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18:00
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ really?
@orlp doesn't ping me.
yes
Trump is insane
@orlp ... for 2 more voters?
he has the sole power to fire a nuke
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no he doesn't
yeah, the president has that power
18:00
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I actually think he's sane. Everything he does is on purpose.
I think the worst part about trump is that he poorly represents conservatives, so we will have democrats for 50 yrs after his presidency. That's not good, I'm a republican. So I would go with Hillary to save the GOP. Disclaimer: 14 I can't vote
I don't mean insane in a literal sense
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ secretary of defense can still stop it
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@BaldBantha +1 for going with Hillary despite being a Republican. :D
18:02
@orlp really? thank heavens
Are you sure? I thought the president had final say over all military matters
@AlexA. I don't like her at all. only reason would be to save the GOP. And she would go to prison / get impeached over bengazi, so we would have her vice president
@orlp Well, kinda. The president can also force SecDef to resign, effective immediately.
it's political suicide, but it's better than firing off a rogue nuke
what if I told you that first-past-the-post is horribly broken and doesn't work as either a republic or democracy
I'd say most people probably would agree if they thought about it.
18:04
"first-past-the-post"?
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ winner takes all
hold on
Read the five most recent things on the starboard, bottom up. It's funny how we change topic so much.
everyone who hasn't already, watch this video series ^
at least the first couple
it's vitally important for your understanding of voting & politics
18:05
yeah, STV seems much more sane
wow, our starboard actually has important or not-(not-important) messages on it!!!
wait is today friday the 13th yet?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not here, but somewhere.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not in UTC+0...
@NathanMerrill Good thing the McAfee guy is running for president too :P (heavy sarcasm)
18:07
@orlp I do very much like that video series.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yes, it's been four hours
@wizzwizz4 are you in that time zone?
18:09
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ My system clock is UTC+0...
okay
It's so easy to accidentally spam xkcd in here...
Y'all talk a lot
I get back from a meeting and lunch and there were over 600 messages in here
better than the alternative, I suppose
600 messages, probably 10% with meaningful content :P
This is meaningful content.
SO IS MY AVOCADO
Petition to change the room's motto to "Probably 10% with meaningful content"
I <3 Thunder
18:14
@TimmyD no
@QPaysTaxes no
@wizzwizz4 ?
@TimmyD It's accurate but I don't want to be constantly reminded of it :P
10%? Wow productivity's increased
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@QPaysTaxes xkcd.com/1484
shit, I jsut found that by the random button...
i know.
..
I don't grammer. I spelel.
18:18
TIL that wiki exists.
Obligatory not-xkcd comic, for variety: link
@QPaysTaxes I knew of them, and I think I've read the one you were talking about.
@Sp3000 Ha ha! Ugh...
You've already committed to RIT, right?
Ha, alright.
Incidentally, do you know any sign language and/or deaf people?
Other than me. :P
18:24
@muddyfish thanks, listening to that
Huh, I honestly thought you were talking about me because that fits perfectly.
I know a small handful of ASL ... the important ones, like "more" "cookie" "please" and "thank-you"
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@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Always happy to help :P
@TimmyD "handful" har har ;)
18:25
Oh, hah, that was totally unintentional.
@QPaysTaxes +1 :D
Also, the Dining Commons are a great place to work, and a great place to learn food-related signs.
shit, i hit the star limit....
Q_Q
@QPaysTaxes no. I don't laugh for rude asshat unicorns.
Every time you say "+1", star the comment you're "+1"-ing.
@QPaysTaxes Interesting. My implant batteries last a day and I usually carry a pair of extras, so this sort of thing doesn't happen to me.
@El'endiaStarman so do you actually hear through the cochlear implants?
18:27
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How else?!
I've never met a deaf person, only a hard of hearing person.
@El'endiaStarman ... you use only ASL.
@wizzwizz4 -1
Fun fact: I didn't become fluent in ASL until sometime during RIT.
@QPaysTaxes Written English works great in many situations.
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Q: Bootloader golf: Brainfuck

Hannes KarppilaCreate a bootloader that executes given Brainfuck program. This is code-golf, so the program with least bytes wins. Being a bootloader, the size of the program is counted in non-zero bytes in the compiled code. Brainfuck 30000 8-bit overflowing cells. Pointer wraps over. Some notes about opera...

@QPaysTaxes This is more true than you realize.
18:29
Plot twist: El'endia is secretly not deaf.
There's a difference between "little-d deaf" and "capital-D Deaf". The former is the inability to hear, the latter is a cultural identity.
A friend of mine was a camp counselor at a summer camp for special-needs kids, so she's fluent in ASL.
@NewMainPosts that challenge
@QPaysTaxes Deaf people use their vision capabilities a lot more, so they adapt.
@NewMainPosts w. t. f.
18:30
@TimmyD Oh that's cool.
@QPaysTaxes Bad at the latter for sure.
I still don't fully consider myself Deaf.
Speaking of sines - excuse me, signs - the one that I would use for this is basically "simmering anger".
@QPaysTaxes Why?
So, I'm working on my crafting game, and I'm wondering what the best object-oriented way to store recipes. Consider a iron + stick = iron pickaxe recipe. There's a Recipe object (or giant static data structure) that describes what the ingredients are and what the product is. But, I think there also needs to be a way to have a single "instance" of a recipe: something that can contain the "actual" reactants and has an "execute" method.
@QPaysTaxes Why?
@PhiNotPi An instance of a recipe is a mixture
more specifically, a mixture can match multiple recipes (or partial recipes)
18:41
@wizzwizz4 Are you three or four years old or something? ;P
@El'endiaStarman Why?
@QPaysTaxes ... Erm...
On a long-running script where there isn't output until the end, does anyone else insert a write command each loop that spits out a dot?
@QPaysTaxes This is chat, not site.
I mean, I know that it's going to still be processing and doing stuff, but without that reminder it feels like nothing is happening.
@PhiNotPi I'm trying to think of some good data structure for efficient querying of recipes, and its actually pretty tough
18:45
@QPaysTaxes Hah, PowerShell has an explicit command to display a progress bar
@QPaysTaxes Ahhh, I remember writing a calculator program that would draw a progress bar that never finished... :P
@QPaysTaxes And it's a common joke to question common jokes.
This whole chat is a common joke.
@QPaysTaxes Flag as offensive.
@El'endiaStarman I remember writing a lot of programs as jokes, like detecting when the output was a multiple of pi and redefining pi to be 22/7.
18:47
@PhiNotPi I think I got it. Create a Map<Ingredient, Set<Recipe>>. When given a list of ingredients, return the intersection of all of the returned sets
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Q: Inverse regexp of KORONKORKO

guestI found a puzzle that I was unable to solve. Given an alphabet A-Z. Determine the shortest possible regular expression that accepts all strings that do not contain a substring KORONKORKO. One should use only letters A–Z, [, ], -, ^, , ?, *, +, |, and ( and ). I think this can be done with 118 cha...

@NathanMerrill What definition of Ingredient are you using (I have a class named ingredient that may or may not be what you are talking about).
an ingredient is one element of a recipe
this blablae chat my blablae life
so, Iron and Stick would be ingredients in your above example
but the key here is that the above structure is able to identify partial recipes
18:51
\2 Reference to non-existent subpattern
\1 Reference to non-existent subpattern
\3 Reference to non-existent subpattern
-.-
so, if Iron Stick Iron was a sword
then Iron Stick would return both a pickaxe and a sword
oooh, actually my above example doesn't handle repeated ingredients at all
so, if you did Iron Iron, it would still return all of the items that have only 1 iron
@PhiNotPi are recipes ordered?
@QPaysTaxes I could also be doing it wrong. I'm not the greatest at anything to do with regex
@NathanMerrill no, but there can probably be duplicated ingredients
@QPaysTaxes flagged as offensive
hmmm...I don't know of a good way to do partial recipes and repeated ingredients
18:55
Anyone want to help with some data sleuthing?
I mean, you could do it O(n)
I'm trying to figure what the bitrate columns (and others) really mean on h3xed.com/blogmedia/youtube-info.php when applied to my video youtube.com/watch?v=Kp3JAthWZ04
@QPaysTaxes you could improve that a bit, but yeah
@QPaysTaxes That spelling is more offensive than the original message -_-
The original mp4 file has bitrate 16285kbps (134MB size) so I'm not sure where the 5827001 comes from
18:58
oooh, here we go
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

AbbKazPowTriangle Rasterization I don't know if this is the right word for this, but here goes... Given a triangle with a height and a width, you can convert it into squares by counting any square that the triangle occupies as a whole square. Your task is to calculate the area of this 'rasterized' trian...

A Portion includes both an Ingredient and a count
so, for Iron Iron Wood
your hashmap would include (Iron,1), (Iron,2), and (Wood,1)
unfortunately, this isn't scalable to large ingredient counts
I don't really foresee massive recipes.
For some context, here's how I have ingredients currently working.
And ingredient is made up of two TagSets, a pro and a con.
@HelkaHomba I believe that youtube reencodes everything, no matter what you give it. That could explain the difference in bitrates from your file and theirs.
It can take a TagSet as input and output whether it matches. In order to match, the item must have all of the tags in pro but avoid the ones in con.
19:04
Assuming 'clen' is file size would agree with that.
@QPaysTaxes Oh, sed ... durr ... I don't have sed ... I just blindly copy-pasted it into regex101.com and hit "Go" ... Like I said, not the greatest (not even the goodest) at regex
@PhiNotPi hmmm...this makes things more complicated
@PhiNotPi Sounds like this will be somewhat more flexible than Minecraft's crafting system.
Hypothetical situation.... ingredient has pro=[log][wood] and con=[oak], then an object [log][maple][red] can match that ingredient.
specifically, what happens if there are two ingredients that match the current tag set
19:06
@El'endiaStarman Somewhat is an understatement.
@PhiNotPi Hah, considering the whole system, that's true. Just that pro/con part though, will make your crafting system somewhat more flexible than Minecraft's.
@HelkaHomba the hoopy loop video is awesome.
@NathanMerrill An item can be used for any ingredient that it matches.
Upvoted that video.
ItemA = [a,b] Item B = [c]
IngredientA = [a] IngredientB = [b] IngredientC = [c]
19:09
@Geobits Yeah but they definitely take bitrate into account. A higher bitrate original will have higher quality on youtube as expected.
I can't just take all of those ingredients and find recipes that match all three
Can anybody tell me what the heck is going on here?
Nope
In Python, whenever I do m.sin(74.7449), I get -0.6078289908533283.
radians?
19:11
degrees vs radians?
However, when I do the same thing in a calculator, I get about 0.9633.
@HelkaHomba But that doesn't say they don't encode it down afterward. It's just a recommendation for uploads (possibly even taking their reencoding into account).
@R.Kap @Phi is doing a Crafting game. Feel free to join.
Why is Python giving me different result than a calculator?
19:12
@R.Kap Your calculator is probably using degrees, whereas Python's math.sin uses radians.
@Geobits true
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Q: Universal Spooky Meme Translator

Itai FerberIntroduction Turns out, aliens love memes just as much as we do. Every alien race we've encountered so far has their own version of 2spooky4me (see the following question) and equivalent, though, with some variation. The inhabitants of planet CUTE1f can't handle a lot of spook, so their preferre...

@AlexA. (among others) why did a regex-golf get directed to SO?
Granted, it was a poorly written challenge, but it was still a golfing challenge ...
Is it a challenge? I didn't think so.
19:14
@AlexA. However, the correct answer should be around 0.9633.
Python is giving me a completely different answer.
2 mins ago, by Alex A.
@R.Kap Your calculator is probably using degrees, whereas Python's math.sin uses radians.
Convert 70.whatever to radians first in Python
@AlexA. It's not much different than this one, just needs to be cleaned up.
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Q: Columnar Transposition Cipher

George GibsonColumnar Transposition Cipher While I have plenty of programs I have written for more advanced ciphers, I just realised I don't actually have one for one of the simplest: Columnar Transposition. The cipher, in case you don't know, works as follows: First, you take the key, and write it as numb...

19:36
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm actually not sure (I've never used it that way), but it would make sense that you could do that.
Blergh, why is Travis so damn slow at times
@TimmyD I tried cleaning it up a bit. How does it look now? I'd be happy to reopen it once it's clear enough.
@VTCAKAVSMoACE You succeed at the end, right?
@El'endiaStarman Well, yeah.
Read the description. :D
The very final try is a success.
Thanks, I avoided wasting 15 minutes of my life on that video. Don't worry though, I'll waste those 15 minutes on something else. :P
19:47
Thanks! :D
I thought it was cool that Happy Wheels implemented that much physics thought into the game.
@Zgarb Can you help me out with something in Finnish?
@VTCAKAVSMoACE Yeah, that it is.
@El'endiaStarman I also pull the chair out from under the kid, like, 4 or 5 times.
But then I fall and die, so I didn't count that as a success.
What was the goal? To kill one of the people?
@El'endiaStarman To get the coin and "win".
19:51
@AlexA. Sure!
Oh, huh. How are you supposed to do that with the harpoon?
@Zgarb First, does "koronkorko" mean "compound interest," like in finance? Also, can you take a look here and tell me if it says anything about their policies for reproducing content elsewhere with attribution?
@El'endiaStarman You grab the harpoon.
I'll upload a video showing that, if you want.
Of course, you could try it yourself.
@AlexA. I think that's better. Not sure if it's ready for a reopen without some test cases, and 118 characters seems pretty generous, so I wonder if we're still not missing something due to a (spoken-) language barrier
@AlexA. Yes to the first question. To the second, I can't find any info about such policies on the site.
19:56
@TimmyD I think the test cases would just be "does this contain the string? yes, okay then don't match otherwise do" (sorry for the re-ping I got that backwards lel)
@VTCAKAVSMoACE "grab" as in "get impaled by"?
@Zgarb Thanks so much for looking! Are there any details of the challenge mentioned on that site that weren't effectively reproduced here?
@El'endiaStarman Nah - I'll show.
Well, I very nearly succeeded by getting impaled... :P

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