The Nineteenth Byte

Anonymous

5:00 AM

We'd need to know how much energy a single Pikachu outputs in a given amount of time

Anonymous

Which, from my Google searches, isn't stated anywhere

charredgrass

Ok, Pikachu from the anime/cartoons frequently zaps humans without killing them

100 and 200 mA is the lethal dose of amperage

W = A * V

Anonymous

We have no idea what the voltage is, though

Geobits

@charredgrass Well, so does lightning, but I doubt we want to work on that scale.

charredgrass

@Geobits hmm good point

Wait, I know. There was an episode were pikachus were powering something

Anonymous

5:02 AM

There's also the fact that Pikachu can theoretically control how strong the zaps are

charredgrass

if we can find out the energy consumption rate of that thing, and divide by pikachus

Yes @Mego but there were some nonlethal shots that were presumably at full power iirc

Geobits

Oh. Well, the Emerald pokedex entry is:

> It stores electricity in the electric sacs on its cheeks. When it releases pent-up energy in a burst, the electric power is equal to a lightning bolt.

So there's that. Doesn't sound like it can sustain that at all though.

charredgrass

what are we doing with our lives

Geobits

Don't ask me. I just got back from walking in a loop for hours.

Anonymous

The GO pokedex entry is similarly unhelpful:

Anonymous

5:10 AM

> Whenever Pikachu comes across something new, it blasts it with a jolt of electricity. If you come across a blackened berry, it's evidence that this Pokemon mistook the intensity of its charge.

Anonymous

So it can output a lightning bolt's worth of electricity, but it requires charging.

Anonymous

Let's say it takes one minute to charge up a bolt.

Anonymous

So the amount of energy saved by Nest is about 2e7 Pikachu-minutes

Geobits

Hmm. Probably more cost effective to just power my house with an enslaved pikachu then.

Anonymous

Or around 300k Pikachu-hours

Anonymous

5:14 AM

4 Pikachus could power a refrigerator for a year

Quill

well I just got flag banned on SO

Geobits

Hmm. I wonder what the annual cost of ownership is for a pikachu. I mean, berries aren't that expensive. What else does it need to eat? I don't have Brock on hand to whip up his dog-food-looking pellets.

Anonymous

I have a 500W power supply in my desktop - about 15k Pikachus would be needed to power it for a year

Anonymous

@Geobits Ketchup

Geobits

@Mego That can't be right. You mean 15k shocks, or 15k pikachu shocking once per minute?

Anonymous

5:16 AM

@Quill How did that happen?

Anonymous

@Geobits 15k Pikachu shocking once per minute. Obviously staggered to provide a constant supply of electricity.

Geobits

For some reason I can't imagine it taking 15k lightning bolts per minute to power my pc.

charredgrass

500 W = 500 J/s = 30000 J / min

Anonymous

A 500W PSU draws 4,380,000 kWh per year - about 1.6e13 Joules

Quill

@Mego I mod flagged an abusive edit and two posts as off-topic that got declined

Downgoat

5:18 AM

@Quill did you flag all the posts as "0/10 not enough goats" again?

oh wait that's just me :|

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ thank you so much for helping fix ternary parsing. It finally worked :D

Anonymous

Oh wait yeah I really borked the math

charredgrass

yeah lol

Anonymous

1 Pikachu is 1.1e9 Joules/minute, or around 18 million watts

Downgoat

@Mego o_o

charredgrass

that's quite a few PSUs

Geobits

5:21 AM

This is assuming djhe only needs to charge for a minute though. Maybe it takes five, maybe an hour.

Anonymous

But since it can only shock once per minute, to provide enough constant power, I'd need either a really good battery, or 7200 Pikachus shocking back-to-back, 120 times per second.

Geobits

I think the battery option might be cheaper than housing and feeding 7200 Pikachu (minimum, considering time off for food/sleep).

Anonymous

Once per minute is probably excessive, actually, based on the games. It takes about 10 seconds to fully charge Thunderbolt in Pokemon GO.

Geobits

Hmm. Since there's a bunch of excess energy, efficiency isn't as big a concern. Just have it repeatedly shock some sort of heatsink and use thermal energy.

charredgrass

@Mego But that's just the first tbolt. We can't assume they can do hundreds of consecutive bolts

Geobits

5:24 AM

@charredgrass Nah, you can spam them pretty often in the game. Until the battle's over anyway.

Anonymous

@charredgrass They can. You just have to tap a bunch, then tap-and-hold to unleash Thunderbolt.

Anonymous

Plus the regular Thundershock attacks do 1/10 of the damage, so 1/10 of the energy

Geobits

In the main series games, it can use it 15ish times before it needs to rest or be fed to recharge.

charredgrass

@Mego Yes but they probably can't do it for a full day, 24/7

Anonymous

@charredgrass That's why you have a farm

Anonymous

5:26 AM

Better question: what about a Jolteon?

Anonymous

Or even better, Zapdos

charredgrass

Oh, I think there's specific data on Jolteon in the dex

Anonymous

Now if only I could get one of my Eevees to evolve into one >_>

Anonymous

I have 2 Flareons and a Vaporeon

charredgrass

Red/Blue Dex Entry:

> It accumulates negative ions in the atmosphere to blast out 10000-volt lightning bolts.

Geobits

5:27 AM

Nah, if you're looking for another electric type, go for Zapdos. It says it "creates savage thunderstorms by flapping its wings".

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman do you have short-circuts in pytek?

Anonymous

But controlling Zapdos would be difficult

Anonymous

Legendary bird does what legendary bird wants

Anonymous

Also filthy Instinct

Geobits

@Mego Controlling one zapdos seems easier than thousands of pikachu.

My town is so Instinct/Valor right now :/

Anonymous

5:28 AM

I serve one bird - the bird in the ~~North~~ South

Anonymous

I'm watching the gym by my apartment trade back and forth between Instink and Mystic

Anonymous

Mystic has it pretty locked down right now - 2 Vaporeons and a Snorlax, all 1k+

Geobits

Ok, time to pop the lucky egg and evolve ridiculous amounts of pidgeys :D

@Mego Oh... the gyms I was around earlier were all 1700+ :(

charredgrass

y'all are killing me

can't wait until the global release

or until I get back home, whichever one's first

Anonymous

Nah, it's not so great right now. Servers are constantly crapping out, and the 1HP bug in gyms is a killer

charredgrass

5:31 AM

Yeah but I've been waiting for this forever! Better to be disappointed than enraged that I can't play at all

Anonymous

Yeah, at least you can (mostly) catch Pokemon right now.

Anonymous

Unless the other bug happens where the pokeball just sits there, not shaking or anything, and you have to restart the app

Geobits

I only had that one happen once tonight :)

Anonymous

Or where you get phantom Pokemon on the tracker that constantly show as 3 footsteps away even though they're long gone

Anonymous

Or where you don't see anything except Pidgeys and Ratattas

Anonymous

5:34 AM

I was going to go downtown tonight and take advantage of the 20-ish stops and 2 gyms around the town square, but my car is dead :(

Geobits

Yeah, the best spot here is a lake with a 0.6 mile path around it. Lots of stops and lures almost constant.

Anonymous

So instead I'm going to take a walk in the morning down to my favorite hole-in-the-wall diner that also happens to be a pokestop.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@charredgrass If they released everywhere else now, the servers would probably be almost permanently down

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ though I highly doubt if they released everywhere they would use the same amount of servers

Geobits

Another Vaporeon :/

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

5:43 AM

@Downgoat Yeah, they're probably crapping out because they underestimated the amound of processing power they needed

charredgrass

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ fine, just release for Hong Kong then :P

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

TIL Ditto is legendary in GO

Downgoat

@charredgrass considering how many people are in hong kong i doubt they'll be able to meet up to the processing demands of there anytime soon though :/

charredgrass

@Downgoat Fine, just release it for me

Downgoat

cheddar> 1 ? 2 : 3
3
cheddar> 0 ? 2 : 3
3

;_; that's not good

Anonymous

5:45 AM

@Downgoat Oh look PHP

Downgoat

sorry didn't copy everything

OOOHHH

Anonymous

That still looks like PHP

Downgoat

i was casting to array rather than boolean

@Mego TIL C looks like PHP

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat ...

Anonymous

I meant the bugs :P

Downgoat

5:48 AM

!!!! ternaries work!!!!!

cheddar> 1 ? 2 : 3
2
cheddar> 0 ? 2 : 3
3

yay'

Anonymous

Hooray

Anonymous

I still don't know what the overall goal of Cheddar is but yay

Anonymous

Downgoat

read the design philosiphy and docs

docs.cheddar.vihan.org

@Mego master branch is completely borked

look at develop branch

Quill

downgoat hasn't done anything in develop in ages

Downgoat

5:52 AM

@Quill ?

Quill

it's all been in the release branch

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Quill 3 hours = ages?

@Quill github.com/cheddar-lang/Cheddar/branches

Downgoat

@Quill ??

> develop Updated 3 hours ago by vihanb

Quill

oh I was thinking of master <_<

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

6:12 AM

theregister.co.uk/2016/07/11/…

I mean, I totally agree with him, but wow, what a jerk.

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan he made git, i thought it was well established he was a jerk :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

> git: "goddamn idiotic truckload of sh*t": when it breaks

charredgrass

yeap I agree with that

those bad comments hurt to read

Downgoat

@flawr this is an effective solution to too many problems

Geobits

Ugh. Transferring 160 pokemon is hell on the thumb.

Needs multi-select.

Downgoat

6:25 AM

question: the cheddar master/ branch is ancient and is in desperate need of an update. Should I merge a nightly pre release of cheddar-1.0.0?

Anonymous

Sure

Anonymous

Nobody sane expects master to be completely stable

Downgoat

but the pre-release I'm planing to merge is barely tested

Destructible Watermelon

hello again

Downgoat

@DestructibleWatermelon Hello!

charredgrass

6:27 AM

@DestructibleWatermelon hi

Downgoat

Can anyone fluent in python see about this:

Can't test right now, but aren't you calculating π forever there? — TuukkaX 4 hours ago

it has a yield but I'm not super-fluent in python

g'night all

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

yield is like return, but the function state is kept

Then it resumes from the same spot.

Does that make sense?

Or did you already go to sleep?

charredgrass

rip

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Meh. Oh well.

charredgrass

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan you put him to sleep with your explanation, so much that he fell asleep before you even started

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

6:36 AM

I'm about to do the same pretty soon here.

charredgrass

noooo dont leave me

user214599

Hello spy

charredgrass

there's a spah creepin around here

Destructible Watermelon

I SEE SPAI

Anonymous

Huh, turns out using coverage with CI works better when you actually tell the CI server to run the coverage script

user214599

6:45 AM

user214599

Geoluminati

Anonymous

Travis what are you doing

Anonymous

I didn't even change that file and now it's failing

user214599

Who

Anonymous

And how did that build pass before?

Geobits

6:52 AM

@MatthewRoh Shhh. That's supposed to be a secret.

Anonymous

I've been running CI tests against Python 3.3 for ages now. About a month ago, I started using stuff from the statistics module, which I just learned was only added in 3.4. Despite the module not existing, my 3.3 builds have been passing, up until this latest build.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Goodnight everyone!

Anonymous

Which means I get to either drop 3.3, or try to backport statistics

Anonymous

Oh goodie there's a 3rd-party lib

Doorknob

Literal cat on keyboard

Anonymous

7:03 AM

I'm doing a survey for an upcoming challenge. Please answer the survey once per dog/cat that you own. If you do not own either, please do not answer the survey.

charredgrass

@Mego Answered.... is the challenge going to be to differentiate between whether the name is for a cat or a dog??

Anonymous

@charredgrass Now why would you think that? (yes)

charredgrass

I put in my dog's name :D looking forwards to this

Doorknob

Can I answer for a cat that a relative owns? (specifically, the one pictured above :P)

Anonymous

I'm going to do it in a fashion similar to Phi's domain challenge. You get a list of the most common names for dogs and cats and training data, and get tested on the real-world data I gather.

Anonymous

7:05 AM

@Doorknob Sure

Anonymous

I'm going to add my mother's 3 cats

Anonymous

And my sister's cats

Quill

@Mego do I really have to do this 9 times

Anonymous

@Quill Google Forms didn't want to make it easy. Also wow you have 9 cats?

charredgrass

@Quill is cat lady confirmed

Quill

7:07 AM

@Mego mix of cats and dogs

Anonymous

You're either a crazy cat lady or you run an animal shelter

Quill

@charredgrass my mother is

charredgrass

ahhh

Anonymous

Alright who said that they have a dog named "cat"?

Anonymous

And a cat named "Shaggy" - this is really going to mess with my plan of using some fictional names in the training data set

Quill

7:13 AM

@Mego <_<

charredgrass

@Mego lmao, this is what happens when we ask people for data

Quill

WELL that's enough PII for one day

Anonymous

@charredgrass Yep, can't trust people on the internet. There is going to be some manual pruning of the data.

charredgrass

@Mego Good. Was worried for a second that the challenge wouldn't work out well

Geobits

Survey for upcoming challenge: please answer with mother's maiden name

Quill

7:17 AM

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Q: How and when should I disclose that I'm deaf?

I was born profoundly deaf. I am struggling to be hired as a software programmer (Bachelor Science in Computer Science graduated in 2012). I have been employed from time to time but finding long-term employment is proving problematic. I am in USA and currently live in Texas. But I am at this poin...

Anonymous

@Geobits Also birth city and birth year

charredgrass

also SSN

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@charredgrass I don't have a SSN

@Quill PII?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Mego what if our dog has a strange name?

Quill

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ personally identifiable information

user214599

7:24 AM

I don't know whats going on

Doorknob

@Geobits Oh, we already have access to that with the mod tools, right @Quill?

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan As long as it's not obviously fake, I don't care

Quill

@Doorknob I (barely) trust mods, I don't trust everybody else

my name isn't on that

Anonymous

Programmers like cats. Nobody is surprised.

charredgrass

7:28 AM

I love cats. Mom and sister are badly allergic though

Cats are good for keyboards

Anonymous

Cats are one of the few animals I don't have allergy issues with

Anonymous

Long-haired dogs make me miserable :(

Midnightas

cats

There are animals that you can get that are genetically modified to prevent allergies.

Quill

my cats are good cats imgur.com/JWIVTzQ

charredgrass

@Quill omg cat

i love cats

im dying

i need more cats

Midnightas

7:40 AM

You can't! You'll die from the adorableness!

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Anonymous

You're not as funny as you think you are

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