The Nineteenth Byte

jrich

6:00 PM

oh no.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'll have to learn Java then :P

jrich

there goes 10 million lines of code :P

phase

@jrich 10^10^10^(()_/\//_()__)(_)_()_

jrich

(in all honesty Java's not terrible ....)

@phase this should be a meme XD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Wait till it gets popular or the localhost effect will occur

jrich

6:01 PM

whats that

Zach Gates

@Mego: I saw this post and thought about our conversation about non-competing answers. Does this qualify in your book? If so, should it be deleted in that case?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Phase posted a meme about localhost and for some reason no one liked it :(

jrich

aww :(

Sherlock9

@jrich I don't quite get the joke

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I thought it was a very nice meme

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:03 PM

:3

phase

<.< >.>

<.<>.>

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I thought it was too

^.v v.^

jrich

@phase that's interesting lol

Optimizer

Happy Wester!

oh wait.

Sherlock9

@phase What's all this, then?

CoolestVeto

6:06 PM

@phase I have a web server running. It spooked me because I thought you found my address. o-o

jrich

@Sherlock9 chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/28546673#28546673 the number gets so big it breaks stuff

phase

@CoolestVeto i did i is master hackers

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

CoolestVeto

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ide.c9.io/vtcakavsmoace/langlib#openfile-README.md

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Where would I ask a question about math.js?

@CoolestVeto cool

El'endia Starman

6:11 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ SO, probably. Where else?

CoolestVeto

Did you want to help me with it? o.o

Sherlock9

@jrich Thank you :D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@CoolestVeto yeah, that's what cool meant :P

CoolestVeto

Oh! Okei.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I dunno, stackapps or something?

El'endia Starman

6:12 PM

I thought StackApps was mostly for publishing apps/extensions/etc for making the SE engine a bit better.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh ok

Sherlock9

@CoolestVeto I can't open it because I don't have a c9 account

What is that by the way?

CoolestVeto

@Sherlock9 github.com/VTCAKAVSMoACE/langlib

I'm building a structure on which you can implement/extend from to create a language structure that's readable and usable.

And probably quicker to write.

Sherlock9

Alright, I have to head out real quick, but I'll take a look when I get back

flawr

CoolestVeto

6:18 PM

@flawr wat

flawr

Happy easter from Scott Kelly

Downgoat

@flawr didn't Scott jelly Coke back down?

Justin

Anonymous

@ZachGates Yep, and I have flagged it as such. It's creative, but not at all a serious contender.

Justin

Such a soothing animation

flawr

6:22 PM

@Downgoat Yeah, he did!

Doorknob

@Justin can't... look... away...

flawr

My 1st holiday to celebrate on #Earth after my #YearInSpace! Wonder where this guy is now. #HappyEaster! https://t.co/u9fBYa3Myj

Tweeted by StationCDRKelly on March 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM

Downgoat

D: the bunny has no space suit

that means it's probably dying or dead

:(

flawr

Or in the space station.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

shameless plug

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Q: Defining Infix Operators in Mathjs

I want to be able to write a J-like language using the mathjs math.parser() function result. Let's say I want to define an operator # that returns the length of an array. Ideally it would work like this: a = [1, 2, 3] #a // yields 3 Then, for fun, an operator $ that takes two arra...

flawr

6:24 PM

shameless flag

^^

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ have you tried using jquery? it's great and does all things.

you could use babel and define a operator from there

ven

@Dennis do you have any "tutorial" for jelly that'd explain how the links work?

(I know a bit 'bout forks and atops)

phase

Anyone know how to combine to JSON objects together in JavaScript?

Alex A.

@ven Have you looked through github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/wiki at all?

Downgoat

@phase use jQuery's $.extend

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:29 PM

@Downgoat ಠ_ಠ

@Downgoat huhwat

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ babeljs.io/docs/plugins/#plugin-development

would not allowing digits in variable names be bad in a programming language?

Doorknob

in a non-esolang?

Downgoat

yes

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat I think so. Do you ever do something like foo1 and foo2?

Doorknob

then yes, that is a bad idea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:32 PM

@Downgoat pretty much.

Downgoat

okay, got it.

flawr

how about allowing non-digits in variable names?

El'endia Starman

@flawr It'd be hard to do anything otherwise. :P

Man, imagine if the only way to write variables was with digits.

ven

@AlexA. yeah. It starts the actual explanation with "the link above this one", which makes no sense to me

Alex A.

Yeah. Idk. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

El'endia Starman

6:34 PM

> 5 = 2 + 2
> print(5)
4

flawr

I am still thinking about this language=)

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman that's what teascript does

Doorknob

golfscript.tryitonline.net/#code=MiAyICsgOjU7Cgo1

3

Downgoat

@CoolestVeto -1 not enough barfy wat gif

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

CoolestVeto

6:36 PM

@Downgoat Happy now?

flawr

@CoolestVeto plz stop this

CoolestVeto

Man. I was about to edit that.

Downgoat

@CoolestVeto just include a link or else it will get deleted

CoolestVeto

@Downgoat Dude, I was editing it to that when it got removed. .-.

Downgoat

oh..

Martin Büttner

6:37 PM

@CoolestVeto I think he meant "in the first place"...

(or maybe not)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I may have to go soon D:

CoolestVeto

@MartinBüttner Yeah, my keybinding was different than I thought it was. D:

flawr

8

CoolestVeto

I thought it did the whole []() but it turns out it didn't. >.>

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@flawr lel

Doorknob

6:38 PM

@flawr hahahaha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat could you retract your close vote?

Downgoat

sure

flawr

Is there no way to link images here in chat?

Downgoat

@flawr nope

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat thanks :D

Doorknob

6:41 PM

ok

flawr

thx

Chris Jester-Young

Wow. I'm going to have to get used to not being able to edit messages long after the fact, and not being able to read deleted messages, when I become a civilian again. :-P

Doorknob

The most annoying part about not having a diamond on other SE sites is not being able to edit a comment 6 minutes after posting it. >:O

Chris Jester-Young

Yes!

Downgoat

@Doorknob s/6/3/

Chris Jester-Young

6:44 PM

@Downgoat Uh, you have 5 minutes to edit a comment. IIRC.

Doorknob

@Downgoat Isn't the timeout 5 minutes?

Downgoat

no, it's at most 3 iirc

I'm probably wrong though...

is anyone here familiar with ES6's final syntax?

Doorknob

It's 5 minutes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat not I

Chris Jester-Young

@Downgoat Sort of. What do you want to know?

Alex A.

6:45 PM

@ChrisJester-Young You'll always be a superuser of my heart <3

Downgoat

:/

Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. Awww, thanks!

Downgoat

that doesn't work either :/

Doorknob

those aren't comments

Chris Jester-Young

@Downgoat We're talking about on-site comments, not chat.

Downgoat

6:46 PM

oh, I thought you meant chat :|

I'm an idiot

Alex A.

rektgoat

Helka Homba

@Downgoat I thought so too

Chris Jester-Young

@Downgoat Any SE mod has mod access to all chatrooms on chat.SE, so Doorknob's comment refers to sites.

bai

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ bye

6:50 PM

-1 for the horrid lack of freehand circles.

Downgoat

^

flawr

What is up with the freehand circles????

Alex A.

@Doorknob This is obviously fake

Downgoat

6:51 PM

319

A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: Freehand Circles Originator: TheTXI Cultural Height: TBD See Also: Here, and Here as answer to this post

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh wait I need to go

Doorknob

flawr

chat.stackexchange.com/…

Helka Homba

@Downgoat No you're not

Alex A.

@Doorknob Whoa, what the hell

El'endia Starman

6:52 PM

@AlexA. Wow you guys. Get a room!

Alex A.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Doorknob

hides

Alex A.

>:U

TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN

Doorknob

Conclusive proof that Alex is master sockpuppeteer

Chris Jester-Young

The many Alexes of PPCG.

Helka Homba

6:56 PM

Conversations like these are what convince people that Doorknob and Alex are good mods.

6

Downgoat

@HelkaHomba thanks :3

Alex A.

>_>

Doorknob

<_<

Alex A.

vote for us...

._.

Doorknob

we're slightly good at this, we promise

flawr

6:57 PM

@AlexA. This should have been your application.

Alex A.

It's flawless and convincing

Doorknob

It's golfy too

Downgoat

saved four bytes: vote4us

phase

saved one byte: voteus

Doorknob

saved 3 ~~bytes~~ characters: ☑us

flawr

6:59 PM

@phase is that latin?

Downgoat

@Doorknob ~~checkmark is unicode~~ nevermind

Martin Büttner

you'll get there eventually

El'endia Starman

And boy, what a trip it was! :P

Downgoat

should I make ' delimit character literals or both ' and " delimit strings?

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat If you're going to distinguish characters and strings, the former. Otherwise, the latter.

Chris Jester-Young

7:02 PM

@Downgoat Depends on how much like CJam you want to be.

Downgoat

this language needs to be the least golfy as possible

El'endia Starman

Personally, I'd argue for no distinction between characters and length-1 strings.

Chris Jester-Young

@El'endiaStarman ih8u

Doorknob

Depends on whether it's a scripting language or a systems-type language

El'endia Starman

Others, like @quartata, will say that they hate it when a language allows either ' or " to be used for denoting strings.

ven

7:04 PM

Wait, what does +* mean in jelly?!

quartata

@El'endiaStarman I don't mind it but it must have meaning

For instance in Perl ' means no string interpolation and " does

El'endia Starman

Ah, thanks for the correction.

ven

Wait. Is * power in jelly?

quartata

yes (I think)

Chris Jester-Young

@quartata .oO(That came from Bourne shell, BTW.)

Perl used lots of great ideas from Bourne shell, including heredocs, backticks, etc.

El'endia Starman

7:06 PM

@ChrisJester-Young Thought bubble in text?

quartata

In other news I've been playing way too much TFC

Chris Jester-Young

@El'endiaStarman No, the use of single-quoted strings to mean no-interpolation.

Downgoat

should I use ` to delimit strings or just " and '?

quartata

No, he means the .oO(...)

El'endia Starman

Ninja'd by quartata. :P

Alex A.

7:07 PM

Uh oh. Building something from source and my computer is preparing for takeoff.

Chris Jester-Young

@El'endiaStarman Yes, that's a standard way to write thought bubbles.

Downgoat

@AlexA. XD

Chris Jester-Young

@Downgoat Do you want people to hate you?

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. Complete with gouts of flame and a giant pool of water to absorb the sound? :P

Downgoat

@ChrisJester-Young JavaScript does it...

Alex A.

7:08 PM

@Downgoat This is not a golfing language, right? If not, use regular string delimiters.

quartata

@Downgoat That's not a good reason to do anything

Alex A.

hahaha

rekt.js

Martin Büttner

@Downgoat because it screwed up earlier and had to maintain backwards-compatibility...

Downgoat

@quartata ಠ_ಠ

quartata

What are you making?

Downgoat

7:09 PM

@AlexA. github.com/DaniGuardiola/rektjs

@quartata github.com/vihanb/Cheddar

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Close! It'll be in orbit soon enough.

@Downgoat Hahaha you actually named it Cheddar? I was kidding. XD

It's not a bad name though, I kind of like it

Chris Jester-Young

@AlexA. Then it will be ready to nuke from orbit.

quartata

Looks like actual languages are now the flavor of the month

Anyways backticks shouldn't be quotes unless you really want the code to look like JS

El'endia Starman

@quartata Isn't that interesting!

Downgoat

@AlexA. it'll catch on.

quartata

7:10 PM

@El'endiaStarman I wonder why.... :P

Alex A.

@Downgoat Yeah, I think so.

Downgoat

The same way "Raspberry Pi" is a weird ass name but it caught on...

Alex A.

If you have a package manager for it, it should also be cheese themed.

Oh! Well this is why my fan is going nuts: Warning: Building gcc from source:

El'endia Starman

@quartata I'm actually wondering if I'm a victim of confirmation bias because there was a wave of golfing languages shortly after I started developing Minkolang...

Downgoat

I should see if cheez-its are looking for a programming language to sponsor...

zyabin101

7:11 PM

Internally, Cheddar is called vsl. :-)

Downgoat

@zyabin101 I changed it

El'endia Starman

VSL - Very Strange Language

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman less strange than python

Easterly Irk

ಠ_ಠ

zyabin101

VSL - Very Smart Language

El'endia Starman

7:12 PM

@Downgoat Do you think JS is strange?

Downgoat

^^

zyabin101

VSL - Vote So Long

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman of course not!

Easterly Irk

ಠ_ಠ

quartata

Depends on your definition of "strange" I suppose

zyabin101

7:12 PM

VSL - Ve Should Lepo

quartata

If you mean "abnormal" then yes JS is strange

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Well, you are objectively wrong. I produce again my favorite example: [1,2] + [3,4] -> "1,23,4"

quartata

@El'endiaStarman is that for real

Easterly Irk

Yes.

quartata

It coerces to string?

El'endia Starman

7:13 PM

(I understand why that happens, but still.)

quartata

oh my

Easterly Irk

@quartata Yes.

flawr

And that == is intransitive is nice too.

El'endia Starman

@quartata Quill posted a link to a little article/blog post on it a while back. Lemme find it.

Easterly Irk

Downgoat

7:16 PM

@El'endiaStarman that's because it casts them into a string, because it's the only defined way to convert to different classes.

flawr

ven

@quartata :P

So what's the multiply...

Easterly Irk

@flawr Is this a plane crash app?

Downgoat

@flawr -1 not enough crashes

quartata

@ven ×

Downgoat

7:17 PM

or maybe the app is called Plane and the app crashes a lot

ven

So ++ in Jelly really is *3. Because it's "<input>+<input>+<input>"(not yet sure how to read precendence)...

mınxomaτ

@Downgoat That's just plane rude.

Martin Büttner

@ven github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/wiki/Atoms

ven

I guess @Dennis was right to tell me it's really like hooks

Martin Büttner

@ven github.com/DennisMitchell/jelly/wiki/Tutorial

ven

7:18 PM

@MartinBüttner it's incomprehensible.

flawr

@Downgoat ಠ_ಠ

quartata

@ven What do you not understand?

Downgoat

CheddarError is fun to say...

ven

@quartata it uses words it didn't define beforehand. So I can't follow through

quartata

@ven What words?

ven

7:21 PM

@quartata "xxx is the link above this one"

Easterly Irk

quartata

@ven Do you know what a link is in this case?

zyabin101

@EasterlyIrk IKR?

quartata

A Jelly program itself is one big chain; each link of the chain is delimited by newlines. ç treats the link above it (literally the line above) as a dyad and calls it.

Dennis

@ven There's also the Jelly room, where you can ask questions.

@ven Link just means function. It refers to the function defined on the previous line.

Chris Jester-Young

7:26 PM

@EasterlyIrk ?

Zach Gates

@Mego From the OP: "I won't accept this as an answer, but Code Golf is about having fun, so there's no problem with having the answer here." Why is that not taken into account? And why delete it?

zyabin101

VSL expansions

Those I'm lazy to make an actual repo for.

ven

@Dennis thanks! :)

Downgoat

@zyabin101 how do I merge my fork?

@zyabin101 gist.github.com/vihanb/82ac53730754823a045c

zyabin101

@Downgoat I asked to write your expansions in the "Add your expansions" zone above!

Chris Jester-Young

7:38 PM

@Downgoat Put your commit into a new branch, then use that new branch to create a pull request.

New Main Posts

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Q: Getting from value A to B using only a positive and negative value

Given a value A and value B where both are greater than 0, and given a positive value X and a negative value Y, how do you find the shortest (least computation) way to get from A to B (or figure out that there is no solution)? please add any tags you feel fit for this question, thanks

math number fastest-code

Downgoat

oh :|

zyabin101

@ChrisJester-Young It's a gist. You can't merge it.

Downgoat

^

@zyabin101 fixed

zyabin101

Changes accepted.

Please wait until I amend the gist with them.

Downgoat

7:39 PM

:D

zyabin101

@Downgoat Gist amended with your expansion!

Downgoat

\o/

flawr

Regarding gists:Is there a (native) way of somehow organizing them?

Downgoat

@flawr you can clone the gist locally and I think reorder it there.

Easterly Irk

7:56 PM

> This user does not participate in any communities

Community is a community.

Chris Jester-Young

@EasterlyIrk Ah hahahahahahaha.

Easterly Irk

:P

Easterly Irk

8:08 PM

@ChrisJester-Young Did you like working for SE?

Anonymous

@ZachGates The OP doesn't get to decide whether or not a submission is a serious contender. That's why we have guidelines - so that it's not subjective.

Chris Jester-Young

@EasterlyIrk I loved working with the people I worked with. :-)

Anonymous

It's clever and creative, and it made me smile, but it's exactly the kind of submission I mentioned in my meta post - the only possible way it could win is if it was the only submission.

Chris Jester-Young

Some of them I still call friends. (And some of them were friends long before they or I started working there.)

Anonymous

Clever, creative, and cool are for popcons, not code golf (unless we're talking the kind of clever, creative, and cool that shaves off bytes, which we aren't)

5

Martin Büttner

8:19 PM

I would totally star that if I wasn't afraid that the message would be cut off on the starboard before the "(unless ..."

Chris Jester-Young

@MartinBüttner One way to find out!

Martin Büttner

phew :P

El'endia Starman

No stars...one star...four stars...

Chris Jester-Young

@Mego Wow, that's another of my legacies (the requirement for challenges to have objective winning criteria). :-)

Nathan Merrill

out of curiosity, have any of you come up with an efficient way for my list partition challenge?

Martin Büttner

8:20 PM

have you? :P

Chris Jester-Young

@NathanMerrill Is there an online judge for that problem? I'll submit a solution to it.

Nathan Merrill

@MartinBüttner nope, which is why I'm curious

@ChrisJester-Young nope

Chris Jester-Young

@NathanMerrill Bummer.

Nathan Merrill

it can actually be reduced to an integer partitioning problem

Downgoat

> c.load("String:123", 0)
undefined
> c.exec()
CheddarLexer { Code: 'String:123', Index: 7, _Tokens: [ 'String' ] }

\o/ my language works more now.

Nathan Merrill

8:24 PM

wait, 123 is a string?

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill no, this code is casting 123 to a string

epicTCK

where can i get your languege (github, docs, etc)

yes i know its probobly a WIP but still

Downgoat

@epicTCK github.com/vihanb/Cheddar

epicTCK

oh common it was supposed to be scrython that sounds so much cooler

but thanks anyway :D

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat I'm still confused why you require a declaration of class variables?

Downgoat

8:28 PM

I should add set builder notation to Cheddar, that would be really cool...

@NathanMerrill what do you mean?

Nathan Merrill

Name := Name
Age  := Age

Downgoat

yeah, what about it? that's equivalent to this.Name = Name; this.Age = Age in Java

Nathan Merrill

right, but if its passed to the constructor, simply automatically make it a member variable

think about functions, you don't need to reassign the parameters

Downgoat

yes but then if I wanted to do some sort of validation on the parameters, if I were to implicitly assign them, that wouldn't be possible

I might add a main block to classes...

Easterly Irk

@ChrisJester-Young You don't trust humans to grade? :P

Nathan Merrill

8:32 PM

I'm not saying to disallow assigning to variables

Downgoat

    class Animal(String: Name, Int: Age) {
       main {
           self.Name := Name
           self.Age  := Age
       }

       speak := => "Hello, my name is #{self.Name}, I am #{self.Age} years old"
    }

do you mean to have something like the above?

Nathan Merrill

but rather to implicitly do it if they don't

Chris Jester-Young

@EasterlyIrk Online judges allow me to submit a working algorithm without actually sharing that algorithm. :-P

Easterly Irk

oh. :P

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill ohh, that'll be better. I'll do it that way then

Easterly Irk

8:33 PM

^

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat have you seen the syntax to Kotlin?

it looks very similar to what you are doing

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill no not yet

El'endia Starman

in Pytek, Mar 18 at 14:29, by El'endia Starman

@AquaTart I like that. init[include=[a,b,c], exclude=[d,e,f]]() is the full form, with options for inclusion/exclusion.

A very, very similar idea. Initialize class variables with the passed parameters by default.

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill :| that was very similar syntax to Cheddar

should super() also be implicit?

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat its my favorite syntax, so don't worry about it

Anonymous

8:37 PM

@ChrisJester-Young I was talking about serious contenders, not winning criterion, but I can see the parallel :P

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat you could even make parameter inheritance implicit

Anonymous

@ChrisJester-Young You know what's also fun? Sharing knowledge and building great solutions as a community. Have you heard of Stack Exchange? It's a pretty cool Q&A network that encourages that. :)

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill Yeah, I'll try to make most things implicit with ways to override them if you need to.

Nathan Merrill

you do need to consider how multiple constructors works

Chris Jester-Young

@Mego I have actually heard of Stack Exchange; in fact I used to work there. ;-)

Nathan Merrill

8:39 PM

alternatively, you can simply do default variables

Anonymous

@ChrisJester-Young Oh wow, that's neat! :P

GamrCorps

So I was reading my stuff on flipboard when a Stack Overflow question popped up... wtf?

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat what does "reflective" mean (as far as Cheddar goes)?

Anonymous

@ChrisJester-Young In all seriousness though, I've been curious. If you don't mind my asking, why don't you work at SE anymore?

CoolestVeto

@GamrCorps "flipboard"?

ಠ_ಠ Autocorrect...

Anonymous

8:42 PM

@CoolestVeto Its like a clipboard, but it does sweet front-flips

Easterly Irk

lmgtfy.com/?q=flipboard

click the link and be amazed and don't ಠ_ಠ me to death.

Downgoat

@NathanMerrill ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I guess it has plenty of reflection features... I should remove that as it doesn't make much sense

CoolestVeto

@EasterlyIrk Waaait for iiiiiit....

ಠ_ಠ

Nathan Merrill

@Downgoat are you meaning like Java reflection?

I'm just not sure what reflective means

CoolestVeto

No. Cheese reflection.

Easterly Irk

8:43 PM

@CoolestVeto ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

@Mego I presume if he wanted to make that public, he would have by now. Kind of a personal thing.

Easterly Irk

^

Downgoat

Reflection (computer programming)

In computer science, reflection is the ability of a computer program to examine (see type introspection) and modify its own structure and behavior (specifically the values, meta-data, properties and functions) at runtime. == Historical background == The earliest computers were programmed in their native assembly language, which were inherently reflective as these original architectures could be programmed by defining instructions as data and using self-modifying code. As programming moved to higher-level languages such as C, this reflective ability disappeared (outside of malware) until programming...

that reflection

Nathan Merrill

gotcha

Easterly Irk

@Downgoat s/_\(/\\_\(/

Anonymous

8:45 PM

@Doorknob Hence why I asked if he minded. Also there's a decent chance he already mentioned it and I missed it, because I'm not the most attentive when it comes to chat.

Easterly Irk

That looks bizzare.

Chris Jester-Young

@Mego I decided to start my own company. :-)

Nathan Merrill

I've had this idea of dynamic static typing. As an example, an "Integer" would typically be defined with a range (e.g. from 1 to 100). However, if a and b were both integers of that range, then c = a + b would make c an integer with a range of 2 to 200

have you guys ever seen a language do something like that (so I can go look how they do it)?

Martin Büttner

sounds a bit like you want to combine your type system with interval arithmetic?

Chris Jester-Young

Interval arithmetic is especially awesome when used with floating point. :-D

Then people can stop asking why 0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3 is false. :-P

since the 0.3's interval is within the interval of 0.1 + 0.2.

Martin Büttner

8:54 PM

Mathematica can do interval arithmetic, but that doesn't really have anything to do with its number types (which are unrestricted).

GamrCorps

@CoolestVeto no the app (its a news app)

Nathan Merrill

@MartinBüttner kind of, but not really. This would extend to classes, where they can define "conditions"

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