The Nineteenth Byte

10:00 PM

@Upgoat cherry pick, maybe

also @Upgoat if I'm not mistaken, Cheddar should be able to do well in this challenge: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/83238/golf-atan2

Upgoat

@Quill but the thing is I also want to squash the commits and git rebase -i HEAD~10 is completely borked

@Quill ooh yes... brb posting

Quill

@Upgoat GitHub lets you squash the commits when you do a PR

Upgoat

oh yes, good idea

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Upgoat Mars

Upgoat

basically I have a bunch of commits in develop/ which I want to go to release-1.0.0 but I want to squash groups of commits together

can we take input by setting variables?

I forgot to implement input in cheddar >_>

whoops

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:03 PM

@Upgoat D:

Quill

didn't you get functions working?

Maltysen

you can define functions?

shit ninjenja

Upgoat

uhh kiinda? :P

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@mınxomaτ That's what apt-get is for

mınxomaτ

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ How is that relevant? Doesn't make the software center less crap.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:09 PM

Maybe they didn't intend for the software center to be really good, since a lot of people use apt-get anyway

mınxomaτ

Also, that's what dpkg is for, not apt.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Also, I'm sure it's nowhere near the worst

Upgoat

Ohhhhhh I can solve all my git problems with rebase --onto i think

mınxomaτ

Where did I say that?

Lynn

I finally annotated my little 76 byte CJam brainfuck interpreter

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:11 PM

@mınxomaτ Wait nvm, how is dpkg like the software center though

mınxomaτ

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ The software center is the default assigned application for *.deb packages. However, just running dpkg on the deb file if usually way faster, since the SC UI is so laggy.

Bigtoes

That could be their new slogan: Ubuntu Software Center: Not literally the worst piece of software ever written

mınxomaτ

There's no reason for it to be as clunky and slow as it is.

Lynn

…Oh, and I just saved a byte.

Upgoat

@Bigtoes Cheddar: Not literally the tastiest piece of software ever written

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:14 PM

Then it's more like dpkg and parts of apt, since you can browse software (i.e. install without the file/using a link) on it, which you can't do with dpkg

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Aren't you the one always complaining about cheese puns?

Upgoat

yes

Bigtoes

Oh, I forgot, you're a goat. You probably eat flash and hard drives with software on them all the time. So I guess it's not a cheese thing.

Upgoat

@Bigtoes ಠ_ಠ >:| we are not animals, we eat solid state drives like the civilized creatures we are

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@mınxomaτ Wait, it's worse than IE?

Bigtoes

10:17 PM

Still, if Ubuntu is trying to get serious about non-techie usage (which they're constantly saying they are), having the Software Center as the primary method of installing things is terrible. It's a bad interface, and "just do it in terminal" simply doesn't work for a lot of people.

@Upgoat Do you not count flash as solid state? :P

Upgoat

@Bigtoes flash?

mınxomaτ

@Bigtoes What I mean. It's so slow. Even the spinning icon while installing is lagging >.>

flawr

@Lynn Now do the reverse

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Just install aptitude then? I think it's kinda like IE and Windows

Upgoat

oh

Maltysen

10:18 PM

@Bigtoes i want to get an ubuntu phone, but shit like this makes me too scared

Upgoat

@Maltysen O_O there is ubuntu for phones?!?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

IE was the default browser, but that doesn't mean many people use it just because it's the default

Upgoat

does android not cut it?

Lynn

Internet Explorer is a good browser, and hating it is the deadest of memes.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Upgoat ubuntu.com/phone

mınxomaτ

10:19 PM

@Upgoat There almost was even a phone for ubuntu: indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

Bigtoes

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Which aptitude? Isn't that terminal-based?

Upgoat

> $12,814,216 USD raised by 0 backers

Maltysen

@mınxomaτ ubuntu.com/phone/devices there are ubuntu phones

Upgoat

oh so I guess the money just came from magical goats then

mınxomaτ

@Maltysen That's not related.

These are not produced by Canonical. They tried that (see my link).

Quill

10:21 PM

speaking of small devices... the "$9 Chip computer" is shipping their PocketChip lately

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

nvm, aptitude doesn't have a non-text GUI

Maltysen

@mınxomaτ oh canonical tried to get into manufacturing?

cool

Upgoat

@mınxomaτ ._. why are they using not-ubuntu to make ubuntu phone

mınxomaτ

@Maltysen The "new" ones also IMO look worse shrugs

Upgoat

@Quill did raspberry pi zero not cut it?

Maltysen

10:23 PM

@mınxomaτ that meizu Pro 5 one doesn't look too bad

Quill

@Upgoat /me shrugs

also I thought the kickstarter for the CHIP came out before RPi Zero

Upgoat

pls anyone here fluent in git

mınxomaτ

@Maltysen Still like the Edge more.

Maybe they can license the design to Blu or some other crazy manufacturer.

Maltysen

well, yes, i agree that the manufacturers are definitely not up to android level

LegionMammal978

Chat mini-challenge: Try to find an account on some site (created before 2016-06-19T22:00:00Z) named 'LegionMammal978' that has a non-blank profile picture

@Upgoat I can sometimes make it work (by bashing my head into my keyboard repeatedly); what are you trying to do?

Upgoat

10:29 PM

@LegionMammal978 gravatar.com/avatar/47664c4adddd01af8c471af175c06e0a

LegionMammal978

Note: The username is case-insensitive for this challenge

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 Okay, so I have two branches. A develop branch and a release branch. The develop branch is messy. For "feature A" I might have four commits, same thing with feature B, etc. Then I have a release branch. This is a branch kept tidy, I have s series of commits and I want to squash some of them together, and put them onto the release branch. E.g. dev branch might be: A-B-C-D-E-F I wanna squash it into ABC-DEF where I squashed (ABC) and (DEF)

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Upgoat Maybe merge it in two separate commits?

Upgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ how?

I'm trying to do a git rebase -i HEAD~10 to squash the last 10 commitsish, but it doesn't select the last 10 commits, instead selects all other commits

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat That isn't LegionMammal978

Upgoat

10:34 PM

oh whoops wrong one

there

LegionMammal978

?

From where?

Upgoat

that was your avatar

Oct 4 '15 at 10:48, by New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write a Deadfish interpreter code-golf This will be another catalog challenge. I'll add the mandatory parts when it is posted. Deadfish is a simple programming language that has an unbounded register and these instructions: i increments the register d decrements the register s squares the reg...

LegionMammal978

Challenge rules update: Must use current profile picture

@Upgoat Last time I looked, no such post existed! Perhaps you should check again ;)

Upgoat

> deleted by owner 1 min ago

ಠ_ಠ

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

hackerrank.com/LegionMammal978

LegionMammal978

10:39 PM

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Good job; you get a cookie:

Upgoat

;-; no cukee fer gaot ;-;

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LegionMammal978 That was like the second result on Google

LegionMammal978

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ It's the third

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

Second for me

El'endia Starman

@LegionMammal978: Are you going on a rampage to delete all of your profile pictures everywhere?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:41 PM

Probably has a blank profile picture but can't access so posting just in case

LegionMammal978

@El'endiaStarman Perhaps ;)

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ The picture is blank, only the background has an image; look in the top-left corner

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LegionMammal978 Can't access youtube at school

LegionMammal978

Ah okay

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LegionMammal978 jailmc.com/profile/4929315

LegionMammal978

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ That's blank also

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:46 PM

IDK if this counts

thuum.org/viewuser.php?author=3407

LegionMammal978

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ That doesn't seem to be editable

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Just removed it an hour ago, look to the left of the "No bio."

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@LegionMammal978 Wait, it's transparent?

LegionMammal978

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ Duh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Upgoat sandbox viewer feature request: make a close button for the popup

LegionMammal978

Some sites make it opaque, some don't

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

10:54 PM

@LegionMammal978 Well, it's not easy telling between a picture full of nothing and bad layout

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ there is see top left corner

LegionMammal978

Just right-click on the space

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Any thoughts on this? Someone didn't like it, but I don't know why.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Language succession answer-chaining string Given two words (two strings of lowercase-only letters separated by a space) as input to a program in language X, output two programs in languages Y and Z such that program pY outputs the first word and program pZ outputs the second word. These program...

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ see at the very left

it's not positoined correctly though :/

kidna in the middle

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sorry, you said left, I heard right

Upgoat

11:00 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ are you faimliar with mathjs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yes

Upgoat

does it have arbitrary prescision math

e.g. 3/2 is fraction until I specify what precision i want it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

idts

not like that, anyhow

Upgoat

oh ok, im trying to find a libary to do that. i dont wanna have to implement in cheddar myself >_>

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat I could implement rational arithmetic for you

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:06 PM

> i dont wanna have to implement in cheddar myself >_>

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 nah, it's fine. If I can't find a library I'll just pipe to BC

quartata

@Upgoat That is an incredibly Bad Idea™

Rational arithmetic is not very difficult to implement

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Q: A proposal to remove "Code Golf" from the name of the site

I propose that "code golf" be removed from the name of the site and the site be renamed "Programming Puzzles". I have two reasons behind this: Although code golf is popular on the site, there are other fun and interesting kinds of challenges offered. In fact, I think the site being named "Code...

feature-request

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Do you want a Rational type, or have it work on Numbers?

Upgoat

@quartata why?

quartata

11:16 PM

@Upgoat Uhh... think about it for a second

LegionMammal978

I'll be happy to implement it for you (currently have nothing more useful to do with my life)

quartata

Well for one bc won't work on Windows

Secondly it'll be slow as shit

Thirdly there'll be all sorts of version issues and conflicts

Upgoat

@quartata Will the piping be slow? Bc seems pretty damn fast in general

LegionMammal978

Fourthly there is a user who is unnaturally eager to implement it for you

quartata

@Upgoat bc has to parse it

You're essentially parsing it twice. That's dumb.

Upgoat

11:18 PM

@LegionMammal978 if you'd like it I'll warn you that I'm picky about speed, it'll have to be damn fast :/

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat K, will be able to

Upgoat

@quartata yeah tru

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat (and the system has to start a new process)

6 mins ago, by LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Do you want a Rational type, or have it work on Numbers?

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 either or which ever is fastest

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Gimme a day to complete this, I've already forked it

@Upgoat To clarify: Number's constructor is only called without base 10 and bitshift 0 when lexing, correct?

Upgoat

11:31 PM

@LegionMammal978 yes

LegionMammal978

Will probably have to rewrite the number lexer also, then

Upgoat

Though Rational can just be a seperate class

It would be constructed as a typed literal:

var myRationalNumber: Rational = 10

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Upgoat Congrats, you are the first person to comment on V ever.

And so far, the only.

Upgoat

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan idk whether to :D for "first" or ;-; for "the gaot is so lonely"

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What's a gaot?

Upgoat

11:34 PM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan something resulting in blame-hooves

Zizouz212

Sup folks!

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat Where are default classes defined?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Hoi!

Zizouz212

I just thought of a great idea for a challenge.

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 well it'd be a part of the standard lib, so in src/stdlib but there is no STDLIB in the master branch. You'd have to fork from @develop

LegionMammal978

11:37 PM

@Upgoat So wait... master has no IO?

mınxomaτ

@Zizouz212 shoot

Upgoat

no, only develop/

Zizouz212

What happened?

Am I not allowed to think of making a challenge now?

mınxomaτ

???

Upgoat

it would be in master but I can't figure out how to git

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:38 PM

Where'd you get that idea?

Zizouz212

@mınxomaτ Now I'm very confused.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Upgoat Does this help at all:

If that doesn't fix it, git.txt contains the phone number of a friend of mine who understands git. Just wait through a few minutes of 'It's really pretty simple, just think of branches as...' and eventually you'll learn the commands that will fix everything.

mınxomaτ

@Zizouz212 shoot

== go

Zizouz212

Sorry, I have never heard that before. You do realize I'm Canadian right?

mınxomaτ

How would I know.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:40 PM

I did not know that.

Zizouz212

Anyways, are ascii art challenges popular?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

can someone tell "Erik the Golfer" to stop being an ass and fix his crap

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Are you drinking straight maple-syrup whilst watching hockey right now?

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat stdlib on develop only seems to have String

So how does IO work?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Zizouz212 Yes, I like ascii art challenges.

Zizouz212

11:41 PM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan That was a week ago. The penguins won that!

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What's your challenge idea?

Zizouz212

Go Pittsburgh! Go away San Jose!

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I'll post it to the sandbox when I'm done writing it. I just wanted to make sure ascii challenges were fun :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Zizouz212 I didn't know that. I don't really pay much attention to hockey.

Zizouz212

\o/

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 it doesnt rn >_>

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ a bit rude to erik >_>

LegionMammal978

11:43 PM

@Upgoat Okay, was confused by the website's example programs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Upgoat it's not the first time

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Zizouz212 Wait, you watch the NHL? I thought there was a Canadian league.

^^

Zizouz212

NHL is Canadian. But then, I'm royally upset with Canada.

No Canadian team made the playoffs.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan There's provincial leagues, but the NHL is Canada and the US.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

TIL.

Zizouz212

There's the Canucks, Oilers, Flames, Jets, Canadiens, Leafs, and the Senators.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:45 PM

You can tell I don't pay much attention.

Zizouz212

Or Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa

lol, clearly I do :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I like the NHL when the Avs are doing well. That's about it.

Zizouz212

Avs?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Avalanche

Zizouz212

Ah, Colorado :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:46 PM

Not to brag or anything, but Colorado is pretty much the best state. :D

Zizouz212

lol, isn't Colorado a state?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What do you mean? Yes, it is a state.

Zizouz212

Oh lol, I read that Colorado was the best in the state, not that it's the best state.

LegionMammal978

@Upgoat lib.es6 defines properties and static.es6 defines static members, correct?

Zizouz212

What states do I know... New York? California? Colorado... That's about it.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:48 PM

FWIW I couldn't name very many Canadian provinces.

Alberta, BC, uh...

Some other ones

Upgoat

@LegionMammal978 there's no real definiton, I did it like that because the string comstructor was decentralized from stdlib. You can really do it however you want thpugh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

any BF experts in here?

LegionMammal978

@Zizouz212 New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Ohio, Georgia, Washington, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, California, Colorado, Illinois, Texas, Alaska... the list goes on. (and those were off the top of my head!)

^ Blame the U.S. public education system for that last message

Zizouz212

Haha that's funny :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ sorta? I know a little.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:51 PM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan can I haz golf

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Haha, nope. I don't know that much.

I've only ever done one bf answer, and it was only 21 bytes long.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

this was my first answer :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Zizouz212 Hey, you got the ones that matter. The 2 where everyone lives, and the best one. :)

Zizouz212

Yaay!

Maltysen

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan what about new jersey? we have the highest population density :P

Zizouz212

11:55 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Here's Bub. A not-so-world-class soccer player. This is Bub. O __________________________________________________________ \|/ \ Hi Code Golfers! I need your help to improve my skills! | | |__________________________________________________________| / \ Bub is a soccer player. ...

Opinions?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

The net's a little f'ed up.

Zizouz212

What's wrong with it?

Maltysen

why is the word "net" superimposed on it?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

It's not aligned correctly. (Maybe cause I'm on mobile? )

Zizouz212

So that people know it's a net?

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Probably.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

11:58 PM

I'll check it on desktop and let you know if that fixes it

Zizouz212

@trichoplax I found out through a joke:

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I think you were there when the joke cracked up. It was in the bikeshed, right?

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