob

@NathanMerrill The real reason is "because we have nothing better to be doing right now" :P

Nathan Merrill

ok. Then I'll ask my question again

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

12:23 AM

And I started when I was 15

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill Because it's safer than politics...

Blind

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Ok

Downgoat

@trichoplax it's predictable if you know how to javascript

quartata

@Downgoat But we're not talking about node, we're literally talking about any other language. This is the point

Nathan Merrill

given an NxN grid of dots, how many lines do you need to cover all of the dots (no going outside the square)

Geobits

12:24 AM

I started when I was 10, and that was many years ago when kids were dumber :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Blind also, welcome to the site! It's one of the funnest ways to learn programming. :)

Blind

I use pc from 10, I use Photoshop from 12 and I'm programming to 1 month lol

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Thanks

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Downgoat that's just the surface

Geobits

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Also a great way to cement bad practices! :D

Downgoat

@quartata either way I knew exactly what the problem was so there's no "super strong" point you have anyway

Anonymous

12:24 AM

We have long passed the point where we "add" two things willy-nilly and hope for the best. We aren't in the dark ages anymore where assembly is the language of choice. We have type systems. We have static code analysis and compile-time errors. JS's insane type coercion system is a relic of ancient savagery.

quartata

@Downgoat Anyone who had just started JS wouldn't know. Anyone who had just started <insert language with good error messages> would know.

Doorknob

"ancient savagery," I like it :P

quartata

And in a giant code base the error could be anywhere, I mean really

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Geobits No! :P it's the best place learn how to abuse your language.

Anonymous

Telling the programmer that they're doing something stupid sooner rather than later is a very good thing.

Geobits

12:25 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan It can be both ;)

trichoplax

@Blind It's universally understood that when someone says "last question", then mean "last question so far"...

Downgoat

@quartata which is why you learn the language. Python is another thing

Anonymous

I want my languages to say "hey idiot you can't add '5' and 4", rather than try to guess what I actually meant and cause bigger headaches later.

Nathan Merrill

@Mego so would you say that languages are better off by being statically typed?

Doorknob

I would agree with that

quartata

12:26 AM

@Downgoat Why shouldn't JS be helpful? Why shouldn't it let me know exactly where the problem is? What's wrong with that?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Geobits On a more serious note, I'm way better at python because of golf tricks I learned.

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill Static typing is a very useful tool for avoiding writing bad code.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

And vim too

Nathan Merrill

@Mego that's not my question. Would python, for example, be better off if it was statically typed?

Geobits

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Oh, I agree that it can be useful for learning cool things about languages. I'm just not sure it's the best way to start learning programming in general.

Downgoat

12:27 AM

@quartata I've explained this before. JS was originally designed for the web, it's the same reason HTML is so compliant with its syntax.

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill Static typing in Python doesn't make any sense, because there's no "compile-time" at which to do type checks.

Doorknob

@Geobits Solving challenges on PPCG without the golf aspect is actually a great way to practice

Blind

Now I try to create a basic calculator in python

Downgoat

I don't want to go to a website and see a big gaping error "Foo cannot be cast to X and Y at line A col B" I'd rather see what is working

Blind

just for learn syntaax etc.

Anonymous

12:28 AM

@Downgoat So blame the programmer for writing bad code

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@El'endiaStarman You should code up a new version of the Christianity twitter bot - according to comments its horrible and it links to the worst christains

Geobits

@Doorknob Sure, that would be good practice. Just like PE, etc.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I'd like to find a corpus of writing from children in a non-self-selected sample (e.g. handwritten letters to the president from everyone in the same teacher's 7th grade class every year)--and score the kids today versus the kids 20 years ago on various objective measures of writing quality. I've heard the idea that exposure to all this amateur peer practice is hurting us, but I'd bet on the generation that conducts the bulk of their social lives via the written word over the generation that occasionally wrote book reports and letters to grandma once a year, any day.

Doorknob

@Downgoat And that's the problem with JS's philosophy. It should be garbage in, garbage out, not "make sense of the garbage"

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Relevant xkcd (ignore the last 2 panels.)

Nathan Merrill

12:29 AM

@Mego it would simply happen at runtime.

Blind

I Hate who use abbrevations in italy

quartata

@Downgoat That's dumb. I'd rather have a programmer use good practices and have proper error handling then having the language handwave things

Downgoat

@Mego are you saying the user should be blamed for a programmer than doesn't know how to program?

quartata

Plus there is a difference between "oh a null pointer oops" and "oh whoa something that could literally only be caused by a typo"

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Blind

for example we say che (that), WHY YOU MUST WRITE KE?

Quill

12:30 AM

In my opinion js' non-static typing isn't bad, but the toString method should've been overloaded to throw exceptions for object types

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

If a programmer doesn't know how to program, he/she is not a programmer.

Anonymous

@Downgoat I cannot conceive of a way you could draw that conclusion from what I said without the liberal application of blunt force to your cranium.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Downgoat

Quill

@Mego polite insult / 10

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Downgoat you need to make a Cheddar IDE

or a IntelliJ plugin

Doorknob

12:31 AM

wwcwvim

Anonymous

If the programmer writes bad code, that's their fault.

Anonymous

End of discussion.

Downgoat

> blame the programmer for writing bad code

that's what you said I'm saying and you're clearly disagreeing with me

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat does cheddar have a tuple?

Quill

C# works because it tells you you're stupid and to get gud. JavaScript doesn't tell you you're bad, they kinda lie to you and pretend you're special

quartata

12:32 AM

2 mins ago, by quartata

Plus there is a difference between "oh a null pointer oops" and "oh whoa something that could literally only be caused by a typo"

Anonymous

If the programmer writes bad code, it should error spectacularly, telling them exactly what went wrong. The language shouldn't try to guess what the programmer meant to write.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

C# is an attempted fix for the horribleness of C++

quartata

With error messages an error like that would never ever go into production anyways so I'm not sure what you're point here is

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mego C++ is an example of a language that doesn't even allow that

Downgoat

@Mego I think you missed my point about JS being designed for the web

quartata

12:33 AM

It's literally impossible to make a language that 100% protects the user unless it's On Error Resume Next

and that's dumb

Doorknob

With static typing, that wouldn't even get past compile

Quill

IMO there's always going to be a desire for languages that spoil beginners and don't violently crash at the smallest issue

Anonymous

@Downgoat I'm not sure what your point is?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Doorknob I like this new trend. :)

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Hello... ninja bear monkey...

Quill

12:33 AM

PHP, JS, people treat Python as one, but that's just because the language is good

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

awkward stare

@Quill Errors help people to fix their mistakes.

Doorknob

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan $yvho<C-r>"

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

If errors did not exist, everybody would have super messy code

@Doorknob ?

Anonymous

@Quill An important part of programming is learning how to recover from issues - whether that means a try-catch block within the code to recover without crashing, or reading the error message and editing the code.

Quill

@Mego I imagine the origins of the web like "holyshit there's money in the web gogogogo get these browsers out YESTERDAY"

Anonymous

12:35 AM

@Quill That's basically how IE happened.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mego ^

Quill

@Mego yup, which is why when JS doesn't throw errors and it just doesn't work, people smash their heads against stuff

Other languages are like 'you can't do that. that's stupid'

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Doorknob golfier: $hhr<cr>

Nathan Merrill

Every language will have errors that pass silently, no matter how well the language is designed

Doorknob

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Well, I was trying to preserve your original message and "reply" to it on the next line. :P

Anonymous

12:36 AM

JS doesn't communicate with the programmer - it silently tries to interpret what the programmer typed. That's bad. We programmers need our languages to tell us just how stupid we are being, so we can learn to be better.

Quill

3 mins ago, by Quill

IMO there's always going to be a desire for languages that spoil beginners and don't violently crash at the smallest issue

Downgoat

@Mego A) it's not too confusing how type casting works B) Rational for being reluctant on errors is because it was designed for the web C) any other points besides "type casting is implicit JS sucks"?

Quill

It's a bad thing to do, but I think there's always going to be a desire for them in the programming industry even if they're vilified for it

trichoplax

Summary: JS means the user doesn't have to wait for the programmer to be finished before seeing the end result. Some people think that's good. Some don't.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I just found this...

Anonymous

12:37 AM

@Downgoat You keep saying "designed for the web", but you have yet to say what you actually mean by that. The web is not very different from the desktop.

Doorknob

@Downgoat Who cares if it was designed for the web? That doesn't justify anything.

Quill

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Praise FSM

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

PHP was designed for the web and yet look at it @Mego

Anonymous

And my other big complaint about JS is that it doesn't tell you when you're being a moron - which I've said many times in the past hour, but you seem to have missed all of those messages.

Downgoat

@Mego here i dont want to explain this myself so brb one sec with a link expalining it

Nathan Merrill

12:38 AM

the fact that browser ignored HTML errors is also a bad thing

Quill

6 mins ago, by Quill

C# works because it tells you you're stupid and to get gud. JavaScript doesn't tell you you're bad, they kinda lie to you and pretend you're special

El'endia Starman

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Hah, I don't use Twitter, so I wouldn't know. But that doesn't surprise me. I think more than 50% of questions asked on C.SE are crap.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@El'endiaStarman try a neural network like PyBrain

or nltk

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Doorknob If V had a "duplicate" operator, should it default to p or P?

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

just detecting uncapitalized "i"'s would be pretty good filter

Quill

12:39 AM

@Mego The web was more attractive to non-techie folk as applications and the CLI, so I assume when HTTP began to get rolled out properly, everyone was in a rush to colonise

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Right now it is P

Doorknob

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Hmm... I think P would be more widely applicable

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan So when you need two of something in V, you'd say you need to P?

Doorknob

If you needed three, you'd need to PP

Quill

In an embarrassing turn of events, it turns out my watch was telling me to calm down

Downgoat

12:40 AM

HTML: Poison or Panacea? (HTML Part2) - Computerphile

►

Doorknob

Did you just link to a video to support your argument? .-.

Downgoat

@Doorknob yes, is there a problem?

Anonymous

@Downgoat I'm not watching a 14-minute video because you can't be bothered to properly present your arguments.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

its better than nothing ._.

trichoplax

@Downgoat Despite enjoying this whole argument, I do like the fact that we live in a world with a wide range of different ways of doing things

Nathan Merrill

12:42 AM

@Downgoat I've watched that video, and I disagree with him. He explains why it happened that way, but also the bunch of reasons why it's lead to problems

quartata

I think this is the first time I've seen someone who wants their language not to help them with debugging

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@El'endiaStarman from a CS perspective, the solution would be checking for a positive number of votes, a non-new user, and passed through Triage and other review queues

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill it leads to problems for the developers but I think it's been well established that sacrifices are made in favor of eh end-user most of the time

Doorknob

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Triage is SO only

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

really?

why only SO?

Anonymous

12:43 AM

@Downgoat I think the core disconnect here is, you're saying "that's the way it happened so these problems are features now". You never stop to consider "hey wait what if we re-did it in a saner way?" You just accept the status quo without ever considering that change might be an improvement.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Triage would be useful here and in C.SE too

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat no, the real reason it was implemented was to save disk space (I thought he mentioned it in that video...maybe it was an earlier one)

Downgoat

@Mego I'm not going to lay out for you what has already been explained. if you don't bother to watch it how do i care?

Blind

operator = input("Write your operator")
numFirst = input("Write your first number")
numSecond = input("Write your second language")
numFirst = float(numFirst)
numSecond = float(numSecond)

if operator == "*":
            print(numFirst * numSecond)

elif operator == "+":
            print(numFirst + numSecond)

elif operator == "-":
             print(numFirst - numSecond)

elif operator == "/":
            print(numFirst / numSecond)

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill that was in the earlier video

Blind

12:44 AM

Is it normal that give me errors?

Anonymous

@Downgoat If you don't bother to actually present your arguments (and instead link a 14-minute video), why should I care what you think?

trichoplax

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC SO has kilousers of processing power for the review queues

Doorknob

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I think it's still in the "experiment" stage? I remember when it was rolled out initially, it was trying to be a solution to problems specific to SO and how it gets vastly more traffic than all the other sites combined

quartata

@Blind What is the error?

Blind

syntax error: unexpected EOF while parsing

Quill

12:45 AM

@Doorknob interestingly enough, the menu still exists for everyone else codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/triage/stats

Downgoat

@Mego "why should I care what you think?" you shouldn't, how do i care?

Doorknob

@Quill Oh, huh, that is interesting

It also stomps all over my dark theme :D

quartata

@Blind Are you uing Python 2?

Blind

no, Python 3

or better

I've installed python2 and python3

if i use main.py i dunno if it's py2 or py3

Doorknob

@Blind Works On My Machine™

Blind

12:47 AM

oh ok

I hate windows

Doorknob

Then don't use Windows :P

quartata

Do python --version just to be sure you are using the right version

trichoplax

Devil's advocate: The one place that not erroring makes sense is in a golfing language, and JS is one of the few languages regularly golfed for production

Anonymous

Blind

I don't use it often, now I'm on my laptop and I'm using it

Anonymous

12:48 AM

Slacker

Doorknob

hahaha

Blind

what?

quartata

He's talking about the screenshot

not you lol don't worry

Anonymous

Nah the only slacker around here is me

Blind

ok

Anonymous

12:50 AM

And probably everyone else, given that this room is most popular during US working hours :P

quartata

and me. haven't touched the review queues in ages

trichoplax

Call yourself a slacker?? I don't even have review queue access yet...

Anonymous

I'm #7 on close, #8 on first, #5 on late, #7 on LQ, #5 on reopen, and #8 on edits :P

trichoplax

Wow. That makes you lazier than 7 other people on the planet...

Anonymous

I would've jumped to #6 on the close queue, but I CV'd a question from the front page rather than from the queue

Quill

12:53 AM

I have a grand total of 1 review in PPCG

Doorknob

Which, according to golf rules, makes you the best reviewer :P

trichoplax

Did you think it was CR by mistake?

Quill

I max out my daily queues on other sites though

I think it was back before the privs reqs got increased

Helka Homba

@Downgoat If it helps, I agree with you. Of course JS/HTML is far from perfect but it's not going to drastically change in the next day or month or year. It's ok, and indeed necessary, for many people to accept it as is.

Quill

@HelkaHomba the latest es6 additions are getting there, so we can only hope it continues

Doorknob

12:55 AM

09:56 <bbroadstone_> i just accidentally changed sda2 to swap

quartata

rip

Anonymous

gg

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